Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
 | GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
| GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
223 responses to “Debate Open Thread!”
Thread rule. If you don’t watch the debate, your comments about the debate are zzzzzzzzz.
Jason to bitch and moan in 3…2…1…
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Bitch
and
moan,
two of my best friends and greatest talents
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I think Biden definitely won the debate.
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Of course he did, eh totally called out the Felon who created COVID, caged children, takes away rights and is a racist
I think that covers it
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IS BIDEN STILL BREATHING
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“TRUMP’S FAULT!”
“BLEACH IN ARM” lol
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Both walk on stage. No falls.
Up first. Inflation. Biden blames Trump. Bleach. Raspy voice.
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Can you see Biden’s ear piece yet?
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Corporate greed.
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Trump smirking.
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Almost a minute in and Trump has not yet acted like an A$$hole.
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Biden sounds terrible. Old and sick. Trump is tame so far.
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Trump – Greatest economy in the world until Biden F’ed it up.
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Biden not looking straight into camera. Disconcerting.
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I think he is going to be tame. I heard in their debate prep that Biden was specifically concentrating on provoking Trump to make him look bad.
Trump’s handlers were prepping him to be constrained, presidential like when they asked about retribution, and he said his retribution would be getting elected.
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Trump supports tariffs. Stupid.
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Trump supports tarrifs. Good.
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Tax cuts spur growth.
Bryce Harper pulls up holding left hamstring. (Switched to game when tariffs mentioned).
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Trump is strong early.
Jake is a jerk.
Biden sounds old and sickly.
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Fantastic
Hate to see that, even to a Phillie. Those are bad and can take a long time.
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“TAX THE RICH” will solve all our problems, says Biden.
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Trump attacks Biden on illegals. Biden attacks tax cuts.
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BIDEN first BRAIN FREEZE!
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Biden is losing it. This is sad.
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Biden froze. Senior abuse. His wife is a disgrace.
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Look at the camera, damn it.
Biden starts to lose focus while discussing Medicare.
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Biden looks old and decrepit.
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Biden is staring like an old man that can’t follow what’s going on around him.
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Here comes abortion….
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ABORTION!
Trump just needs to say it is not a federal/constitutional issue.
It is a therefore a state issue.
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Sorry… 1 great SCOTUS judge… Mr President.
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Trump also not looking directly at camera.
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Im out with the boys so relying on you all to fill me in, what did he say about the SCOTUS
How did Trump do on Aborrrrrrttttiiioooonn
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Yep
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After birth?
Does he mean partial birth?
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Biden–equates raping women by their inlaws, and other relatives to illegal immigrants raping and killing women in U.S.???
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Biden is slurry his words now. Stuttering… so sad.
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Biden: “we are not for late erm abortions. period.”
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They aren’t shutting off Bidens microphone.
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Biden – Girl was murdered by immigrants. Girls are being raped every day by their fathers, in-laws, brothers and sisters.
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MAGA REPUBLICANS EVIL!
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Decent questions.
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could it truly be they wanted the debate so early so that they could replace him if its that bad, rather than have this show in September when its too late
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SOUTHERN BORDER:
TRUMP PUT ILLEGAL ALIEN BABIES IN CAGES!
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Biden – Trump killed border security.
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I called the babies in cages. Tell him what he’s won Pat
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Trump is crushing it. Even if Biden was normal … he is on his game tonight.
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The moderators are fine. Even handed.
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Everything is a lie!
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Biden is a mess. Period. I can’t even believe it.
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WILL TRUMP DEPORT ALLI LLEGALS?
(unable to comment because my son and wife are carrying on an unimportant conversation and I cannot hear the TV)
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Here comes Beau Biden.
Biden calls Trump a sucker and loser.
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Yep
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It’s ridiculous.
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Trump blames Biden for Ukraine. Zzzzz. Should only blame Putin.
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Russia/Ukraine:
[Biden frozen face..]
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He didn’t answer directly. I would say no.
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Hamas was broke until Biden gave Iran money
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“Do whatever you want” ?
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Biden frozen face again
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The Queens Trump is coming out now.
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Trump dodging question
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Trump criticizes Zelensky for getting military aid. Boooooooo
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Biden: ???
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Hope someone is fact-checking Biden. Biden is awful – lying, slurring, and sounding like an incompetent man, let alone leader of the free world.
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He can’t talk either or articulate any position of his own.
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He is doing a lot of that lately.
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Israel/Hamas:
How do you get the war to stop?
(bad and dumb question)
Biden, dumb answer
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Bien saved Israel from Iran?
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Middle East. Hamas killed more than 1000 Israelus. Israel has killed thousands in Gaza.
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DID Biden say that he was in Europe for WW1??
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I must have slept through that.
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Listening to Biden is like watching Javy Baez swing at pitches a foot out of the strike zone repeatedly.
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Trump: get European nations to help Israel more.
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Israel shouldn’t attack so broadly. – Biden
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“I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence.” Perhaps my favorite Trump debate moment of all time.
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Trump – Biden is like a bad Palestinian.
I have no idea what he meant.
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TRump mentions nato in relations to the Isreal/Hamas question
Biden attacks trump for anting to pull out of Nato?
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Trump – We are protected from Putin by the ocean.
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DEMOCRACY! JAN, 6th!
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OK, here comes Trump on Jan 6. question
Total dodge and misdirection.
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Trump says he offered 10,000 troops and Pelosi turned it down.
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Biden —->. Liar, liar pants on fire.
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BIDEN: TRUMP WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR JAN 6 VIOLENCE!
Trump election will be a bloodbath!
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Trump – Pelosi turned down National Guard.
Biden says he sat in Oval Office on January 6th. Calls Trump a whiner.
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Ah, convicted felon is now brought up by Biden.
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SEATLE! MINNIAPOLIS!
Select committee on Jan 6. destroyed evidence.
Biden: Only convicted felon here is Trump
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Convicted felon. Drink.
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Biden asks Tump to denounce the Jan. 6 rioters
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Biden is the felon protected by the media. He should be convicted of treason and in jail.
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Hunter is a convicted felon.
Drink.
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RETRIBUTION?
Hunter is a convicted felon.
Pot. Kettle.
“Joe Biden is criminal.”
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Calls Biden a criminal.
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Bringing up sex with a porn star? That was about as un Presidential as you can get. Which is a lie.
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Biden – Trump is the only President to seek retribution. Trump is an alley cat.
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Biden” trump is a crook, sex with porn star, etc., morals of an alley cat.
Trump: no sex with porn star
(I can see A$$hole Trump about to emerge.)
Trump{ all about me, got lots of campaign money after I was charged….convicted
Uggh
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People realize the democracy is more at risk because of the Woke Commie Dems.
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Did Biden say his son died in Iraq?
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Biden – Anybody who votes for Trump is against democracy.
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Charlottesville. Drink.
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These people are evil.
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‘FINE PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES’ lie being repeated by Biden again.
Trump babbling…off topic..
Trump needs to get back to tell what Trump really said about Charlottesville.
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Is it me, or did 4 years go by but we are now back in Summer 2020?
Trump, please just make every reply about the border, foreign wars and inflation
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BREAK
What a pity we have these two fools to choose from.
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Trump is getting sidetracked.
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Back from commercial.
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Sitting in the San Francisco Hyatt Regency watching. My wife and I were here 10 years ago on our 25th anniversary. This city is a dump. Sooooo many boarded up and closed stores…homeless people…dirty. It’s so sad. Not one police officer in sight so far today. Ten years ago they were everywhere. Only a liberal would be okay with the decline.
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Blacks are not doing well. Biden says it’s not that bad.
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Biden – Forgive student loans.
Trump – Biden hurts everybody with inflation. Hurts blacks and Hispanics with illegals taking jobs.
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@MattWalshBlog
“What the hell are we doing. How can any sane person watch this decomposing husk on stage and say they want four more years of it? Stop the madness.”
I agree.
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Trump – Wants clean air and water. Used all forms of energy.
Biden says he passed clean energy bill.
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FYI…This debate could break records in the middle of summer at 9 pm.
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CLIMATE CHANGE!
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Climate change is threat to humanity -Biden
Trump – Paris Accord was a waste of American money.
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SOCIAL SECURITY!
BIDEN; TAX THE RICH!
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Dana Bash cuts off Biden answer. Biden looks stunned.
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to save social security
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This is the last debate folks.
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“TRUMP WANTS TO GET RID OF SOCIAL SECURITY”
Drink.
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Make wealthy pay fair share.
Drink.
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LOL
Biden “He (Trump) just does not know what he is talking about.”
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Trump calling out Biden as a liar… good. Jan is shouting hallelujah!
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He lies.
No he lies.
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Who will replace Biden?
Shapiro
Whitmer
Newsome
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Biden repeating his talking points.
Trump repeating his talking points.
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Great attack comeback by Trump on Biden not firing anyone.
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Two inarticulate fools.
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Whitmer
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Or Nitwhitmer.
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LOL
Biden:
“Nobody wants to mess with the U.S.”
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Or the wicked witch of the Midwest.
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Trump and Biden call each other the worst President in history.
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SPEND MORE ON CHILD CARE
Drink.
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It’s ridiculous. Hyperbole Bowl.
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Two inarticulate fool.
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ive said whitmer for a long time, but I don’t know, I think they might ride this one out with Joe
Dems seem to think he’s killing Trump in the debate, judging by their pundits
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Trump won’t answer question about reducing cost of child care.
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OPIODS! AND OVERDOSE DEATHS!
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Trump rambling, off message.
Typical
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“Trump won’t answer question about reducing cost of child care.”
-Every answer should revert back to border, illegal immigration and inflation.
Trump seems unable to keep it simple
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Trump proud of tariffs. But want answer softball question about reducing addiction and fentanyl deaths. Then said he did a great job.
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Trump:
“We bought the dog”?
Gotaways…rambling…
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Biden:
“Trump killed my good proposal about southern border and immigration.”
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Biden – Needs machines to detect fentanyl.
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Trump off message…or obfuscating so he does not have to answer the questions.
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@Redistrict
DaveWasserman
“This debate making abundantly clear that Biden’s insistence on running for another term – when 66% of voters in our swing state poll believe it’s likely he won’t be able to finish a second term – has gravely jeopardized Dems’ prospects to defeat Trump.”
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Watching this Trump should win easily. Right now I am more concerned about NHL free agents.
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Age issue:
Biden: look at all I have done.
“Fabs”?
“We are the envy of the world.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Trump:
I passed two cognitive tests.
Trump: says, more or less, I am a physical stud.
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Biden says he is still with it.
Trump says he is still with it.
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Trump…”lets not be children” LOL
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Biden
I was a 6 handicap
I was an 8 handicap
I will play Trump in a round of golf, if he caries his own bags.”
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They are now arguing about their golf scores. Seriously.
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What a stage full of turds.
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Biden and Trump both say if the other is elected we will have WW III
Dear God, can we remove both of these at the top of the ticket?
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Biden will drive us into WW3
Trump will destroy NATO.
They should go back to arguing about golf.
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Trump will accept result of free and fair election. Then goes off on 2020.
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Biden says Trump is a whiner.
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No evidence of any cheating in 2020 election” says Biden
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“Trump will destroy NATO.”
-4 years of governing is evidence that he won’t.
Should European countries fulfill their NATO promise to spend 2% of their budget on defense spending? They all need to chip in.
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About twenty times.
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Dems will substitute another into Biden’s presidential slot.
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anyone want to score this so far?
I would have to assume Trump didn’t hurt himself in this debate, correct?
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agree with janz
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The DeSantis vs Newsome debate was much better. RDS beat him down so bad his wife stopped it. RDS will probably never be nominated but that was a beat down I will always remember.
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After seeing this debate, and realizing one of these two idiots will win in November, I have decided to give my wife the go ahead to spend $5,800 on a trip for us to Scotland in 2025. No reason to save the money we have. Might as well blow it on a good time and try to put who is president out of my mind.
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Trump was good in the beginning, but then wondered off topic as this event continued. Biden’s voice was scratchy and unappealing, as was the general articulation of his responses peppered with so many distortions of the truth.
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Judge Trump by his time as President and the policies he governed with, not by his debate appearances.
Grow up.
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Closing statements….both saying just what you would expect.
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Trump is blowing his closing statement. Too bad…..
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Michelle Obama trending….
This nation is doomed even worse than we thought.
Walt and Miss Daisy may want to stay in Scotland if that happens
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Closing.
Biden – Trump will increase costs and destroy Medicare. Biden will expand Medicare and deal with lead pipes making people sick.
Trump – Illegals. Afghanistan. Ukraine. Countries don’t respect America. Biden undid his achievements.
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It didn’t changed anything.
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CNN and MSNBC – Biden started slow and halting. Democrats worried about Biden’s performance. Trump just lied but was coherent.
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Just think how this would have gone if the Rs chose DeSantis and NOT Trump.
Biden could not attack on:
–Jan 6 and save democracy
–sex with porn stars
–Trump’s big deficits
–Charlottesville falsity
–Trump calling dead soldiers suckers falsity
–Convicted felon
–the age issue
–what else am i missing…
other than DESANTIS WOULD HAVE DEBATED FAR MORE EFFECTIVELY THAN TRUMP.
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Not nominating DeSantis was a lost opportunity for sure.
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“Walt and Miss Daisy may want to stay in Scotland if that happens”
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I like shortbread.
Cannot do haggis.
But I do look good in a kilt (with a tilt).
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Joe had a cold. LOLOLOL
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Donna Brazile…lol
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Grades – Trump started as a B and lost focus to end as a B-.
Biden – Started as a C. Got up to B-. Finished unfocused at C.
Van Jones – Biden hurt him deeply because he loved him but should consider dropping out.
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Politico says Biden is toast.
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He started off pretty good until he turned into Queens Trump.
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Biden will be replaced.
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CNN trashing Biden.
MSNBC trying hard to spin it. Biden is honest but a very poor communicator. Trump is just a liar.
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The DNC apparently is in full panic mode and the lawfare isn’t enough.
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Thread rule. If you don’t watch the debate, your comments about the debate are zzzzzzzzz.
Jason to bitch and moan in 3…2…1…”
Uhhhhhh…….. hmmmmmm…….ahhhhhhhhh
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Betting markets not happy with Biden
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7456/Who-will-win-the-2024-US-presidential-election
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I don’t think Whitmer beats Trump. Certainly not in GA, AZ, NV…don’t know about the rust belt.
Dont know who else is on the bench. They are now pushing Sherrod Brown in Ohio…he’d be a disaster. Ive even heard Mayorkis name thrown about because he’s hispanic. HAHAHAH
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Who will be the nominee…Biden down .32 cents to .51!!!! from $0.83 ouch
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https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7057/Who-will-win-the-2024-Democratic-presidential-nomination
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Michelle Obama, a black woman, is who some believe is the most viable candidate to replace Biden, in lieu of passing over Harris.
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LOL
“Biden would have to agree to be replaced”
Suggestion on the Internet
“Just tell him that he agreed”
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Anyone else wonder if Trump announces Youngkin as VP running mate tomorrow in VA?
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Biden would need to be replaced at the Convention I think…to avoid Harris.
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DRUDGE POLL** WHO SHOULD REPLACE BIDEN?
Total Votes: 31,239
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Let me make clear i still don’t think Biden will be replaced.
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I don’t think Michelle wants the job. She is happy writing books, making $$$, and traveling.
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For that reason.
There is no “other”.
Once you give anybody in the Dem party a name, they are all losers.
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Franky, I don’t think Michelle Obama could beat Trump.
Everyone knows Biden is Obama’s third term. How many people really want a fourth?
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I hear Biden said he ‘beat Medicare’ in the debate.
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Anderson Cooper was interviewing Harris. He said, “Your side pushed for this debate to happen now. Are you seriously pleased with this result?”
Harris replied, “He had a bad start. I can’t hide that. But he’s really awesome.”
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Anyone else wonder if Trump announces Youngkin as VP running mate tomorrow in VA?”
I would go out and help Macron out with a bottle of French champagne
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Ok. She did not say “really awesome” but I was summarizing a much longer rambling answer.
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Harris replied, “He had a bad start. I can’t hide that. But he’s really awesome.”
Anyone ask Jill yet?
She is the decider.
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He had a bad start and a cold.
That seems to be the narrative.
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Who came out as the ultimate winner of the debate tonight?
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I say America’s adversaries.
China is probably tonight considering to go ahead and invade Taiwan tonight.
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It was nice to see tonight that both candidates
–stuck to the issues
–avoided trying to insult one another or take cheap shots
–set a good example for the American public to follow in treating each other respectfully
–laid out a clear strategy of how they, as president would successfully address all the major issues if they were elected in Nov.
–helped to bring America together.
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forgot to add.
HA HA HA!
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Going now top check on DRUDGE to see whether people who respond to their poll want the nursing home patient who has n brain or the megalomanic felon.
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CNN – Trump lied 30 times. Biden lied 9 times.
MSNBC is trying to spin argument to Biden is inept but honest. Trump is still Satan.
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Oh sh!t !!
DRUDGE’s poll is not about who won the debate.
It is about WHO SHOUD THE DEMS GET TO REPLACE BIDEN!
You gotta be Sh!tting me.
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Supposedly Biden said abortion is needed because a lot of women are being raped by their brothers and sisters.
I guess these are brothers who became sister but still have penises.
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I think it will be Tim Scott as VP after all.
I am ok with that.
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Rueers article:
“Trump unleashed a barrage of criticisms including well-worn falsehoods like migrants carrying out a crime wave and that Democrats support infanticide”
WELL-WORN FALSEHOODS??
Facts, bro.
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He should have denounced the violent ones.
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Biden doesn’t blink. That is a sign of dementia and stress. Vacant stare, trying to concentrate on what Trump is saying, and stressing out.
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The Dems lie about what Trump said about J6 and Charlottesville. Qualifying your answer to give any respect to those lies is a losers game.
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IMO BOTTOM LINE:
Biden strategy was to throw things at Trump and get him unhinged and to be an a$$hole
–sex with pOrn star
–Jan. 6
–Charlottsville statement (which was false)
–big deficit (Joe does not want you to factor in COVID}
–felony conviction
–dead soldiers are suckers (which was false)
–all sorts of Trump trials in various courts
NONE OF IT WORKED TO GET TRUMP TO BE AS BIG AN A-HOLE AS HE IS AN COULD BE
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On the other hand, I am not sure what Trump’s strategy was.
Maybe just harp on inflation, economy, Biden foreign policy disasters of Afghanistan withdrawal, Russia/Ukraine war, Israel/Hamas war, 9 million illegals and drugs pouring over southern border and the murders and other crimes by Biden’s illegals.
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I AM SURPISED (unless I missed it when my wife and son were jabbering, and I could not hear TV) THAT THERE WAS ALMOST NOTHING ON Biden admin. U.S. ENERGY POLICY
If Trump “prepared’” for the debate, it did not show.
If Biden “prepared” for the debate, it sure was a waste of time for Biden and his handlers. You cannot make chick soup out of chicken crap.
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I wonder if Democrats will start shifting donations from Biden to Dem Senate and House races to stop Trump as President. Maybe a third, fourth and fifth impeachment.
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Grades-
Trump D
Biden F
Democrats have a decision to make. I always dismissed it could come to this, but there is really no alternative now. Biden has to be replaced. If Democrats are at all serious about the threats that Trump poses, they have no choice. None.
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so Corey gives trump a D -exoected
anyway, for the first time I’m beginning to believe that I was right. They held the debate in June. To give themselves a chance to replace Biden. I also agree it will be Whitmer or new some. I believe both will lose bigly
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Beden’s performance was so bad that, for the first time, I think they are going to replace Bidebn (health reasons).
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No way Biden can win in November.
Some chance some other D can…but I don’t see any D who electable, and who can turn 4 years of real crap of D Biden rule into an apple pie with ice cream on it.
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Trump 335 Biden 203 if the election were held tomorrow after this fiasco.
how many days until the convention
More than that if he pics Younkin or Scott
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TYT discusses Biden terrible debate
https://x.com/ULTRA_MAJESTY/status/1806530535683952988
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