Jan says preventing the murder of Ukrainians is a questionable benefit. Discuss.
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The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
90 responses to “Weeken Open Thread.”
Jan is a ghoulish person.
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This is what I said:
“Everything is going to get more expensive, as people are already struggling with current inflationary prices for food, gas etc. And yet, we are again being told to send more money we don’t have abroad for the questionable benefit of others
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Here are some facts for the weekend
=One cannot claim to be pro-Israel and also be anti-Ukraine. The battles they face have many similarities. Of course, this also applies to those on the left who think they can be pro-Ukraine and anti-Israel.
Israel needs American support, as it has always had, but they are also in a far more advantageous military situation than Ukraine has been in against Putin.
-One cannot claim to be anti-Hamas and be pro-Russia, or somehow morally ambivalent about what Russia has done to Ukrainians. Both Hamas and Putin have used kidnapping of children. raping of women, and attacking civilians as their tactics.
=The United States must continue to support both Israel and Ukraine. If the U.S. retreats from the world in the face of political pressure, it is an open invitation to all the bad actors in the world, including China do even more dastardly acts and all of that will put our security at great risk.
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I stand by my post. You call saving the lives of Ukrainians from Russian invaders a questionable benefit. Own it.
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That “questionable benefit” obviously refers to the lack of oversight associated with the aid, substantiated by a real audit tracking what is being given as aid. The continuing corruption in that country has been well documented for years – both way before and after the war. Why should you assume it’s no different in how our aid is being used?
The treasury just came out today saying we have a $1.7 trillion dollar deficit looming over us. Some are saying those numbers have been played with and are even higher. What has to happen to those obsessively willing to give anything to Ukraine, indefinitely, for them to see how lopsided our help has been, even in how we are allocating meager sums of monies to Israel and importantly to our own disaster of a southern border!??? Bitter and Jason, why don’t you guys mortgage your homes and give the money over to Ukraine to stop the “murder,” as you both don’t seem to mind collecting more debt.
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Nice dancing. So you admit that you assume there is no oversight. No proof.
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Bunu is back.
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Jan was probably against military spending under Reagan. Russia was never going to invade Alabama and we still spent money on defense.
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The filter is holding. GFY, Bunu.
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Any genocide in Gaza is being done by Hamas. They have brutalized innocent Palestinian people for far too long. The U.S. should support Israel in eradicating Hamas. The people of Gaza will be far better off if that happens.
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I would support this man for speaker:
https://floridaphoenix.com/2023/10/20/floridas-byron-donalds-is-now-a-candidate-for-u-s-house-speaker/
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There’s little to no proof of any significant oversight, except the Pentagon mouthing they are watching the funding. In the meantime Zelenskyy has fired officials for their corruption. Also, why should our monies go to pay for their pension funds, first responders and business people, when we are having UAW, screenwriters, actor, hospital workers, pending pharmacy strikes all over wages and benefits?
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Bryan Donalds has officially announced his candidacy for House Speaker. I posted a link to this announcement, but my post was promptly put into moderation status.
Anyway, Donalds is someone I could definitely support.
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People in Ukraine have lost everything because Putin attacked their country. Small business people, teachers, hospital workers, first responders, all in tremendous need in Ukraine as the country just tries to survive.
Yet, janzam is worried about Hollywood actors.
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Of course the people in Ukraine did not choose to have their livelihoods threatened. They did not choose to have to care for so many wounded civilians because of Russian bombs, whereas jan’s precious celebrity actors (along with all the other labor unions) chose to go on strike.
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janzam would prefer U.S. taxpayer money to go towards the UAW union who is demanding a 40 percent raise and a 4 day work week and towards SAG-AFTRA. Yes, that would be a great use of our “monies”, wouldn’t it?
By the way, the writers guild strike has been over for weeks now. I do not know if any of them could actually write a script about someone as myopic as you jan.
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I have nothing new to add to anything, except I think the moron Rs in the House of Rep. are being imbecilic by refusing to elect any R as speaker and keeping things at a standstill where nobody can get anything done.
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100% wrong. No legislation passed for over a week.
Can we make it a month?
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Biden made 50 million off this thing.
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Craig Kimbrel is now in charge of the filter.
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Donalds is lacking in support of Ukraine.
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My weekend is already ruined. Phillies manager blows 5-2 lead in 2 innings by using the same 2 pitchers who lost the game the night before to lose it again last night.
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Elmer Fudge is a line in the sand. Blew the midterms, is a porker. He would be Biden’s Beotch 2.0.
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Demented (hoaxers candidate) continues to trail.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4268075-trump-leads-biden-rfk-jr-survey/
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According to this report, PDJT wins by six points with RFK Jr. running, and by five points with RFK Jr. not running.
But bear in mind that all media and public polling is primarily propaganda. The polls that matter the public never sees.
Trump wins three-way race with Biden, RFK Jr.: poll
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/trump-wins-three-way-race-biden-rfk-jr-poll
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I went to bed thinking it couldn’t happen two games in a row 🙃
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Emmer wanted to get rid of the electoral college. He also refused to give funding to any candidates endorsed by Trump, so great was his hatred of him. In the meantime Trump has put out the word that he doesn’t endorse Emmer for speaker. Just the fact Emmer has had any prior affiliation with Soros is a scarlet red flag!
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Tom Cotton has said Biden’s asks for aid is thankfully DOA. He specified there will be no money going to pay for Ukrainian government official’s pensions, going over as Gaza aid, or processing and aiding more illegals to cross our border.
BTW, the treasury analysis of how the U.S. is financially doing: only $4.4 trillion came into the treasury (lower than expected), as the deficit grew to $1.7 trillion – would have been $2 trillion if they did not send $300 billion over on the 2024 tab. We are crazy broke as some here want more money printed to splash indiscriminately onto an overseas country. One more thing, Russia has put their super sonic missiles on high alert, able to hit our two aircraft carriers, that are already taking incoming. Then you have Hezbollah, considered one of the most sophisticated militias in the world, said to have 100,000-150,000 missiles on hand to launch……while we have sent a 7-year supply of missiles to fight a proxy war. I call that ill-prepared, stupid, almost having a death wish for our own country.
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Does Tom Cotton have any power to stop it? No
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Does Jan read the same military magazines that Gordon relied upon? You know – the ones that said Russia would not invade Ukraine.
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I am sorry some of Bunu’s trash made it through. He used at least 6 IP addresses and send the same posts dozens of times.
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Elmer Fudge is a Rino and former Soros spokesmouth
Hard pass,
https://nypost.com/2022/10/28/knives-out-in-house-gop-whip-race-as-midterms-near/
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I think the Congress is getting the message. You cannot fund grifters and recklessly spend without auditing or tracking what is going on.
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With Elmer Fudge, we are going to get more Ukrainian grifting and a porkulous bill to fund thr gubment.
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Hawley said the money is not going to the military.
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Sounds like dumb buck wants a job at cn and n or faux news.
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Obvious from the start and the warmongers lied about it.
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Tina wants Putin to win. There is no other possible outcome if the military aid stops but she does not care.
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I just approved some of Tina’s posts that were caught in the filter.
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Sounds good to most of us.
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Go Elmer Go
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If Dems were smart they’d wait for five or so votes for Emmer then all pile on the Emmer Train.
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Who is Gordon? I didn’t doubt Russia’s intentions to either intimidate or invade Ukraine. Why else would they have so much of their military line up on the border?
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Emmer is solidly conservative and will fight the democrats on everything so the Dems likely won’t support him. But he would at least support Ukraine.
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You’re not responding to people’s posts saying without an audit it’s not assured where the military aid is going.
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Emmer is a faux conservative which is why you think he is so great.
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He’s more conservative than Jordan. He’s just not a jackwad Trump supporter.
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I assume some DEMS are scared of being primaried if they’d vote for Emmer.
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@TeamTrump “ Don’t worry, Ron. The end is near and you can go back to your life full of pudding cups and stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tenders.”
This is just silly. Trump and his team are desperate for RDS to suspend his campaign. Trump has predicted this multiple times. It’s getting ridiculous. Chesebro taking a plea deal on lesser charges is a big deal. There will be more coming, not to mention probably dozens from his circle testifying as state witnesses between all the trials (NOT ROOTING). Wait until Rona Romney takes the stand.
It will take years to appeal anyway.
There is no way DeSantis is going to suspend his campaign with Trump in legal peril and his crowds growing on the campaign trail and the largest financial backing from his PAC and good 3Q numbers. Polls don’t matter in this environment and the GOP House debacle is just the beginning.
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Polly and hoaxer (2 trash drats) love Elmer Fudge.
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Testing 3 2 1, test out
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Hi Folks,
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Bitter, the filter does not seem to be able to stop Bunu from posting the same moronic post 5+ times on the same thread. It’s bad enough to have to scroll past his disgusting, anti-Semitic comments, but should we have to do it over abd over again because of his continuous spamming?
And hadn’t you fixed the Bunu problem by banning anonymous posts? He’s sonehow posting as Anonymous again.
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I also see that my post went in right away instead of having to undergo moderation for a few minutes before becoming visible. If this is how Bunu broke through, I have to say that I’d rather have a couple minutes’ delay in posting than having to scroll past five iterations of the same Bunu post.
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It is killing Russians. Works for me.
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Hello, Marv. Did any of your baseball tams make the playoffs?
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In his salad days, Donalds was convicted of drug distribution, and later of defrauding a bank. Couldn’t we have a Speaker who wouldn’t be called Dimebag Donalds?
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Why are there a dozen posts by anonymous that are identical to each other?
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BUNU
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Hi Bitter,
The Dodgers and the Marlins made it to the playoffs, but then the actual games started and they went 0-5.
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I like either Donalds or Hern for Speaker. Anyone else have a preference?
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WRONG, if that were true Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over 100 Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,0,,,/…,,.,..,.,.
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Hern is the #1 holder by percentile of defense stocks in the entire congress.
No one gains more by keeping the Ukraine money laundering op and the GAZA genocide going then Hern.,.
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I like Johnson from Louisiana.
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He is very qualified and well respected.
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Hern is the #1 holder by percentile of defense stocks in the entire congress.
No one gains more by keeping the Ukraine money laundering op and the GAZA genocide going then Hern.,,,,
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Hern is the #1 holder by percentile of defense stocks in the entire congress.
No one gains more by keeping the Ukraine money laundering op and the GAZA genocide going then Hern.,,,
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Hern is the #1 holder by percentile of defense stocks in the entire congress.
No one gains more by keeping the Ukraine money laundering op and the GAZA genocide going then Hern.,,
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Mx Blumenthal
@MxBlumenthal
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“Israeli officials are openly proclaiming their desire to emulate the fire bombing of Dresden, in which 35,000+ civilians were burned to death.
After the Associated Press reported anguish by US officials over the comparison, it quietly deleted the passage without explanation.”
see tweet/////////////
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Israel bombed several rep. Amash’s family today to get back at him for those pesky antiwar and anti-genocide votes
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WRONG, if that were true Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over 100 Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,0,,,/…,,.,.
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Mx Blumenthal
@MxBlumenthal
·1h
“Israeli officials are openly proclaiming their desire to emulate the fire bombing of Dresden, in which 35,000+ civilians were burned to death.
After the Associated Press reported anguish by US officials over the comparison, it quietly deleted the passage without explanation.”
see tweet/////////////
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Israel bombed several rep. Amash’s family today to get back at him for those pesky antiwar and anti-genocide votes
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WRONG, if that were true Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over 100 Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,0,,,/…,,.,.
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So, we like Hern then.
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WRONG, if that were true Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over 100 Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,30,,,/…,,.,.
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WRONG, if that were true Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over 100 Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,30,,,/…,,.,.
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WRONG, if that were true Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over 100 Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,30,,,/…,,.,.
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WRONG, if that were true Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over 100 Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,30,,,/…,,.,.
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WRONG, if that were true Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over 100 Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,30,,,/…,,.,.
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WRONG, if that were true Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over 100 Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,30,,,/…,,.,.
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WRONG, if that were true Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over 100 Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,30,,,/…,,.,.
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WRONG, if that were true Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over 100 Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,30,,,/…,,.,.
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WRONG, if that were true, Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over ON HUNDRED Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there…. is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,30,,,/…,,.,.
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WRONG, if that were true, Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over ON HUNDRED Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there…. is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,30,,,/…,,.,.
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WRONG, if that were true, Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over ON HUNDRED Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there…. is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,30,,,/…,,.,.
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WRONG, if that were true, Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over ON HUNDRED Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there…. is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,30,,,/…,,.,.
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WRONG, if that were true, Israeli settlers wouldn’t have killed over ON HUNDRED Palestinians in the West Bank just this week where there…. is no Hamas, paragliders, or music festival.,30,,,/…,,.,.
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Donalds is bad. Should NEVER be speaker. Hern is okay.
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No speaker at all is better than these people as speaker.
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Never mind, Hern votes against Ukraine. Both Hern and Donalds are disgusting shits.
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I think we need to have a discussion on what is a conservative sometime. Seriously. There are better options than Emmer for sure.
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Maybe, the deep state can donate money to the “witness.” https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/mike-pences-2024-window-rapidly-closing-newest-disclosure/
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Hi Marv.
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