Homework assignment- Say something positive and something negative about Trump and DeSantis. I will start-
Trump- He appointed conservative judges. He did not try to reach beyond his base.
DeSantis – He is a successful conservative Governor. He has not yet figured out how to respond to Trump’s personal attacks.
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Trump – he did what he promised he would do and the country was the most prosperous under his leadership
He refused to act like an adult instead of a petty child. He would be finishing his second term in a landslide and we’d have 55+ senators if he could
DeSantis – amazing gov if Florida. Even my ultra liberal Mom and her friends love him.
He doesn’t appear to have the backbone and strength of a Reagan despite the country desperately needing him to
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Good luck with the storm, SDC. Good luck to Tina if it makes it that far north.
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The site is running smoothly, bitter. Good job, man. Kudos to you. Added bonus is, of course, no Tgca. Outside of Paul following us over here the site has been great.
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Thanks, Phil. I am trying to figure out to number posts and make scrolling to the bottom of the thread easier.
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I echo the comments of others. The site is running very well. Should Bitter want some buy-in from the rest of us who use this nuthouse, I will absolutely donate to a GoFundMe account to help defray his costs.
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InteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
CBS News Poll: Trump Posts Biggest Lead Yet Over DeSantis
Trump — 62% (+46)
DeSantis — 16%
Ramaswamy — 7%
Pence — 5%
Scott — 3%
Haley — 2%
Christie — 2%
Hutchinson — 1%
Burgum — 1%
CBS Poll (B+) | 08/16-18 | 538 LV
– This shouldn’t shock anyone with functioning braincells, but the strategy of saying nice things about Trump is not working. Shockingly, Jason fraud was wrong yet again.
I hope the strategist class who failed the party in 2016 and once again failed the party in 2024 has a better plan in 2028 to stop Trump. They won’t, but we can always hope.
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From the looks of the CBS poll it appears that the Republican Thelma and Louise strategy is right on schedule.
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Trump- he limited the amount of Government regulations to grow the economy, but allowed Fauci and Birks a platform to destroy our civil rights and economy.
DeSantis- has been a ultra successful Governor in more ways than I can count, is highly intelligent but has a difficult time relating with the average GOP voter used to Trump.
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Count me in as well.
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Yep.
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Rona knows she is testifying. She did not like this question on faux electors.
https://x.com/maxtwain24/status/1693285868629332367?s=61&t=uLyKpWBwDwyCK292uUHCSA
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Yes Bitter. If any donations are needed, count me (VictrC) in!!
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Me too.
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ditto
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Shifted that electors support question to election poll workers and lawyers for 2024. She did say we need independent voters to win in 2024 and mentioned winning the Senate. So she’s not totally clueless.
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*90% of all funds donated to Bitterlaw will go towards DJT legal defense
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Andy McCarthy slams the Gang Banger. M
https://themessenger.com/opinion/the-flaw-in-trumps-georgia-indictment
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That is what’s so strange about DA Willis’s indictment. She alleges that the 19 people named in her indictment are guilty of conspiracy because they agreed to try to keep Donald Trump in power as president — specifically, to “change the outcome of the election in favor of Trump.” Maybe they shared such an aim, maybe their 19 minds met regarding that objective, but in and of itself, trying to reverse the result of an election is not a crime. You may have noticed that neither Al Gore nor Stacey Abrams was ever led away in handcuffs.
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RICO is unique in the criminal law because, instead of targeting crimes, it targets entities — associations of people, referred to as enterprises — that generate revenue through the commission of crimes. The offense is not so much the crimes (referred to as the pattern of racketeering activity), but the enterprise (such as a mafia family) that carries out the crimes. A RICO conspiracy is an agreement to participate in such an enterprise — to belong to the group and sustain the group so that it continues to generate power and profits.
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Then you add in standing. Trump is and was a federal employee. He has immunity ss well as presidential immunity.
Gang Banger and stoners charges are essentially similar. Disputing or challenging an election is not a crime, unless one lives in Krapistan, China, etc.
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Larry Schweikart
@LarrySchweikart
So are listless vessels deplorable?
Asking for a friend.
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Faux will do anything for $$$. Also, Brittle Bushie Baker will probably misquote trump.
Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
Fox News considers using clips of Trump in GOP Debate
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It’s a Navy term. For a ships direction… a verb not a noun.
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Bitter has turned into a teacher with homework – go figure!
DeSantis, (1) after a few initial missteps, developed workable protocols in handling COVID. (2) he hired an awesome surgeon general by the name of Joseph Ladepo.
Trump, (1) developed workable border policies, taunted by the border patrol, despite the lack of congressional cooperation. (2) cleaned up the VA by making access to medical services easier. (3) My personal favorite is his “right to try” bill, allowing patients, who signed a waiver, to try more experimental medications when they were terminal, in the hopes of getting a second chance at life. (4) did not start any wars, nor did Putin feel free to invade Ukraine. (5) kept China’s aggression at bay during his presidency because they “feared” what he might do. ….and, there is so much more that people here seem to have forgotten.
In the meantime, back to DeSantis’s unfortunate “listless vessels” reference, which will uncomfortably stick with him as Hillary’s “Deplorables” did.
https://floridapolitics.com/archives/629793-ron-desantis-rips-donald-trump-supporters-as-listless-vessels/
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And Rona has zero influence over Trump like a listless ship. No pledge no debate.
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Several admin officials indicate that Bondo Barr shut down any investigstion into the 2020 election. Bondo touted how vbm was a recipe for fraud in a Cn and N May of 2020 interview.
Bondo also falsely claimed that “they investigated 2020 and found no widespread fraud.” The House determined that no investigation occurred.
https://revolver.news/2023/08/update-former-trump-official-just-directly-linked-bill-barr-to-muskegon-michigan-voter-fraud-scandal/
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Kloster, Clark, and others confirm Bondo shutting down any investigstions. No nothing was even looked at.
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Junk charges. Everyone knows it. No standing, pra, federal employee immunity, and and presidential immunity.
Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley
A review of the legal proceedings ahead is a buzz kill for the lock–him–up crowd. Despite the proliferation of charges against Trump, there is nothing that guarantees that he will be sent to the big house instead of the White House, if elected.
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And we know stoner will try to again indict about j6, since the gang banger stepped all over his sheot show, However, that is problematic. Trump gave a tweet to stop violence, actually several tweets.
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Donald J. Trump
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How nice, a really beautiful reunion! Three people that I indisputably got Elected, two Governors and a V.P., Brian Kemp of Georgia, Mike Pence of Indiana, & Ron DeSanctimonious of Florida, just met, most likely to talk about the “weather,” or perhaps to discuss how they can stop the Weaponization of Georgia Law, working with the DOJ and others, against their absolutely, all time favorite President, ME. All three have been just wonderful, so loyal and nice. It’s great to have friends like this!
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To expand on the question above, lets say that Trump does win the nomination and loses, what are the chances his ego won’t let it go and runs again in 2028, provided he’s still alive… I say don’t count that out. This is all about vengence and being in the spotlight.
Also…another very possible scenario. Let’s say he somehow loses the nomination, or the GOP denies him the nomination because of his legal troubles. We all know he will run third party…but what is some moderate Dem also runs third party…say the esteemed Senator Manchin from WV
Who wins the election then? Anyone? Will it get thrown to the House, and if so, with the current make up of the House 26R 22D and 2 ties (which would probably go R way), A republican should win the election BUT…how many of those R would vote for the GOP nominee? how many For Trump? The D delegation – How many for slippin Joe Biden, how many for Manchin
2024 could end up being very interesting
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It’s a YouGuv poll so it is an online poll, but its number are mostly consistent with other polling.
I really do believe the party has decided winning isn’t as important as making a point. It’s basically become the Democrat party of the 1970’s and early 1980’s.
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Trump’s running again in 2028. I’ve been saying that for the last year. The grievance and grift will be too enticing to him. He’ll still be appealing whatever charges on which he’s convicted and he’ll need to run to raise money to pay for his legal costs. And should he get convicted, he will conclude running prevents him from being imprisoned.
After he loses in 2024, Trump will say the race was stolen, his minions and FoxNews will echo his lies, and his moron voters will still believe them. Just as they did after 2020, Trump’s voters will stick with him and propel him to large primary poll leads all throughout 2025 and 2026.
Several quality Republicans will decide to run in 2028 (maybe Youngkin, Kemp, Reynolds), but the same strategist class that told candidates not to attack Trump will tell them that again in 2028. So once again, Trump will rain down fury on his opponents while his opponents believe Trump will eventually collapse and they’ll be well positoned to pick up his voters.
It’s a sad state of affairs, but I do think Republicans will finally nominate someone other than a Trump in 2032, if the party still exists in a credible national form.
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If Trump isn’t the nominee in 2024, he will NOT run as a third-party candidate. It would take loads of work and money to get on the ballot in all 50 states and Trump’s lazy butt would never do that.
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Daniel Di Martino 🇺🇸🇻🇪
@DanielDiMartino
Kari Lake claims the CIA assassinated JFK and “the military industrial complex” was behind the attempt on Reagan….
She also says “January 6th was a staged riot”
I’m really wondering if she believes what she says or she has no ethical compass.
– Arizona Republicans who voted for this woman last year in the primary and vote for her next year for Senate should never be allowed to vote again.
I can’t wait for Jason fraud to defend this. I know he has it in him to do so.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/ouch-fox-news-piles-ron-desantis-after-his/
Interesting perspective and instant take from the news media on the DeSantis “listless vessels” comment. One person said the phrase would appear on t-shits at Trump rallies. Another offered that this was an “unforced error” by DeSantis, in that he didn’t mean for it to come out and be interpreted like it was, and that RDS is simply not good at the game of politics. I think it will be difficult for him to have a “clean up in aisle 6” moment with many in the populous movement.
As for JeffP coming out and flaming gatewaypundit, for writing this piece and showing the clip from FOX, it’s informative and helpful to be aware of what your opposite is parlaying so you can sensibly counter it.
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You forgot to name a negative for Trump…😂😂😂
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In CBS poll…
Among Trump voters — Trump is trusted above family, friends, and above religious leaders.
Can you say unhealthy people?
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No doubt it is harmful to him. He was doing a lot better. I know his campaign/Twitter groupies were not helping him.
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The true meaning of RDS using listless vessel.
It’s a navel term a VERB nothing like how HRC used deplorables as a NOUN. He was referring to the direction of the party in particular congressman.
DeSantis was 100% right with the listless vessel comment. There are two factions in the GOP right now – the Conservatives and the Populists. RDS and his allies are generally conservatives and Trump and his allies are generally populists.
The Conservative wing of the GOP is firmly anchored in conservative principles and the Trump populists follow Trump’s direction at any particular time, they often do not adhere to traditional conservative principals. Some things Trump does and proposes are typically associated with the Left, some with the Right. Trump will shift on a dime, fluctuating Left to Right, with no regard for conservative principles, and his allies move along with him when he does. The Trump populists don’t have the guardrails that a set of principles gives to conservatives.
DeSantis’ ‘listless vessels’ comment about the Trump wing of the GOP not being anchored in conservative principles and instead somewhat adrift, wherever Trump decides to go at any given time, was spot on accurate. And he’s right that it’s not sustainable, because you can’t be a party of one man that bounces all over the place, at his behest you have to be a party of principles. You can’t wake up every morning, look at Truth Social, and be told what your guiding beliefs are going to be on that given day.
His comment might have offended and angered some people, but it’s objectively and verifiably true to anyone paying attention.
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Right on time for your daily lie about RDS using MSM, Trump and Woke Commie Dem talking points.
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I will confess… I used to believe Gateway Pundit a few years ago. Now it’s just grift. You will wake up some day.
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It was 70% of Trump voters!
That is exactly the same dynamic of how the poor people I have deprogrammed from cults and abuse trusted their cult leaders over family, friends and church.
That number is stunning and sad at the same time. It really upsets me.
I don’t trust any politician…not even RDS.
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Regarding Kemp, Pence and RDS meeting. As well as Sununu and his comments. I guarantee talks are under way regarding defeating Trump from winning the nomination. It probably won’t work.
I predicted MONTHS ago indictments were coming to take out Trump. Phil I think predicted the same. Repeating 2020 & 2022 isn’t an option for a large portion of the GOP. So we have Thelma & Louise.
Trump diehards are committed to political suicide and don’t care about winning the Senate, keeping the House or Governorships in 2024. That is unacceptable. Hell Trump won’t even pledge support or debate.
It is going to be one hell of ride.
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C- Jan listed multiple positives for Trump BUT no negatives.
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What grade you giving? 🙂
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I believe there is a psychological game played where you make the masses questioning all facts and all reality to the point where they only rely on some specific authoritarian figure to tell them them the “real” truth. I think charismatic figures from both parties have done such tricks.
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GOP Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana is now the first United States Senator to call for Trump to drop out of the race for president.
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Well, I figured it would be either Cassidy or Romney. Cassidy was believed to badly want to resign from the Senate and run for governor of Louisiana. He never had a prayer winning the Republican Party nomination for governor after his impeachment vote and certainly not after this. BTW, Cassidy is a former Democrat just like the other Louisiana senator John Kennedy. The difference is that Kennedy didn’t just change parties just out of convenience. Unlike, Cassidy Kennedy is actually a conservative.
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Interesting interview Kim Reynolds today. A lot here to unpack. She isn’t endorsing Trump that I know.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/reynolds-voters-not-giving-trump-a-pass-for-skipping-events-need-fewer-candidates-could-endorse
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Andy McCarthy
@AndrewCMcCarthy
Very simple: Trump can’t win. 65% already against him. That’s before Dems launch barrage after getting him nominated. If we finally grasp that, his support will collapse. If not, we lose everything, and Dems use majorities to remake Supreme Court. Nominate him if you want, but that’s reality.
– Everything Andy McCarthy says is true. Nominating Trump means an expanded Supreme Court, national abortion on demand, and national gun regulations.
The problem is the Trump cultists like Tinfoil and Jan don’t care about that. They care about Trump and only Trump. And if they believe losing with Trump is better than winning with someone else.
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Cassidey and Romney were both correct to vote for conviction. It’s a shame more Republicans didn’t. Trump should have been barred from ever holding office again after what he caused to happen. And Cassidey is 100% correct. Scumbag Trump should absolutely drop out of the race.
I know you believe Trump is a loser in 2024, but the party should not become little more than a legal defense fund piggy bank for a man who claims to be a billionaire. And calling on a four-time indicted fool like Trump to quit the race is merely sane and rational thought. It’s what a normally functioning party would do. But conman Donnie has transformed the party into a cult.
If Obama had lost to Romney in 2012 and then proceeded claim the election was stolen and incited a riot that stormed the capitol, you would have 100% demanded Republicans impeach, convict, and bar Obama from ever holding office again. So why the special treatment for Trump?
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Binge drinking, marijuana use reach record highs in adults…
Add this to the list of firsts under the Biden administration (posted a few days ago)
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The Uniparty looks to stop Trump
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/unipartys-plan-save-our-democracy-unfolds
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San Diego finally got hit by the tropical storm. Torrential rain tonight. There will be some serious flooding.
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Zelenskyy was asked if he’d be willing to exchange territory for NATO membership and peace. He said, “Sure. How about the territory of Belgorod.” Belgorod is in Russia.
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I don’t have to worry. By the time the Indiana primary rolls around it will be decided.
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Trump apparently is now saying he will not participate in ANY debates.
Rona has lost total control and Trump and his supporters don’t care about winning the Senate, House, Governorships, etc…in 2024.
He is basically running as an independent now.
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Cassidey and Romney were both correct to vote for conviction.”
The ends justify the means.
Amoral Scumbag knows the impeachment articles against Trump were total garbage, but he has the moral compass of a floating turd. Romney and Cassidy know that too, but it gets them on CNN.
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“Donald Trump holds a commanding lead over the rest of the 2024 Republican presidential field in Iowa — and a more than 2-to-1 lead over his closest rival, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis — with about five months to Caucus Day, a new Des Moines Register/NBC News/Mediacom Iowa Poll shows.
The poll of Iowa’s likely Republican caucusgoers comes as the former president grapples with the fallout of a fourth criminal indictment and a pack of other top contenders prepares to gather for a high-stakes GOP presidential debate in Milwaukee on Wednesday.
Among those likely caucusgoers, 42% say they plan to support Trump — a lead of 23 percentage points over DeSantis, who is at 19%. U.S. Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina follows in third place with 9%.
Former United Nations Ambassador Nikki Haley and former Vice President Mike Pence tie at 6%, former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is at 5% and entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy follows with 4%.
The poll finds many indicators of Trump’s strength, but the race is not settled and may be “closer than it may first seem,” said J. Ann Selzer, president of Selzer & Co., the firm that conducted the poll.
More: See where presidential candidates are campaigning in Iowa
Sixty-three percent of likely GOP caucusgoers say they support Trump as their first or second choice in the caucuses or are actively considering him. That footprint is on par with the 61% who say the same for DeSantis.
Plenty could shift by Caucus Day on Jan. 15.
A majority, or 52%, of likely GOP caucusgoers have a first choice for president and say they could still be persuaded to support a different candidate, while 40% say their minds are made up. Seven percent do not have a first-choice candidate.”
Let’s hope Selzer is right and “it’s closer than it seems”.
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My order of preference if I was in IA
Golden Calf
Scott
Trump
Pence
Would not vote for any of these for dogcatcher let alone President
Christie
Haley
Vivek
Vivek just proposed cutting off aid to Israel after 2028. In the GOP I used to belong to, he would be laughed off the stage, those comments were reserved for kooky morons like Ron Paul. But now it is accepted you can even support KGB thugs like Putin. Yet some here deny the GOP has become a protectionist, isolationist and populist party.
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and his supporters don’t care about winning the Senate, House, Governorships, etc…in 2024. ”
Garbage.
They want to win. Just that they want to win with candidates that reflect their views.
The TDS morons have yet to present a cogent argument on how attacking Trump supporters helps ANY R win the nomination for the GE.
One of you TDS moron geniuses care to give it a shot?
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Plus he hands over Taiwan to China after 2028 or as soon as we can make our own semiconductors. Because, why else would we want to protect Taiwan.
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Lawfare continues, while our side is listless.
Nuissance to ask ca assembly to remove trumps name off of the ballot for future presidential elections (faux news).
The fake incidtments did not work.
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How dee bf.
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Cassidy and Romney will either no longer run for senate, or be primaried. Both deserve it,
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The Dm pole suggests that Scott will make a run for #2. Rds could fal to 3rd or 4th in Iowa.
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Scott will unload a massive ad by in the state very soon.
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“ Among those likely caucusgoers, 42% say they plan to support Trump — a lead of 23 percentage points over DeSantis, who is at 19%. U.S. Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina follows in third place with 9%.”
This is excellent for RDS as the race really begins.
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To quote Kim Reynolds yesterday…”there are already too many candidates in this race”. RDS just needs to be close in early states.
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Maui seems even worse. 1,000 missing (per officials.). No help from the gubment.
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I agree that people should want candidates who support their views to win. Sometimes those candidates will not win the GE. Once the nomination is decided, they should vote for the nominee over the Dem because the Dem does not reflect their views AND will work against their views.
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Judge cannon still is catching things with stoner. Stoner admitted to srill using a Gj in Dc. Tried to get counsel tossed. I believe this is the counsel who had a judgeship thst stoner and his gang tried to bribe and coerce.
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Scott could win the general if he pivots on abortion a bit after getting the nomination.
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For some Republicans, the Dems views would be more in line with theirs.
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Kurt Schlichter has some ideas on how the Golden Calf deals with each adversary.
Some are good…I graded each one
Fat F–k Christie A
“Chris, your own state knew you best and when you finally left under a cloud of scandal you were polling on par with chlamydia. All you have is complaints about more successful Republicans, but I noticed that you don’t seem to have a problem with Biden. Just sign your MSNBC contract and get out of the way of those of us who know how to win.”
Nikki “you need to feel my pain” Haley C
“Nikki, I’ve been to war and if the voters choose me they will know with absolute certainty that their sons and daughters will never die in another useless one, and that I will use every bit of my power as president to fight back against big corporations that want to impose their San Francisco values on normal families.”
Tim Scott B
“Tim, I first had my doubts about you when you supported the Democrat defund the police movement, but I really lost respect for you when you decided to repeat what you knew were Democrat and regime media lies about Florida history standards. Our voters do not need a candidate who joins with Kamala Harris to tell the lie that Republicans like slavery.”
Mike Pence B+
“Mike, the time of the soft Republican is over. You should retire, teach Sunday school, and build birdhouses.”
Vivek A+
“Vivek, you’re a smart guy with no experience but a bright future once you learn how the world works. Go do a hitch in the Marines, kid, then maybe at least win a city council election and get a little salty before you try for the White House. America does not need a president who never watched ‘The Brady Bunch” after school on a UHF station or made a call on a rotary phone.”
Burgum B
“Doug, I turned a purple state deep red. You kept a deep red state deep red. That’s fine, I guess, but the last time we nominated a soft rich guy he got punked live on TV by Candy Crowley.”
Ted a soft rich guy he got punked live on TV by Candy Crowley.”
Donald Trump A-
“Maybe it’s not right or fair or rational, but about 53% of Americans will never vote for Trump. That’s the reality. If we put him on the ticket, we lose. You’re not making a statement by nominating a certain loser. You’re making the Democrats’ day. They are begging you to nominate Donald Trump. Ask yourself why. If you do, say good-bye to the Supreme Court. To your right to keep and bear arms. To free speech. To the right to practice your faith as you see fit. Say hello to more trans tyranny. To more climate hoax insanity that will have you losing your gas-powered car and eating bugs. To more wars. To more taxes. To more crime, and to more chaos. If you want to send a message to Washington, win. Winning is the message. And I have never lost a race and never will.”
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Damm, I asked the TDS morons a question and Bitter answered for them?
Sorry, no stand ins…. I want to hear it from the mouth of the morons themselves.
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I don’t think Scott will take off. I think he is vying for VP.
And I think his criticism of the Florida curriculum was stupid.
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The Dem is always worse. Never vote for the Dem.
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It was valid criticism.
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https://donsurber.substack.com/p/listless-vessels-to-desantis-bite?publication_id=1115457&utm_medium=email&action=share&isFreemail=true
Either the Dems are following JeffP, or he is following the dem talking points,because both are using the same jabs at Trump supporters, calling them members of a “cult.”
Republican Rep. Nancy Mace reported, “I don’t know why anyone running for president would put down half of the electorate and identify them, call them listless vessels because they support the former president. And you’re right, he and I don’t always see eye to eye but I call it like I see it. Why Ron DeSantis would do that while his numbers are tanking is really beyond me.”
That’s why his numbers are tanking.
Republicans cannot win without Trump supporters who were 75 million strong in 2020, up from 62 million in 2016. The strategy of attacking anyone who dares to support President Trump is stupidity squared. I offer Christie and Pence as proof. DeSantis saying he meant only congressmen is the same old political spin that we have heard all our lives because what makes a congressional supporter any different from a retiree supporting him in West Virginia?
As for Trump’s supporters being listless, we have a list all right. I can assure Desperate DeSantis that he is on that list, right after Hillary and Bill Barr.)
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Just like in 2016, when I said I would vote for Trump because it was a binary choice, and he was the R nominee – I will vote again in 2024 for the R nominee, whoever that is. However, if you remember, I was roasted in 2016 for taking that stance.
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Mace was not a trump supporter. I believe trump did not even endorse her the last time.
Definitely, he stepped into it. Tried to be too cute.
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/biden-admin-quietly-auctioning-off-parts-of-trumps-border-wall-5476961
Supposedly nearly $300 million of materials, ready to erect border barriers, is being quietly, but hastily, sold for pennies on the dollar – some say for $2 million. This is happening when the “Finish It Act” is making its way through Congress -a bill that would allow funding for finishing the wall.
Sigh………..
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Some really good news unless you are a Putin lapdog toadie
“The Netherlands and Denmark will give F-16s to Ukraine, said the Dutch Prime minister in the first public pledge of fighter jets from Western leaders.”
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Trump endorsed her opponent.
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I give the Golden Calf a clean pass on the “listless vessel” comment.
It is being completely distorted and those distorting should be ashamed of themselves.
But that is politics. Trump whined about being misquoted for years on the “both sides have good people” and he was right too.
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I see the Russian lunar lander crashed into the moon. Seems the Russian space program is about as big a threat as the rest of the Russian military….or what’s left of it.
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Trump Senate swing state candidates did just wonderfully in 2022. What a disaster 😂
The house was won in spite of him.
When you are degrading conservative GOP Governors on a daily basis and his cult members follow his lead it’s not a sign you’re a supportive candidate for President.
I don’t have time now to respond more fully and may not.
I know you’re still in denial but Trump is TOXIC for many reasons in most state races and congressional districts for 2024.
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Your daily lie. Mace knows it’s a lie too. It’s not what he meant. She knows it because it applied to her.
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Mace is a faux conservative.
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Erick Erickson
@EWErickson
I dunno guys. Being only at 42% in Iowa with 100% name recognition doesn’t seem as strong to me as some of you are making it out to be. If consolidation of the field starts happening, things could shift. I guess that explains the constant attacks on DeSantis instead of Biden.
– I think I mostly agree with this. Trump has a high floor, but I also think he has a hard ceiling. The job of those running against Trump (if that’s what they’re really doing) is to get Trump as close to his floor as possible. Despite what Jason fraud thinks, that means identifying and exposing Trump’s many weaknesses as a candidate.
Despite the attempts to make Tim Scott happen, I think Desantis is the only person in the race who has a chance to compete with Trump. He’s the only one who has consistently polled in double digits. But I also think DeSantis needs to realize the “gettable” votes are not to Trump’s right. They’re left of both him and Trump. Haley, Pence, and Scott have about 15% combined in the Selzer Iowa poll. Those aren’t MAGA voters. In fact, they’re probably the opposite.
The one area where I somewhat disagree with Erickson is why Trump continues to attack DeSantis. I think he does it because Trump likes to attack and wants to drive DeSantis’ numbers as low as possible as a warning to others.
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JeffP – the substack by Surber and the comment by Nancy Mace are their “opinions.” Why you should continuously slime someone’s opinion is counterproductive, and very unusual for a therapist whose job is to listen, understand and offer guidance to people.
BTW, what people say often is not what they meant. However, how it is heard by others can be very damaging. Trump has said a multitude of things that not only were misinterpreted, but also modified or taken out of context to create the desired narrative. His Charlottesville comments, for instance, were totally manipulated to sound like he supported white supremacy. His J6 speech had phrases omitted asking people to walk “peacefully & patriotically” to the Capitol building. When he responded to the riot evolving from the protest, trying to calm people down and go home, the press literally took it off the air. I think these were far more egregious than accurately quoting RDS’s interview statements, and then whining that people are lying when they were taken negatively because his comments were poorly thought out and stated.
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Erickson is wrong, in that Trump’s main focus has been comparing his Presidency to Biden’s failed presidency. He slips in a swipe or two at DeSantis, but it doesn’t dominate his speeches.
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Yoni Appelbaum
@YAppelbaum
Vivek Ramaswamy: “I think it is legitimate to say how many police, how many federal agents, were on the planes that hit the Twin Towers. Maybe the answer is zero. It probably is zero for all I know, right?”
– Ramascammy is just asking questions. Now, I understand why Trumpers love Vivek so much. he’s a fellow conspiracy theorist.
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I agree. He meant to say that Trump voters are rudderless empty ships that will follow Trump without any moral conviction of their own.
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Did George Bush orchestrate 9-11. Maybe the answer is no. It probably is no… for all I know, right?
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Mediaite
@Mediaite
Vivek Ramaswamy Told Allies He’s Running to Sabotage Ron DeSantis: Report
– Now, I really understand why the Trumpers love Ramascammy so much.
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Mediaite
@Mediaite
‘GIANT MURDER WAVE!’ Trump Takes Attacks on Georgia Governor Brian Kemp to an Absurd New Level
– In a poll released last week, Georgia voters gave Brian kemp a 58% approval rating, including 40% from African Americans.
Meanwhile, conman Donnie Trump lost the state of Georgia to Biden. (Yes, Jason fraud. Trump lost Georgia.)
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No, Trump would have easily won GA unless you really believe there weren’t 12k fraudulent votes in GA. That is the reason GA changed its election laws in order to try to keep it from happening again. It was just too easy to commit fraud with all the loose VBM, EV and drop boxes and restrictions on witnessing the count.
Of course someone with the moral compass of a floating turd might believe there was no fraud.
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Maybe Vivek wil out-Trump Trump and take away some of his votes.
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Absolutely horrible… .we will never regain power for the country club Rs and brokered conventions if people like this are allowed into the party.
‘A Democrat county official in Texas made a big announcement Saturday. Kleberg County Attorney Kira Talip Sanchez confirmed a party switch. She switched from the Democrat Party to the Republican Party”
Truly disgusting that minorities and working class people are even allowed to vote, let alone join the party.
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I have changed Jan’s grade to D-. She still has not posted anything negative about Trump.
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Well you know 70% of Trump voters trust him more than their family, friends and church leaders.
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I was waiting for the IA DR Selzer poll. Just as I expected it’s much closer.
“Sixty-three percent of likely GOP caucusgoers say they support Trump as their first or second choice in the caucuses or are actively considering him. That footprint is on par with the 61% who say the same for DeSantis.”
Trump is at his ceiling at 43% and it’s a soft 43%. RDS definitely had an open door.
Kim Reynolds said yesterday she wasn’t ruling out endorsing someone eventually. I think we know who that might be.
This tracks close to the UNH poll in July. RDS is not even close to being done. That’s all just MSM, Trump and Uniparty narrative.
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I second Wobbles.
Tiny Tent Party or death!
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Which I find terribly sad.
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That poll is great news for RDS. Very similar to the UNH poll in July. Trumps support is soft and race is just beginning on Wednesday night.
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In a poll released last week, Georgia voters gave Brian kemp a 58% approval rating”
Not even close to Saddam Hussein who was at 99%, probably using the same polling company. It was actually 100% if you take into account that 1% were killed soon after the election.
The good news for spineless turd Kemp is that he has room to grow.
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As you look deeper into the Selzer poll results…Trumps inevitable nomination is completely premature.
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BREAKING NEWS: FOX News reports Ca. Gov. Gavin Newsom is the first Governor to say Donald Trump is not eligible for future presidential elections & has asked the California’s State Assembly to pass a bill that will remove Trumps name on any future ballots.
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The Trump narrative that the more people get to know RDS the less liked he is….not true. RDS had the highest favorable of any candidate in DR Selzer IA poll.
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RDS crushed the minority vote in FL.
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I told you so.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4065002-mccarthy-expunge-trump-impeachments/
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I posted that earlier today; however, this just proves that the fake indictments have failed. This will also fail.
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@JesseKellyDC
I’m preemptively sad for some of the people on the Right who don’t quite realize how sad and shocking 2024 is gonna be for them.
They seem so innocent and naive. Like a child walking up to a lion in the wild so he can pet him.
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Would also likely be a 9-0 ruling or 8-1 in the sc.
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Sotohatewhiteymor and dumb dumb kuntah may be 2.
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Compared to other leftists on the court, the iq le level dropped a lot with Soto and then a great deal more with Kuntsh.
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Lawfare in its most obvious construct is not a legal approach per se’, it is the intentional manipulation of the legal system to create the optics around information that is intended to be used by media to influence public opinion.
Above is one of the best definitions of “lawfare” I’ve read.
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/08/21/the-most-ridiculous-lawfare-narrative-pushed-by-special-counsel-jack-smith-portends-the-weakness-of-the-mar-a-lago-case/
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Presidential elections are governed by Federal law. A state does not have the power to interfere.
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Everyone can see trumps tweet declassifying all and everything with no redactions related to the Russian hoax.
The president has that authority. There is no formal written requirement or steps that he has to follow.
It’s time trumps legal team submits to the court concern about the “leaks” and have the court investigate the source of the leaks (stoner).
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This is what I am seeing too…the establishment, Trump and MSM all on the same side to destroy the true conservative that rules like a bitch.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/establishment-trump-to-be-nominee-desantis-to-lose
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I think Rds destroyed himself. The hiring of the Twitter idiots last year were the start. I posted this at the old site back in Novemeber. I saw no way for him to white wash his Covid record (despite their efforts). Polling has picked up Rs abandoning him if/when he mentions “trumps lockdowns.”
(Both made mistakes with Covid).
I hate seeing this. Ultimately, it’s on the candidate.
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I wish I still had your confidence in justice system in this country. After the Russia Hoaxers didn’t get charged and jailed. I lost all hope…and know without a significant house cleaning nothing will change.
Hence why I support RDS…he has the balls to do it. I can’t even pay much attention regarding the Biden corruption because I have zero hope any true justice will be enacted.
It’s an interesting Constitutional issue for sure. Something to ask my daughter and future son in law about.
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Trumps mistakes with Covid we’re giving it to Depends to run this. His task force was sheot due to frsudci and scarf lady, who admitted to hiding things.
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https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/trump_maintains_strong_gop_primary_lead
Caveat: pac?
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Yes I agree. The reasoning these Woke Commie States are going to try it is based on the 14th amendment. I highly doubt SCOTUS a would allow it based on January 6th charges.
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The poll results from Iowa today and last months UNH poll show it’s not even close to be over. These are the most accurate polls and nothing has been close to baked in. It’s a two man race. Don’t buy into the false narrative the MSM, Trump and Uniparty types are pushing.
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This poor man. On a prior thread mentioned his comments would get him in trouble. Now he has disappeared:
“HOW TO “GO MISSING” IN RUSSIA 🇷🇺
“the presidential elections in Russia are not real democracy, and Putin will win.”
– Dmitry Peskov, Putin’s Press Secretary
Following his statements, three weeks ago, about the 🇷🇺 elections, Peskov has not been seen or heard from.”
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Vivek has said some stupid stuff lately. He’s much more hype than substance. Very disappointed in him. But I also didn’t know he ran a drug scam to make millions.
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What was the original grade, Bitter? I wasn’t aware I was to post negative Trump comments. I’ll do better than that and post ones for both Trump and RDS:
Trump: too self congratulatory, should not criticize people in his own party, should refute the vaccine & acknowledge the harms it caused; did not hire good people around him during his first term.
DeSantis: too many ties to China via his donor’s business interests; he seems a puppet of his handlers; personality is uninteresting, even boring; seemed dishonest about disclosing, early on, he was running for the presidency, his travel expenses, changing Fl rules so he didn’t have to give up his governorship.
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Watching you become a full-fledged conspiracy theorist in order to support Trump really does make me smile.
How long before you claim Kemp used the same voting machines used in Ohio in 2004 that Democrats say allowed Karl Rove to change votes from Kerry to Bush.
God, you’re an idiot.
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Yeah, they’re trying so hard to get Trump elected that they”re working overtime to indict him, his allies, pull him off of state ballots, use his campaign funds for legal fees, have 24/7 negative and oftentimes bogus media coverage….all because they want to deter DeSantis! That’s a crazy-making analysis!
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From a D- student.
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It’s not analysis the facts are presented in the article. Trumps record and relationships shows he is establishment. What your talking about is the Woke Commie Dems and MSM using Trump as controlled opposition. If they can take out both without RDS running against Biden or Newsom it’s a major win for them. Using Trump to help take out RDS is a bonus.
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He wants to disenfranchise my handicapped son. That makes me hate him with a fierce rage.
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Also he is in the race to take out RDS…yes it has looked that way. He is friends with Kushner.
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I do find it ironic how blind Trump loyalists are to his selling out to the establishment during his administration.
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Maybe Pence still has a shot.
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Democrats appear to want Trump to be the “easy” nominee. I am fearful that they might get Trump elected in the general.
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Wow this is for Jan…
https://x.com/powerown45/status/1693613126808400308?s=61&t=uLyKpWBwDwyCK292uUHCSA
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Sort of a trial balloon to see what SCOTUS will do.
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I think Raheem wants to delete that one.
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Pence voters are ultra conservative and will trend toward RDS.
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My rank choice voting now is:
1. RDS 😂
2. Burgum
3. Scott
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Burgum…another big states rights guy.
“It’s amazing — we’ve spent 50 years of the pro-life movement fighting to have Roe v. Wade overturned so that the decision could return to the states, and about 24 hours later, the same people say, ‘No, now it’s been turned over to the states, now we’ve got to have the feds back involved again.’”
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DeSantis’s performance in the upcoming debates is critical to the duration of his candidacy. According to the Emerson poll this last Saturday, RDS is tied with Vivek each having 10%, with people leaving RDS and going over to Vivek.
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Des Moines Register/ Selzer poll is the gold standard and only one that matters in IA. It’s the one I have been waiting for. Trumps ceiling is 42% 5 months out and it’s a very soft 42%. It’s a two man race.
RDS will crush the debates he can go three layers deep on any topic. Most people don’t really know him yet. His ceiling is high.
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Store owner, mother of 9, fatally shot over a Pride flag displayed in her shop. https://www.entrepreneur.com/business-news/store-owner-laura-ann-carleton-fatally-shot-over-pride-flag/457787
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More on box doc leak.
Just because Meadows did not know means sheot. Maybe meadows answered he did not know what happened before he got there. He was added late to the admin.
Kash Patel an admin official has stated publicly there was a standing EO that declassified all documents from the WH to his residences in Mara Lago and Bedminster.
Good luck with unjustice proving that the documents were not classified or trump coils not have a copy of them.
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Nolte: DeSantis and former Vice President Mike Pence are actually running for president but have so far run terrible campaigns. That could change, but for now, neither has been anything close to impressive and are no threat to the former president.
Businessman Vivek Ramaswamy, Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC), and former South Carolina Republican Governor Nikki Haley are not running for president. Instead, they are running to be Trump’s vice president or part of his cabinet. That’s fine.
As far as former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (RINO), he’s running to hear his own voice and see himself on TV.
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Christie is bound to find himself on tee vee.
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Jan can still raise her grade if she can find anything negative about Trump.
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Scroll up. I responded to your earlier comment with negatives about both Trump & DeSantis.
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I disagree with Bitterlaw. Biden is much better than most of these GOP candidates. I will be proudly voting for the demented dictator since he doesn’t suck as much as the alternatives.
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Net Favorability in two key early state polls.
July UNH
RDS +32
DJT +23
August DR Selzer/NBC
RDS +36
DJT +32
The national polls that have DJT with a higher net Favorability than RDS are BS. Throw them out.
The narrative that it’s not a two man race or RDS is done are nothing but propaganda. No wonder why Trump keeps attacking RDS and begs for him to drop out.
At this point Tim Scott is the overall number 3.
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Shipwreckedcrew
@shipwreckedcrew
I’ve read SCO Smith’s response to the Trump team’s proposed trial schedule.
The response is idiotic.
It relies upon the fact that a significant portion of the discovery materials were available to Trump because they came from Trump, Trump, Inc., etc.
That’s not what “effective representation” involves.
It is irrelevant that the defendant himself knew of the discovery — the question is what time does Counsel need and there is no suggestion that Trump’s counsel knew of or had access to this information in discovery.
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Stoner must have mixed drugs and alcohol with that “response.”
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https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/08/mark_meadowss_irrelevant_memories_about_whether_trump_declassified_documents.html
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In short, marks “memory” is not relevant. Mark, other federal employee, or the Russian hoaxer in the gubment (Bureaucrat) memory is also not relevant. President has the sole authority to declassify. Anything taken out of the wh, trump determined that it was declassified.
The box doc case will be tossed.
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And I don’t even trust the leak from abc news about meadows. It says he did not discuss it “before trump left the wh.” What does that even mean?
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Shipwreckedcrew
@shipwreckedcrew
No. They will all come to federal court or none will come to federal court. It is a question of jurisdiction over the case, not jurisdiction over particular defendants.
There are multiple defendants who will likely assert immunity from state prosecution under a variety of theories, and they are all likely to win.
But even if they do not win in the district court, that is an appealable order to the 11th Circuit.
That will be a very “friendly” Court for the defendants.
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Can anyone confirm this. Gangbangers case has been moved to federal court. (Schweikart citing Barnes law.)
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The national polls that have DJT with a higher net Favorability than RDS are BS. Throw them out. ”
I agree with this. My policy, here from 30,000 ft is to throw out any poll I disagree with strongly and skew the ones I disagree with slightly.
– Poul Harris
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This is a lie.
Biden Tells Maui Fire Victims: “We have a little sense, Jill and I, what it’s like to lose a home. […] I almost lost my wife, my ’67 corvette and my cat.”
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Homework assignment- Say something positive and something negative about Trump and DeSantis. I will start-
Trump- Has good looking wife. Likes fast food
DeSantis – Beat a communist drug addict. Almost lost to a communist drug addict.
Man that was a lot of work, I haven’t done homework since the one room schoolhouse on the Altiplano.
I am on my third Martini trying to recover from the stress.
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He didn’t say he lost his son Beau to the Great Chicago Fire?
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Good about Trump:
Prevented Hillary from gaining the white house.
Made some good SCOTUS appointments.
Bad about Trump:
He is an idiot.
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Good about Desantis:
He is good at explaining his conservative views.
Bad about Desantis:
He has been unable to become the frontrunner for the GOP nomination.
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Something good about Trump: At least he’s not as bad as Hitler
Something good about DeSantis: At least he’s not Trump
Something good about Biden: At least he’s not Trump either
Something good about America: Normal people want somebody other than those three to be President
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“@fredbauerblog
Trump often seems to prefer a GOP that loses but is dominated by him to a GOP that wins but has a variety of voices. His feud with popular Republican governors makes sense from that perspective.”
In this election the choice will be to vote for the least awful candidate.
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“Citizens of California are holding out hope that flooding from Hurricane Hilary will wash off the massive amounts of poop clinging to the state’s sidewalks.”
Actually the rains were beneficial in that regard.
San Diego now power washes sidewalks Downtown. An ordinance was actually passed banning sidewalk camping, if there are enough shelter beds and alternative camping locations for the homeless. Camps are given notice to move. If they do not, anything left on sidewalks goes into garbage trucks. It is slow progress, but at least steps are being taken in the right direction.
The underlying issue is narcotics. Meth, crack, fentanyl are creating zombie jungles in California urban areas. These hardcore drugs take people down a road very few return from.
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From Yahoo News:
“Donald Trump’s legal challenges may be helping him in Iowa
Even as Trump faces mounting legal troubles, his support appears only to grow.
A grand jury in Georgia indicted Trump Aug. 15 for allegedly attempting to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election there.
The Iowa Poll, which was conducted Aug. 13-17, showed greater support for Trump in the days after the indictment was unveiled.”
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The polling numbers have remained the same for months. Trump has a massive lead in the polls for the Republican primary. The race between Biden and Trump is too close to call:
Real Clear Polling Averages: Biden vs. Trump: 7/21 – 8/20
Biden 44.2%
Trump 43.7%
Biden +0.5
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For those preferring a candidate other than Trump, these numbers should be encouraging:
#NEW @EchelonInsights/@MainStreetGOP Poll:
IOWA
Trump 33% (+16)
DeSantis 17%
Scott 13%
Ramaswamy 8%
Christie 4%
Pence 3%
Haley 2%
Burgum 2%
Hurd 1%
NEW HAMPSHIRE
Trump 34% (+20)
Christie 14%
Ramaswamy 11%
DeSantis 9%
Scott 7%
Pence 3%
Haley 3%
Hurd 3%
Burgum 2%
Hutchinson 1%
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I need to look into this deeper. But I do think Trumps floor is about 33% in most states. The only way he losses is if the race gets down to two.
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Biden Job Approval
Among adults (1,651):
Approve 32%
Disapprove 59%
Among RV (1,240):
Approve 33%
Disapprove 61%
@premisedata, 8/17-21
projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/
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2024 National Republican Primary:
Trump 52% (+40)
DeSantis 12%
Ramaswamy 10%
Pence 4%
Scott 4%
Christie 3%
Haley 3%
Binkley 1%
Hutchinson 1%
Burgum 0%
Hurd 0%
Suarez 0%
Stapleton 0%
Johnson 0%
Elder 0%
@Harris_X_/@AmfreeChamber, 1,057 LV, 8/17-21
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If gang bangers case is moved to federal court, all defendants go to federal court. There will no splitting-some tried in ga , some tried by the fed.
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Inflation is a killer In particular food inflation.
MizDonna
@donwill94062871
Polls reveal #1 issue for voters is the economy.
People remember the economy pre C19.
No matter how hard they try to spin #Bidenomics, it’s not good
We are told people voted Biden over Trump bc they didn’t want ‘drama’
Economy > drama
They think Trump will fix it again.
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This is per two attorneys. Not sure but makes sense.
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Looks like Joe fell fast asleep during the presentations by victims of the Maui fire. That’s really a great look there, Joe.
No comment. LOL
No way they run this guy in a general election 16 months from now. He’d already be gone if Democrats weren’t counting on Trump’s nomination to bail them out.
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I played pickle ball for the first time.
Pulled a muscle in my heel.
Then pulled a muscle in the back of my upper leg (same leg as hurt heel).
I am now on injured reserve.
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According to Trump, there are no good republicans in the republican party, except him.
I guess he will be filling his cabinet with Ds and Is.
Is Trump really being paid off to secretly work for the Ds?
Evidence:
2018 election
2020 election
2024 primary election…
“Trump…Best thing to happen to Dems since the Great Depression first hit.”
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Biden’s presence in Maui was both a disaster and embarrassment. He was booed by the people of Maui, lied his a++ off telling stories about himself that were pure fiction, and was photographed asleep during a gathering.
The R debates are tonight. According to news reports RDS has asked any Trump people not be given access to the venues.
Finally, Dr.Naomi Wolf, wrote a personal piece in Front Page Magazine, about her visit to Mar a Largo to hear DJT accept an award from the Jewish community. Mine you, she has made a name for herself researching the Pfizer clinical trials, being in the forefront of recognizing all the harms the COVID vaccine has caused. She also is a democrat who couldn’t stand Trump, saying her only reason for going was for journalistic purposes. However, her read on Trump significantly changed once she saw and heard him for herself. She called her original opinion was more an indoctrination by the press and others. While she still had differences regarding his style she no longer hated him. I think this may be the case for many, where their image of him is created thru the eyes and words of the media, and those who simply resent his popularity among the people.
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Eliana Johnson
@elianayjohnson
“The debate that will be a nondebate is completely appropriate for a contest that has become a noncontest in a party that is rapidly becoming a nonparty,” @gerardtbaker
https://t.co/VnAEVPRblR
– Harsh, but true. The Republican Party, as a functioning political operation organized around winning, really doesn’t exist anymore. With Ronna McDaniel at the helm, it just functions as a pro-Trump super pac and that’s what the base voters want.
It will probably take a decade or so after Trump has left the scene to get the party back to a credible political organization that nominates electable candidates across the board.
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Bitter
Have you checked in with Wes lately? How is he doing? Does he plan on joining the nuthouse when he feels better?
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I’m 100% convinced Biden would’ve already announced he wasn’t running for reelection had he picked a more credible and competent VP. He knows Harris is a mess and thinks she could lose. But like a lot of Democrats, Biden got caught up in the George Floyd aftermath and pigeonholed himself into choosing a Black running mate. He choose poorly.
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Wes is silent on FB so I don’t know his status. I don’t know when or if he will be joining us. He has turned very anti-Trump.
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If they aren’t paying him they ought to be.
Trump:
Pretty good President policy wise
Was unfairly persecuted by the media for the fake Russian hoax scam
BS impeachments by the Democratic congress
BS prosecutions by Democratic hack DA’s in blue venues
Sure loser in any GE.
All true.
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As many people who love him, just as many hate him. The same thing can be said about Biden.
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🤔
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Jeff Stein
@JStein_WaPo
New: Trump is vowing an “automatic” 10% tariff on *ALL* imports to US
Calls for “ring” around US economy
Would likely mean global trade war far surpassing his 1st term’s
Came up at Bedminster dinner last week w/ top aides, including Kudlow & Gingrich
– Trump was terrible on trade and he wants to be even worse in his never-gonna-happen second term.
I would enjoy watching free trader Jason fraud contort himself into defending tariffs.
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Thanks for the update. If you contact him on FB messenger any time soon, let him know we’re asking about him.
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Taps the sign “Baris is a fraud and a liar”.
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No joke…my wife wonders 😂
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Jason has ripped Trump’s protectionist trade policies since Trump came down the escalator in 2015. Robbie knows that.
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And Jason fraud ripped Trump up and down during the 2016 campaign only to become one of his biggest defenders after he accidentally won. Bitter knows that.
Jason fraud absolutely has it in him to flip on trade should devotion to Trump require it. Frauds flip their stances all of the time and Jason fraud doesn’t want to be on the outside looking in when it comes to Trump worship.
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Speaking of flipping…..
“So Amoral Scumbag, were you lying when you said you voted for Trump or were you lying when you said you didn’t vote for Trump.
A friend wants to know.
Robbie says:
November 20, 2020 at 1:42 pm
Pitchaboy says:
November 20, 2020 at 12:24 pm
Does anyone here STILL believe Robbie voted for Trump? If so, I have a bridge……
– I voted straight party Republican on election day so I, therefore, voted for Trump.”
And don’t give us the “I was hacked BS” I already showed the rest of post proving it was you.
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And Jason fraud ripped Trump up and down during the 2016 campaign only to become one of his biggest defenders ”
Hmnmm….
Is this the same Amoral Scumbag that calls the Golden Calf a “total bum, a clown and a Trump clone”? and now pretends to support him (well, DID pretend).
Was that a “flip”?
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I would enjoy watching free trader Jason fraud contort himself into defending tariffs.”
LOL.
There is 0 chance of that, as anyone who has read my views on free trade here for over 15 years can attest.
Of course, 0 is still higher than the chance Amoral Scumbag would actually vote for a Republican on the ballot.
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Some people are buying shares at 5 to 1 odds that Vivek will be the nominee.
I am offering 10 to 1 that he won’t. Any takers?
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7053/Who-will-win-the-2024-Republican-presidential-nomination
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Amoral Scumbag’s efforts to tag me as some kind of MAGA Trump supporter are hilarious.
I didn’t support him for the nomination in 2016 and I don’t support him for the nomination now. In my view Trump is not a conservative, he is an opportunist posing as one when convenient. Those two opinions alone should put to rest any idea that makes me a “Trump supporter”.
I give Trump his due where I think he did good things as President: judicial appointments, war on the MSM and wokeness, energy independence, lower taxes, deregulation, strong military. I think he was wrongly targeted while President, I think both impeachment efforts were trash, and I think EVERY charge against him now is politically motivated garbage.
I have serious difference with his AFL-CIO agenda trade policies, his big government spending, some of his isolationist foreign policy ideas including his baseless attacks on NATO, his insistence on a physical border wall across the entire border, his self defeating attacks on people he needed as allies, and many of his appointments to cabinet and other positions. I think he is the wrong person to be the face of the R party moving forward, I think he is too old to be President and has too much baggage to be effective even if he did win.
I will certainly vote for him if he is the nominee, but that hardly makes me “devoted to Trump” as Amoral Scumbag lies above.
So Amoral Scumbag can take his “Trump worship” BS and GFH.
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JUST IN: NBC reports that Donald Trump’s interview with Tucker Carlson will *NOT* be recorded live on debate night, and was already pre-recorded last week with Tucker.
Does this surprise you? 🤔
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I won’t be watching either one.
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The headline on FoxNews says Youngkin doesn’t rule out a 2024 bid. I think that oversells what he said in the video. I think it’s clear he’s thinking about running, but I also think he won’t. Regardless, I think it’s interesting Youngkin continues to avoid saying he isn’t/won’t run in 2024.
https://t.co/GjOcnRbVIm
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My screen name was repeatedly stolen by Hunter at HHR. You know, but you prefer to lie because that’s what Trumpers and frauds do. They lie.
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I know this is a terribly difficult concept for a moron like you to grasp, but it is entirely possible to support a candidate (even one with whom you don’t always agree) and still be critical of the way in which that person runs the race. I support DeSantis and will vote for him if the race is still a competitive one when the primary reaches my state in May 2024.
However, DeSantis has run a terrible campaign up to this point. His campaign launch on Twitter Spaces was an embarrassment and he’s already had to fire his campaign manager and about a third of his staff. No one knows what his message is and no one knows what his forward-looking agenda is.
Since he entered the race, DeSantis has lost ground to Trump. Maybe you think that’s the sign of good campaign, but I don’t and that’s why he’s flagging in the polls and could be down and out if his debate performance isn’t good.
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No free lunch, fraud. You’re a Trumper through and through. The moment Trump levies a tariff in his make believe second term, you’ll find a way to say it could work and that he deserves a chance to see what happens. It’s the game you’ve always played here. Talk big and then act meekly the moment he does something over which you drew a line in the sand.
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Tucker also did an interview with pro-Putin propogandist Col. Doug MacGregor about Ukraine. Nothing gets the blood flowing in Tucker’s groin quite like pushing pro-Putin talking points and hoping Ukraine loses the war.
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Kevin Tierney
@CatholicSmark
Vivek is the Michelle Bachmann of 2023. Just a con artist soaking up media time and doing the bidding of the front runner.
– And this is why Trump worshippers like Vivek so much. They may be dumb, but they know a pro-Trump stalking horse when they see one.
I wonder how Nikki Haley feels about this? She ran solely to be Trump’s VP and now she’s getting dusted by a guy who turned out to be a 9/11 truther. Oh, wait. I’m sorry, Vivek was just asking questions.
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Looks like the demented dictator nodded off during the Maui fire memorial. That trip was a disaster. Look for the Russian hoaxer to run cover.
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This is a crime – in Ccp ville or Krapistan. 180 years.
UPDATE 🚨 An attorney for John Eastman, who previously served as Donald J. Trump’s lawyer, said Eastman was planning to surrender himself to officials at the Fulton County Jail. Eastman’s attorney said, “He is going to trial, there will be no plea deal.” (ABC News)
WATCH — When asked if he still believes the election was stolen, former Trump attorney John Eastman says yes.
https://t.me/THEREALTORIABROOKE/37169
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He needs to be in the next trump admin.
https://rumble.com/v3a7e30-ep.-18-into-the-abyss-colonel-douglas-macgregor-tells-us-why-the-ukraine-wa.html
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This sounds like a disaster.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/08/18/brett-odonell-desantis-gop-debate-00111713
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/08/22/nolte-sleeping-joe-bidens-nine-cruel-maui-bungles/
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MacGregor is a total joke. He is a Putin toadie who just spouts stupidity. Here some of his most most ridiculous predictions:
“2-27-22 Macgregor said Ukrainians have 24 hours to surrender because the “game is over”
3-5-22 he predicted the war would be over within 10 days
9-12-22 he said Ukrainians are “desperate” and “war may be over soon”
Starting to think he might not know what he’s talking about… ”
Putin’s trolls have been out in force recently, and that is probably a good sign. Netherlands and Denmark are giving Ukraine F-16 fighter jets; pilots are being trained. The rumblings are some experienced pilots have volunteered from foreign countries.
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You seem to have an admiration for Putin trolls.
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Politico with another MSM hit piece on RDS they just love working in harmony with Trump and the Woke Commie Dems.
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How in the heck did these two candidates make it to qualify in the faux news /gop-e/corporatist sheot sheot show?
(7) North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum and (8) former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson.
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If Tucker does a softball interview with Trump he will lose tons of credibility.
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Chamber of ccp commerce must have begged faux to have bubblegum and Aida involved
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Really the blob and depends should also not be on the debate stage.
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Karen depends would be better suited on cn and n.
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Gallup did a poll of the favorable/unfavorable ratings of 15 public figures:
In 1st place was Prince William; 59% favorable vs. 22% unfavorable;
In 2nd place Volodymar Zelensky 57% favorable versus 29% unfavorable;
Donald Trump, 41% favorable vs. 55% unfavorable, and Joe Biden 41% favorable vs. 57% unfavorable, were about tied;
Kamala Harris was 38% favorable vs. 53% unfavorable; and Ron DeSantis was at 37% favorable vs. 48% unfavorable.
In last place was Vladimir Putin with only 5% favorable vs. 90% favorable.
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I haven’t mentioned this in a while, but we should never forget Jason fraud wanted to Trump to give Fauci a presidential medal of freedom for his mask mandates and forced shutdowns in 2020.
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correction: Putin was 90% unfavorable.
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Maybe even worse is Trump wanted to make MacGregor ambassador to Germany in early 2020 and MacGregor is a frontrunner to be Trump’s secretary of defense if he wins another term.
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“I haven’t mentioned this in a while, but we should never forget Jason fraud wanted to Trump to give Fauci a presidential medal of freedom for his mask mandates and forced shutdowns in 2020.”
Is this the truth? OMG
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Emerson NH poll…this shows how skewed polls are. What a crock.
Middle-aged adults are less favorable of DeSantis – just 4% of voters ages 30 to 49 would support DeSantis, compared with 56% who support Donald Trump.
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Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
NEW: Jack Smith’s team says a key witness in the documents case — whose testimony fueled explosive obstruction charges against Trump — changed his testimony after switching from a Trump-financed attorney to a public defender.
– It’s almost as if the attorneys Trump provides to those who were indicted along with him are crooks there to serve conman Donnie’s interests and not those of the client.
Strange, right?
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Oh, yeah. Jason fraud wrote repeatedly at the end of 2020 on HHR that Trump should’ve given Fauci a presidential medal of freedom.
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Personally, I favor 90% of President Putin.
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That guy is conflicted.
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Isn’t it interesting that the only argument team Trump is making for why he should be the nominee is “the polls?”
He doesn’t NEED to debate! LOOK AT THE POLLS!
He’s not making a case for what he will do differently as president that he didn’t already have the chance to do for 4 years. It’s just “the polls, the polls, the polls!”
For decades we’ve had primaries and no one paid attention to the polls. They are almost always inaccurate.
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Bad look.
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I will say this…I am proud Jason refers to me as having TDS after knowing this (I did vote for DJT twice).
I am supporting the true anti-establishment candidate not the faux one.
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My son in law had his law school paid by scholarship from the Federalist Society. Don’t tell me Vivek as a millionaire has his scholarship from the Soros Foundation and doesn’t have any obligations toward their vision.
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Dana Perino on Fox News just now to Jim Messina (former Obama campaign manager):
“Do you think democrats are in a good position going into 2024?”
Messina: “I think we are. Especially if it’s against Donald Trump. Absolutely”
Dems are salivating at a Trump nomination. Are we really going to be this stupid??
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Freaking liars…
Now, why on earth would Vivek Pharmaswampy care so much about not wanting GOP voters to know about:
* the Soros fellowship he received (while already a multi-millionaire, no less)
* his position on Ohio’s Covid-19 response team
* his close ties with a scientist who pioneered mRNA vaccines
* his religion
… that he paid to have it all removed from his Wikipedia page before announcing? 🤔
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All of that is included in his current wikipedia. Did he pay to have it removed without realizing it would all be back once other editors reversed the changed? Anyone can be an editor. I’m a wikipedia editor. LOL.
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Just to clarify….it was a fellowship funded by George Soros’ older brother. It was the “The Paul & Daisy Soros Fellowships for New Americans.” So it wasn’t the George Soros Foundation. I know this because of his wikipedia page. 🙂
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I find interesting that Faux News is pushing Vivek hard all day.
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Credibility? He had that once? Who knew?
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