Here is the full statement:
“Cherfilus-McCormick, 46, and her brother Edwin Cherfilus, 51, both of Miramar, worked through their family health-care company on a FEMA-funded COVID-19 vaccination staffing contract in 2021. In July 2021, the company received an overpayment of $5 million in FEMA funds. The indictment alleges that the defendants conspired to steal that $5 million and routed it through multiple accounts to disguise its source. Prosecutors allege that a substantial portion of the misappropriated funds was used as candidate contributions to Cherfilus-McCormick’s 2021 congressional campaign and for the personal benefit of the defendants. The indictment further alleges that Cherfilus-McCormick and Nadege Leblanc, 46, of Miramar, arranged additional contributions using straw donors, funneling other monies from the FEMA-funded Covid-19 contract to friends and relatives who then donated to the campaign as if using their own money. The indictment also charges Cherfilus-McCormick and her 2021 tax preparer David K. Spencer, 41, of Davie, with conspiring to file a false federal tax return. According to the indictment, they falsely claimed political spending and other personal expenses as business deductions and inflated charitable contributions in order to reduce her tax obligations.”
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174 responses to “FL-20 Congresswoman Indicted”
It is racist to indict her. She didn’t do nuffin.
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So it’s pretty bad. People who needed FEMA funds to rebuild their lives from the ashes of a natural disaster did not get the funds because THIS piece of scum stole the money to benefit herself, her friends, and her campaign to gain power. And the cherry on top was then lying about her charitable contributions to avoid taxes. So people in need were USED TWICE by this woman. Democratic Party, the party of compassion.
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So…just some musings here about headlines in the news. In one place, a judge has barred the display of the ten commandments in a school setting. I guess that is one ‘book’ that the left has no problem censoring, while allowing kids to see smut in the school library.
But then in another headline, the elected officials will do nothing to stop the loud and annoying Muslim call to prayer.
So people need to be protected against even the chance of happening to see the 10 commandments, but NOT be protected from hearing LOUD MUSLIM demands that you come to the mosque to pray.
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Then there is this headline:
Experts Urge Parents to Ask Babies for “Consent” Before Changing Their Diapers
How could this headline be true and it also be true that there are low propensity voters out there?
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Published: November 18, 2025 11:10pm
(The Center Square) – A new national poll reveals strong American voter support for eliminating the U.S. Department of Education.
The survey by the nonprofit Yes. Every Kid Foundation, released earlier this month, found 56% of registered voters support dismantling the agency, compared to 30% opposed.
The poll highlights widespread frustration with federal overreach in education. Voters described the department as “disconnected from classrooms and bureaucratic,” with 87% trusting parents to make the best decisions for their children.
“Voters are telling Washington something unmistakable: Families, not bureaucrats, should be the center of education decision-making,” Matt Frendewey, vice president of strategy, said in an email to The Center Square. “When people learn they can keep every dollar, maintain every protection and still reduce bureaucracy, a majority supports transforming the Department of Education. The appetite for bold, family-first change is larger than D.C. realizes.”
Good news if true.
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The indictment is in Florida. She might actually get convicted.
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The House of Representatives need to expel her. Use the George Santos standard,
Not sure if Messie, the Florida rep, and Traitor Grene will go along
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Federal,gubment jobs -97000 since 1/2025.
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In 2021 they were offering $10k “forgivable” loans to small businesses. My income did take a big hit and I was tempted to apply. Then I thought “forgivable” meant I was just getting $10k for free and I didn’t want a handout. But I am sure there must have been hundreds of thousands of people who did apply, and probably many were not legitimate. If I remember, you didn’t have to prove you actually had a business or that your income was affected, only that you were submitting the application as truthful.
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Why would Tina want legal foreign born workers to lose jobs?
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I take it back.
The new Marxist Pope DID mention God.
Contrary to ssq’s assertion, God is not a Republican, he is committed to climate change.
“Stronger climate actions will create stronger and fairer economic systems. Strong climate actions and policies; both are an investment in a more just and stable world. We walk alongside scientists, leaders, and pastors of every nation and creed.
We are guardians of creation — not rivals for its spoils. Let us send a clear and global signal together: nations standing in unwavering solidarity behind the Paris Agreement, and behind climate cooperation. Let this Amazonic Museum be remembered as the space where humanity chose cooperation over division and denial. And may God bless all of you in your efforts to continue caring for God’s creation. “
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“Stronger climate actions will create stronger and fairer economic systems“
Translation:
If we destroy the capitalist system, Marxism will flourish!
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Why would Tina want legal foreign born workers to lose jobs?
Because she hates foreigners. Next question.
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nations standing in unwavering solidarity behind the Paris Agreement”
The Catholic Church used to advocate for the Bible as the “soul of theology”
Now it serves the Paris Agreement.
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I was listening to Jesse Kelly the other night.
He said we should deport 60 million foreigners, but he would consider Trump’s presidency a success if he deported 10 million.
So far, he has deported about 500k, with another million or so self deporting.
But the self deport number includes people who would have left anyway, so call it a million
Considering the low hanging fruit will be easier to deport (criminals and those with pending deportation orders), I think if he gets to 2 million actual deportations in his 4 years it will be an achievement.
But even if he doubled that, it would still be like 20% of the 20 million illegals that probably came in in the last 10 years (including several million during Trump’s first term).
In other words, the vast majority of illegals are not going anywhere.
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Gubment workers + Illegals = Best economy ever.
-freepasser
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Tina just makes things up. Before 2015 and Trump running for President, Tina made real contributions to HHR. After that, zzzzzzzz
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Zohran Mamdani Suggests He’ll Disobey U.S. Law: “New York is a City Of International Law”
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Very disappointed about this….
Obviously, NASA is part of the cover-up and disinformation campaign.
They say that 3I/Atlas is “just a comet.”
The up close photo NASA provided is not nearly as detailed as the dozens of different photos I have seen of 3I/Atlas showing obvious signs of intelligent life and a designed spacecraft.
https://www.aol.com/nasa-saying-3i-atlas-officials-133248842.html
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I am done with NASA…
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Walt hasn’t been this disappointed in science since he told Galileo to man the F up and stick with the Earth revolves around the sun.
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LOL
Jasmine Crockett makes an absolute fool of herself when she is asked to correct the record about accusing Republicans of taking donations from a different Dr. Jeffrey Epstein: “That is specifically why I said *a* Jeffrey Epstein. Just because it wasn’t the same one, that’s fine… Have I dug in to find out who this doctor is? I have not.”
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“just because it wasn’t the same one”
Minor detail, I guess.
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Zohran Mamdani Suggests He’ll Disobey U.S. Law: “New York is a City Of International Law”
If by a miracle Hochul loses the election he will be screwed.
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Tina made real contributions to HHR. After that, zzzzzzzz”
Trump has broken a lot of people on both sides of the political spectrum.
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“just because it wasn’t the same one”
“Minor detail, I guess.”
It reminds me of the story from a couple of decades ago when a man lost his job because he used the word “niggardly,” a word that means stingy and has nothing whatsoever to do with the N word.
Made no difference, he was canned.
And recall that Ron DeSantis was nearly derailed because he answered the question around what he would do differently in Florida compared to Scott, and he said he didn’t want to monkey around and ruin it.
Was accused of this being a racist dog whistle, and it nearly cost him.
All of this is part of the absurdity of our age moving the locus of meaning and authorial intent from the author of words to the hearer/reader of words.
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I was once accused of being anti-Semitic because I am a Republican. I said my Jewish wife, who is also a Republican, would be surprised to know that.
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“La Raza Pimp” is still the best insult ever given at HHR.
GFYs.
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But we have had some great examples of racism/intolerance here at HHR.
LaZebra said Rs deserved to have a a real Christian on the ballot, not Mitt Romney
I forget the name of the guy who said “South America is not part of Western Civilization”
Rockerfeller Whatever claimed “Puerto Ricans are not Americans and breed like rabbits”
The Biden Troll said “only brown skinned people can be considered Hispanic”
Bunu said “only” 800k Jews were killed in the Holocaust. Later corrected to mean “in Germany” implying Jews killed in Poland and other concentration camps didn’t count. Of course, the 800k count for Germany is BS too.
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MNW used to refer to Mexicans as “wetbacks.”
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Was accused of this being a racist dog whistle, and it nearly cost him.”
George Allen lost a senate race by 7000 votes because he called someone “macaca”.
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MNW used to refer to Mexicans as “wetbacks.”
Heh, was just going to post that.
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And then NYC said I should “go back to where I came from”.
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Later he said there was a context, but its been years and he hasn’t been able to come up with the context yet.
Hope springs eternal.
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I was once accused of being anti-Semitic because I am a Republican.”
There are a lot of self loathing Jews. The Biden Troll was one. Bernie Sanders is another.
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Lisab used to call me fat. 10 months ago, I started using an insulin pump. 9 months ago, I fell and broke my right leg in 3 places. Since then, I lost 35 pounds. This is due to being too stupid to calculate carbs for the pump so I stopped eating most snacks. I was also trapped on my coach/in bed for weeks so I was at the mercy of my wife to obtain food. 2 surgeries and 6 weeks on an antibiotic IV also helped. Not a weight loss plan I would recommend.
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Gary Maxwell also called 2 rational, lovable men Philly A-holes.
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“George Allen lost a senate race by 7000 votes because he called someone “macaca”.”
But now in the same state, someone said he wanted to put two bullets in the head of the GOP state house leader, and see his kids die, and that the GOP leader was worse than Hitler and Pol Pot.
I would say a bit worse than ‘macaca’ but times have changed. And Allen lost while Jones won easily.
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I hope Phil and Jan are ok. I am sure that the holidays are hard for him since losing his wife. I know Jan’s husband was having some health issue.
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The free passers will throw the grifter under the bus
@ChristopherJM
New statement from President Volodymyr Zelensky’s office regarding the Trump peace proposal: “The President of Ukraine has officially received from the American side a draft plan which, in the American side’s assessment, could help reinvigorate diplomacy. The President of Ukraine outlined the fundamental principles that matter to our people, and following today’s meeting, the parties agreed to work on the plan’s provisions in a way that would bring about a just end to the war.”
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I hope Zelensky gives a big FU to the peace plan that is being talked about.
However, it might be a trial balloon.
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Tina, it doesn’t really matter. Trump could end that war too, in fact, he would bring world-wide peace, solve the national debt, and make it so there is a chicken in every pot, or for vegetarians, a sweet potato in their pots, and everyone had a home, no hunger, no war, everyone happy with their lives, and Trump would still have 57% negative job approval according to IPSOS/Reuters, CNN, and MSNBC.
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Yeah, we haven’t seen Phil in awhile.
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If the Pope could care less about Catholicism, why should Notre Dame care…
“The University of Notre Dame (ND) will no longer ask staff members to support its identity as a Catholic institution.
The university, based in South Bend, Indiana, announced the change via a press release titled “Refreshed ND Values, University updates shared during Fall Staff Town Hall” on Nov. 10. The Staff Town Halls, where staff members were informed of the decision, took place on Oct. 29 and 30.”
We all know what “refreshed values” mean.
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I had not checked in on DRUDGE headlines for a week or so.
Do not go there.
Over there, IT IS THE END OF THE WORLD.
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a just end to the war…
would be Putin executed as a war criminal, Ukraine’s territory fully restored, and Russia paying reparations to rebuild Ukraine.
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Not sure how rational MD was by that point, but I guess he hadn’t lost his marbles yet. That was one sad decline, he brought a lot to HHR, but let himself be consumed by TDS.
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Wife I making the 7 centerpiece flower arrangements for the Hospice retirement shin dig this evening.
Seven hollowed out white pumpkins, lots of greenery and flowers, and berries, etc.’What a mess we have on the floor. I am helping by staying out of her way except to repeatedly taking trips to the compost bin to empty the debris.
They are turning out to be quite pretty.
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Step one complete: Cherfilus-McCormick has stepped down from her leadership position on a House Foreign Affairs subcommittee
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“Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick has proudly represented the people of Palm Beach and Broward Counties since 2022. Consistent with the United States Constitution, she is entitled to her day in court and the presumption of innocence,” Jeffries spokesperson Christie Stephenson said in a statement.
I don’t recall such generosity when it came to George Santos.
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In a statement Thursday, Cherfilus-McCormick called her indictment “an unjust, baseless, sham” and insisted “and I am innocent.”
Yeah, right. When you read the details of the indictment, it is obvious that the data has been collected over significant time and processes so that when they issued the formal indictment they had everything in order and ready to go.
She thinks its unjust and baseless because she thinks she is above the law and shouldn’t have to answer ‘little’ people who don’t like her.
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“Using disaster relief funds for self-enrichment is a particularly selfish, cynical crime,” Attorney General Pam Bondi said in a statement. “No one is above the law, least of all powerful people who rob taxpayers for personal gain. We will follow the facts in this case and deliver justice.”
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Congressman Greg Steube
@RepGregSteube
Tomorrow morning I will be filing a privileged motion to censure Rep. Cherfilus McCormick and remove her from all committees. This is one of the most egregious abuses of public trust I have ever seen. Stealing $5 million in taxpayer disaster funds from FEMA of all places is beyond indefensible. Millions of Floridians have relied on FEMA after devastating hurricanes, and that money was supposed to help real disaster victims. And once House Ethics concludes their investigation or she is formally convicted, rest assured I will move to expel her from Congress.
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Not the first time she raised suspicions:
“The Howard University graduate was initially hit by a probe in 2023 by the House Ethics Committee, who investigated allegations of campaign finance violations tied to her 2022 elections.” –FoxNews
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MD cursed me out for asking why he stopped being a conservative and unfriended me on FB. I don’t think this A-hole fissure will heal.
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And given that there are low-profile co-conspirators who are also defendants, there is a decent chance some of these will cooperate and tell all in exchange for lesser sentences.
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Her legal team said in a statement that she “is a committed public servant, who is dedicated to her constituents. We will fight to clear her good name.”
So there we go, a legal counsel says she has a good name, so we should just let it all drop.
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RRH Elections has only 14 comments so far today and we are up to 60. They are talking about Cheney’s funeral. We are talking about stuff that matters.
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Morning Consult is dealing with their TDS by polling the 2028 Presidential primary. The conventional wisdom is that Vance and Newsome are shoo-ins. They polled half that correctly:
GOP: Vance 42, DeSantis 7, Rubio 3, Haley 5, Ramaswamy 3, Kennedy Jr. 3
DEM: Harris 29, Newsom 20, Buttigieg 8, Ocasio-Cortez 7
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That is something I could not figure out about MD, how he became a liberal. Same with Author.
MD once berated me for not being more supportive of deadender Sharron Angle. I said I sent her a check, I hoped she would beat Harry Reid, but that I thought she was a dingbat. He wouldn’t accept that.
But look at Bill Kristol. Liz Cheney. They endorsed the party of boys in girl sports, higher taxes, green new deal, partial birth abortion, child mutilation, open borders, etc.
I still don’t get it.
I know the rationale, everyone who supports Trump in any manner must be defeated. But I don’t understand how that advance the cause of conservatism.
You don’t have to be a Republican to be a conservative. But you can’t be a Democrat.
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does morning consulyation have the head to head? It’s being reporters that Vance leads nuisance.
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Eating disorders are really bad for you…
https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2025/11/19/eating-disorders-long-terms-effects-kidneys-diabetes/9171763562159/
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Trump chats with Melania, the Crown Prince with Vance
https://x.com/KOOLVIDX/status/1990954192358256888
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In the lower video, you see Trump reaching out and giving Elon Musk a pat on the stomach as he enters the room, good to see.
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you see Trump reaching out and giving Elon Musk a pat on the stomach
Gayest post of the day.
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Latest email shows that Dimestore Obama aka the Brooklyn Obama (Hakeem Jeffries) solicited campaign funds from Epplestein,
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Morning Consult
Vance 42, Newsom 41
Harris 43, Vance 42
Newsom 41, Rubio 39
Harris 42, Rubio 40
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Younger son (45) is feeling miserable from some sort of bug. Very swollen neck glands, cough, sore throat, temp of 101, chills.
Has been to urgent care and gotten antibiotics. Not much effect. Now he is off to the ER to see if he can get some relief.
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BTW, this son is now in his 83rd day of drug/alcohol recovery. He was arrested August 29, jail for 8 days, bonded out with agreement that he would go to residential recovery at one place for 8 days than, another for 6 weeks and was released to come home with us after that. But stipulations are that he goes each day to Day Report Center for 3 or 4 hours of things including drug testing, counseling sessions, go to NA/AA meetings. He is getting help in updating his resume and in securing new employment.
His court trial date for his arrest for possession of illegal substances will not be any earlier than May.
He has been doing very well in his recovery and has had no relapses and is taking his meds for depression and anxiety, sleep disorder, and meds to reduce the desire for drugs. Wife and I are now in counseling to find out how we can best help him in his recovery. I do not wish any of this on anyone, but I know many, many families have been or are going through this. Asking for prayers from any source.
I know that in many cases, a bad and chaotic home situation is the cause of, or at least is a big contributing factor, to a person’s addiction but this is not the case in his situation. We have not been enablers and have never tried to run interference to lessen the consequences of bad behavior that got him into trouble in the past (DUIs, etc.) The most frustrating thing for me is that nobody–in the court system or in the recovery treatment system where he has a case manager, therapist, counselors, and others working directly with him–NOBODY during this whole time has contacted us to get our input on (or ask us questions) of what we know about him and his personal history. Seems to me the info we have would be helpful in his road to recovery.
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Best wishes Walt – prayers for your son.
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Walt – You and your wife are doing what you must do. You love your son more than he loves himself. The sad thing is that to even the most caring counselors, therapists, doctors, etc. he is a “case.” One of too many. But he is alive and blessed to have your family on his side.
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Rep. Cherfilus-McCormick (D-Fl) must be really confident none of the peon co-defendants will break and spill all in a plea deal for a lesser sentence. She is absolutely asserting her innocence.
Maybe they all will be willing to spend a couple extra decades in the slammer hoping to give a chance for Cherfilus-McCormick to escape justice.
But it would not surprise me if one of the others breaks. Probably not the corrupt brother, but maybe the tax guy who helped her falsify her charitable giving. Someone will break to get a better sentencing deal.
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Trump’s approval held firm today in Rasmussen’s survey, 47/51
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Tonight’s episode of American Revolution begins with the sinter at Valley Forge. On now.
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Horatio Gates mentioned as a replacement for Washington to lead the army.
From Berkeley County VA (WV)
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Oh no!
Eight servants (white and black, free and slaves) lived in the same house at Valley Forge with George and Martha WAshington.
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Good luck with your son Walt, you seem to be doing everything humanly possible to help him, and he is doing what he can for himself. Getting help and helping yourself are the two things needed for a favorable outcome and that is being done.
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Oh, no!
Black slaves who went to fight with the revolutionary army could read and write.
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Cash Cow barely survived Washington’s “great forage”
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CORRECTIONS and ADDITIONS
American generals in the Revolution who resided in Berkeley County VA (now WV) include:
**** William Darke: [After Am. Rev., he became a Major General in the VA militia] Was a Captain during Revolution, taken prisoner at Battle of Germantown’ put on a British prison ship in NY; prisoner exchanged in 1780; rejoined Army and was promoted to Lt. Col. [NOT General during Am. Rev.] MY BAD.
Gen. Charles Lee: battles in NY
Gen. Horatio Gates: battles of Saratoga and Camden
Gen. Adam Stephen: With Washington during the NY and NJ campaigns;in charge of Defense of Philadelphia; [founder of Martinsburg] (only American General to be stripped of his command and cashiered out of the army)
So Berkeley County (which at the time included what is now Jefferson county) had but THREE AM. REV, Generals.
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Gen. Daniel Morgan – Was from Winchester VA just a few miles from Berkeley County, which had been formed from Fredrick Co VA where Winchester is. I claim him as a Berkeley County resident–even though he was a few miles south of the Berkeley County line; Battle of Quebec, taken prisoner; Returned to lead American forces to victory at Battle of Cowpens.
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So if you follow me, and put Gen. Daniel Morgan into Berkeley County’s count, you get 4 GENERALS
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Gen. Lee being mentioned now…
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Battle of Monmouth
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Washington personally knew Darke, Morgan, Gates, Lee, and Stephen before the Revolution as he came to this areac (of what is now WV) to survey (and pass through here on his was to survey further west in western Virginia, and to recreate at Bath (Berkeley Springs, WV). Washington’s own diary mentions as to how he worshiped in Hedgesville, VA at the Episcopal church (now WV and my home town) and spent the night at Snodgrass Tavern a mile west of Hedgesville on his way to Berkeley Springs. Several of these men also were with Washington as they were with Braddock on Braddock’s March to go to attack Fort Duquesne but got attacked and defeated before he got there.
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There are more Washington family homes (6) in Jefferson County WV (then part of Berkeley Co) than any other place in the U.S. [Blakely, Cedar Lawn, Bealair, Claymont Court, Happy Retreat (brother Charles’ home), and Harewood (brother Samuel Washington’s home0]
And more Washingtons (brothers, nephews, cousins, etc.) buried in Jefferson County (then part of Berkeley) than any other county in the U.S. Two houses built by his brothers and the others built by George Washington’s nephews.
Charles Town WV was named for Charles Washington, the younger brother of George Washington.
I have met a direct descendent of Samuel Washington by the name of Walter Washington. Walter is in his 80s and is a dead ringer facially for George Washington.
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When he was 18 years old, George Washington bought 500 acres in Berkeley County (in what is now Jefferson county)
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More than 70 direct descendants of George Washington are buried in cemeteries in or near Charles Town.
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Err….Well, direct descendants of George Washington’s brothers Charles and Samuel.
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Oh no!
in 1779, the winter was so bad (worst of the 18th century?) that the harbor in NYC froze over and you could haul cannons from one side of the river to the other by going over the ice.
Damn man-made glowbull warming.
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An awful lot of the Ken Burns series involves Indians and Blacks.
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George Washington also had a half-brother, Lawrence Washington, who lived in what is now Jefferson County, WV. And is buried there.
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It was one of the George Washington relatives that John Brown sent people to kidnap and bring to Harpers Ferry during John Brows raid to be held as a captive.
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Report on what CNN was doing today.
–first, they had live coverage of Dick Cheney’s funeral
–then they talked forever about Epstein, Epstein, Epstein. and how the vote to release the files was very damaging to Trump, etc. etc. (like yesterday on CNN)
–then a big piece about alleged sexual misconduct of some male army doctor as it relates to his female patients.
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the biggest thing I hold against Cheney is that when tasked to find GWB the best running mate that would help win the 2000 election, goofball Cheney said, I think it is me, Dick Cheney.
Come on. Cheney from WY with 3 EC votes and WY is a dark red state anyway? And you get a VP who has heart issues?
Cheney as VP did not bring any state to Bush that Bush did not already have.
If Cheney actually did find a better running mate for Bush, perhaps it would not have been such a close election..
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BTW, at the beginning of Bush’s term we have 9/11 happen.
Toward the end of Bush 2nd term, we have the financial/stock market collapse that kills any chance for the R presidential candidate to win in 2008.
In middle of Trump first term we have CROWVID epidemic unleashed on the world.
Toward Trump’s first term we have J6.
For 4 years between Trump 45 and Trump 47 The Dems flooded America with 20MM illegal aliens and all sorts of foolishness that Trump 47 has to try to undo.
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What disaster will the Dems unleash on America about 2 years from now to gain an election edge in 2028? (could it be an invasion from 3I/Atlas-ish things??)
financial?
another epidemic?
something else?
major terror attacks?
Will they manufacture a massive amount of hurricanes to hit the U.S.?
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Hello?
Is this thing on???
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Peace. Out.
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Good. It is all factual and overlooked. I have learned a great deal.
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I am too busy reading Walt’s posts to post anything.
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Charles Lee sucked.
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An awful lot of the Ken Burns series involves Indians and Blacks”
I could have told you that….
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Is there a problem with telling facts that many people did not know about? You did not watch so your comment is a zzzzzzzzz.
Indians were valuable assets to both the British and Americans, especially around Ticonderoga, Saratoga and the Hudson Valley. An Indian historian told the factual story of an Indian raid instigated by the British against American settlers that was so brutal it is still considered shameful for that tribe. Why should that not be told?
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Cheney as VP did not bring any state to Bush that Bush did not already have”
The argument at the time was that Cheney brought “gravitas” to the ticket.we
Despite his two successful terms as TX governor, Bush was portrayed in the media as not being “curious” or intellectual enough.
I actually think it was a good pick and served its purpose.
History shows the “bring a state” theory has not been very effective for VP picks. Even the Presidential nominee has trouble “bringing a state”. Mondale almost lost MN. McGovern lost SD. Gore lost TN. Walz didn’t help Harris in MN, Dems did better in 2020 there than 2024. Edwards didn’t deliver NC.
That is why I argued here that Shapiro was no guarantee for Harris in PA.
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Is there a problem with telling facts that many people did not know about? You did not watch so your comment is a zzzzzzzzz.”
LOL
Walt is the one who made the comment, not me.
And he did watch.
GFY.
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I guess Jason thinks the history of the Aztecs, Mayans, and Incas should only be told from the Conquistadors’ perspective.
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An Indian historian told the factual story of an Indian raid instigated by the British against American settlers that was so brutal it is still considered shameful for that tribe. Why should that not be told?”
Probably because these events were a dime a dozen and incidental to the main story, but they now have to be amplified and given undue importance because that fits the woke narrative.
And of course “factual” is probably a matter of opinion.
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I wonder why Walt was not an officer in the Revolution. It seems like he was the only man in his part of Virginia who did not get promoted.
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I guess Jason thinks the history of the Aztecs, Mayans, and Incas should only be told from the Conquistadors’ perspective.”
Actually, it is the opposite, the story is never told from the Conquistador’s perspective.
Of course, most people might not be interested in the perspective that the savages deserved to be relieved of their gold and culture.
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Jason claims to be interested in history. He just doesn’t like facts.
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retllaw
November 20, 2025 at 9:44 pm
An awful lot of the Ken Burns series involves Indians and Blacks.”
Bitter hardest hit.
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Bitter has now been brainwashed into thinking blacks and Indians were the main protagonists in the Revolutionary War, and that George Washington the terrible racist slave owner had an insignificant part.
But he claims “to make up his own mind”.
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Jason claims to be interested in history. He just doesn’t like facts.”
I like facts, I don’t like revisionist woke garbage that twists the facts in order to fit a narrative or agenda.
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A new mystery for Walt
https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-found-a-mysterious-golden-orb-at-the-bottom-of-the-ocean
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Jason has not watched a minute of the American Revolution but declares it woke. Zzzzzzzzz
If he had watched any of it, he would have heard many historians say that George Washington was the heart of the Revolution and that the war could not have been won without him. He was not a good tactical general (see Kips Bay, Brooklyn Heights, Germantown, etc.) but was a master at leading men and keeping an army in the field.
Who is right, Walt? Jason who has not watched it or me?
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Bitter has now been brainwashed into thinking blacks and Indians were the main protagonists in the Revolutionary War
Jason now lies as much as Tina. I never said what he claims.
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he would have heard many historians say that George Washington was the heart of the Revolution and that the war could not have been won without him.”
LOL
That is what has been taught for what, 200 years?
I guess the difference is “many historians” believe that, instead of all of them.
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I like facts. Just not enough to learn any I didn’t already know.
Fixed it.
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Who is right, Walt? Jason who has not watched it or me?”
Hilarious, since I didn’t say anything about American Revolution.
My views on the efforts to rewrite history into the modern leftist narrative have been repeated here many times, nothing new.
Walt made the comment and I said it did not surprise me.
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Bitter buys into and defends any woke theory he comes across, but then wants to pretend he is an independent thinker.
Nah, that dog won’t hunt.
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Jason posted:
and that George Washington the terrible racist slave owner had an insignificant part.
I just proved that this is NOT true in Ken Burns’ documentary.
Jason would know this but thinks not watching makes him an expert.
By the way, National Geographic or Discovery had a multipart series on The Conquistadores. Jason probably has opinions on it but did not watch.
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I don’t know if The American Revolution is revisionist woke garbage that twists the facts in order to fit a narrative or agenda because I did not watch it.
Fixed it for Jason.
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Jason’s stupid turd sandwich analogy in 3…2…1…
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“I wonder why Walt was not an officer in the Revolution. It seems like he was the only man in his part of Virginia who did not get promoted.”
I was offered a promotion to General on the condition that I give up my cow to help feed the troops at Valley Forge.
I said no dice.
Hopped on Cash Cow and headed south to fight the British if they ever got to Berkeley County.
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An awful lot of the Ken Burns series involves Indians and Blacks.”
Why do you think that is the case, Bitter?
Is it because an “awful lot” of the Revolutionary War was about blacks and Indians?
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I don’t know if The American Revolution is revisionist woke garbage that twists the facts in order to fit a narrative or agenda because I did not watch it.”
This is true.
But if I was a betting man…….
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Jason’s stupid turd sandwich analogy in 3…2…1…”
Nah, that analogy would pertain to not having to watch the entire series to determine if it was woke garbage or not.
Since I watched none of it, doesn’t apply.
Sorry.
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Bitter was very offended that I said I wasn’t surprised about Walt’s comment. Prior to that I had read all of Walt’s analysis and made no comment except to say that I read it.
“Doth protest too much” comes to mind.
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No. It is because it is a 12 hour series that tells more of the usual story. It also spends time discussing the Loyalists. Should they have been ignored? Spoiler alert – the Loyalists were almost exclusively white so you can’t claim it is woke to mention them.
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Saying America is systemically racist is woke. Noting that Rhode Island had a unit comprised of blacks and Indians that fought in several major battles is not.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15311973/Democrat-bizarre-defense-hate-Nashville.html
Saying you hate the city you want to represent in Congress is not a good strategy. Denying you meant you hate the city is even worse.
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Noting that Rhode Island had a unit comprised of blacks and Indians that fought in several major battles is not.”
Zzzzz….
According to Walt’s comment, seems like it was a lot more than “noting”.
Also did it say more blacks fought for the Brits than did for the Patriots?
“It is estimated that 20,000 African Americans joined the British cause, which promised freedom to enslaved people, as Black Loyalists. About half that number, an estimated 9,000 African Americans, became Black Patriots.”
In any event, Blacks comprised less than 4% of the Patriot fighting force. The Rhode Island regiment you mentioned had approximately 140 Blacks.
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Also did it say more blacks fought for the Brits than did for the Patriots?
Yes. You would know if you watched.
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In any event, Blacks comprised less than 4% of the Patriot fighting force… because the Southern colonies/states where most blacks lived would not allow them to serve.
Fixed it.
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Jason thinks the Tuskegee Airmen and the 761st tank battalion should not be mentioned in the history of WW2. At most, they deserve a footnote that says, “Some others served, too.”
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In any case, Bitter is correct that I don’t know if this particular series was a rewriting of History or not. I was merely saying I would not be surprised if it was based on Walt’s comment that there was an “awful lot” about blacks and Indians in it.
But denying there is an overall concerted effort by leftist “Historians” to rewrite all History regarding Columbus, colonization, slavery, the Revolutionary War, the CIvil War, etc. is ignoring the obvious.
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son thinks the Tuskegee Airmen and the 761st tank battalion should not be mentioned in the history of WW2. At most, they deserve a footnote that says, “Some others served, too.””
Zzzz… Bitter is spending too much time with Tina.
I never said anything here that the Tuskegee Airmen should not be mentioned. Their story has been well documented way before the woke revisionism started.
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n any event, Blacks comprised less than 4% of the Patriot fighting force… because the Southern colonies/states where most blacks lived would not allow them to serve.”
LOL
Goal post moving alert.
Bitter admits blacks were not a significant portion of the Patriot forces, but now resorts to reasons on why that could have been.
He ignores the fact that since blacks were 2-1 more likely to join the Brits than the Patriots, allowing Southern colony blacks to fight might have been even more helpful to the Brits.
It should also be mentioned that it wasn’t because blacks preferred the monarchy. More joined the Brits because the Brits were clearer in offering them freedom from slavery.
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Their story has been well documented
So why can’t other factual stories be well documented now?
I’m surprised Jason admits to liking the movie Glory. I am more surprised he watched it since it would fit in with his woke revisionist garbage theme.
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LOL
Glory came out in 1989, way before woke revisionism was in vogue.
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So Bitter, do you agree with this statement:
“But denying there is an overall concerted effort by leftist “Historians” to rewrite all History regarding Columbus, colonization, slavery, the Revolutionary War, the CIvil War, etc. is ignoring the obvious.”
Yes or no?
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I thought Glory was an excellent representation of a Black unit fighting in the Civil War, and of the conditions under which they did it.
It did not attempt to rewrite History, it was not about elevating any narrative and it was not a political hit job as many recent series are.
I recently watched part of a series on the History Channel about the “West” narrated by Kevin Costner.
It was advertised as a “fresh look” at the colonization of the West.
The “fresh look” was basically all about the genocidal white settlers against the peaceful Indians. It was, in effect, a political narrative attempting to erase History. It was short on facts, long on proselytizing.
“Kevin Costner’s The West isn’t the usual retelling of the United States’ western expansion, because it takes the viewpoint that the US settlers were treading on an already-occupied land”
Believe me, it was more than the “viewpoint”.
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Scientists issue dire warning as iconic American city sinks into the sea: ‘The speed is more than enough to put human life … at risk’
Not worried. Mandami will fix it
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I’m not on trial here. The fact that there were Indians living here and the whites were better at taking it than the Indians were at keeping it is a fact. As I said, there is nothing wrong about learning new facts. Saying George Washington owned slaves (fact), liked the poetry of slave Phillis Wheatley (fact), and was the most important man of his time in winning the war and starting the Presidency (fact) is not revisionism. It is more complete than chopped down a cherry tree (lie), had wooden teeth (lie), and was perfect (lie) than we were taught in school. I wish I had been a history teacher or a meteorologist because I like complexity.
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Was it not already occupied land? That would be surprising to the people who lived there. As I said, the settlers were better at taking land than the Indians were at keeping it. Not a judgment.
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And some Indians were better at taking land from other Indians. That’s why the Jason tribe got pushed all the way down to Peru.
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Was it not already occupied land?”
Some of it was. But how is that a “new perspective”?
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Still waiting for a simple yes or no answer…
So Bitter, do you agree with this statement:
“But denying there is an overall concerted effort by leftist “Historians” to rewrite all History regarding Columbus, colonization, slavery, the Revolutionary War, the CIvil War, etc. is ignoring the obvious.”
Yes or no?
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More joined the Brits because the Brits were clearer in offering them freedom from slavery.
Careful. That is part of that woke revisionist garbage you complain about in the series you haven’t watched.
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Not a judgment”
Ahhh, very good.
But the new woke rewriting of History is exactly that, judgment.
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“That is part of that woke revisionist garbage you complain about in the series you haven’t watched.”
Nah, nothing woke about that. But somehow I bet it was not a big part of your series.
“A far greater number of African Americans aligned with the British, who offered emancipation to enslaved people of rebels who escaped and joined their forces.
Motivation: Lord Dunmore’s Proclamation in Virginia (1775) and the Philipsburg Proclamation (1779) across the colonies provided a strong incentive for enslaved individuals seeking liberty”
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Good morning!
I predict that the Jason/Bitter war over Ken Burns American Revolution series will last longer than the actual American Revolution.
Some people just like to spend time and energy arguing….
Some people want to always get in the last word…
Some people want to call others names, “define” others in a negative light, ASS u ME things….
Suggestion to both: you all COULD just say:
“I understand your point but I hold a different view” and move on.
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And some Indians were better at taking land from other Indians.”
Or killing them. Or enslaving them. Or torturing them. Or even eating them.
But of course, none of that was mentioned in the “new perspective”.
The new perspective is that the Indians led idyllic lives in stable communities, peaceful, happy, prosperous, well fed, etc. until they uprooted/decimated by the evil settlers.
None of that is true. There were constant wars, famines, struggle against the elements, disease, etc. Average life span was 30.
But the narrative is we live on “occupied land” and need to give it back to the Indians, or what is left of them. In British Columbia, homeowners are being advised by woke judges that their deeds are worthless.
“British Columbia homeowners in Richmond are facing uncertainty and concern over their property rights following an August 2025 B.C. Supreme Court ruling that granted the Cowichan Tribes (Nation) Aboriginal title to over 5.7 square kilometers of land, including areas with existing private residences”
Any doubt that given the opportunity this will happen here? Stay tuned.
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I predict that the Jason/Bitter war over Ken Burns American Revolution series will last longer than the actual American Revolution.”
It’s not about the series.
I find it incredible Bitter won’t acknowledge that fake “historians” are intent on rewriting history for political purposes.
But you are right, we have profoundly different views on that and should move on.
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But somehow I bet it was not a big part of your series.
Actually, it was. Lord Dunmore was discussed extensively. I believe mostly in episodes 1 and 2. He was Scottish. Hope that is not too revisionist for you. Any more pronouncements or conclusions about the show you didn’t watch? That would be like me reviewing Qu’chua literature when I don’t read or speak Qu’chua.
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Zzzzz…. Lord Dunmore was an important protagonist so not a surprise he was discussed. Was the fact he managed to get most blacks to fight for the British discussed is the question.
And still waiting for a yes or no answer on whether you agree fake historians are trying to rewrite History for political purposes.
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The only pronouncement I made on the series was to say I was not surprised at Walt’s comment that there was “an awful lot” of blacks and Indians.
GFY.
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Was the fact he managed to get most blacks to fight for the British discussed is the question.
Yes
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Another take on the Ukraine “deal”, slightly better than the first narrative.
It seems like the US IS offering a military guarantee, and the Russians will have to pay reparations. It also says the Russians will withdraw from southern Ukraine. And Ukraine can join the EU, all that is positive.
But i am opposed to ceding the rest of the Donbas Russia does not currently occupy, reducing the Ukraine military. Suicidal.
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2025/11/21/trumps-ukraine-plan-some-humble-pie-for-everyone-n3809151
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Was the fact he managed to get most blacks to fight for the British discussed is the question.
Yes”
I’ll take your word for it.
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And still waiting for a yes or no answer on whether you agree fake historians are trying to rewrite History for political purposes.
Yes. Now it is your turn. Are fake “facts” being created by historians? Yes or no? If yes, please provide examples. Do not cite the 1619 Project because that is trash by a journalist and not a historian. Then GFY
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When I was in school back in the 1950s to 1964, we learned about the American Revolution. We learned–way back then–about Crispus Attucks (a Black man) being one of those who got killed at the “Boston Massacre”, we learned about Molly Pitcher who followed her husband into battle and when he got shot, then she helped to do things to help operate the cannon.
When I taught school (1969-2003) we very early on taught about women documented cases of women who disguised themselves as men and enlisted SS soldiers for the patriot cause. We taught about the fact that there were other riders besides Paul Revere that rode out to warn the British were coming, and one of them was a woman rider.
I taught how the people in the colonies were sorta divided in thirds: 1/3 favoring fighting -the Brits and getting independence, 1/3 wanting to stay loyal to the King, and 1/3 who were on the fence. I taught about how some Indian tribes helped the Americans and how some helped the British (and why). I taught about the impact on slaves in the south and how the Brits were offering freedom from slavery. I taught about the fact that there were some Blacks who were in the military forces who fought for Independence. I taught about how a significant amount of money to fund the war for independence came from certain Jewish businessmen in America. I taught about the loyalists and how thousands left the colonies and went to Canada to live. I touched on fighting “out west” between the Patriots on one side and Brits and Indians on the other (not nearly as much as Ken Burns did).
IMO, the movement for independence was carried mostly on the shoulders of key MEN (Founding Fathers) who invested of their time, talents, thoughts and ideas, and fortunes for the war and to hammer out and create a new form of government that eventually became the model for lots of the rest of the world. Many of these people (Founding Fathers) bore the brunt of the war and had their homes burned and properties seized and had immense financial loss. The American soldiers who fought, were wounded or killed were overwhelmingly white males They included many prominent and wealthy figures as well as many run of the mill people who did not have lots of wealth.
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Are fake “facts” being created by historians?”
Sure there are.
“Critical race theory” is a bunch of BS many Historians advocate.
The whole history of the ME is being bastardized by historians to pretend it is not ancestral land of Jews, and that Jews are “occupiers”.
There is a solid movement to discredit not only Washington, but other founding fathers like Jefferson, and Lincoln, Churchill and other that don’t fit the woke narrative.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/29/top-scholars-launch-fightback-against-woke-brigades-blatantly/
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he American soldiers who fought, were wounded or killed were overwhelmingly white males”
Careful, that does not fit the woke narrative.
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Critical race theory is a THEORY. Jason admits it. He did not refer to Critical race facts.
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I touched on fighting “out west” between the Patriots on one side and Brits and Indians on the other (not nearly as much as Ken Burns did).
So, Walt. Did Burns lie about the facts presented? Or did he fill in the record? Jason will never watch but I value your opinion.
As for Molly Pitcher, I learned she was awarded a military pension. Never heard that before. Is that woke revisionist garbage?
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Meanwhile, this headline: Minnesota’s Somali Population Funneled Taxpayer Money To Al-Qaeda Ally Planning Another 9/11
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OH NO!!!!
jason says…
“Was the fact he managed to get most blacks to fight for the British discussed is the question.’
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jason believes in his heart and soul that MOST BLACKS in the colonies fought on the side of Britain in the American Revolution!!
A BLATANT LIE is saying that 50%+1 of all Blacks in America fought for the British.
WE ALL KNOW THAT IS NOT TRUE…
THIS is probably why Jason HATES Philadelphia (populated today by a HUGE number of Blacks) since in his mind MOST BLACKS fought against American Independence from Britain and are enemies of representative democracy and the Black descendants in Philly of these Black during the American Rev. probably still hold the same views as their ancestors and should be considered the enemies of all who support our nation.
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[Jason to move the goal post in 3..2..]
(See, Jason, I can spin things just like you to get a big argument started or make a mountain out of a molehill, or make giant leaps of assumptions…)
I think you just like to argue for the sake of arguing.
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And this one in Bitter’s category of NO REDEMPTION: Dem Mayoral Candidate With Child Molestation History Tells Voters They’re “Wrong” to Object
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IYes, Molly Pitcher was awarded a pension.
But I heard there was another woman named Betty Catcher who was NOT awarded a pension.
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A BLATANT LIE is saying that 50%+1 of all Blacks in America fought for the British.
WE ALL KNOW THAT IS NOT TRUE…”
Are you joking?
AI can’t be wrong
“Yes, more Black people fought for the British during the American Revolution, with estimates suggesting up to 20,000 served compared to 5,000–8,000 who fought for the Patriots. This was largely because the British offered freedom to enslaved people who joined their side, a stark contrast to the Continental Army’s initial ban on Black soldiers”
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IMO, you can note and teach that Indians, Blacks (both slave and free), and women made contributions to the Am. Rev.
But you should not at the same time diminish what the Founding Fathers did, nor what the typical male patriot soldier did.
I do not call that woke.
When you diminish the contributions of the founding fathers and denigrate them and diminish the role of the (overwhelmingly) men who took up arms…then that is being woke.
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See, Jason, I can spin things just like you”
What exactly did I spin?
This should be good….
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IMO, you can note and teach that Indians, Blacks (both slave and free), and women made contributions to the Am. Rev.
But you should not at the same time diminish what the Founding Fathers did, nor what the typical male patriot soldier did.
I do not call that woke.
When you diminish the contributions of the founding fathers and denigrate them and diminish the role of the (overwhelmingly) men who took up arms…then that is being woke.”
I completely agree with this.
And I think there are people diminishing those contributions.
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NEW THREAD
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If you have any doubt the founding fathers are being denigrated you are not paying attention.
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“Yes, more Black people fought for the British during the American Revolution, with estimates suggesting up to 20,000 served compared to 5,000–8,000 who fought for the Patriots.”
But YOU SAID that MOST BLACKS supported/fought on the British side.
There were 500,000 Blacks in the colonies in 1776. 25,000 to 28,000 is nowhere close to MOST of the 500,000.
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