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| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
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The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
78 responses to “Still dancing on Ukraine’s grave?”
OA posts at a blog he expected to die. With every post, I deliver a GFY to him.
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Bitter, VDH made ten points in the article posted in the previous thread. Can you say if there are any you think he got wrong, and why? Or are you just going to throw childish tantrums and call people names?
I hope the leg’s getting better.
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John Cardillo
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Yet there are still people who believe Zelenskyyyyy is some kind of hero. He’s a thug like Putin. Neither is better than the other.
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And Jan embarrasses herself again by equating Zelensky to Putin.
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I don’t accept homework requests. I said any deal without a security guarantee upon signing is absurd.
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what wound you consider to be a security guarantee?
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The picture above is a still shot of a young man being grabbed off the streets of Ukraine, carried to an awaiting van and lifted into it, screaming, while his distraught mother (in red) was restrained by Ukrainian goons from reaching him. This is what Vance was confronting Zelenskyy with, the terror of going to war when you don’t want to. There is relatively little democracy left in Ukraine these days, with free speech, free press, religion, Martial Law extended so free elections can’t happen, in full force. But, I guess this is what Bitter and Jason call “freedom.”
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Ok, well VDH is a solid writer. I think he made some solid points. If you’d like to discuss any of them, I’d be interested in why you think he’s wrong.
If not, no worries.
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A security guarantee means the commitment of American troops if/when there’s a next event, which is de facto NATO membership. Anything less is not a guarantee.
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Leg hurts a lot. Forced myself to get up twice. Thanks for asking.
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I call it necessary until Putin stops the attacks. Putin is 100% responsible for this.
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I would appreciate it if bitter would answer. in what form should the security guarantees take?
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Jan, that doesn’t look much like freedom to me. Of course, much of Europe looks less free than it did in the past.
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I hope to dance on the grave of the WEF Globalists. They have taken over Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand and much of Europe. They hate the United States and in particular the anti globalization movements in the world like MAGA. They are enemy number two.
I hope to dance on the grave of the enemy within our own country…the Woke Commie Dems and their propagandist media. They are enemy number one.
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How about this
“Hey, Putin. We just became business partners with Ukraine. If your mf-ing troops move an inch forward or launch weapons towards our new business ventures, death will rain from the skies. Say hi to the aircraft carrier group in the Black Sea. Have a good day. GFY.”
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Europe is a scherotic mess that in many ways no longer exhibit values that align with ours. They will be a caliphate soon anyway.
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you are so brave. Once we are business partners the rest need not even be said. It is implied.
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it does look like you are willing to cede the territory that Russia already controls. “If you move an inch forward.” At least you are recognizing reality on the ground.
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“Hey, Putin. We just became business partners with Ukraine. If…”
Zelenskyy didn’t sign the deal, so we aren’t partners yet! That is the whole Fargin point you keep ignoring for some reason.
I’m back.
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You asked for the first plan. I would have the US claim the deal was for ALL minerals. Oh, look. Time to build another mine and plant. Hey, Putin, move those tanks. We have to dig.
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JeffP used to be a DeSantis supporter and vocal Trump critic. I forget why he joined the Cult.
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The official social media statement by Haltbakk Bunkers statied: “We have today been witnesses to the biggest shitshow ever presented ‘live on tv’ by the current American president and his vice president. Huge credit to the president of Ukraine restraining himself and for keeping calm even though USA 🇺🇸 put on a backstabbing tv show. It made us sick. Short and sweet. As a result, we have decided to immediate STOP as fuel provider to American forces in Norway and their ships calling Norwegian ports.’No Fuel to Americans!’We encourage all Norwegians and Europeans to follow our example. SLAVA UKRAINA 🇺🇦”
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Not to mention the UK giving Zelenskyy a hero’s welcome and more billions. The EU leaders will go it alone against Russia according to Macron.
JD Vance was spot on in his Munich speech. They can go f themselves.
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I was asked what security guarantees I supported. I would not support signing a deal without that.
NYC – You have constantly called me sophomoric, stupid, a bad lawyer, etc. Why would you want to agree with me?
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You’re damn right I can be a vocal critic of Trump anytime I see it necessary. So what?
DeSantis wouldn’t put with this crap from the WEF, EU and Zelenskyy either.
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Hey Tina, here’s another maniac Ukraniac entry to the Putinista Putin lover list. This time it’s Ukrainian borne GOP lawmaker Sparz. She’s clearly a Putin toadie for criticizing the Ukraniac’s beloved leader Zelensky. There’s no way her take can be sincere and legitimate because it conflicts with the Ukraniac all or none view –
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/you-can-go-to-hell-ukrainian-born-gop-lawmaker-lashes-out-at-zelensky/ar-AA1A2Fqa?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=b956423aff644c83b4dca3edfaa467bd&ei=11
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Fla2025 on the above post. Sorry bitterlawyer, it keeps doing that
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ok bitter. You tell the Russians to move back so you can dig. They tell you they won’t. Now what do you do?
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You are the one who believe’s in Trump’s magic powers and how much Putin respects/fears him. You tell me.
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I don’t know why is does that.
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And you have not criticized Trump since you joined the Cult.
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She has been anti-Zelensky for more than 2 years.
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“NYC – You have constantly called me sophomoric, stupid, a bad lawyer, etc.”
Pretty sure I have limited any critique to a specific comment you would have made. You have worked for a long time to support your family, so obviously those words don’t apply to the whole person.
in regards to my latest comment towards you, Zelenskyy didn’t sign the deal which would trigger Trump saying the things you want him to say. The fault then clearly falls on Zelenskyy, since Trump can’t say anything until he has a deal with Ukraine.
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That was me.
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No. The fault clearly fall on Trump for not working out the security guarantee before signing the deal.
I will save you thousands of words and hundreds of posts. I will never support Putin over Zelensky. I will never support Russia over Ukraine. I will never defer to Trump’s judgement over Zelensky’s when it comes to the survival of Ukraine.
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All from the comfort of your home……
got it!
-nycmike23
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You should also write “I will never go to Ukraine, I will never make my kids go to fight for Ukraine, I won’t even say send US troops to Ukraine, that’s how much I really care!”
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Bitter operates a political discussion board, but won’t engage in political discussion.
Both are true.
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He is a thug. No better than Pooty.
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And you want Ukraine fall from the comfort of your home. It would cost you nothing to favor Zelensky over Putin but you can’t even do that.
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LindseyGrahamSC
To the hand-wringing Europeans who felt offended by President Trump rejecting being lectured by President Zelensky: Be my guest to defend Ukraine from Putin. It is long past time for the Europeans to show they are capable of defending their own continent.
They’ve allowed their militaries to be hollowed out and when Europe speaks, no bad guy listens. I say this with great sadness: The last group of people that I would count on to defend freedom are the Europeans.
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The thug now wants $250 billion from Europe (no conditions) if we pull out.
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And you can write that you literally don’t care about how many dead Ukrainians or whether Ukraine survives because Putin’s victory is ok with you.
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I want the following:
Regime change.
$350 billion with 15 percent interest.
A handover of all people involved of killing Gonzalo Lira.
No more phuqin around with the thug.
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Islanders kicked the extra point, score seven goals.
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It was never $350 billion.
Go ask Putin for the money. He is solely responsible for the costs of this war.
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Nothing has changed at HHR.
The same people that hated Zelensky, opposed aid, shilled for Putin and wanted Russia to win still hate Zelensky, oppose aid, shill for Putin and want Russia to win.
Those of us who side with Ukraine against the invaders, support aid to Ukraine, and oppose Russia’s expansionist agenda still side with Ukraine, support aid, and oppose Russia’s expansionist agenda.
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I answered the questions.
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No security guarantee, might as well surrender now.
Zelensky understands that, that is why he told Trump and Vance to f–k off.
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A security guarantee means the commitment of American troops if/when there’s a next event, which is de facto NATO membership. Anything less is not a guarantee.
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Zzzzz….
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Let me be very clear. People can post what they want. I do not care if everybody stays or goes. I refuse to change my posts to make people feel better about themselves. Most of the posters disappoint me now. A truly heartless group.
I’m not leaving. Do what you want.
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Ok, well VDH is a solid writer. I think he made some solid points. If you’d like to discuss any of them, I’d be interested in why you think he’s wrong.”
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He made 10 solid Putin talking points, I will grant him that.
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I do not care if everybody stays or goes.”
Those that unhappy can go elsewhere and/or start their own blogs.
But they won’t.
They rather stay here and whine.
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Putina never calls for regime change in Russia.
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Jason sez….”Those that unhappy can go elsewhere and/or start their own blogs.
But they won’t.
They rather stay here and whine.”
Like Jason about the registration system and DW not fixing a WordPress issue quick enough.
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chicon, that was a fun game to watch. I havent seen eleven goals in a game in a long time.
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Let’s get regime change in Russia, but no US troops.
Let’s evict Russia from every square inch of Ukraine, but no US troops.
Let’s move to the real world…..
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TuckerCarlson
One of the most striking things about yesterday’s Zelensky press conference was Lindsey Graham’s reaction to it. The two are old friends, but Graham disavowed him within the hour. This was more than just transactional disloyalty. It was scapegoating. Lindsey Graham knows what’s coming. Over the past three years, with the tacit support of its western patrons, the Ukrainian government has committed a remarkable number of serious crimes. The Ukrainians sold huge quantities of American weapons on the international black market at twenty cents on the dollar.
These weapons are now in the hands of armed groups around the world, including Hamas, the Mexican drug cartels and the forces now controlling Syria. God knows what the Ukrainians have done with the pathogens in American biolabs in their country. Even US intel agencies aren’t sure. The Ukrainians have also murdered a number of people in various countries in political assassinations, and tried to murder others, including American journalists and a European head of state. This is all true, and it’s all going to come out at some point. Better to start blaming it on Zelensky now.
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“It would cost you nothing to favor Zelensky over Putin but you can’t even do that.”
I favor an independent Ukraine over a conquering Russia, which is why I believe Trumps deal is the way to go.
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islanders will get shutout the next 3 games……..can you tell I’m a bit cynical about their chance of success?
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that was me.
goodnight
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Tucker is a Pro-Putin scumbag.
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It’s all going to come out but hasn’t yet? LOL
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NYC said….can you tell I’m a bit cynical about their chance of success?
The emotional stance of a true fan!
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Putin did not have to reach a peace agreement. He just did not have to invade.
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but he did. And that reality is where we are today. The choice it to find a way to stop the war and killing or simply allow it to continue as the meat grinder statement it is.
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And none of the Cult feel bad or blame only Putin for it.
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Like Jason about the registration system and DW not fixing a WordPress issue quick enough.”
I got around it or I wouldn’t be here.
You come here on a daily basis to whine and compulsively lie and pretend you are being “misinterpreted” and to beg to be allowed to post any BS you want and complain you don’t get free lunches.
I guess you haven’t found anywhere you can be a scumbag liar without being banned so you are still here.
Congratulations.
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Russia invades Ukraine Synopsis
I think we all should agree on the following:
–Russia took over Crimea when Obama was president and the U.S. basically did nothing in response.
–Russia invaded Ukraine when Biden was president, probably sensing that Biden would not respond.
–The Ukes, did fight back valiantly and successfully pushed the Orks back.
–The fighting has turned into a meat grinding, WW I trench warfare type of war with no end in sight.
–the European nations provided lots of humanitarian aid and military aid, but not enough for uto actually win, just successfully defend and inflict lots of casualties on the Russian Orks. Apparently, the European nations were able to get Zelinskyy to promise/give them some financial things in return for their assistance.
–the U.S. provided lots of humanitarian aid and military aid, bur not enough for the Ukes to win…But the U.S. never bothered to get any financial repay from Zelenskyy.
–To end the fighting, Trump proposes a SEVERAL steps approach. A) FIRST, get the Ukes to sign a rare earth minerals agreement with U.S. That way, the U.S. can recoup some of the $$$ we shipped to Ukraine during the war in military and humanitarian and economic aid. B) the development of which will benefit both UKE and U.S. economies C) the potential economic collaboration will perhaps be a trip wire deterrent that would prevent Putin from invading Ukraine yet again, because an invasion of UKe would actually involve U.S. economic interests. D) Trump wants to also have further steps that would lead to a cease fire, end of the bloodshed and mayhem, and for Putin to back down, etc.
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Do we all agree on the above?
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The choice it to find a way to stop the war and killing or simply allow it to continue as the meat grinder statement it is.”
Zzzzz…..
You are worried about “meat grinder” but never once had a word of condemnation for Putin or his war crimes in Ukraine.
What a flaming hypocrite.
You don’t care about killing. All you care is that Zelensky’s heroic stand has kept Russia from winning.
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Do we all agree on the above?”
No.
We didn’t attach such restrictions on the aid, which in any case was IN OUR INTEREST.
These were not loans to be paid back. The funds were approved by Congress and delivered without any “payback” provisions.
2 Your analysis of what Trump “wants” is ok, but lacks the fact that it is contingent upon trusting Putin, a guy that already has proven cannot be trusted. As such Trump’s “plan”, if you can call it that, is unrealistic and unfeasible.
The only way Trump’s initiative could work is if the US provides security guarantees. It does not even have to be troops on the ground. It could be a promise that if Putin violates the agreement, the US will massively arm Ukraine with offensive weapons and share intelligence that would make it easy for Ukraine to target the invaders.
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Here are some other things I think we could all agree on:
–The Ukes hate the Russian Orks for what the Russians have done to them. The Ukrainians want Russia to vacate the lands they took since the invasion, as well as the “Dumbass” Region, etc, in eastern Ukraine.
–The Ukes are probably not too happy that U.S. foreign policy since the Russian takeover of Crimea has failed to stop (actually encouraged) Russian aggression and invasion.
–Russia did invade Ukraine three years ago, and that was Putin’s decision–unless you think that Ukraine started it all simple because it happened to be geographically there where Putin had a desire to be.
–But the was is a stalemate and neither side can really win militarily, so the above is a pipe dream. unless there is direct involvement of the US/NATO forces–which opens a whole new can of worms.
–There are lots of questions about the degree of corruption in Ukraine as to the funds/war materiel we have sent them.
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NOW, here are some legitimate points to discuss:
Firstly, Why did Zelnskyy come all the way to the U.S. to sign the minerals deal when he apparently had no intention of signing the minerals deal?
Did Z really think that he could finagle Trump to, at this time and place, give security guarantee to Ukraine?
Does Z NOT realize that this is a FIRST STEP to ending the war?
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Secondly, has Trump (and the media) successfully explained to the American people that the minerals deal is just the FIRST STEP in bringing about an end to the fighting in Ukraine?
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Thirdly, has Trump’s typical goofiness in his speaking of saying nice things about Putin and calling Z a dictator helped CAUSE Zelinskyy to dig in his heels and push back in signing the minerals deal?
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IMO, the U.S. should at MINIMUM push Russia to:
–cease fire
–troop pull back
–militarily de-escalate their military buildup around Ukraine
–send all North Korea and other foreign troops home
–return all captured Uke combat persons
–return all Ukrainians the Russians “relocated”/kidnapped, or whatever
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What I would also LIKE to happen is
–Russia pay big amount of reparations to Ukraine for the death and destruction they have caused there so they can rebuilt
–Russia have to pull out of Crimea
Russian have to pull out of the Dunbass and other Eastern regions they were occupying before the Russians invaded 3 years ago.
Russian troops be prosecuted for war crimes.
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“Your analysis of what Trump “wants” is ok, but lacks the fact that it is contingent upon trusting Putin, a guy that already has proven cannot be trusted. As such Trump’s “plan”, if you can call it that, is unrealistic and unfeasible.”
jason,
I totally agree that Putin cannot be trusted.
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The only way Trump’s initiative could work is if the US provides security guarantees. It does not even have to be troops on the ground. It could be a promise that if Putin violates the agreement, the US will massively arm Ukraine with offensive weapons and share intelligence that would make it easy for Ukraine to target the invaders.”
jason,
I fully understand the desire for UKraine to get security guarantee. Putin is adamantly opposed to Ukraine gaining NATO membership. Some NATO members seem like they are opposed to Ukraine joining NATO. Trump has said that Ukraine becoming a member of NATO is a no-go. If NATO(and U.S. as part of NATO) is not willing to provide security guarantee, I fully agree with you that the U.S. needs to provide the security guarantee as you outlined above.
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The Ukrainiacs can now add moderate Republican Michael Goodwin to the Putinista “cult” list for his article this morning entitled “Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal”.
Key excerpt – “Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.).
“Just finished a meeting with President Zelensky here in Washington. He confirmed that the Ukrainian people will not support a fake peace agreement where Putin gets everything he wants and there are no security arrangements for Ukraine,” Murphy’s office posted on X at 11:15 a.m. Friday.
He attached a picture of Zelensky at a conference table, with Murphy seated on the opposite side.
Forty minutes later, Zelensky arrived at the White House, where Trump met his car, smiled, shook his hand and walked him into the Oval Office.The meeting, as the world now knows, quickly went off the rails and ended with Trump angrily ejecting the arrogant ingrate from the White House.
The earlier meeting with Dems undercuts wild claims that Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance staged an ambush. In fact, it was Zelensky who came with an ulterior motive.
The purpose of the meeting was to sign the mineral agreement he and Trump representatives had negotiated. He had twice refused to sign it after promising to, and thanks to Murphy, we now know he had no intention of signing it Friday.
By listening to the nakedly partisan advice of Dems instead of dealing forthrightly with the current president, Zelensky betrayed his countrymen and, for now at least, leaves them without the military and diplomatic protection that only America can provide.
Good luck counting on Britain, France and the rest of Europe to save Ukraine. Maybe the Germans will send strudel.
read more here –
https://nypost.com/2025/03/01/opinion/dems-lead-zelensky-ukraine-off-a-cliff-with-pressure-to-reject-mineral-deal/
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Has Zelenskyy said what “security guarantee” means to him?
Jason says that sending stuff, money and intelligence would suffice. Does Z agree? If not, do we promise American troops?
Also, Zelenskyy has at least twice said he’d sign the minerals deal before refusing to do so. Now he’s saying again he will sign it. C’mon man….
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NT. Enjoy it.
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