Despite me rather than because of me, the lifeboat sails on. We did lose some posters as HHR sank. Agree or disagree with them but they were part of HHR and are welcome to return. Except for one.
- GOP maybe rid of Massie?
- Wednesday without Polls
- Collins in Deep Trouble in Maine
- Monday Morning After Incredible Rescue
- Good Friday for those who Observe it
Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 41.6 / 55.6 | -14.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 45.5 / 52.1 | -6.6 |
 | GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +21 | 207 | 228 |
The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
556 responses to “Searching for survivors open thread.”
I presume you are referring to that legend in his own mind, Tgca.
Yes, not welcome – such a dick.
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I am amazed he stayed away. I won’t be shocked if he commits a mass shooting with no outlet for his Trump-worshipping rants
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Bitter you did a great job, and under difficult circumstances.
You have a good core group now. I believe gradually your likely to see more former HHR posters post on this blog, particularly as the election approaches.
They can obtain the link off the now closed HHR board, which is still up online.
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The comment below was also posted as the last one on the prior thread. I’m off to the movies now to see “Sound of Freedom.” The movie was rejected, back in 2018, by all major movie companies because it’s content was deemed too unpopular with the public.
However, its producers persevered, and by appealing to the pubic (not the establishment corporate producers), they managed to get it on almost 2000 screens for a July 4th opening. It grossed enough to cover most of the costs incurred in making it, and are projected to make more this weekend. I will be contributing to their well deserved profits. In some ways I see this as analogous to what is posted below.
janzam
July 8, 2023 at 1:56 pm
I believe we are at a crucial turning point in our history of being a sovereign nation. It’s obvious the window of our freedoms, ability to speak our minds, school and raise our own children is being strong-armed and closing. In most great struggles of the past leaders were chosen not for their political correctness and polite mannerisms, but for their verve and fortitude to do the right thing. Now is no different in that it’s going to take someone stubborn and coarse enough, to withstand and not whither, under the left’s barrage of grief they will throw at him. I’m increasingly thinking Trump, by far (if they don’t jail him first), fits that description more than any other candidate in the field thus far.
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“I’m increasingly thinking Trump, by far (if they don’t jail him first), fits that description more than any other candidate in the field thus far.”
janzam,
You are entitled to your opinion, but I think your opinion is way wrong about Trump being the only R candidate who is up to the task (and best for the task).
His behavior proved to me he is not.
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Went to WalMart to pick up a few things.
I like WalMart.
But, Jesus, the people you see there and plenty of other public places.
Blue hair.
All tattoo-ed up.
Pierced noses, chks, belly buttons, this and that with metal, bones and God only knows what else attached to the piercings. Cannot help but think we are living in the Star Wars Bar scene.
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Trump wonders if he should debate
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As I said in the last thread: I’m not sure demented Joe can afford to “lose” another war because the talking point might become he screwed up Ukraine and Afghanistan both.
Hence it makes sense that Joe will want to keep the Ukraine war going strong through the 2024 election and into 2025 when he could eventually wind it down with a peace treaty.
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It used to be that famous stars and performers mostly just STFU about national issues .
But today, which is true concerning famous movie stars, musicians, singers, TV stars, etc. who get involved in politics and endorsing candidates?
A. These people become rich and famous and are dogged constantly by “the press”. for interviews. So they begin to opine and wax rhetorically about fields and subjects on which they know absolutely nothing and have no expertise like abortion, economy, foreign affairs, government spending, inflation, voting laws, tax policy, illegal immigration issues, environmental ‘issues’ and endorse various causes and political candidates. And then that info is transmitted to the rest of America.
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B. the adoring fans of the rich and famous movie stars contact the stars and say: “Hey I loved you work (acting, music, singing, etc.) and you are REALLY, REALLY good at that. I am a 18-35 year- old American who has very limited knowledge of current issues and government and history and geography, economics, etc., etc. and–while I know you also possess nothing more than a superficial knowledge (at best) of these weighty issues–I wonder if you could give me guidance on who to vote for in the upcoming election for X, Y and Z. I am too busy/lazy
to research the issues and form an educated opinion of my own concerning the issues and candidates. Could you help me out by issuing a press release or doing an interview with Hollywood media outlets and tell me what issues you support or oppose (BLM, SCOTU opinions, border security issues, drug policy, etc. etc. etc.) and which candidates you like or don’t like? You do not have to give any reasons for your views. Because you are such a great performer, I feel certain that you also have a keen awareness and insight on how all these issues and candidates’ policy proposals impact me and my $35,000 job.”
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WHICH IS IT?
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Walmart tends to have a unique clientele. Noticed it in several states. I do a lot of mail order from Walmart. But buy regular groceries elsewhere.
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Oh, and happy day 500!
(of the Russia/Ukraine war)
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Erick Erickson
@EWErickson
I’m on a number of group chats, email lists, etc., and all of them are dealing with ongoing threads of frustration about the DeSantis campaign. The perception is settling in that something needs to happen, but everyone has a different opinion on what to do.
– It sucks that DeSantis’ campaign has flatlined so badly, but it’s good that conservative voices like Erick Erickson are willing to openly discuss the need for some sort of course correction. Hopefully, seeing outside supporters making comments like this will cause DeSantis and his wife (his top advisor) to make some changes while there’s still plenty of time.
One thing DeSantis could definitely use is his own version of Lee Atwater or Karl Rove, a strategist. That person may not exist, though. Regardless, DeSantis needs a skilled strategist to message his campaign. The woman serving as his campaign manager is a nuts-and-bolts, day-to-day operation type of person, not a vision person.
If DeSantis stays on the same course, he’ll lose and lose badly so there’s really no harm in exploring a different way. My advice would be to run as a conservative Republican as existed in 2014, not as a more conservative, less abrasive version of Trump. That’s not working. Kemp, Reynolds, and Youngkin all ran in that manner and won. DeSantis did in 2022 as well. But for whatever reason, DeSantis seems to be running a replay of Cruz’s 2016 campaign.
For whatever reason though, Republicans have forgotten how to persuade voters and make to them move their way. Trump certainly did that in Summer 2015 and it worked. But since 2015, Republicans have basically decided that it’s better to just follow the base rather than try and lead the base to a different view. This seems to be the strategy DeSantis, Haley, Scott, and Pence have adopted in hopes they’ll be a suitable landing spot for Trump falls apart. Well, he won’t.
Six months until Iowa is a long time, but it’s getting late early. If DeSantis is serious about winning, he’s going to have to adjust. It’s that simple. That doesn’t mean lobbing MSNBC style attacks at Trump, but what he’s been doing hasn’t worked at all.
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Trump is the only person who can lose to Biden, but this post shows Trump has become some sort of mystical religious figure to his supporters.
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His biggest problem is that he is the anti-Trump or NeverTrump candidate. He’s also pro-deepstate, supports the FBI and CIA, and is supported by the Bushes. He’s become the “establishment” candidate that 99% of the GOP base destest.
I have no idea how he fixes this given he actually doesn’t talk to anyone like Vivek does, and he is incapable of convincing anyone that he isn’t a placeholder candidate (aka new Jeb Bush)
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Trump has been unfairly treated again! The FBI and DOJ are out to get him! These charges are all made up! Pence was wrong on electors! Trump is the biggest threat to the establishment! He is the only one that will clean the swamp! Look at the polls he will win in 2024! The election was stolen and he deserves our support! DeSantis needs to apologize for being disloyal.
Some of these statements are definitely true. Some aren’t even close. It really doesn’t matter.
The Woke Commie Dems, Uniparty GOP, and corrupt DOJ and FBI…THEY DONT CARE.
They are assured they will get away with it. The media covers for them. The Woke Commie Dems hold the executive branch. Uniparty has the Senate. The GOP is divided in the House.
No committee hearing. No whistleblower. No review of January 6th video. Will change a thing.
How many years have we seen this game played?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
The 2024 election cycle is starting off as a disaster for the GOP.
There is a lot that could change and let’s hope it’s for the better.
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Richard Hanania
@RichardHanania
The Republican Party in Arizona is broke because it spent much of its money on trying to overturn elections. Now they might lose both houses of the state legislature in 2024. https://azcentral.com/story/opinion/op-ed/2023/07/08/arizona-republican-party-broke-independent-voter-problem/70386200007/
– You mean to tell me Chemtrail Kelli’s tenure as head of the Arizona Republican Party was a disaster?
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Jon Gabriel
@exjon
The Arizona GOP only has $50K on hand. Independents are just 10K voters away from passing them as the state’s largest “party.” This is what happens when you lose interest in winning elections.
– But, but, but I was assured by Jason fraud and the others that election integrity was a huge winning issue. You’re not telling me the gang that can’t shoot straight was wrong, are you?
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That’s the answer. Cocaine has been in the white house since for.
Never mind the full grifter family was present mooching off the taxpayers.
Cameras are everywhere.
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Since fdr*
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Graham still causing trouble for USA
Kick him out of the senate!
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.@SenJohnKennedy: “If my record was as bad as this White House’s record, I’d probably give my staff blow too.”
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Nothing to see here…it’s not disgusting.
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I do not find this endearing or funny. Trump is an a$$hole. Ripping apart the GOP.
https://twitter.com/cryptidpolitics/status/1677850304472137731?s=61&t=uLyKpWBwDwyCK292uUHCSA
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Team Trump
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My advice would be to run as a conservative Republican as existed in 2014″
Zzzzz…… why not 1860? 2014 is about as remote as that. 2014 was a dead cat bounce of a party that was on its way to lose 3 presidential elections in a row if not for Trump.
Yeah, you really want to follow the advice of a TDS fake conservative loser like Erick Erickson and someone who calls the Golden Calf a “total bum, clown and Trump clone”.
The fact Amoral Scumbag is already bailing out on the Golden Calf by starting the old “his campaign sucks”, his “team sucks”, his “campaign manager sucks”, his usual M.O. before he announces he will just be forced to vote for the Democrat tell you everything about this POS scumbag with the moral compass of a floating turd.
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Warmonger news is going full Cn and n.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/fox-news-cheap-shot-against-president-trump-blows/
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“try and lead the base to a different view”
Yeah, the “base” really wants Amoral Scumbag’s view, the view that has not even acknowledged Biden is President yet. The “base” really wants the view that regurgitates every left wing MSM talking point.
There is no shrink in the world that can cure that kind of delusion.
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The Woke Commie Dems, Uniparty GOP, and corrupt DOJ and FBI…THEY DONT CARE.
They are assured they will get away with it. The media covers for them. The Woke Commie Dems hold the executive branch. Uniparty has the Senate.”
And their greatest supporter here is JeffP. As long as they attack Trump, he loves them.
I know, he is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but still….
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LFG!
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Maybe TinyD will learn that the FBI is not his friend next time LOL
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@DarthPutinKGB
Me Feb 22 “I have made “difficult decision” to invade and use cluster munitions on 🇺🇦civilians”
tankies: ………
US July 23 “We have made difficult decision to help Ukraine defend itself with cluster munitions on 🇷🇺army
Tankies: “we are now outraged about cluster munitions”
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Trump is an a$$hole. Ripping apart the GOP.”
LOL
I think JeffP is an a$$hole. Ripping apart HHR.
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It must really suck to be a miserable pathetic moron like JeffP.
He got everything he has been advocating for and is still unhappy.
He wanted a GOP civil war and a divided party because he thought it would help the Golden Calf. He thought calling at least half the GOP voters that support Trump “disgusting” and other names was smart politics.
He wanted Trump indicted on bogus charges because the ends justify the means, it was ok to weaponize the DOJ and to have a two tiered system of justice as long as it damaged Trump. When the charges were announced he was here with the MSNBC talking points about how “serious” it all was and how Trump was “finished”.
Now he is here whining that the “GOP is being ripped apart”.
You reap what you sow.
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Moms for Liberty is anti-woke. DeSantis is anti-woke. Trump couldn’t help himself.
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Trump never can help himself – ever.
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Biden announces we are out of ammunition..
That’s just swell.
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“The US Central Command announced that the leader of ISIS in eastern Syria, Osama al-Muhajir, was killed in a US drone strike on Friday.
The strike was carried out by the same MQ-9 Reapers that were attacked by Russian fighters that day.”
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🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
“NATO agreed on “important decisions” for Ukraine, – Dmytro Kuleba 👀
“Several important decisions for Ukraine and NATO have already been agreed upon. According to the results of the summit, our path to the alliance will definitely become shorter””
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Putin ain’t getting no respect from anyone. Prigozhin needs to finish the job of removing him:
🇹🇷 🇺🇦 “Turkey and Ukraine have confirmed that the grain agreement will remain, even if Russia formally withdraws from it.
The Turkish Navy will ensure the security of corridors for ships.”
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We can always make more ammunition, and Biden was referring to just one type of ammunition if you can get through to what his dementia fried brain was trying to say. Allowing annexation of Ukraine is permanent. Better we letter Ukrainians use our ammunition to fight off the Russians now than we have to use it to fight off the Russians later.
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“NATO agreed on “important decisions” for Ukraine, – Dmytro Kuleba 👀
OMG, more escalation.
For those that don’t know, my definition of “escalation:” is anything that keeps Russians from slaughtering more Ukrainians.
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Janet Yellon bowing profusely and repeatedly to her Chinese counterpart was seen as humiliating gestures by the American public.
Biden is being called a war criminal for sending deadly banned cluster bombs to Ukraine. NATO and the Red Cross have criticized this action, as well as 120 countries. Only Lindsey Graham and Bitter are delighted with this gift to Ukraine.
The NY Times has an opinion piece out blasting Biden for turning his back on a grandchild conceived though a disputed Hunter affair.
Just a few news morsels biting Biden in the behind during last week’s news cycle.
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Bitterlaw
July 9, 2023 at 9:46 am
Moms for Liberty is anti-woke. DeSantis is anti-woke. Trump couldn’t help himself.”
Trump is burning a lot of bridges. He is looking at polls that say it is not hurting him, yet.
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IMO, he has been told he needs to get rid of the Golden Calf ASAP to have a clear path to the nomination, and THAT is why he firing at him with all guns.
The Golden Calf just raised $20 million so he is competitive financially. He needs to ignore Trump as much as possible and sell himself as the new and improved Trump, not the anti-Trump.
Nobody is going to beat Trump running as the anti-Trump, you read it here first. Many voters see Trump as a victim, including me. Using MSM and Dem talking points to attack him only cements his support.
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No buddy you will be crying the same whataboutism tune after another loss in 2024 on HHR. You project things on to me all the time that aren’t true I am used to it. GFY.
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Biden is being called a war criminal for sending deadly banned cluster bombs to Ukraine. NATO and the Red Cross have criticized this action, as well as 120 countries. Only Lindsey Graham and Bitter are delighted with this gift to Ukraine.”
Zzzzzz….so it is only ok if Putin uses cluster bombs in Ukraine? He is the real war criminal.
Add me to the list of those “delighted”. Give the Russians a taste of their own medicine.
How about cruise missiles fired into populated areas? Does jan have any objections to that as a “war crime”? Or the displacement of 10 million people? Or the killing, rapee,torture and forced exile of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians? Are those war crimes?
Jan is like JeffP, she is adamantly against anything that impedes her hero Putin from slaughtering more Ukrainians.
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Trump is burning a lot of bridges. .. LOL … Trump is not a victim…he is controlled opposition. As a true conservative I am not into victim hood.
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ending deadly banned cluster bombs to Ukraine.”
More lies. There is a anti-cluster bomb “convention” signed by fewer than half the countries in the world but the US is NOT party to it. Neither is Russia or Ukraine.
Maybe Jan can read up a little more before saying something stupid.
“The convention bans the production, transfer, stockpiling and use of cluster munitions in all circumstances and requires relevant states to implement victim assistance measures. Neither Russia, Ukraine, nor the United States are signatories or state parties to the convention.
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President Trump Walks Into UFC 290 and Crowd Goes Wild – Joins Joe Rogan, Dana White, Mel Gibson And More at Vegas Event After Rally with Volunteers
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/trump-meets-up-joe-rogan-mel-gibson-more/
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DeSantis is the best chance to end the DOJ and FBI corruption. Instead of whining about it do something about. He will not be shy using Article 2 authority.
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DeSantis doesn’t even understand what woke is. The wokes control the news and program NPC’s with the “current thing.”‘
Since DeSantis getting programmed with the current thing that means he’s an NPC.
NPC’s can’t be against woke.
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President Trump holds meeting with Mel Gibson and Roger Stone after Sound of Freedom tops box office
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Mel Gibson salutes the REAL U.S. President
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IMPEACH
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cluster-bombs-ukraine-us-aid-package/
A convention banning the use of cluster bombs has been joined by more than 120 countries that agreed not to use, produce, transfer or stockpile the weapons and to clear them after they’ve been used. The U.S., Russia and Ukraine are among those who have not signed on.
Ryan Brobst, a research analyst for the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, said that while the majority of NATO members have signed on to the cluster munitions ban, several of those nearest Russia — Estonia, Latvia, Poland, Romania and Turkey — have not.
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If you want to take the high ground on the usage of cluster bombs while ignoring the possible carnage to civilian populations, then that’s your own lopsided prerogative. However, one of the reasons we are sending these monstrous armaments to Ukraine is because we are running out of our own ammunition stockpiles. Supposedly, even after cluster bombs explode they pose a danger to civilian lives. So, let’s just keep the killing fields fertile with more bodies by applying even a deadlier round of weapons. For me, that makes no sense, especially when there are rumors of secret peace talks taking place on the side.
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JeffP, what is DeSantis’s stance and policies on dealing with China aggression and the stealing of our technology?
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Ericka the red (aka pink state) is concerned thst Rds support is plummeting. I don’t know what has changed, if anything, since the start of the month. The more spent, the worse he does.
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I think the only thing that stops trump is an external intervention. These cases, including stoners case are all based on deceit, lies, omissions, and fairytales.
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HEADLINE
“Forty percent of Brown University students say they are LGBT, suggesting social contagion”
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No, it suggests that 40% of Bown students have been duped by the media and others pushing LBGTQEIEIO and are very confused.
Part of the “You can be anything you want to be nonsense that we raised several generations on.
I tell you…Star Wars bar scene…it’s here.
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Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸
@jacksonhinklle
The world needs Stalin right now…
– This clown is one of the online thought leaders of the new populist right that Jason fraud thinks is so great.
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“JeffP, what is DeSantis’s stance and policies on dealing with China aggression and the stealing of our technology?”
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Janzam,
That should not even be close to the top issue re: China.
The REAL #1 issue is what is his stance on the Uyghurs (and possibly the Klingons).
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LOL
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jason
July 8, 2023 at 11:48 pm
Zzzzz…… why not 1860? 2014 is about as remote as that. 2014 was a dead cat bounce
– The 2014 elections produced the largest House majority since 1928, the second largest Senate majority since 1928, the largest number of state legislative seats held by the party ever, and the most governorships held at the same time ever.
But Jason fraud, a low information idiot Trump worshippers, would have everyone believe it was garbage because conman Donnie Trump played no role in it happening.
Jason fraud is the useful idiot Lenin knew would be there for his revolution.
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Trump and his endorsed candidates can’t even win GA or AZ. Like Gibson though.
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What Jason fraud, a genuine idiot, doesn’t realize is it’s far more likely another Trump nomination produces a breakup of the Republican Party that produce a sizable third party along the lines of what exists in Great Britain with the Tories, Labour, and the Liberal Democrats.
Of course, Jason fraud doesn’t care about the Republican Party or its electoral success. He cares about conman Donnie Trump and only conman Donnie Trump. It won’t be too long before Jason fraud contorts himself enough to suggest maybe Jackson Hincklle is right and the world does need Staling or someone like him.
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I still haven’t seen Wes, NYCmike, and Waingro in the new forum. I hope they show up.
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I read a comment yesterday that said, “half the people want Trump in jail, and half want him to be their president.” I think this is an accurate assessment of the way our country politically stands today.
No matter how one feels about this man, though, he is a political phenomenon who rarely comes around the national stage anymore. Trump’s public engagement is probably what sets him apart the most from DeSantis. He simply likes mingling with the common guy, whether it’s in a huge stadium, a pizza parlor, or pulling off the side of the road to shake hands with people. After his Nevada speech he walked into the UFC 290, packed with people, who gave him an enthusiastic welcome. Joe Rogan was there, and there is talk he will be doing an interview with Trump on his popular podcast. All the money and billionaires in the world can’t give you this type of spontaneous, warmly experienced exposure – not even the $150 million DeSantis has on hand from billionaires to spend on his campaign.
Furthermore, most of DeSantis’s policies are basically warmed-up Trump policies, whether it involves the border, administrative state, education, or foreign policy. Another article’s observation was that people are not interested in “Trump lite,” but want the real deal. These are obstacles DeSantis has to recognize and then overcome, hopefully by not simply changing some states electoral rules which would only advantage him.
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Well he signed into law forbidding China to purchase any land, etc… in Florida. Contrary to the lies he supported Trumps Tariffs on China. On the campaign trail he talks about cutting our dependence on them for crucial goods. Opposing ESG, digital currency and ID and the WEF agenda speaks volumes to me about his understanding of Chinas influence globally.
Now I am not 100% sold RDS will be able to do everything he says. I just know he didn’t back down in Florida and took action within his authority. Trump ended up as a huge disappointment to me in 2020 and I have zero hope he could ever win 270 in 2024.
DeSantis is the best hope to win in 2024 and has some track record in leading and taking action. Removing that Soros DA in Tampa got my attention. His stands on strong on Parental rights, ESG, digital currency, WEF, using Article 2 authority…gives me a some real hope. You can’t be “establishment” and have those policies.
Trumps attacking RDS is sickening to me after all he has done for Florida and the conservative movement on parental rights, etc…the last three years.
This is from this morning on a China question…
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No, it suggests that 40% of Bown students have been duped by the media and others pushing LBGTQEIEIO and are very confused.
We may not agree on many issues, but on this one it’s 100%! Youth is very impressionable and malleable. Their tastes and opinions will change after having more experiences in life.
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Jim Swift
@JimSwiftDC
Violent brawl breaks out at Michigan GOP committee meeting
“He kicked me in my balls as soon as I opened the door,”
– The new populist Republican Party that Jason fraud wants in all of its glory. Hard to believe this gang can’t win anything.
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JeffP – thanks for the response. Most everything DeSantis listed he would do to quell China’s dominance mirrors policies espoused by or put into place by Trump (which is encouraging).
Like you mentioned, though, to accomplish certain policy changes, one has to have the authority, and I might add Congressional support, to make promises reality. The EO can accomplish much (as was seen by Biden’s rule), but it is only a transitory fix and can be reversed by the next administration. If RDS doesn’t get the right balance in Congress you may be disappointed in his accomplishments as well.
Although Trump did have an R Congress for his first two years, it was composed of anti-Trumpers who opposed many of his policy changes just because it was him proposing them. Maybe because DeSantis is more establishment friendly, he would have a less divisive time with such a Congress.
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I saw no picture of Gibson saluting Trump. Sounds like embellishment to me.
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Mel Gebson
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The Ukrainian female prime minister demurs, “There is nothing controversial about cluster Bombs,” thanking Biden for making the “difficult decision” of sending them to Ukraine.
However, in this yahoo piece one poster disagrees:
Ask the Vietnamese government. They’re still cleaning up the mess in we left. Unexploded cluster bombs and M79 rounds are the biggest problem and the victims who are dying and losing arms and legs are mostly children and farmers who weren’t even born when the munitions were deployed.
If more munitions are requested by Ukraine will tactical nukes be next?
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Both the UK and France have condemned it.
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Biden doesn’t want a peace treaty because then he will have lost in Afghanistan and Ukraine both.
He wants to be a war time president through the 2024 election and into 2025
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The Russians have been using cluster bombs in Ukraine since they invaded 500 days ago, including against civilian targets.
Did any of the Putin appeasers on this board condemn Putin for doing so? Of course not.
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A peace treaty could be easily agreed to right now. All Putin has to do is withdraw his military from Ukraine.
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Cryptid Politics 🇺🇸🐊
@CryptidPolitics
Donald Trump calls @RonDeSantis a “son of a b!tch” and “highly overrated”.
– Always remember. Jason fraud is fine with Trump attacking DeSantis and everyone else, but he doesn’t want anyone to attack Trump.
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The kerfuffle over cluster bombs is so odd to me. It’s ok to die by the blast of a 1000 lbs. bomb, but not the blast of smaller clusters of bombs?
The weapons of war are meant to kill. I’m glad we still produce cluster bombs and I’m glad we’re giving them to Ukraine. They’re a good weapon against large groups of infantry soldier, especially those in trenches.
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“Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Sunday accused Trump administration agencies of “colluding” with Big Tech to bury the Hunter Biden story in 2020 and criticized the former president for not firing those involved with the alleged collusion at the time.
“I look back at the Hunter Biden censorship, which was a huge, huge deal to happen in the 2020 election, and yet those were Donald Trump’s own agencies that were colluding with Big Tech. I would never allow that to happen. I would fire those people immediately,” DeSantis told Maria Bartiromo in an interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures.””
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I don’t think there are Putin appeasers here. There are simply people who specifically disagree with Biden’s haphazard policy of sending an indeterminate amount of aid and munitions to Ukraine, while depriving people here of a safe border continuously being violated by unvetted people from around the world. Hundreds of people on the terrorist list have been caught under Biden’s lax border policies. However, no one really knows how many got away. In many people’s estimation we are fueling the next 911 event with our poor monitoring of a porous border.
Furthermore, Russia having cluster bombs and using them does not justify or exonerate another country from doing the same thing. Bad and horrific remains bad and horrific. Ukraine using this weaponry only makes them as despicable as Russia using them, as well as the U.S. for supplying them to Ukraine.
Also, SDC, in lieu of people seemingly oblivious towards growing problems here in the states, there are still some engaged and willing to focus on domestic issues and invasions rather than ongoing wars abroad, 24/7. I call such people “American caretakers,” rather than disingenuously labeling them “Putin appeasers.”
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I don’t care how much charisma Trump has…supporting this disconnect from reality is ruining our country. He will always be Bruce Jenner to me.
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It’s ridiculous.
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Trump was in over his head.
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I would add any person of faith supporting this craziness needs to take a look inside themselves.
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So now accusations are being lobbed as some sort of truth? The Hunter Biden laptop, if exposed to the public prior to the 2020 election, cost Trump at least 9 pts, according to some experts. Firing people, though, would only have intensified obstruction of Justice claims towards Trump, anyway. He was hamstrung by the array of political opponents and bureaucrats that wanted him gone. They still do. Being a Monday Morning quarterback is meaningless. And, should DeSantis find himself in a similar shooting gallery, of both the right and left trying to take you out, it will be interesting to see how slickly he handles the problem.
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He had Article 2 authority and never used it to address the administrative state. One of his many failures I cannot excuse or ignore.
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*supporting Trump in this craziness
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Did you see the ugly guy that won miss Netherlands? Trump started that in the US.
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Janz I was not referring to you when I used the term “Putin appeaser”. There are posters on this board who quote Gray Zone and Max Blumenthal as credible sources, despite the fact they are funded by Russia and Putin, and spout Russian propaganda.
I disagree that Ukraine should not use cluster bombs in its defense, focused on military targets, after 500 days of the Russians using them. The Russians have been intentionally bombing civilian targets in Ukraine. Indiscriminately killing civilians, including children. To say that Ukraine using cluster bombs against Russian military targets is as despicable as the Russians indiscriminately using them to bomb cities and civilian targets is absurd.
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Jan stepped into the void left by Tgca as Trump’s biggest fan. Still, she is not vile, vicious and hate-filled so I guess it is an improvement.
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You can’t support the “current thing” and claim to be against wokeness.
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Anything would be an improvement.
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The lack of coverage of the Hunter Biden laptop cost Trump 9 points in the election? That is easily one of the dumbest things to ever be said online, jan.
It probably did not even cost him 9 votes.
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According to Mark Hertling, Turkey has already been supplying Ukraine with cluster munitions:
“Turkey, has been contributing these munitions to Ukraine for the last several months, and they have proven to be effective in some fights.”
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Hate to break it to you SDC but I used a quote from Max Blumenthal earlier – one I heard on an independent newscast and later found online. I posted his statement because I agreed with the content. However, I don’t know what his political ties are nor that of “Gray Zone.” He simply sounded sensible and reasonable regarding how enmeshed we should become, or how far we should go, in aiding what is considered the 3rd most corrupt country in the world – even ahead of Russia in being ethically challenged.
I also remain steadfast regarding my abhorrence in giving vile weapons to Ukraine as cluster bombs or chemical weapons. Russia has always been noted for being an evil empire, with no regard for human life. I expect more, though, from the U.S. in how it arms itself or others, when considering the long term effects of collateral damage. I don’t see how anyone could sanction such brutal warfare! Frankly, what’s the difference between killing and maiming Russian children or Ukrainian children? They are, after all, all children.
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All I’m doing, Bitter, is straightening out some of the kinks people throw into their discussions on why Trump is such an undeserving choice for POTUS. For instance, when someone said Trump supported NC trans bathrooms, I didn’t give a rebuttal because it’s true, and a stance I don’t support. I guess why I’m here is to separate the wheat from the chaff.
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Hunter Biden’s laptop is the Rev. Wright of 2020. Zzzzzzzz on changing the outcome. People heard about it and the ones who cared were already voting for Trump. The people voting for Biden did not care.
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I don’t recall Janz ever making personal attacks, unlikely the poster from the past board who seemed to be using HHR as his personal scream therapy board. It was clear he had a lot of personal issues. I mostly disagree with Janz, but respect her right to express her point of view.
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The mentally challenged person in the White House will not do this, because “renewable energy” special interests groups are now massive contributors to Democratic politicians:
“Sweden just shocked the world by putting the brakes on their renewable energy goals. They officially switched their clean power target from “100% renewable” to “100% fossil free” in order to reach the country’s ambitious clean energy objectives by 2040. Abandoning the 100% renewable goal is a bold move coming from a nation often touted as a “green leader.”
Sweden is going nuclear.”
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“Vladimir Osechkin published one of many similar messages he’s received from relatives of Russian prison inmates sent to fight in Ukraine in the Storm Z penal unit: “Briefly – shrapnel and bullets are not taken out, if vital organs are not hit, if the wound heals and you can somehow move – shrapnel is left in and you are sent to the frontline again, to slaughter.””
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“Turkey is turning from a neutral country into an unfriendly one” – Viktor Bondarev, head of the Russian Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security.”
After Putin fled for his life from Moscow in the face of a motley army of misfits and criminals, does Putin really believe anyone respects him anymore?
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“Turkey stands for an early end to the war and a fair settlement in Ukraine. Ankara supports the integrity of Ukraine” – Erdogan
Meanwhile Syrian militants who are supported by Russia are shelling Turkish based.
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Gibson was shielding his eyes to see better. He wasn’t saluting Trump. LOL.
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does Putin really believe anyone respects him anymore?”
Me, Me, Me, Me!
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If you want to take the high ground on the usage of cluster bombs while ignoring the possible carnage to civilian populations, then that’s your own lopsided prerogative.”
Wow, Jan really has her head way up Putin’s ass.
The Russians are the ones using cluster bombs against civilian populations, but you are here every day to cheer them on as long as they keep killing Ukrainians.
The cluster bombs we are providing are to be used against the Russian invaders, I can see where you have a problem with that.
You are really sick, seek professional help.
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Jan stepped into the void left by Tgca as Trump’s biggest fan. Still, she is not vile, vicious and hate-filled so I guess it is an improvement.”
Not much. She is as much a Putin stooge as he was, and her indifference to what the Russians are doing in Ukraine is pretty vile, vicious and hate filled.
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SanDiegoCitizen
July 9, 2023 at 4:01 pm
The Russians have been using cluster bombs in Ukraine since they invaded 500 days ago, including against civilian targets.
Did any of the Putin appeasers on this board condemn Putin for doing so? Of course not.”
Nah, they are fine with it. The problem is Ukraine having them to defend themselves.
They hate anything that impedes Putin from slaughtering more Ukrainian civilians.
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– Always remember. Jason fraud is fine with Trump attacking DeSantis and everyone else,”
Nah.
I support the Golden Calf and not Trump.
Trump’s attacks on the Golden Calf are false and dishonest.
But how many votes will the Golden Calf take away from Trump by calling him a son of a bitch?
Exactly zero.
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“I look back at the Hunter Biden censorship, which was a huge, huge deal to happen in the 2020 election, and yet those were Donald Trump’s own agencies that were colluding with Big Tech. I would never allow that to happen. I would fire those people immediately,” DeSantis told Maria Bartiromo in an interview on Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures.””
This is the right strategy.
The Golden Calf acknowledges that Trump was victimized but at the same time points out how he would do a better job.
He is obviously smarter than Amoral Scumbal or JeffP, but that is a really low bar.
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A somewhat optimistic take on the senate races.
I agree the GOP is favored in WV, Manchin is toast against Justimce. I think Tester’s time is up in MT. A good GOP candidate can win in OH.
The others are iffy to me.
The Senate will be BIG in 2024. If the Dems win the Presidency, only a GOP senate can keep the Dems from some really crazy st-ff, like DC statehood, packing SCOTUS, HR-1, complete open borders, huge tax hikes.
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2023/07/10/the-senate-races-set-up-dems-for-delicious-agony-n2625470
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Senator John Kennedy: “If my record was as bad as this White House’s record, I’d probably give my staff blow too.”
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Bitterlaw
July 9, 2023 at 11:18 pm
Hunter Biden’s laptop is the Rev. Wright of 2020. Zzzzzzzz on changing the outcome. People heard about it and the ones who cared were already voting for Trump. The people voting for Biden did not care.”
Don’t agree. Trump lost the election by 42k votes in 3 states. Basically you would have needed 21k people to switch in 3 states, and if the story had been carried by the MSM this is such a small swing that it likely would have given Trump the win. You didn’t need 9 pts which I agree is ridiculous. It might have given Trump Nevada too.
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🚨#Breaking, Very good news🍻
“Bakhmut. The enemy is trapped, the city is under fire control of the Defense Forces” — Syrsky🔥‼️🇺🇦
The Russians knew this could happen. Why didn’t they pull back to defensible lines?
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Trump is sowing discord as usual and dividing the GOP. He so predictable and easy for the Woke Commie Dems to use as controlled opposition. It’s kind of obvious to me. Trump is a negative force for 2024 and any objective person knows it. Coddling the koolaid drinkers doesn’t matter either way.
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Devastating. There will never be peace if the Ukrainians keep escalating the war by retaking their own territory. Has someone done a welfare check on Jan, worried about her. I am too traumatized to treat her, but she can go to my therapist.
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Trump is sowing discord as usual and dividing the GOP.”
LOL
Nobody is more in favor of “dividing the GOP” here than JeffP.
But we can add “koolaid drinkers” to all the endearments he reserves for those hated working class people who should never be allowed into the country club GOP.
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The Trump grifters on Twitter and propaganda “news” sites are terrible people. So called the truthers exposing the fake news. Married “swinger” Roger Stone is the best Trump can do for an advisor now?
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JeffP whining about “sowing discord” is like Hitler complaining about discrimination against Jews.
I will give him the HHR “The Pot calling the Kettle Black” Award for 2023.
Nobody else will come close.
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Trump being indicted by the DOJ is about controlled opposition than wanting him in jail before 2024 Election Day. They would LOVE ❤️ for him to win the nomination and run under an appeal or a delayed trial. This is operation chaos on steroids.
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JeffP believed that sowing discord and insulting working class people and promoting a GOP civil war was a good thing for months. He believed regurgitating MSM talking points against Trump and supporting the weaponization of the DOJ and justice system against Trump was just fine, the ends justified the means, the rule of law be dammed as long as it served the “cause” of damaging Trump.
What happened?
Well, here is one thing happening.
Trump at 60% for the first timee at Predictit for the nomination for the first time. Golden Calf at 22%,
On April 16th it was 47-33. On June 10th it was 50-34. Now 60-22.
How are your “devastating” and “serious” indictments working out for you? How is calling working class voters “disgusting” working out for the TDS morons?
Scroll down and look at the 90 day graph and you will see how its working out.
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7053/Who-will-win-the-2024-Republican-presidential-nomination
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You are great at conflating the meaning of my posts into your own fantasy interpretation.
This is exactly the approach DeSantis has been using and I agree with that. Infact I have posted previously about his great responses such as this.
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Trump being indicted by the DOJ is about controlled opposition than wanting him in jail before 2024 Election Day.”
Zzzzzz….
You can’t hide behind the “controlled opposition” BS.
You were here celebrating the indictments as the greatest thing that would “finish” Trump. You latched on all the MSM propaganda and DOJ garbage like a maggot on roadkill.
Most Rs and conservatives understand Trump has been politically persecuted for 7 years. No TDS moron is going to convince them otherwise.
The only way to defeat Trump is to provide for a credible alternative, a better Trump that can win.
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As far as your civil war mantra goes…I said Trump and his supporters are the one
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…are the ones instigating it….but you distort it.
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It’s not BS. They have done it for three election cycles.
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I agree with this take from Shapiro.
Western policy in Ukraine is incoherent, if not outright dangerous. We keep hearing our leaders repeating two phrases: “as long as it takes” and “until Ukraine wins.” The problem is that both are lies, and we all know it.
“As long as it takes” is always a lie in a democracy. See Afghanistan. See Iraq. There will be an end to support, and it generally will come at the worst possible time.
“Until Ukraine wins” is a lie simply because nobody is giving a definition of winning. If by “winning” we use Zelenskyy’s definition — winning back all of Crimea and Donbas — literally no one, including Zelenskyy, thinks that is going to happen.
If by “winning,” we mean that Ukraine preserves her sovereignty, that would provide an off-ramp: the West could and should cut a deal with Russia that grants control of Crimea and parts of Donbas to Russia; the West should give security guarantees, perhaps including NATO membership, to Ukraine. After all, the US has already achieved its objectives: destroying the Russian military, crushing the Russian economy, downgrading the power of a Chinese ally, and showing the Chinese that we will bring power to bear against aggression.
Such a deal would also give Zelenskyy an offramp with his own people: he’d be able to blame the West for forcing him to give away territory, which would allow him to retain his leadership position.
But that would be “our” definition of winning, which Biden has specifically forbidden. So we’re now in the catch-22 of saying that we’ll support Zelenskyy’s untenable “win everything” war and that we will also only admit Zelenskyy to NATO once the war has ended — creating an incentive for both Zelenskyy and Putin to continue the war.
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https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2023/07/10/poll-shows-trump-routs-desantis-in-florida-independents-split-on-disney/70390815007/
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Faux is falling faster than I though.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/fox-news-channel-hits-rock-bottom-drags-old/
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How is calling working class voters “disgusting”… I already addressed this…you interpreted supporters as voters. I didn’t mean that.
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“Most Rs and conservatives understand Trump has been politically persecuted for 7 years.” Duh…that’s what motivates the Dem base the most. They don’t care about anything else. This has nothing to do with justice… there isn’t any.
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If by “winning,” we mean that Ukraine preserves her sovereignty, that would provide an off-ramp: the West could and should cut a deal with Russia that grants control of Crimea and parts of Donbas to Russia; the West should give security guarantees, perhaps including NATO membership, to Ukraine. ”
Zzzzzz…… Putin already had control over Crimea and “parts of the Donbas”.
So he loses 100k troops dead + another 200k injured plus tens of billions in military equipment + economic hardship in Russia + Ukraine now joins NATO in order to have exactly the same thing he had before.
I would be ok with such a deal if the control of the Donbas is pre-invasion borders AND Russia pays for reparations and turns over war criminals.
I doubt Putin is ok with it and I don’t think he can sell it to the Russian people.
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So JeffP, why is Trump leading the Golden Calf in Florida 50-30?
I guess there are more people you call disgusting than you thought, or maybe you don’t care how many there are as long as you get to call them names.
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you interpreted supporters as voters”
LOL
WIns the “Dishonest convoluted squirmy tortuous I got caught in another lie” Award for July.
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Erick Erickson wrote in his newsletter this morning that top DeSantis supporters/donors unanimously agree that Jeff Roe needs to go. They say the campaign is “too online” and looks like a bad replay of Cruz 2016. I guess Jason fraud will now have to attack Erickson as well.
https://ewerickson.substack.com/p/about-that-tweet
This is something I’ve been mentioning for a couple of weeks as well. It’s why I coined the phrase “hug Trump to finish second”. It’s the strategy Roe had Cruz follow in 2016 on the belief Trump would implode. Well, it didn’t happen then and it won’t happen now.
Trump has to be beaten and, until DeSantis and his wife realize that fact, the campaign will continue to flounder. A shakeup, should it happen, doesn’t mean DeSantis will get in gear, though. It might be he just doesn’t have it, but it’s worth a try if he really wants it.
Now is the time, though. A shakeup in October will probably be too late.
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JeffP talks about others drinking “koolaide” is hilarious. Here he is on June 13 after drinking all the MSM indictment koolaide….
JeffP
June 13, 2023 at 8:48 pm
As time goes on and reality sinks in I just don’t see more than 25% of early primary voters sticking with him.”
So far the only reality that has sunk in is Trump gaining in the polls.
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https://headlineusa.com/joe-jill-turn-white-house-into-personal-empire-w-largest-staff-in-nations-history/
The Biden Administration just can’t seem to help themselves in thinking they have an unlimited credit card to spend money, especially on themselves.
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Exactly. Everyone heard about Hunter’s laptop and still decided to vote for Biden. The only people who think it swayed the election are the people who live online and think Twitter is the real world.
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That would be in January or February.
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Hmmm you should read the details…
“Curiously, Trump’s lead appears to have dwindled by 7 percentage points since the most recent FAU and Mainstreet poll in April, which took place before Trump’s June 13 indictment on federal charges of possessing, concealing and obstructing the return of classified documents and other records. Moreover, DeSantis still enjoys a 54% approval rating among all respondents.”
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The Trump voters you semi to be so worried about have been contaminated against DeSantis by Trump and his lying minions. That’s my freaking point.
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DeSantis is never going to win the primary by trying to get to Trump’s right. The Trump voters are going to be with the conman come Hell or high water. They’re never going to vote for anyone other than Trump. Until DeSantis realizes that, his effort will stall.
DeSantis needs to tell voters why they should support him. He needs to provide his vision for the country. Honestly, I don’t really know what DeSantis’ core campaign theme is and that’s a big problem for him. Obama was “change you can believe in” and Trump was “MAGA”. DeSantis is ….?
Again, as much as 65% of the party has shown interest in moving on from Trump. They may not all abandon him, but they’re open to it. They’re not the populists who only showed up for Trump. They’re, by in large, the group who propelled the party to huge wins in 2014. They’re mostly people who just consider themselves Republicans. That’s who DeSantis needs to speak to.
DeSantis doesn’t need to run a GWB 2004 or a Romney 2012 campaign, but he needs to realize the people who voted for both of those candidates still make up a broad swath of the party and are open to a more traditional Republican primary message. Low taxes, smaller government, strong national defense, and a culture of life/traditional values. Even if that group is just 40% of the party, it might be enough in the early states to win.
One thing DeSantis should absolutely do is embrace support for Ukraine. He really started his downtrend when he made those stupid comments to pro-Putin Tucker about Ukraine back in March. And let’s be honest, he made those comments just to make Tucker happy.
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DeSantis needs to tell voters why they should support him. He needs to provide his vision for the country.”
Yep, and his “vision” better be “I am a better Trump than can win”. He needs to be clear he agrees with a lot of what Trump did while President but that HE is the guy who can build on it, because he can win and Trump can’t.
If his vision is “I am a country club Republican and the anti-Trump” he will be a footnote in history.
A shame too, if he implodes a la Jeb. Because contrary to Jeb, he is actually competent and prepared to be President and he can represent the future of the GOP instead of a tired old pandering hack like Jeb.
As far as Ukraine goes, nobody supports Ukraine more than I do. But the Golden Calf, unfortunately, does have to thread the needle on this, there are just too many isolationists in the GOP primary voter pool not to. He should not say he won’t support Ukraine as President, but he does need to emphasize he will seek a solution.
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JeffP
July 10, 2023 at 11:22 am
That would be in January or February.”
Hope springs eternal.
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NEW: @RonDeSantis and Donald Trump focusing on Super Tuesday states as both campaigns prepare for the 2024 long game:
“Nobody else is doing what we’re doing as of this point,” spokeswoman @ErinMPerrine said.
She described the door knocking as a crucial piece of the PAC’s work because when DeSantis’ supporters talk to voters about his personal story — a blue-collar upbringing, serving in the military, his legislative accomplishments — they like what they hear.
“They know the name, but they don’t necessarily know the man,” Perrine said. “We’ve seen that where we show people the man that we take away Trump supporters and that they come over to the DeSantis camp.”
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Trump attacking Kim Reynolds over on Truth Social this morning. His campaign minions will join in soon. Just another example for you bro.
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We’ve seen that where we show people the man that we take away Trump supporters and that they come over to the DeSantis camp.”
That is a good strategy, but I would refrain from calling those you want to “take away” disgusting.
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I have done what I said I didn’t want to do anymore, send political contributions. I know, I had already sent Walker a contribution in GA in 2022, and now I sent the Golden Calf $100. But at least I am doing it as an Indie, not as an R. I might contribute to a couple senate races next year, and maybe to the Golden Calf if he survives. A far cry from what I used to do to help R candidates, but more than nothing. Its not my party anymore, but old habits are hard to break.
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Trump never had much of a ground game, he was horrendously outmatched by Hillary and Biden, and I doubt he is investing much on it now for the primaries. He probably doesn’t think he needs it. So if the Golden Calf can muster a good ground game it could really help him.
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Yeah, I’m about done sending contributions to Republicans like I have in the past. I’ll send small donations to DeSantis, Cruz, Justice in WV should Manchin run again and Republican Senatorial candidates in Ohio and Montana – maybe Nevada if Republicans can find a decent candidate. Nothing to the RNC. That’s would absolutely be money down a rat hole.
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Yes, at this point in the war, Russia would only agree to those terms if it meant that they received all the coast of the Black Sea and the NATO Ukraine was a land-locked rump state. I’m afraid that somehow Russia needs to see more losses in order to agree to something remotely reasonable. I wish there was another way.
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Dan Bongino
@dbongino
There’s absolutely ZERO chance anyone other than a family member brought that cocaine inside the White House complex. No chance that would make it past the mag/security checkpoints. Family bypasses those.
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Your definition of sowing discord is speaking the truth about the Trump campaign.
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Not to mention who is going to smuggle cocaine into the WH and then leave it there, let’s get real. If you have a bag of cocaine in your pocket at the airport do you go up to a narco dog and pet it? Nobody subject to search is going to take cocaine to the WH.
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As in U.S., European Union citizens strongly favor providing military equipment to Ukraine:
“Approval for actions taken by EU countries in response to Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine remains high. According to the poll, 64% of EU citizens support financing the purchase and supply of military equipment to Ukraine. At the same time, 75% approve of financial support to Ukraine, and 72% back economic sanctions on the Russian government, companies, and individuals.”
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I agree with Pence:
“I think it ends by giving the Ukrainians what they need to win, My former running mate likes to talk about solving it in a day. The only way you’d solve this war in a day is if you gave Vladimir Putin what he wanted.”
“And those will be countries where we’d have to send our armed forces to go and fight under our NATO treaty,” Pence said. “And so, I think it’s in the interest of our country to give them what they need to stop them there, repel them there. And make no mistake about it … [it’s] the most effective way to send a message to China that America and the West will not tolerate military aggression by Russia or by China to redraw international lines by force.”
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🇺🇦Ukrainian Front
@front_ukrainian
7m
“⚡️The Armed Forces of 🇺🇦Ukraine will receive a multi-year aid package from NATO, – Alliance Secretary General Stoltenberg
According to him, such a package will allow the Armed Forces of Ukraine to transition from Soviet weapons to NATO standards and meet the level of allies”
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Trump attacks Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds today. He lies about her being behind and takes credit for her huge win…then brags about not inviting her to his rallies. Nothing to see here…he isn’t driving a wedge in the GOP for 2024.
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What poll? Where’s the link?
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Trying to defeat a popular incumbent was always going to be an uphill battle in the primary. I think DeSantis is doing fine. The MSM, Trump and his minions are working overtime lying to derail RDS. His response thus far has been great.
Yes I think Trump is in legal trouble with more coming. Of course it’s a political hit job. Regardless DeSantis is a top tier conservative candidate and can win regardless. He doesn’t need Trumps legal issues to help him win.
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The country is in a race to the bottom if we don’t get the real US president back into office.
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“⚡️The Armed Forces of 🇺🇦Ukraine will receive a multi-year aid package from NATO, – Alliance Secretary General Stoltenberg”
Damm, do a welfare check on JeffP, Jan and Bunu.
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JeffP
July 10, 2023 at 3:07 pm
Trying to defeat a popular incumbent was always going to be an uphill battle in the primary”
LOL
TDS moron comes up with ridiculous moving goalposts strategy but self destructs at the same time.
In the first place he admits Trump is “popular”. Now why would that be, a friend wants to know….
But “incumbent”? No. Trump has been out of office for years, he is no “incumbent”.
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“Approval for actions taken by EU countries in response to Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine remains high. According to the poll, 64% of EU citizens support financing the purchase and supply of military equipment to Ukraine. At the same time, 75% approve of financial support to Ukraine, and 72% back economic sanctions on the Russian government, companies, and individuals.”
Not surprising, despite the pro-Putin propaganda, they understand the threat Russia poses.
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I have told you many times you take things out of context that I post. I will admit I don’t take the time to always clarify nuanced points and use terms open to broad interpretation. Believe what you want.
Incumbent…not in a literal sense…what term would you use? How about former President? Is that acceptable?
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HHR Putin lapdogs really having a bad day…
“Turkey agrees to advance Sweden bid for NATO”
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How about former President? Is that acceptable?”
It is even accurate.
So you have a popular former President. It would seem like defeating him would only be “uphill” if people approved of his presidency. Otherwise why would it be “uphill”?
Keep twisting yourself into a pretzel as you dig a deeper hole. It is what TDS morons do best.
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I will admit I don’t take the time to always clarify nuanced points and use terms open to broad interpretation. ”
LOL
Don’t worry, nobody here thinks you are “nuanced”.
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Judd Legum
@JuddLegum
Trump just gave an interview to The Nevada Globe. The interviewer notes Trump lost Nevada 2x in the general election, and asks how he is going to win this time.
Trump responds by saying he actually won both times “by a lot” and calls Nevada “disgraceful” state.
Great start!
– Now, I understand why Jason fraud is such a huge Trump supporter. Just like conman Donnie, he’s an election denier who believes Trump won in 2020. Heck, as Wes noted, Jason fraud even believed George macaca Allen actually won in 2006.
You guys can tell yourselves fairy tales that Trump is going to win, but that’s all they are. He’s a grievance fueled idiot who can’t accept reality. He’ll spin wild tales after his 2024 loss that he actually won and then we’ll do this all over again in 2028 with him.
So all of you fools who think it’s fine to nominate Trump again have no one to blame but yourselves when he does this for another five or six years.
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Those isolationists are for Trump and they’re only going to be for Trump. The only place the isolationists appear to be a majority is online. The bulk of the party, or at least a sizable portion, are still pro-democracy and in favor of supporting Ukraine. Maybe not a blank check, but certainly in favor seeing Ukraine prevail. That’s who DeSantis needs to target. He’s going to get nowhere trying to peel Trump worshippers away from their hero. His campaign is too online, too much Twitter, and not enough normal/average Republican voter.
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One of the Trump administration greatest achievements. This led to one of my counseling clients sex trafficking Father to be put in Federal prison for life.
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The US government got him sent back from the Netherlands to prosecute him.
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Ben Domenech
@bdomenech
Right wing grievance based politics has been proven not to work. It worked in 2016 when the alternative was Hillary Clinton. Beyond that, it’s totally failed.
– This needs to be shouted from the rooftops. Grievance failed in 2018, 2020, and 2022. It will fail again in 2024. It’s making the party smaller and smaller. Anyone telling your otherwise is clown, a hustler, and a grifter..
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Emerson has trump plus 6 over the Demented Dictator.
By god, he looks awful in England with the king.
Did he lose his cocaine?
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Impeach DeSantis
https://www.mediaite.com/election-2024/poll-desantis-getting-clobbered-by-trump-in-florida-by-more-than-20-points
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https://europa.eu/eurobarometer/surveys/detail/3052
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“Igor Sushko
@igorsushko
The rate of destruction of railroad relay cabinets across Russia is rapidly accelerating. This one happened in Krymsk between Rostov-on-Don and Novorossiysk.
Relay cabinets on the Moscow railroad in Oryol region were also destroyed, halting all rail traffic there.”
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Adding to this Tim Ballard met with DJT in 2018 to discuss the enormity of child trafficking. The president was said to listen attentively and afterwards appointed Ballard to a special task force to counter this trafficking. Headway was made to put trafficking rings out of business, much like the southern border saw an over 80% reduction in illegal crossings. Then Biden came into office and all said progress stopped and went backwards.
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Russian war criminal killed in Russia. Their coming for you too, Putin!
“The captain of a Russian submarine accused by Ukraine of launching “Calibers” at Ukrainian cities was killed in Krasnodar.
According to the SHOT telegram channel, 42-year-old Stanislav Rzhitsky went for a run in the morning and got shot four times in the back and chest by an unknown man waiting for him. The assailant fled the scene.
Rzhitsky died on the spot.”
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Hmmmmm. I wonder if I could ban the most overused and improperly used term in HHR history – grifter.
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No. I will let it go
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@ZaidJilani
A few days after a Ring camera catches several teens in camera confessing to shooting and killing a Lyft driver in Washington, D.C., WIRED says they don’t recommend Ring cameras because they let you easily send video to police.
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DeSantis with a great trash talk reply to Trump. “Chirping” is perfect…a true Jock.
.@KimReynoldsIA is a strong leader who knows how to ignore the chirping and get it done. She earned a landslide re-election because she delivered big results, and she is poised to deliver even more for Iowans in the special session.
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It has been an informative day listening to military analysts not having to comply with government narratives or propaganda.
Lt. Col Tony Shaffer straightforwardly said we have been usurping our armament supplies kept for emergency uses. 41 draws have been made so far,(although he feels it is at least 50), making us far less capable to respond to attacks by China or Russia, should Taiwan be invaded or our proxy war with Russia (because of Ukraine’s intervention) turn into a real war. We basically have no ammunition (Biden confirmed this in a slip of the tongue), our stinger missiles have been depleted and the people with capability to produce more have been pulled out of retirement, as no one else knows how to construct the nose of this missile. The industrial complex to manufacture more armaments has been mostly off shored to China. Coal powered plants capable of making the steel for said weapons have been offed by environmental demands. Finally, if we wanted to manufacture our own weaponry it would take 5 years to build such a facility. IOW, we are as vulnerable as we’ve ever been because of stupid mistakes made by our government in having no long range planning in place for the well being of our own Country.
Should the U.S. ever go down in defeat the fulcrum of what was the free world will be no more. In the meantime, Zelensky is becoming a prima dona, petulantly threatening the. EU and US that he will not attend the NATO meeting unless he is given assurances that he will be admitted into NATO. As for the cluster bombs, when Russia was accused of using them the Biden administration called them “war criminals.” Now that we are supplying them to Ukraine, and the UK and other nations are appealing to us not to do it, we have eliminated the war criminal label entirely. Somewhat hypocritical don’t you think!!!
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Jan is more worried about Ukraine winning than Russia’s vicious invasion that has murdered thousands of Ukrainians. Her tears over poor Russian soldiers falling victim to cluster bombs ignores 2 things.first, Russia is already using cluster bombs against Ukrainian civilians. Second, if Russian troops would get the F out of Ukraine, they won’t be harmed by cluster bombs on the way out. Problem solved.
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That poll was done by the EU not for the EU. It’s like the equivalent of the Biden administration and Democratic Party doing their own polling.
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MSNBC’s Katie Fang: “I still don’t want a Ron DeSantis. I’ll take a Donald Trump over a Ron DeSantis any day. Ron DeSantis is a leaner, meaner Donald Trump.”
A lot of the MSM and Woke Commie Dems feel this way. I guess wanting Trump over RDS is a MSNBC talking point.
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Sucking in polls is impeachable?
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Elect Trump, and impeach the governor
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The right just wants to be rid of DeSantis so just impeach him for whatever the left already wants to impeach him for in Florida.
Not castrating enough children or whatever the left’s latest plan is.
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Whatever craziness is taking place in Russia now may prove that truth is stranger than fiction. The latest speculation:
“Prigozhin capturing Voronezh-45 nuclear storage facility in Russia may be part of the key to the lock that can help explain his decision to suddenly and bizarrely ‘end’ the coup which was succeeding spectacularly. I’ve been trying to figure how Prigozhin can guarantee his own survival after this. This may be it. Moscow may never have been his final destination. Vornezh-45 was. Once he got the nukes, he ended the operations because all objectives were achieved.”
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“Vladimir Osechkin:
1) Putin has lost all credibility and respect/fear from the Russian military and security services.
2) Would not be surprised to see some form of transfer of power in Russia by year-end.”
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A fairly compelling argument on why the Golden Calf should not panic….yet.
https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/07/10/why-all-the-desantis-panic-n563545
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As for the cluster bombs, when Russia was accused of using them the Biden administration called them “war criminals.” Now that we are supplying them to Ukraine, and the UK and other nations are appealing to us not to do it, we have eliminated the war criminal label entirely. Somewhat hypocritical don’t you think!!!
No, you are a Putin stooge moron who can’t think for yourself and let yourself be brainwashed by obvious propaganda.
The Russians are using cluster bombs AGAINST CIVILIANS, which does make them war criminals.
The cluster bombs provided to the Ukrainian military is for use against Russian invading troops who are using them to kill Ukrainians.
Where is the hypocrisy exactly?
GFY.
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we have eliminated the war criminal label entirely”
No, we have not. Russian invaders using cluster bombs against civilians are still war criminals.
And you are still a brainwashed Putin lapdog.
As Bitter points out above, we can resolve the cluster bomb issue immediately where nobody on either side uses them.
Get Russia the f–k out of Ukraine.
But that is a “solution” the Putin cheerleaders don’t want.
They want to call Zelensky a “prima dona” for defending his country.
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We basically have no ammunition (Biden confirmed this in a slip of the tongue), our stinger missiles have been depleted”
More lies by Jan.
Biden was referring to just one type of ammunition, not ALL ammunition.
Stinger missiles? Zzzzzz…
The Stinger is an obsolete weapon the US hadn’t ordered any for its own use in 18 years, and the US had actually deactivated its last manufacturing facility before the war started. Basically the US was producing Stingers at a low rate for foreign sales. The Stinger is no longer considered a “front line” weapon for US troops.
“Right before Ukraine hit, we were going to divest ourselves of Stingers,” a congressional source said.
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“Story so far…There was a mutiny. But it was over in a day. But Russian air force pilots were killed. But no one was arrested. But the Kremlin denounced the mutineers as ‘traitors’. But 5 days later Prigozhin & Wagner commanders were in the Kremlin talking to Putin. All clear?
Thanks for clearing that all up, @BBCSteveR
Analysis. All part of the job.”
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MSNBC’s Katie Fang: “I still don’t want a Ron DeSantis. I’ll take a Donald Trump over a Ron DeSantis any day. Ron DeSantis is a leaner, meaner Donald Trump.”
A lot of the MSM and Woke Commie Dems feel this way. I guess wanting Trump over RDS is a MSNBC talking point.”
Nah, you are an idiot.
The MSM prefers Trump because they think he is easier to beat in the GE. THAT is why he is more “dangerous”. They did the same in 2016 when they carried every Trump rally while giving no other R any air time. Watch them do the same again.
It should be obvious even with your low IQ.
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These are staggering losses. The Russians have more casualties in 15 months than the US had in Vietnam in 10+ years, even considering Vietnam was a much bigger operation involving over half a million troops over several years. Given that the Russians started with 200k troops and then conscripted another 300k, 125k casualties that cannot return to the battlefield is a 25% casualty rate. Even if you only count dead, the 50k number is 10% of the available force. In Vietnam less than 2% of the contingent involved was killed, about 55k out of 3 million.
“A joint investigation carried out by two media organizations and a professor at a German university has offered what may be the most accurate estimate yet of the number of Russians killed and injured in the first 15 months of the war in Ukraine.
Analyzing existing reports about published obituaries, mortality data from the Federal State Statistics Service, and extensive records from the National Probate Registry, we estimate that between 40,000 and 55,000 Russian men under the age of 50 died fighting in Ukraine by May 27, 2023. When factoring in the number of men wounded so seriously that they did not return to military service, Russia’s total casualty count rises to at least 125,000 soldiers, based on our calculations. (This figure does not include missing or captured soldiers or Ukrainian nationals fighting with Russian proxy forces based in Donetsk and Luhansk.)”
No wonder Jan is “concerned” about our aid to Ukraine. It is working.
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I was being sarcastic… It should be obvious even with your low IQ.
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I was disappointed to learn Tucker Carlson will be hosting a candidate forum in Iowa on Friday. First, Tucker should play no role in Republican politics. He’s a Putin simp and an antisemite.
Second, DeSantis’ bad run began when he wrote to Tucker that Ukraine was little more than a territorial dispute. I doubt DeSantis actually believes what he wrote, but he wanted to placate Tucker. That’s a bad idea since Tucker is a clown who promotes Russian propogandist and Russian propogandists like Colonel Douglas MacGregor.
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And in reply to Bitter, Trump is a grifter. He’s in this solely for the money he can make off his simpleton supporters.
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Putin must have done something to piss Erdogan off, or maybe Erdogan decided he doesn’t want to bet on a gimpy horse.
Whatever the reason, I will take it.
“Over the weekend, Erdogan hosted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in Istanbul. During that meeting, he voiced support for Ukrainian membership in NATO and released five Ukrainian commanders who were in Turkish custody and supposed to be interned until the end of hostilities”
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Do you even read my posts, Bitter? Or, do you skim them and then fictionalize their content to fit your own narrative. Please point out where I’m worried about Ukraine winning, or siding with Russia in this proxy war we’ve gotten overly-involved with. I’ve tried to be clear I think anyone deploying cluster bombs is wrong. Long after these bombs have been dropped, unexploded ordinates are scattered around waiting, sometimes for years, to be activated by a child playing nearby and being killed or severely maimed. Are you still going to sanction using these bombs as long as it’s a Russian child being blown to bits and not a Ukrainian one! Sorry, but I have a broader view of of treating humanity in a more human fashion than apparently you do.
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I have no use for Tucker Carlson and agree he is a pro-Putin stooge. But “anti-semite” is a bunch of BS. Same thing when Amoral Scumbag, who has the morals of a floating turd and would sell his mother and sister into sexual bondage if somehow that were bad for Trump, accused him of being an anti-semite. The Jewish people and Israel have no greater friend than Donald Trump.
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First, Tucker should play no role in Republican politics.”
This is BS too. Tucker is welcome and free to play any role he wants whether you disagree with him or not.
I understand Amoral Scumbag only wants country club Rs to play a role in R politics, not the working class “simpletons” as he just put it.
Fortunately, that ship has sailed long ago.
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Regarding Russian staggering losses, and they are indeed staggering, over 200,000 presently in 500 days. The US lost about 58,000 in the decade drawn out Vietnam conflict which really puts Russian losses in perspective. It’s been a blood bath.
I would put Putin’s horrible decision to invade Ukraine right up with Hitler’s decision to invade Russia in the disaster category.
200,000 dead
tens of thousands more wounded
Staggering losses of military equipment which will take years to replace if ever
Sweden and Finland driven into the arms of NATO
Putin couldn’t have made a more horrible decision.
Putin figured he’s invade and intimidate Ukraine into surrendering without a fight. Well, when that didn’t happen he was up sh*t creek without a paddle. He’s totally screwed.
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Brian Stelter
@brianstelter
Collins: “A white nationalist is racist, Senator.”
@SenTuberville: “Well, that’s your opinion.”
– The only reason this bum is in the Senate is because conman Donnie plucked him off the unemployment line to run so Sessions wouldn’t win. And now, we’ve got a Senator who can’t acknowledge that white nationalists are racists.
I’m really looking forward to Jason fraud explaining how Tuberville is right.
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In his first Twitter show, Tucker called Zelensky a “sweaty rat”. That’s long been viewed as an antisemitic remark when applied to Jewish people and Zelensky is Jewish.
Tucker is a conspiratorial antisemite.
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And I understand that Jason fraud only wants mouth breathing populists to play a role in Republican politics. He’s already said the party should abandon the suburbs so it’s no surprise Jason fraud wants to promote a grubby populist.
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Nobody cares.
As far as Sessions, his decision to recuse himself over the laughable Russian collusion hoax is what allowed the whole ridiculous thing to get off the launching pad in the first place. Had the spine of a jellyfish and deserved to have his career ended.
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Been a busy summer…not much time to post. Will get on here more once we get closer to the actual start of caucuses and primaries. Its still way too early to read the polls.
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jan seems to believe that Ukraine is going to use cluster bombs inside of Russia in order to kill Russian children as retaliation. That is a completely ridiculous assertion to be made.
Everyone does seem to be in agreement that Putin is using cluster bombs in Ukraine as an offensive measure. Now, Ukraine intends to use them against the Russian invaders as a defensive measure, inside of Ukraine, not inside of Russia.
jan, if an armed gunman were to break into someone’s home and start shooting, you would have to believe the homeowner should not shoot back because “two wrongs do not make a right.” Is that really what you believe?
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Donnie plucked him off the unemployment line to run so Sessions wouldn’t win.”
Hmmm, I thought all of Trump’s endorsements lost.
Who knew?
Of course Biden has been making racist statements for decades, I have yet to hear Amoral Scumbag whine about any of them.
I would like to see the full context of Tuberville’s interview before I believe anything Brian Stelter says.
Of course, I am not surprised Amoral Scumbag has Brian Stelter as one of his sources…. a guy who was too much of a liar even for MSNBC.
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He’s already said the party should abandon the suburbs”
You have stated this many times.
So I guess it would be easy to find any quote where I said that.
Let’s see it. Or you can just admit you are a lying POS with the morals of a floating turd.
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And I understand that Jason fraud only wants mouth breathing populists to play a role in Republican politics.”
Nah, I want a big tent R party instead of your no working class, no minority tiny tent party.
I think the future of the R party if it wants to remain competitive is as a populist working class party. It doesn’t have to represent me, that is water under the bridge. And it doesn’t have to be “mouth breathing” or even “fire breathing”, which is probably what the moron wanted to say.
GFY.
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I would like to meet a country club Republican. I still have not. Maybe the crew on Oak Island can find one near me when they find the other treasure.
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The Russians are using cluster bombs AGAINST CIVILIANS, which does make them war criminals.
You’re right. Russians are war criminals for invading first Crimea, then Ukraine, and using cluster bombs to accelerate their take down of Ukraine. The very nature of cluster bombs is they don’t zero in on any specific target. Instead, they send ordinates, indiscriminately, everywhere on anybody, making them a hideous weapon to:use in warfare, which is why so many countries have banned their use. Saying because Russia drops them on their enemies gives permission for the USA, via Ukraine, to do the same does not provide a justified excuse.
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Zzzzz…. Everyone understands what “country club R” means, Bitter is pretending you have to belong to a country club.
But I will play along and pretend he doesn’t know and send a definition. There are others but you get the idea.
“Country Club Republican” also known as a “Country Club Conservative” or “Establishment Republican” is an expression employed, usually pejoratively, to describe certain members of the Republican Party in the United States. Some of the characteristics attributed to country club Republicans are higher than average income or inherited wealth, hailing from politically or socially prominent families, fiscally conservative opinions but with liberal, moderate or indifferent views on social issues such as abortion, censorship, and gay rights.They are more likely to have attended prestigious colleges and universities than other Republican Party members.”
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“Usually pejorative”….. LOL
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Biden is not targeting whistleblowers? Notice how quiet Goober the Ukrainian bomber and Biden’s Beotch are? What about pious Quittens?
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Do we even have an opposition party in the Senate? More useless senators like Goober and Biden’s beotch and Quittens
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Catturd
@catturd2
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Unreal – now Biden and his crooked DOJ are not only arresting their political opponents but also whistleblowers who expose their crimes.
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I know the definition. I also know that to be associated with a country club, you have to actually be a member of a country club. In English, words have meaning. Maybe Qu’chua is more flexible. Country Club Democrat is more accurate.
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Elections have consequences
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Tgca hardest hit….
“Disney World in Orlando is suffering – here it is nearly mid-July, schools are out, families are on vacation, and the streets at Disney are just about empty!”
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Matt Gaetz leads charge to let FISA expire, end illegal surveillance of US citizens
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/matt-gaetz-fisa-surveillance-citizens?intcmp=tw_fnc
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Remember when Bushie said it wouls not target citizens. Another lie by mute 43
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Cluster bombs kill indiscriminately. It’s not a weapon used to aim at one specific target, So, men, women and “children” are subject to being part of its collateral damage calculus. Arm chair warriors, though, don’t like to consider the broader more sordid scope of warfare.
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Disneyworld will hurt the fl economy. It’s their fault. Too many price hikes, poor content, and woke.
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jan, you really need to better yourself. What you are saying is totally illogical. You manufacture a claim that “Russian children” are at risk from,these bombs. That clearly is not the case.
There is a risk perhaps to Ukrainian children and civilians, but they are already at risk because Russia is trying to kill them, purposefully. What you are suggesting is that Ukraine should just let them be killed by Russia, instead of trying to get the people who are actively trying to kill them to leave, which logically may involve having to kill those invaders.
On this matter, you sound completely like a radical anti-gun left wing nut who does not understand the concept of “self-defense.”
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https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-military-deaths-facd75c2311ed7be660342698cf6a409
According to a new detailed statistical report 50,000 Russian lives have been lost in their war with Ukraine. Just today NATO refused Ukraine’s application to join NATO. This resulted in a “blistering” response from Zelenskyy chastising their decision. I think Germany’s lack of support was a critical element in making that decision. Zelenskyy would be wise not to throw too much of a hissy fit at the hands who constantly feed him.
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jan, you are suggesting that Ukraine is wrong to defend itself by killing Russians who invaded their country? if so, why?
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I wonder where Tgca is pushing his conservative message of hating landlords, hating white people, hating straight people and supporting butchery of children.
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On Tuesday, the Iowa evangelical group The Family Leader announced Trump was skipping its Friday leadership summit, making conspicuous the former president’s absence at a forum in Des Moines where six other Republican primary candidates will be interviewed by former Fox personality Tucker Carlson.”
Probably an unforced error. Not only is Iowa an early state in the primary season, he would have probably gotten a cream puff interview from Tucker.
He is picking a fight with evangelicals and a popular Governor in Iowa. Golden opportunity for the Golden Calf.
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Zelensky may have protested, but he knows he got what Ukraine wanted. NATO cannot make Ukraine a member with an active war going on. Once there is a settlement, Ukraine is in NATO.
The NATO summit was a disaster for Putin. Sweden joins Finland as a NATO member. Turkiye has turned on Putin.
A Ukrainian blogger summarized the last 500 days.
“Anton Gerashenko
It seemed improbable to the rest of the world 500 days ago.
Last February, Western researchers gave Ukraine only 3 days in a confrontation with Russia in a full-scale war. But we survived and have been fighting for freedom and independence for more than 500 days now.
I wanted to remind us all of some fait accomplis that many people (to be honest, Ukrainians, as well!) would have found hard to believe in the beginning of the full-scale invasion.
🇺🇦 Ukraine has applied for EU membership and received candidate status.
🇺🇦 Ukraine did not lose any regional capitals, de-occupied its territories and liberated Kherson.
🇺🇦 Ukrainians received almost the entire range of Western weaponry: from Stingers to HIMARS, Leopards and other tanks, long-range missiles. F-16s and ATACMS are ahead.
🇷🇺 Russian ruble first devalued to 150 per dollar, then puffed back to 50, only to fall back to almost 100.
🇷🇺 Russia received more sanctions than Iran and North Korea combined.
🇺🇦 Ukrainians sank the “Moskva”.
🇺🇦 Ukrainians inflicted the largest losses in history on an enemy flotilla without taking their own ships out of their ports at all.
🇺🇦 Ukrainians put the Kerch bridge out of action. It took the invaders six months to fix it.
🇺🇦 Ukrainians experienced the longest blackout in Europe.
🇺🇦 Ukraine greatly increased consumption of electricity from alternative sources.
🇺🇦 Ukraine learned how to shoot down “Kinzhal” and “Inskander” missiles, which no one had done before and which were believed to be impossible to shoot down.
🇷🇺 An international arrest warrant was issued for Putin. He dug himself even deeper into his bunker and increased his staff of doubles.
🇷🇺 Russian parade for 9 May on Red Square in Moscow was held with 1 tank.
🇷🇺 Russian unidentified drones have been destroying targets all over European part of Russia, and even striking the Kremlin.
🇷🇺 Russian volunteer forces are liberating Russian settlements and showing that the Russian “border is open”.
🇺🇦 Patriots and other air defense systems are protecting the skies above Kyiv.
🇺🇦 There are more trenches than holidaymakers in occupied Crimea.
🇷🇺 Russia experienced its first attempt at an armed rebellion – Moscow has dangled on the brink of regime change.
🇷🇺 The most combat-ready group of the enemy – Wagner PMC – is withdrawn from the battlefield for good.
🇺🇦 Ukraine now has more tanks in service than Russia.
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Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
NEW: Statement from President Trump opposing Joe Biden’s irresponsible and dangerous plan to send cluster munitions to Ukraine. Instead of trying to prolong this war and drag us into World War 3 like Biden is doing, Trump is calling for an immediate peace deal.
– Oh, look. It’s conman Donnie siding with Putin. Yet, some of you will say the fate of America depends on Trump getting elected.
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I also know that to be associated with a country club, you have to actually be a member of a country club.”
Zzzzz… nobody said anything about being “associated” with a country club.
The term Country Club Republican doesn’t mean you are a member of a country club, it means a certain TYPE of Republican.
Under Bitter’s stupid definition, you couldn’t use the term Soccer Mom unless a woman had a kid actually playing soccer.
In English, words have meaning\”
Yep, and you are trying to ignore the meaning. You know what a Country Club Republican definition is meant to mean.
“Latte liberals” don’t actually have to drink lattes. “Limousine liberals” don’t actually have to have a limousine.
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You’ve become way too online. Tuberville is a clown. He spent a good ten minutes on CNN defending white nationalists. Outside the fever swamps of populist nationalism and the cult of conman Donnie, that is a very unpopular opinion. But you do you.
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I understand your view, but this sounds like me eight years ago when I was trying to rationalize poor old Jeb’s decline.
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DeSantis’s campaign strategy is failing. He is not only falling in the polls, but also in the predicted delegate count – now a little over 400. He was even booed at an election function in Iowa when his name was brought up. IMO, his biggest problem is his lack of personable behavior. This coming weekend all candidates were invited to speak at the biggest summer TPUSA event in Florida, a gathering of grass roots, mainly youth. DeSantis declined the invitation, maybe because FOX has turned its back on the populous wing of the R party, telling all their employees they couldn’t attend this event. Since FOX is endorsing DeSantis, he has become basically an employee of their’s, following Murdock’s requests.
Now, there seems to be a retooling of his campaign, putting some of his staffers in the background and giving his wife, Casey, a higher profile and voice. DeSantis is also being called to the Hamptons to meet with his donors to explain the state of his campaign. Things can change, and the tide could turn. However, I think DeSantis needs to depend more on himself to get out there in as many public places as possible, leaving consultants and even his wife more in the back seat.
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I watched a replay of the interview on CNN with Kaitlan Collins. There was no context needed. He spent ten minutes claiming white nationalists aren’t racists. After the interview was over, Scott Jennings, a Republican strategist, said it was an odd hill for Tuberville to die on.
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My posts have applied to the usage of cluster bombs, of which I am criticizing the Biden Administration for supplying something they earlier called Russia a “war criminal” for deploying. Please don’t distort what I am saying.
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Trump wants Russia to win
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jason
July 11, 2023 at 12:21 pm
Nah, I want a big tent R party instead of your no working class, no minority tiny tent party.
– No, you don’t. You want a party that solely supports Trump and his repugnant acolytes. Anytime a Republican dares to say something that might not be totally submissive to conman Donnie, you gather the pitchforks and torches and try and run that person out.
You flipped on Mitt Romney like the little b!tch you are because he dared to not grovel at conman Donnie’s feet. And I guarantee you that you will flip on Ukraine and Putin the moment Trump becomes the nominee and says the populist Republican Party should side with Putin.
You’re a useful idiot and you always have been. You claimed the election was stolen from George Allen in 2006; you believed McCain would win because of the Bradley Effect and the laughable delbov curve; you believed in poll skewing in 2012; and you believed that Trump really won in 2020 and Pence should have unilaterally overturned the election results.
You’re a clown who wants Trump and only Trump.
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I anxiously await Jason fraud’s upcoming defense of Trump saying Ukraine should not get cluster bombs. It’s coming. We all know it. He’s just got to figure how to twist himself into yet another pretzel to defend it.
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Also, Ron DeSantis is unlikely to express one word of disagreement with Trump in wanting Ukraine to surrender to Russia.
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Jonathan Martin
@jmart
trump 2024: tougher on kim reynolds than vladimir putin
– Jason fraud pumps his fist in the air, wipes the drool from his mouth, and grunts “MAGA”.
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jan, do you seriously not understand the difference between aggression and self-defense?
it is a crime to shoot someone on the street. Those people should be prosecuted. It is not a crime to shoot someone in self-defense. Those people are typically lauded.
You ought to be very grateful for Mr. Zelensky for what he and his people are doing.
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jan, you seem to be criticizing Ukraine for having killed 50, 000 Russians (according to this report) before the cluster bombs?
So, clearly you have a problem with Ukraine unrelated to cluster bombs.
Why?
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⚡️Allies have agreed on the wording regarding the integration of 🇺🇦Ukraine into NATO, – Biden.
“This is a very important, critical moment for Ukraine and the issue of NATO, which you continue to strive for… We agreed on the wording that you proposed, which are related to Ukraine’s accession to NATO,” the US president said in a joint speech with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg.
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Vladimir Putin knows that all he has to do is hold on maintain the status quo in Russia until the election in case Trump wins as Trump will immediately pull the plug on any support for Ukraine. That plan is clear from the statement Trump released today.
Those who think that Ron DeSantis would somehow differ from Trump on this are setting themselves up for disappointment, unless he engages in a massive flip-flop.
There are Republican candidates who support Ukraine defending itself but as of now, they appear highly unlikely to be nominated.
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Not only does Trump attack Biden for providing cluster bombs, but he demands there be an immediate peace deal between Ukraine and Russia. Putin can take solice that after being abandoned by so many of his former allies, and almost overthrown, Trump is still loyal.
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jason and President Paul are meeting right now to prepare their response.
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I anxiously await Jason fraud’s upcoming defense of Trump saying Ukraine should not get cluster bombs.”
LOL
It must suck to be Amoral Scumbag with the morals of a floating turd.
If Amoral Scumbag had just scrolled up a little he would have seen my position on cluster bombs to Ukraine.
Poor bastard with another epic fail.
Suck it…
jason
July 9, 2023 at 11:52 am
Zzzzzz….so it is only ok if Putin uses cluster bombs in Ukraine? He is the real war criminal.
Add me to the list of those “delighted”. Give the Russians a taste of their own medicine.
How about cruise missiles fired into populated areas? Does jan have any objections to that as a “war crime”? Or the displacement of 10 million people? Or the killing, rapee,torture and forced exile of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians? Are those war crimes?
Jan is like JeffP, she is adamantly against anything that impedes her hero Putin from slaughtering more Ukrainians.”
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You can substitute “Donald Trump” for “jan” at every part of that post. To be pro-Trump is to be pro-janzam
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you believed McCain would win because of the Bradley Effect and the laughable delbov curve; you believed in poll skewing in 2012; and you believed that Trump really won in 2020 and Pence should have unilaterally overturned the election results.”
A lot of lies. I said any election where a Dem wins a senate race by 7k votes like Allen lost could be fraud, I never said he “won”. Nobody ridiculed poll skewing and mocked Polaris more than I did. I do believe Trump won AZ, GA, and WI in 2020 which would have given him the election because there is no way there wasn’t enough fraud to overcome 42k votes in those 3 states. But I have always said here I thought Pence did the right thing on Jan 6, I have dozens of posts to prove it.
GFY.
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You flipped on Mitt Romney”
Hilarious. No, I didn’t flip on Romney. I supported him for President until the very end.
You were the one who said you would celebrate Obama’s win after regurgitating every anti-Romney lie from the MSM. You attacked his wife, his dog, his business, his honor, his family his religion, his horse, his car, his elevator you name. Nothing was too low or despicable.
But when he became a TDS moron, suddenly you LOVED him.
Who flipped, Amoral Scumbag?
And we know you are already flipping on the Golden Calf, who you call a clown, a total bum and a Trump clone, just in case he actually gets on the ballot. The criticisms of his campaign already started, so you have an excuse when you declare you will vote for the Dem as usual.
You are slimy scum. Trump has 100 time more integrity than you will ever have, whatever his faults.
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No, you don’t. You want a party that solely supports Trump and his repugnant acolytes.”
Amoral Scumbag is a fluent liar but that one takes the cake.
Nobody advocates for a bigger tent R party here than I do. I think the R to survive needs to bring in blue collar/working class voters, small business owners, minorities who want to get ahead in ALL areas including suburbs and inner cities and the exurb dwellers which are the fastest growing demographic in the US. This does not in any way exclude the suburbs but the traditional winning coalition for Rs (suburban + rural vs urban + blue collar + minority) no longer exists. Without a heavy working class vote and increased inroads into minorities like Blacks and Hispanics the R party won’t survive as a national party.
You are the one who wants a tiny tent elitist suburban based party that excludes working class/blue collar voters and minorities because you think you are better than them.
IF I wanted a party that solely supports Trump why do I support the Golden Calf for the nomination?
Tough one, heh?
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It is so easy to prove Amoral Scumbag a liar….. let’s see
‘and you believed that Trump really won in 2020 and Pence should have unilaterally overturned the election results.”
Not quite.
jason says:
June 7, 2023 at 8:55 pm
I agreed that Pence did not have the power to institute Trump as President, even though I agree that the election was stolen.
I understand the frustration that goes along with an illegitimate election. But it does not justify violence against police officer or damaging public property, if they had marched to the Capitol without invading I would be 100% supportive.”
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Where is stoner? How special council for Biden’s admission that we need to give thr grifter cluster bombs because we are “running out of ammo.”
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I don’t know what reason Biden has for giving cluster bombs to Ukraine. The right reason is of course that the Russians are using them against civilians and the Ukrainians need them against the Russian invaders.
Frankly as long as Ukraine gets the ammunition I only care that it’s the right thing to do.
Tina would be against giving BB guns to the Ukrainians if she thought it would keep Russians from slaughtering Ukrainians.
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KAMALA HARRIS: “This issue of transportation is fundamentally about just making sure that people have the ability to get where they need to go!”
She does have a higher IQ than Amoral Scumbag, but who can crow about that?
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repugnant acolytes.”
Hey JeffP, Amoral Scumbag has a new description for working class voters.
Be sure to borrow it, would be a refreshing change from “disgusting”.
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It won’t be too long before Jason fraud contorts himself enough to suggest maybe Jackson Hincklle is right and the world does need Staling or someone like him.”
I feel bad, I don’t know who Jackson Hincklle or Staling are, I will be honest that I never heard of either one.
Are they related to Nick Fuentes? I never had heard of him either until Amoral Scumbag breathlessly declared that his presence at a Mar El Lago dinner was certainly the end of Trump.
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CBS in make you vomit mode…Biden’s “grandfatherly appeal and warmth and wisdom”
Geezus
“You really saw that Biden was putting his arm around Zelenskyy, encouraging him to continue to lead as if suggesting, ‘I got your back,’” Fix said. “It’s a grandfatherly appeal, and the warmth and wisdom from his age seems to transfer.”
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“The future of Ukraine is in NATO”
⚡️A few more statements from the final NATO communique:
— The peace in the Euro-Atlantic region is broken. The russian federation violated the norms and principles that contributed to the creation of a stable and predictable European security order;
— Alliance leaders fully support Ukraine’s right to choose its own security mechanisms. The future of Ukraine is in NATO;
— The deepening of the military integration of the russian federation with Belarus, including the deployment of advanced russian military forces and assets and military personnel in Belarus, has consequences for the regional stability and defense of the Alliance.
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🤡 We were amazed at the speed with which Sweden and Finland gave up their neutral status, — Lavrov
“This status has given them a lot over the decades. They refused special trade relations with the Russian Federation. The speed of joining NATO forces us to look for the reason in the subordinate position in which the United States has placed Finland and Sweden,” said the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry.
Lavrov noted that the neutral status also created the reputation of Finland and Sweden, which do not exist now.
😆😆😆😴😴😴
#RussiaIsLosing #NATOSummit
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The difference is no one wanted Jeb. At least DeSantis is more than a blip on the radar.
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I wonder if Milli Vanilli agrees that we are out of ammo. The Ccp and Pooty poot love this,
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No sunrise, she is a lunatic. She speaks for the others who are silent.
NBC News asked most of the 2024 GOP presidential campaigns Monday for comment to gauge where other candidates stand on the munitions issue.
Only former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley responded, she said she supports the decision.”
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Tina, Putin has been deliberately targeting civilian targets in Ukraine. It is some of the worst attacks on civilians since the Nazis. Putin has even been indicted for war crimes. Yet I have never once seen you criticize him for his criminal butchery:
“Kyiv — A Russian missile strike on a crowded pizza restaurant in Ukraine killed at least nine people, including three children, and left dozens more injured, officials said Wednesday. Twisted metal and concrete is all that remained of the popular restaurant in the eastern city of Kramatorsk after two missiles slammed into the building the previous evening as people had dinner.
Two sisters, both 14, were killed”
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SDC – GFY. Tina gave Putin a nickname.
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MAGA has not helped the GOP cause in Arizona or Michigan on state level.
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More escalation….. now the Ukrainians are killing Russians just because they fired missiles into populated areas. There will be no peace until Ukrainians allow themselves to be slaughtered without resorting to such escalations.
“The commander of the “Krasnodar” submarine, which was used to launch “Kalibr” missiles at Ukraine, has been killed in Krasnodar
An unknown person shot Stanislav Rzhitsky, the 42-year-old deputy head of the city’s department for mobilization work, four times in the back and chest; he died on the spot, pro-Kremlin channels reported.
Rzhitsky was a captain of the 2nd rank and commander of the submarine Krasnodar. He is suspected of launching “Kalibr” missiles in the center of Vinnytsia on July 14, 2022, which killed 23 people.”
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We were amazed at the speed with which Sweden and Finland gave up their neutral status, — Lavrov”
I think the Swedes and Finns were amazed at the speed in which Putin is trying to recreate the Soviet Union.
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I am becoming less interested in politics as each year passes by.
Facing a sure defeat in 2016 I rejoiced when Trump narrowly beat a unlikable HRC in 2016. I was relieved and chuckle now that a shady real estate mogul and reality TV show star appointed 3 SCOTUS judges. As the FU to the establishment candidate Trump was a breath of fresh air from the boring and establishment Bush, McCain and Romney days.
Trump has exposed more obviously what we already knew. Our DC system, media and big business is corrupted at the highest levels. However, his appointments and 2020 showed to me he was in over his head. Since 2016 each election cycle has been a huge disappointment and the electoral map is almost impossible for 2024. The GOP chair and leadership is a joke and Trump remains polarizing as ever. Not a whole lot to get excited about. Au revoir.
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“The future of Ukraine is in NATO”
Fabulous!
Now let’s wait for one of the HHR Putin Stooges to go “””buhhhh…… Putin has nukes!”
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CNN’s Fareed Zakaria to Biden: “You’ve been a great president.”
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Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT
Rupert Murdoch tells people he hopes Gov Glenn Youngkin will enter the presidential race.
@NickNehamas and me on Murdoch empire not quite so supportive of DeSantis anymore.
– A couple of thoughts.
1. Talk about Youngkin has everything to do with DeSantis’ flagging prospects.
2. If he wants to run, time’s a wasting. He probably has until September to enter.
3. He is precisely the kind of candidate pre-Trump Republicans would support.
4. He would be a great fundraiser and probably get a lot of the Romney donor network.
That said, I have seen no evidence Youngkin is serious about running. Yes, whispers have suggested he might try and do so after Virginia’s elections, but November would be too late. He would have already missed ballot access in several states so that’s a nonstarter.
I do, however, think, if Youngkin wants to run, now is his time. His name is hot and the issues that propelled him to the governorship are the ones that continue to dominate the party. I think he would have a much easier time attracting the 60% to 65% of the party that’s open to moving on from Trump. I can’t see him wasting his time trying to get to the right of Trump like DeSantis has.
Also in favor of a run is the fact that Youngkin is term limited. In 2028, he’ll have been out of the governor’s office for three years. And without a Senate seat that’s prime for the taking, the only option is probably to run now. If he waits, his moment will almost certainly have passed just as Christie found out in 2016.
I would gladly and eagerly support Youngkin just as I do DeSantis, Scott, Pence, and Haley. I want someone who can beat Trump. I don’t know if Youngkin can, though. Like the others, he would have to be willing to confront Trump on the issues. I don’t know if he would.
Regardless, I don’t think he’s going to run.
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The chances of Amoral Scumbag actually voting for Youngkin are lower than me winning the Powerball.
Note he is already bailing out on the Golden Calf’s “flagging prospects”. Soon he will be asking for the Golden Calf’s campaign manager to be fired, then will start attacking the candidate’s positions, etc. Same M.O. every election. Of course no one with half a brain believed he actually supported someone he calls a “clown, a total bum and a Trump clone” while endorsing a drug addict communist for Governor of Florida.
The moral compass of a floating turd.
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He is precisely the kind of candidate pre-Trump Republicans would support.”
LOL
Bring back the Whigs!
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Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX): “I rise today as a clear recipient of affirmative action, particularly in higher education.”
Who is going to argue with that?
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jason
July 12, 2023 at 10:28 am
Note he is already bailing out on the Golden Calf’s “flagging prospects”.
– I was only acknowledging the polling realities. Right now, it looks highly unlikely that DeSantis will be the nominee. That’s not bailing. That’s just recognizing where things stand today.
If DeSantis is still in the race when the primary rolls around to Kentucky, I’ll vote for him.
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jason
July 12, 2023 at 10:30 am
He is precisely the kind of candidate pre-Trump Republicans would support.”
– I know this is hard for you to understand since Trump is your hero, but I guarantee you, in a general election matchup against Biden, Youngkin would get than the 46.8% Trump got nationally in 2020.
But remember, according to Jason fraud, an election denier, Trump totally won in 2020.
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MSNBC’s @morningmika
to Biden’s staff: “Do a better job b/c you can’t have these video images of the president tripping or the president like going to wrong way … b/c his age is going to be factor … It makes me mad.”
Maybe they can find the fountain of youth for him.
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I was only acknowledging the polling realities. ”
Hmmm….. didn’t you say ignore the national polls showing Trump ahead and concentrate on the state polls?
Or was that before Trump started trashing the Golden Calf in state polls too.
Hard to keep track when you are dealing a lying POS who makes Donald Trump look like a paragon of virtue.
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Contrary to Amoral Scumbag, I would actually vote for Youngkin in the GE, while he would vote for Biden.
But Youngkin does not have the appeal, the organization or the record to compare to the Golden Calf. His path to the nomination is even more difficult. At most he could maybe garner some delegates that he could later pass on to whomever comes second to Trump.
At the moment I think Trump is a shoo-in to have the most delegates but I am not convinced he will get a majority. Few of the delegates of the other candidates will switch to him given the polarization and his attacks on their candidate.
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jason
July 12, 2023 at 10:44 am
Hmmm….. didn’t you say ignore the national polls showing Trump ahead and concentrate on the state polls?
– Yeah, and DeSantis is getting crushed in the state polls right now. I wish it wasn’t the case because I despise Trump, but that’s the reality.
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Jason fraud, an election denier, is petrified of the likelihood that the bulk of the Republican Party, not just the base, is not populist. He doesn’t want anyone to find that out. He can’t afford for that to be the case or for a candidate like Youngkin or Scott or Pence or Haley to expose it because it would mean the last seven years of him Trump simping would have been all for naught.
Jason fraud is not smart. He’s a frontrunner. He’s the pilot fish that swims behind the shark’s mouth hoping to get a few scraps. When Trump looked like a disaster in 2015 and 2016, Jason fraud opposed conman Donnie ever day of the campaign and mocked those who defended Trump. Then as soon as Trump accidentally won (yes, it was an accident), he flipped and became the biggest Trump worshipper and enforcer there was at HHR. Not even dblaikie and his “First Church of Trump” could compete with the fraud.
Now, Jason fraud attacks anyone who dares to suggest the party is composed totally of mouth breathing populists and the only way to win is to kiss Trump’s feet. That’s why Jason fraud loves DeSantis’ ill-conceived strategy (just look at the polling) to get to the right of Trump. He knows it won’t work (Jason fraud is a Trump supporter) and it prevents anyone who can actually win from tapping into the 65% or so who don’t think Charlie Kirk is the new Charles Krauthammer.
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Why did Rupert flip on Desantis? Was it one of the bimbos telling him to flip?
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Reports are up to 26000 Ukrainians killed as part of this offensive. Hope the warmongers are happy.
Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
NATO pushed Zelensky into committing a summer offensive that ended in disaster that his own military commanders disavowed knowing full well that NATO membership for Ukraine was never on the table
3:23 AM · Jul 12, 2023
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Is faux going to promote younkin over Rds? Faux continues to bleed audience. What a sheot show.
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Tina calls those who support Ukraine fighting to regain UKRAINE’S territory warmongers. No condemnation of Putin seizing it. No proposal to end the war other than Ukrainian surrender. Pathetic.
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It’s pathetic thst you want this horror to continue.
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Congratulations to Wes on completing radiology treatment for his cancer. Hopefully, surgery can remove the tumor.
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At least you admit it is horrible. You just don’t admit Russia is solely responsible for it and could end the war immediately by leaving Ukraine.
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Best wishes to Wes on his treatment and for full recovery
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Jason fraud is not smart. He’s a frontrunner. He’s the pilot fish that swims behind the shark’s mouth hoping to get a few scraps.”
Original. Should be worth something, huh Bitter?
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Ditto
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Now, Jason fraud attacks anyone who dares to suggest the party is composed totally of mouth breathing populists”
Zzzzz…. who “suggested” that?
What a moron.
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Reports are up to 26000 Ukrainians killed as part of this offensive. Hope the warmongers are happy.”
“Reports”……zzzzzzz..
And btw, dying to repel invaders from your own country is not warmongering.
Funny how Tina never calls the Russian invaders warmongers. Just her endearment to her hero and icon “Pooty Poot”.
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DeSantis’ ill-conceived strategy”
And so it starts…
I am prescient.
Not really, I know we see the same movie every election.
Hey Phil, predicting Amoral Scumbag would soon find an excuse abandon the Golden Calf was the easiest prediction we ever made. 100% certainty of happening.
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It’s pathetic thst you want this horror to continue.”
Translation: Ukraine needs to surrender now to stop the “horror”.
Must be a secret message Pooty Poot sent to Tina.
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hat’s why Jason fraud loves DeSantis’ ill-conceived strategy (just look at the polling) to get to the right of Trump.”
The Golden Calf is not running to the “right of Trump”, he is running as a mainstream conservative. His positions are those that traditionally conservatives believe in. Trump is running as he always ran, as an opportunist who says what he thinks his supporters want to hear. Trump is not a conservative, never was, so the fact he is “to the left” of the Golden Calf is no surprise.
I am not surprised that Amoral Scumbag is critical of the Golden Calf’s positions, considering he is neither a conservative or a Republican and supported Obama, Hillary and Biden for President (not to mention Avenatti).
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Seems like the Dems are worried that Manchin might run as a “No labels” third party candidate.
No sure how this would damage Biden. The theory is he would still win big in blue strongholds like CA, NY, IL, etc. but Manchin would take enough votes from Biden in states like WI, PA, NH, MN, CO, AZ etc to ensure the R wins.
I don’t know any Dem that would vote for Biden. Certainly Amoral Scumbag would still vote for Biden.
I don’t think anybody here who is a conservative or R would vote for Manchin.
I am somewhat skeptical Manchin would ensure Biden’s loss. What say you geniuses?
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“President Joe Biden’s green agenda for the auto industry is set to shift billions in wealth away from American workers to multinational corporations, a new report from the United Auto Workers (UAW) details”
What a surprise!
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And it’s pathetic you support Putin.
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Did Wes email you this, or did he post it in this forum? Either way, it’s great news for him.
I hope he posts here regularly.
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As should be plainly clear, Trump wants Russia to defeat Ukraine and would work to make that happen. All the criticism of the people who post here regarding Ukraine and Russia applies to Trump (and also to DeSantis.) Some have said it is disqualifying for their vote. It definitely should be.
If the choices are Trump, Biden, and Manchin, voting for Manchin would easily be the best alternative.
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jason
July 12, 2023 at 1:19 pm
DeSantis’ ill-conceived strategy”
And so it starts…
– You’ve never been able to accept that supporters can still be critical of their preferred candidate’s decisions. Should I not criticize the coaches or the players of my favorites teams when they perform poorly?
And yes, it’s an ill-conceived strategy for DeSantis to try and get to Trump’s right. None of Trump’s supporters are ever going to break away from him so DeSantis is wasting his time courting people who will never vote for him.
The fertile ground for DeSantis is the 60% to 65% of the party that has shown an interest in moving past Trump. No one is speaking to this group, though. Not DeSantis, not Pence, not Scott, and not Haley.
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Hutchinson, Hurd, and Christie are. All unlikely to be nominated, but that can be said right now about everyone else as well, including DeSantis. It just needs to be pointed out that it is not “no one” who is speaking unequivocally about dumping Trump.
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jason
July 12, 2023 at 1:28 pm
The Golden Calf is not running to the “right of Trump”, he is running as a mainstream conservative.
– DeSantis is not running as a mainstream conservative. Pence and Scott are, but DeSantis isn’t. He’s running as a populist hoping to pick off Trump supporters. There’s a huge difference. He has made no effort to court the other 60% to 65% of the party. Everything is “Trump was really good, but I can do it better”. Well, why buy new coke when I can have the original?
Right now, DeSantis is serving as a “parking lot” for Republicans who want to move on from Trump, but aren’t sure where to go. Many of his supporters, like me, believe he has the best chance to stop Trump, but can switch to another candidate if that person provides a legitimate, viable alternative.
The reason DeSantis hasn’t grown his vote share is he’s not speaking to a broad swath of the party. And it’s for that reason why Youngkin’s name gets tossed around from time to time as well as Kemp’s name.
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But to matter and capitalize on the large swatch of voters who have shown interest in moving on from Trump, they have to believe that candidate has a legitimate shot. Hutchison, Hurd, and Christie have not shot so the voters are just ignoring them.
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A whole bunch of people, both in the field, and not currently in the field, have more growth potential than DeSantis. Any anti-Trump Republican thinking DeSantis is their savior is wasting their time. As you have pointed out, his plan is to be more Trump than Trump.
Neither Trump nor DeSantis can win a general election. Honest people concede that about Trump and seem fine with that. If DeSantis were to be nominated, Trump would effectively endorse Biden out of spite, and thus DeSantis would do even worse in a general election loss than Trump would.
So, either something happens to allow someone else to break through, which right now seems unlikely, and Democrats get four more years, which is what MAGA really wants, because it allows them to complain about how horrible America is. That is the reality we live in. There is no universe where Ron DeSantis is going to be President.
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I think DeSantis could beat Biden, but your point about Trump is very fair. He would try and torpedo DeSantis, but I also think Trump would try and torpedo anyone else out of spite. And to be clear, he’ll do the same in 2028 since I think he’ll run again them as well. So might as well try and deal with him now.
I think DeSantis has a very small window to turn his campaign around, a month or two at the most, and it would almost certainly include major staff changes and bringing in people who have real experience in presidential campaigns. However, I don’t think DeSantis will change his staff. I think he thinks it would look weak.
That leaves someone like Youngkin deciding to run and jumping into the race. I don’t for a moment think it will happen, but Mid-October is the filing deadline for Nevada so there’s your drop-dead date for that kind of talk.
And even if Youngkin, as an example, did run, I think he’d run into the same problem the other candidates have had. I doubt he’d be willing to confront Trump in any substantive way. It’s possible Republicans won’t get a chance to nominate someone not named Trump until 2032.
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https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4091106-national-popular-vote-scheme-would-relegate-michigan-to-irrelevance/
Another way to manipulate the electoral system.
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An interesting article about the factions in the GOP.
https://thespectator.com/politics/gop-tribal-warfare-trump-desantis-2024/
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Nobody is going to be getting into the field “late” and start winning primaries and delegates at a sufficient amount. The era of that being possible in Presidential politics is wrong.
The only thing that could possibly happen is that someone, for whatever reason, is jettisoned as a candidate and someone else either gets chosen on the convention floor or is picked by the RNC later on in the general election as a replacement candidate. All of this is what Tim Scott, for instance, is banking on. It is is complete rationale. That he gets turned to as the compromise candidate. You can have Youngkin and Kemp in the conversation at that point as well. They are not headed to Iowa or New Hampshire or South Carolina.
All of this is pretty unprecedented, but so is a de facto nominee that is almost certainly headed to prison and almost certainly will be seen as completely out of reach of winning a general election.
However, for his acolytes, they are fine with that. They are fine with losing. It’s what makes them pure. Winning is for suckers. They can just pretend it was stolen and say they won anyway. It makes things easier than actually winning.
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his plan is to be more Trump than Trump.”
I think that SHOULD be his plan. He needs to run as a better Trump that can win. Hopefully he will embrace that concept.
No “anti-Trump” candidate is going to win the nomination, that is TDS nonsense.
Also, Anonymous is full of crap, Trump is not going to endorse Biden. If he loses the nomination to the Golden Calf, the Golden Calf is his best hope for a pardon, not Biden.
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Some have said it is disqualifying for their vote. It definitely should be.”
Nah. It is said that it is disqualifying for the primary, not the GE.
I will vote for Trump if he is the nominee, as would Bitter and most of us here.
Anonymous might vote for Manchin, a flaming liberal, but i don’t know anybody here that is a conservative or Republican that would SWITCH from Trump to Manchin. None.
Maybe Amoral Scumbag would switch from Biden to Manchin. It would be an improvement. I doubt it though.
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LOL.. Anonymous also believes in the “brokered convention” BS where the smoked filled room of country club Rs is going to pick the nominee.
Those days are over. Deal with it.
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Supporting Putin’s war crimes is not ok for a primary but it is for a general election. When that time comes, Putin is suddenly on the right side. That says it all about Trump cultists.
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“Trump was really good, but I can do it better”.
I like it.
So far I don’t see the Golden Calf running on that, but he should.
It does not matter if we agree or not that Trump was really good, conservatives can disagree on that. I think he was really good on some things, really bad on others. On balance, he was a pretty good President. But we don’t need to agree on that to support the Golden Calf if the objective is to win in 2024.
There is little doubt that the vast majority of Rs approved of Trump as President, whether they liked his personality or not. That despite all the negative press he got and all the investigations.
So given that, there is very little upside in attacking Trump because the purpose of attacking a candidate is to drive up his negatives. Attack ads don’t actually help the attacking candidate but it does impact the recipient. Trump’s negatives are already factored into the electorate. The bogus charges had no impact on his polling, as I predicted btw.
That is why the Golden Calf’s strategy is to co-opt Trump supporters who see him as a continuation of Trump’s presidency, but without the baggage and with a greater change of winning.
Contrary to what Anonymous stated above, very few conservatives don’t want to win. That is garbage. That is his interpretation of people who support Trump because he hates Trump, but it is trash.
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Gen Flynn on the Ukraine money laundering operation
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Supporting Putin’s war crimes is not ok for a primary but it is for a general election”
Nah. But that is obviously not the only issue in the campaign. I voted for Trump in 2020 despite vociferously opposing his stupid tariff and trade war based policies. I will vote for him despite his stupid Ukraine policy, which by the way will not be so pro-Russian as it appears now. Trump is not going to want to own the annexation of Ukraine by Russia, you read it here first. Trump won’t even stop aid to Ukraine, he didn’t when he was President.
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VP Harris pays tribute to memorial of the VC who shot down and captured John McCain
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jason fraud 2016: “I will never. ever, ever, ever, never vote for Trump. He is the absolute worst person in the world.”
Trump wins in 2016- “I’m Trump’s biggest fan now. He proved me wrong.”
Trump loses in 2020- “I will never vote again for anything. America is corrupt and rigged. My voter registration card is now ripped up. We are headed for oblivion. Those of you who still want to vote and believe in democracy are suckers.”
Now, he wants people to believe he is going to vote for Trump. When has he ever stood by anything? He seems like an internet troll.
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jason
July 12, 2023 at 3:53 pm
his plan is to be more Trump than Trump.”
I think that SHOULD be his plan. He needs to run as a better Trump that can win. Hopefully he will embrace that concept.
– He has embraced the concept. DeSantis is running as a better version of Trump, but it’s not working. Why buy new coke when I can have the original?
Trump voters want Trump and only Trump. It is a cult built around one man. Their support is not transferrable. If Trump goes away, those voters go away. It’s that simple. And those who aren’t for Trump have had a long chance to view DeSantis and have said, so far, no.
DeSantis is losing and losing badly precisely because he’s running as a Trump clone. That is the best evidence a sizable chunk of the party is ready to move past Trump. Why? Because they are choosing not to support Trump and not support someone running as a better version of Trump.
If DeSantis continues on the path you think working, he’ll lose IA, NH, and SC by double digit margins and be out of the race by late February.
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Tim Scott is never going to be a consensus candidate in the event there is a need for one at a convention. If Trump is sent to prison or dies, the clownish delegates who come to the convention to support Trump will nominate Don Jr. or Ivanka.
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If Trump’s the nominee, I’m not voting. I didn’t vote for him in 2016 or 2020, but I voted for every other Republican on the ballot those years. In 2024, I’ll just stay home completely.
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Anonymous is Corey, right?
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Btw, any R or conservative voting for Manchin is an idiot. Manchin is a flaming liberal. He has supported just about EVERY far left cabinet, judicial and administration nomination Biden has put forward. He is responsible for allowing the “infrastructure” boondoggle. He is not batsh-t crazy and he didn’t go for HR-1 or killing the filibuster, but he is no moderate. Manchin has made a career out of hoodwinking WV voters into thinking he was a moderate, when really he is a hardcore liberal.
Trump might not be a conservative, but he is 100 times more likely to implement conservative policies than Manchin.
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Anonymous is Corey, right?”
Certainly writes like the Biden troll.
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Another kabuki theater hearing with Wray today.
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The best choice is Biden.
Second best choice is Hillary.
-Clinton Groupie.
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– He has embraced the concept. DeSantis is running as a better version of Trump, but it’s not working. Why buy new coke when I can have the original?”
Zzzzz… the Golden Calf so far is NOT running as a better version of Trump, unfortunately. Saying is is a complete lie.
As usual, Amoral Scumbag makes up excuses of why he is going to prefer the Dem over the guy he pretended to support.
We know what you call the Golden Calf. A total bum, a clown and a Trump clone.
You wouldn’t vote for him, or Youngkin, in a million years.
GFY.
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Just asking … how do you post without a name listed? Who is this?
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Iowa poll released today moved a few points in RDS favor.
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If DeSantis continues on the path you think working”
I think the Golden Calf is playing a long game in a short window. I hope he doesn’t run out of time.
I did not say it is working, I said he is not running as he should, which would be as an improved Trump that can win.
GFY again.
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Federal asset, Ray Epps, is suing Faux News for defamation. Faux will settle quickly.
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Iowa poll released today moved a few points in RDS favor.”
I actually think IA is a place where the Golden Calf can beat Trump. The demographics are not that great for Trump, it is not really “MAGA” country. It is also a caucus, where people can be somewhat persuaded given the right arguments.
And of course as we know IA can have a profound effect, as it did for Kerry. Or not, it didn’t hurt Biden.
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JeffP
July 12, 2023 at 4:29 pm
Another kabuki theater hearing with Wray today.”
I don’t often agree with the TDS moron, but it is a good description.
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Edward Luce
@EdwardGLuce
“DeSantis has it all wrong. His pretense at being a macho man — indeed a fearless superhero — is belied by his instinct to tiptoe around the dragon. The point is not to get to the right of the dragon. It is to plunge your spear into its heart.” My column.
– From the FT this morning and I agree with it. No one, not DeSantis, not Scott, not Haley, is going to beat Trump by pretending Trump doesn’t exist. These candidates, if they really want to win, have to take him head on when it comes to policy, his four years of governance, all of the stuff that swirls around him. If they don’t, they’ll lose and right now they have all chosen to lose and play for 2028 when they’ll be running against Trump as an 82 year old.
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Polls do show that the Golden Calf is the best second choice for Trump supporters. If Trump falters or if his support is soft, the Golden Calf should inherit most of it. He also does well as a second choice for the few people who support Pence, Tim Scott and “You must feel my pain Haley”. Forget F-t F—k Christie, his supporters will migrate to Biden.
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DeSantis needs momentum at some point. Debates could help.
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hese candidates, if they really want to win, have to take him head on when it comes to policy, his four years of governance, all of the stuff that swirls around him. ”
Zzzzz…. TDS moron BS by people who always hated Trump.
A vast majority R approve of Trump’s “four years of governance” even if they don’t approve of Trump. Attacking that is like butting your head into a steel wall.
“Plunge spear into his heart”….. that won’t get you ONE vote, but will make you lose a lot of them.
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Iowa is clearly DeSantis’ best shot to win an early state, but Cruz won Iowa in 2016 and then went nowhere for the next month. What it takes to win Iowa is often what turns off the voters in NH.
DeSantis is running the Cruz 2016 campaign, but with Jeb! energy. And what is the common theme between Cruz 2016 and DeSantis in 2024 – the strategist Jeff Roe. Erick Erickson noted the other day that the consensus behind the scenes is Jeff Roe needs to go. I doubt DeSantis will fire him, though.
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I am old enough to remember when I thought Hillary was going to be held accountable by Trey Gowdy. 😂 What year was that?
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Federal asset, Ray Epps, is suing Faux News for defamation. Faux will settle quickly.”
Not so sure. The discovery part will be very interesting.
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Yeah, he will have to better than “low energy Bush”. Unfortunately, if Trump doesn’t show up, the Golden Calf will be the target of all the others.
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But wait just a minute… You posted over and over again on HHR that you were going to vote for Trump in 2020 and afterwards that you did vote for Trump because you were so mad at me over shutdowns and your job…. On Twitter though, you said you didn’t vote tor Trump. Which was it?
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Robbie
July 12, 2023 at 4:26 pm
If Trump’s the nominee, I’m not voting”
Biden hardest hit.
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The MSM is beginning to prime the pump for the January 6th indictments in the last few days. Apparently the focus is no longer on the rally speech and incitement. Focus is on alternative electors scam. Marc Short (who despises Trump), Mark Meadows and Mike Pence have given grand jury testimony.
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Jeff Roe needs to go. ”
LOL
I am always right, I should retire.
jason
July 12, 2023 at 10:28 am
“Note he is already bailing out on the Golden Calf’s “flagging prospects”. Soon he will be asking for the Golden Calf’s campaign manager to be fired, then will start attacking the candidate’s positions, etc”
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JeffP
July 12, 2023 at 4:31 pm
Just asking … how do you post without a name listed? Who is this?”
It’s the Biden troll. Voted for Biden’s agenda 100% but pretends it’s because he hates Trump.
Another pathological liar.
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Robbie says:
October 20, 2020 at 5:28 pm
The issue of this election is the coronavirus and its effect on the economy. Trump’s message should be clear cut and simple.
Trump will push relentlessly to get American life back to the way it was in February 2020.
Biden will delay a return to normal by giving the doctors free reign to control every aspect of our lives.
If you want schools and businesses fully reopened, vote for Trump.
If you want years of online schooling, empty stadiums, restaurants that can’t stay in business, vote for Bide
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Apparently the focus is no longer on the rally speech and incitement.”
LOL
Maybe it is hard to get around the fact Trump told the rally crowd to protest peacefully.
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The Biden Troll voted for this guy.
BIDEN: “Russia could end this war tomorrow by…ceasing its inhumane attacks on Russia!
“Soon NATO will be the 32nd freestanding, have free, 30 free, 32 freestanding members!”
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Erick Erickson noted the other day that the consensus behind the scenes is Jeff Roe needs to go.”
Yeah, you really want to take the advice of a washed up fake conservative TDS moron.
I guess it is the “consensus” of the fake conservative TDS morons.
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Tony F
July 12, 2023 at 4:51 pm
But wait just a minute… You posted over and over again on HHR that you were going to vote for Trump in 2020″
Amoral Scumbag DID say he voted for Trump in 2020, although probably another lie, he voted for Biden.
I remember later someone called him on it and he said it was “his biggest mistake” voting for Trump. Even the Biden Troll admonished him on saying he was going to vote for Trump.
But he has the moral compass of. a floating turd so who knows.
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I still don’t know if the Dem strategy of charging Trump with a bunch of bogus crimes is because they WANT to ensure his nomination or they are afraid he will win and they want to stop him. So far the polls don’t support the theory that helping him win the nomination is a good strategy.
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Tony F
July 12, 2023 at 5:00 pm
Robbie says:
October 20, 2020 at 5:28 pm
The issue of this election is the coronavirus and its effect on the economy. Trump’s message should be clear cut and simple.
Trump will push relentlessly to get American life back to the way it was in February 2020.
Biden will delay a return to normal by giving the doctors free reign to control every aspect of our lives.
If you want schools and businesses fully reopened, vote for Trump.”
Tony, can you find the post where Amoral Scumbag said he voted for Trump but that is was his “biggest mistake”?
It is there. And this time he can’t say he was hacked.
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Voting for Trump was the biggest mistake we all made.
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Fox should do the full discovery. But they are bleeding cash.
Ratings are horrible post tucker.
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The Rs need to do impeachments of both the goblin and wrong Wray. Quit the faux outrage.
Rep Andy Biggs
@RepAndyBiggsAZ
FBI Director Wray just told me he “does not believe” there were any undercover FBI agents in or around the U.S. Capitol on January 6.
This claim has been already debunked—including by the former U.S. Capitol Police Chief.
Wray will be held accountable for this lie.
Video linked….
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Biden is now trailing him 6-7 points nationally. I think Russian hoaxer will go code red.
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Is this the latest hope or hoax?
Ha sent alternative electors because the election was still in dispute. The judge failed to act in 20 days and ran out the clock.
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If Biden is the nominee, I am voting for him.
-Russian hoaxer.
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Erica also said we would be fine under the demented dictator.
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Voting for Trump was the biggest mistake we all made.”
Yeah, because Biden is such a great President.
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I am devastated at this new escalation. Innocent people being killed by weapons provided by the evil NATO countries. We will never have peace if these warmongers insist on fighting for their own country.
“Lt. Gen. Oleg Tsokov died Monday when a barrage of cruise missiles obliterated the Dune Hotel in Berdiansk in the southern Zaporizhzhia region, where Russian military commanders had been quartered.
“It is reported that today in the Berdiansk area, the Russian Lieutenant General Oleg Yuriyovych Tsokov was liquidated,” Petro Andriushchenko, adviser to the Ukrainian mayor of Mariupol, gleefully wrote in his Telegram channel.”
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Epps claims on page 39/40 that he is going to be charged by the doj. Here is his lawsuit:
Click to access gov.uscourts.ded.83032.1.1_1.pdf
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https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-leaders-tell-zelensky-cool-it-rare-dressing-down-summit
While it’s not quite yet a full on ‘hero to zero’ story… things are certainly sliding in that direction, given it’s unprecedented that the Ukrainian president who previously enjoyed rockstar status in Western capitals since the start of the invasion could be told to basically ‘cool it’!.
Bloomberg continues in reference to Zelensky: “He had, after all, been given a renewed commitment to eventual membership and new security guarantees from the Group of Seven nations. By the next day, the message appeared to be sinking in.” The publication was privy to some key Western leaders’ exact words, presenting the rare dressing down as follows [emphasis ZH]:
“Whether we like it or not, people want to see gratitude,” UK Defense Secretary Ben Wallace told reporters the following morning. “You’re persuading countries to give up their stock” of weapons and ammunition, he added.
Zelensky may be overplaying his hand. While he petulantly teased he might not even attend the NATO meeting, he actually got there a day early, and then proceeded to trash leaders for not giving him a timeline to join the alliance. His rant did not go over well, and as some analysts are saying, this could be a flexion point in countries giving Zelensky so much, even bleeding their own munitions stockpiles to make him happy.
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But loon Cheney and the cryer told me Epps was just pickning in the park.
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I think the WCD strategy is whatever helps them.
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Looks like it. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/dozens-witnesses-testified-jan-6-focused-grand-jury-probes-trump-rcna91171
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Never Back Down (super PAC) Trump 45% 43% DeSantis Trump +2
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Everyone can still refer to me as JeffP except Woke Commie Dem Paul. Who is dead to me.
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Jan still hoping for a Putin victory. At least she is consistent.
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Everyone can still refer to me as JeffP”
I prefer TDS Moron Putin Lapdog but that is just me…..
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Jan still hoping for a Putin victory. At least she is consistent.”
She thinks Zelensky is overplaying his hand.
The guy who invaded Ukraine and caused the death of hundreds of thousands on both sides?
Aw shucks, just Pooty Poot being Pooty Poot, that lovable prankster.
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Everyone can still refer to me as JeffP ”
I like TDS Moron Putin Sycophant Lapdog better, maybe it is just me….
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I think, Bitter, some kind of peace agreement should be reached, so the murder and mangling of civilians and the military can stop. I don’t see why that shouldn’t be the main objective of everyone here.
BTW, congrats on this being your longest thread!
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“Peace at any cost!”
“Better Red than dead!”
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LGRW?
Hmmm…. let me guess.
Little Groveling Russian Weenie?
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How about Igor Larionov?
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even bleeding their own munitions stockpiles to make him happy.”
This simplistic garbage is really pathetic.
No country is providing Ukraine military aid to “make anybody happy” but to save Ukraine from the Russian invaders.
Zelensky is rightfully doing what he can to achieve that goal. He should be commended rather than attacked
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I don’t commend either Putin or Zelensky.
Putin is a KGB thug who is dragging his people into a conflict that only appeases his need to conquer a country on Russia’s border.
Zelensky is perpetuating the war, after he first did nothing to prepare or prevent Putin’s invasion. He wears fatigues but presumably has never visited the front lines. He lives in relative luxury, traveling around the world on other people’s dimes, is said to be pocketing or selling some of the donated aid, and has extended his demands to getting Crimea, although the population there is mostly Russian.
Both men seem to care little about their people’s lives or safety, but rather it is their own egos and ambitions that are driving the war, creating only death, destruction and anguish for the people having to endure it.
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Nothing to prepare? So it’s his fault they got invaded. You must blame women for getting raped too. You truly are a loathsome person jan.
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Your paragraph about Zelensky convinces me that you have had little interest in following the events in Ukraine this past year. And you have little interest in learning about this conflict.
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Jan, I find it so irritating that you don’t want to learn actual information, but only want to repeat Putin talking points.
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Paul is dead.
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On HHR, jan would sometimes link to stories about news matters that appeared on Holocaust denial websites. Maybe she knew that she was quoting Holocaust deniers or maybe she did not. Maybe she thinks the Jews who were killed had it coming for not preventing Hitler from killing them. Maybe she does not. Whatever the case, that speaks though to her news source perspective. What she said here about Ukraine being at fault for Putin invading them speaks for itself.
Also on HHR, she would frequently refer to “Rothschilds”and “Bilderbergs” so the picture of who she is seems to be sadly clear.
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Murdoch’s abandoning DeSantis!
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Why we must get rid of the UN and NATO
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The Doctor
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-unlikely-to-participate-in-republican-party-primary-debates
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I do not think Jan is anti-Semitic. I think she is willing to accept Putin’s victory and the subjugation of Ukrainians. Both can be true.
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If Trump doesn’t do debates it potentially makes it easier for RDS to argue why he will be a Trump upgrade. He will need to defend himself but he is quick on his feet.
Vivek has sold himself as Trump 2.0 because he is not a politician will try to do the same thing.
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I am not naive enough to believe that Trumps endless attacks on RDS have NOT impacted Trumps supporters who once thought DeSantis was the GREATEST Governor. Remember Make America Florida? Thus the polling changes since. That was Trumps strategy in the public attacks.
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Compost and slimes refer to j6 as a rally. It is no longer an insurrection as they run cover for ray Epps.
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Ray Epps was caught in camera demanding people go to the Capitol. He also breached the Capitol. Yet loon Cheney and the cryer defend him at all cost.
Weird.
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I also don’t buy his claim that he will be arrested. Since when does the fed announce an arrest ahead of time.
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Yesterdays testimony by wrong Wray is quite alarming. He has no control over his agency and is a serial liar. Rs need to get tough.
Clawback funding
Take away the plane
No new hq
Relocate out of dc
Impeach.
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Wray was quite good with his responses against the loons. Tina supports the loon traitors.
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Criminals like Tina want to do away with the FBI.
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Zelensky is perpetuating the war, after he first did nothing to prepare or prevent Putin’s invasion.”
What a despicable statement, sickeningly dishonest.
Perpetuating the war? How, by not surrendering?
Nothing to prepare? It seems like he was sufficiently prepared to keep the Russians from implementing their original plan of taking over the airfield near Kiev, flooding it with troops and decapitating the Ukrainian government in order to install a puppet regime.
He wears fatigues but presumably has never visited the front lines.
“Presumably” Where did you read that lie? Zelensky regularly visits front line troops and scenes of Russian war crimes. Have you seen Putin at the front lines?
He lives in relative luxury, traveling around the world on other people’s dimes”
Nah, he is head of state and travels as head of state. He was wealthy before the war and in fact could have retired to a life of great luxury instead of risking his life every day.
is said to be pocketing or selling some of the donated aid?
Is said? zzzzzzz…..
and has extended his demands to getting Crimea, although the population there is mostly Russian.”
No, the population of Crimea is 100% Ukrainian since Crimea is in fact part of Ukraine. The Russians are the ones that “got” Crimea illegally.
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If Trump doesn’t do debates it potentially makes it easier for RDS to argue why he will be a Trump upgrade”
I agree.
And I am glad JeffP has come around to the idea that the Golden Calf needs to sell himself as a Trump upgrade.
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I do not think Jan is anti-Semitic.”
Fact not in evidence. Her attacks against Zelensky do seem to involve anti-semitic tropes and originate from anti-semitic sources.
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Paul
July 13, 2023 at 8:39 am
Criminals like Tina want to do away with the FBI.”
Tina is not a criminal. Her idea of defunding the FBI would be great for criminals.
Fixed it for you.
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Do you think that Donald Trump is the strongest candidate that Republicans could nominate for president in 2024?
Yes, he is 31%
No, he is not 51%
Among Republicans:
Yes 55%
No 30%
@YouGovAmerica/@TheEconomist, 1,500 Adults, 7/8-11
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Do you think that Joe Biden is the strongest candidate that Democrats could nominate for president in 2024?
Yes, he is 20%
No, he is not 61%
Among Democrats:
Yes 39%
No 36%
@YouGovAmerica/@TheEconomist, 1,500 Adults, 7/8-11
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Does you guv have any other results?
Disastrous weeks for Biden abroad and food inflation numbers today
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So Tina is a criminal?
What the hell is wrong with you?
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Do you think that Donald Trump is the strongest candidate that Republicans could nominate for president in 2024?
Among Republicans:
Yes 55%
No 30%”
What say the TDS morons? Less than 1/3 of R voters think Trump is not the strongest candidate despite all the negative press, bogus indictments, etc.
This alone should convince anyone with half a brain that attacking and calling over half the R voters “disgusting” and other names is not going to win anybody the nomination or the GE.
The goal should be to get a majority of GOP voters to believe Trump is NOT the best candidate. Insulting them is not going to do that. Attacking Trump is not going to do that, they have heard it all.
The only way that can happen is to convince them someone else can accomplish whatever they think Trump can, do it better AND win.
I understand Trump is attacking and insulting everyone else. The Little Groveling Russian Weenie says Trump’s attacks have driven up the Golden Calf’s negatives among Rs and he is probably right. But driving up Trump’s negatives is not helping the Golden Calf.
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DeSantis War Room
@DeSantisWarRoom
“I don’t want to do ANYTHING that’s going to escalate this conflict.”
LISTEN:
@RonDeSantis tells @HowieCarrShow he opposes Biden sending cluster munitions to Ukraine.
– I’m not expecting a former House Freedom Caucus member to embrace John McCain’s foreign policy views, but it’s still disappointing to see DeSantis take this position. Carr is a pro-Trump radio host in Boston and this yet another example of DeSantis feeling obligated to either get to Trump’s right or hug Trump’s views.
Is it a pander? Probably, but, even if it isn’t, it’s still a disappointment and a missed opportunity for DeSantis to distinguish himself from Trump. Support for democracies and/or efforts to stymie the Soviet Union/Russia have long been a key part of Republican politics and I’m quite certain it remains an intrinsic part of most Republicans’ beliefs. Yet, no one who can win (Haley and Scott can’t) are making it an issue.
DeSantis isn’t going to win by claiming he’s Trump with smoother edges. If that was going to work, he wouldn’t be languishing in the polls. He doesn’t have to use MSNBC style talking points, but he does need to distinguish himself from Trump. So far, he hasn’t come close to doing so.
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California bill would require judges “to rectify racial bias” through sentencing.
LOL Has the progressive left ever heard of the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment?
Yeah, they’ve heard of it. They just don’t care. Separate sentencing guidelines based on the color of your skin. All part of the California reparations package. Perfect. And I thought forgiveness child support for blacks was as nutty as the California reparations nonsense could get.
You couldn’t make all this sh*t up if you tried.
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Tgca to suddenly show up and label me a racist.
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jason
July 13, 2023 at 10:43 am
I understand Trump is attacking and insulting everyone else. The Little Groveling Russian Weenie says Trump’s attacks have driven up the Golden Calf’s negatives among Rs and he is probably right. But driving up Trump’s negatives is not helping the Golden Calf.
– Driving up Trump’s negatives hasn’t helped DeSantis because DeSantis is not making Trump’s negatives an issue. In order for a candidate to capitalize on an opponent’s weaknesses, that candidate has to drive the issue home with voters through talking points and advertising. DeSantis just isn’t doing that and has shown no desire to do that either.
Politics is not osmosis where something just transfers over. We saw that in 2016 when the argument was repeatedly made if “so and so would just drop out, my choice would win”. Well, that was never going to happen because voters don’t move in blocks on their own. They have to be driven there by candidates. When Jeb quit in February 2016, his voters didn’t automatically go to Rubio like many hoped or thought. In fact, many went to Trump. Why? Because he made the case to them he should be their guy.
Trump’s negatives in the primary can go to 90%, but if no one wants to make his negatives an issue, then they won’t matter.
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Makes Me Mad!” – MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski SCOLDS Biden Staffers for Making Him Look Old and Feeble (VIDEO)
Cristina Laila Jul. 13, 2023 10:05 am 158 Comments
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I wonder who the Clnton groupie and hoaxer will support if Biden drops out? Hillary?
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Neither, because I won’t be voting.
Who will you support as the next leader of Russia is your hero Putin gets thrown out in a coup?
The head of the FSB?
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Contrasts in campaigning.
Trump speaking at TPUSA conference with young MAGA supporters this weekend.
DeSantis participating in Iowa Family Leader Presidential Forum Friday (Trump sends surrogate who has spread lies online), Operation Top Nunn rally with Kim Reynolds and Joni Ernst Saturday and Keynote Speaker at Tennessee GOP Convention Saturday night.
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Secret service cannot find who placed the cocaine in the bin. No Camera in that area.
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Of course…specialized finger printing technology could find fingerprints either. It’s all a joke.
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Indictment of Epps have something to do with this? I am thinking YES.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/07/13/jan-6-indictment-trump-prosecution-memo/
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Zelensky is happy about the actual outcome Vilnius summit. As he should be. It was a very good outcome for him.
“We are returning home with a good result for our country, and very importantly, for our warriors. A good reinforcement with weapons.
It is very important: for the first time since independence, we have formed a security foundation for Ukraine on its way to NATO. These are concrete security guarantees that are confirmed by the top 7 democracies in the world. Never before have we had such a security foundation, and this is the level of the G7. On this foundation, we will build a new, legally binding architecture of bilateral security treaties with the most powerful countries.
Very importantly, during these two days of the Summit, we have put to rest any doubts and ambiguities about whether Ukraine will be in NATO. It will! For the first time, not only do all Allies agree on this, but a significant majority in the Alliance is vigorously pushing for it. Never before have the words “you are equal among equals” for Ukraine from other NATO members sounded truly meaningful. Now everyone understands that this is a fact. Equal among equals. And we will definitely reaffirm this fact with our victory. And with our accession to NATO.
Previously, Russia’s rulers wanted to have their own fence in front of NATO’s door. We have left this Russian ambition on the margins of European history – behind the fence of our unity in Europe and, more broadly, in the free world.
I am grateful to all those who have worked for unity in Vilnius now!”
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“DeSantis isn’t going to win by claiming he’s Trump with smoother edges”
Totally agree. DeSantis attempt to be Trump’s mini-me has failed miserably. So far his campaign has been a disaster. I initially supported him, but his waffling on Ukraine and other issues has me looking for another candidate.
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but if no one wants to make his negatives an issue, then they won’t matter.”
They won’t matter anyway. Look at the poll above. 55% of Rs think Trump is the strongest candidate for the GE despite all the negative 24/7 attacks on him and all the bogus indictments. Why? Because they liked him as President. Unless someone convinces them there is a better option, that won’t change. I think Trump was a good President. The fact he now takes what I consider an unacceptable position of Ukraine does not change that.
Driving up another candidate’s negatives doesn’t help the attacking candidate. That is Politics 101. Trump’s negatives are known to every R in America. Most think the positives outweigh the negatives, including me. I don’t support him because I think there is a better candidate that can win. I am never going to be convinced by TDS morons, the DOJ and the MSM that Trump was not a good President and that the impeachments and charges against him aren’t politically motivated trash.
The Golden Calf would be committing political suicide if his campaign was about Trump instead of about him. His challenge is to remain as the front running alternative to Trump so he continues to be well funded and to make his case on why he can be, as JeffP put it, an “upgraded Trump”. If he gets to the convention in 2nd place with Trump having only a plurality of delegates he can be the nominee.
Trump would love the primary campaign to be about him. He knows if that is the case, he comes out ahead every time.
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I continue to support DeSantis because I believe he is the only person in the race who has a chance to defeat Trump. My support is, in effect, transactional because I don’t necessarily like all of his policy views. If DeSantis does defeat Trump, I hope we learn that some of the positions he took in the primary, like his stance on Ukraine, were ones that he’s willing to modify once he becomes president.
I also support Haley, Scott, and Pence if any of them can show they have a legitimate shot of stopping Trump. And if Glenn Youngkin decides to jump in the race (doubtful), I would support him if he shows he can defeat Trump. The only candidate I’m against is Trump.
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jason
July 13, 2023 at 1:32 pm
but if no one wants to make his negatives an issue, then they won’t matter.”
They won’t matter anyway. Look at the poll above. 55% of Rs think Trump is the strongest candidate
– And what did the polls say about Jeb and Trump in late June 2015? They said Jeb was one of the strongest and Trump would be one of the weakest. Yet, Trump went hard after his opponents and caused voters to change their minds about Jeb, Carson, Rubio, Cruz, and the rest. Polls change. Otherwise, Hillary would’ve beaten Obama and Hillary would’ve crushed Bernie early in the process in 2016.
There’s not a single instance in which a coordinated and sustained negative ad campaign hasn’t worked. Negative ads and negative campaigning work every time they are tried. The problem in 2015/16 is none of the candidates took Trump seriously until it was too late (March 2016) and now none of them have the stomach to even try.
If a candidate, any candidate, had $100 million to spend on negative ads in the first three states (IA, NH, SC) and on FoxNews for the next five months, Trump’s pool numbers would go down and his negative ratings would go up. They just would because only about 35% is “ride or die” with conman Donnie. The rest can be persuaded to go elsewhere because they were thinking about going elsewhere in the early part of 2023.
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You don’t know the first thing about campaign 101 which is why you stupidly sent money to moron candidates like Herschel Walker last year.
You don’t want Trump to be on the receiving end of any negative campaigning because you want Trump to get a free ride to the nomination.
That’s why you want Desantis to campaign as a Trump mini-me who just says “mee too” after every Trump utterance. You want to look like Trump is the only game in town so he faces no threat in the primary.
You’re fooling no one. You’re for Trump and only Trump. It’s why call DeSantis the Golden Calf, a phrase that has a negative biblical connotation.
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Hershel Walker got 48.5% of the vote. Maybe you should have sent him money too, since with your theory a little more money could have changed the outcome.
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Breaking
Per rep boebert 3 times drugs have been found under the leadership of demented dictator
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and his negative ratings would go up.”
Zzzzz….. the MSM has spent billions trying to get Trump’s negatives to go up. What do people still not know about Trump to make their judgment about him?
You want the Golden Calf to self destruct because you see him as a threat to Biden in the GE.
I don’t think he is going to take advice from TDS morons, let alone Dem trolls like you who call him a total bum, clown and Trump clone.
He has a chance as a better and improved Trump who can win. As anti-Trump moron repeating MSM talking points it is political suicide.
We shall see which option he takes. I kind of doubt he is going to commit political suicide by insulting the majority of the people he needs to vote for him as a campaign strategy.
If he did that, I would really be disappointed.
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“Ukraine’s membership in NATO poses a threat to the security of the Russian Federation. One of the reasons for the start of the SMO is precisely the “threat of Ukraine joining the alliance”, – Putin 🤡”
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“Putin has completely failed the reason for the war. Finland is in NATO. Sweden and Ukraine are underway. Poland will become the new military power in Europe. Russia has failed on several levels. Everything has become the opposite.”
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“Biden: “The question is not whether Ukraine should join NATO or not. The question is when it will join NATO. And it will.
About the fact that [not joining NATO now] will not stop Putin from continuing the war. The answer is: Putin has already lost the war.”
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hat’s why you want Desantis to campaign as a Trump mini-me who just says “mee too” after every Trump utterance. ”
Nah. Just the opposite. I think he needs to acknowledge Trump’s accomplishments as President, yes. There is no upside in not doing that. None, nada, zilch. As far as responding to Trump’s attacks he should let his surrogates do that, he has a good team with Christina Pushaw as his pit bull, let her loose on Trump.
But beyond that he has to make his campaign about HIM, not about Trump. Any time or money he spends attacking Trump is less time and money he has to advance his own candidacy.
Jeb Bush spent $40 million in attack ads against Rubio. At the time you were all for it. Yes, it may have driven up Rubio’s negatives, but it sure didn’t help Jeb.
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“Biden: “The question is not whether Ukraine should join NATO or not. The question is when it will join NATO. And it will.”
Good. The sooner the better.
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Yes, and what did Kemp and Raffensberger get?
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jason
July 13, 2023 at 3:12 pm
and his negative ratings would go up.”
Zzzzz….. the MSM has spent billions trying to get Trump’s negatives to go up. What do people still not know about Trump to make their judgment about him?
– Yes, they have, but Republican voters don’t believe anything that comes from the MSM. There’s a good chance they will believe things that come from Republicans who have a chance to win like DeSantis.
But again, you want Trump to get a free pass from DeSantis and the rest because you want Trump to be the nominee and you don’t want him to be roughed up.
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jason
July 13, 2023 at 3:23 pm
hat’s why you want Desantis to campaign as a Trump mini-me who just says “mee too” after every Trump utterance. ”
Nah. Just the opposite. I think he needs to acknowledge Trump’s accomplishments as President, yes.
– Ok, fraud. Then DeSantis should run an ad where he says, “Donald Trump is the greatest president the country’s ever had, but everyone should vote for me” and then see what his poll numbers do.
That’s the kind of campaign you want DeSantis to run, though, because you want Trump to be the nominee. You want a coronation for him.
You’re not the least bit concerned about finding a candidate who can win the general election. You’re concerned with feting Trump.
And the worst part, you’re going to do and say all of the same things when he runs again in 2028. You’re going to say every candidate should extol the wonderfulness of a many who lost for the second time in a row in 2024 and made the party unelectable in the suburbs.
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The President of the United States, Joe Biden has just released an authorization for the call-up of at least 3,000 Personnel from the U.S. Armed Forces Reserve and roughly 450 from the Individual-Ready Reserve in order to Augment the Forces of U.S. European Command for the upcoming Exercise “Operation Atlantic Resolve” in the Region.
Why?
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I’m surprised Tinfoil hasn’t mentioned this, but five years ago today conman Donnie Trump held his infamous press conference in Finland with Putin where he swooned like a high school girl about him. I would’ve thought this would have been some sort of MAGA holiday for her and all of the other Putin worshippers who are fine with Ukrainians soldiers getting killed, but draw the line at any Red Army soldiers dying.
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Huh? Putin invaded Ukraine because he claimed it was part of Russia. Is he now accepting the reality that Ukraine will have security guarantees from NATO? Tina needs to travel to Moscow and punch the weakling Putin in the nose.
“Ukraine has the right to security. We are not against discussing security guarantees for Ukraine, but subject to the observance of Russian security guarantees.” – Putin 🤡
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I don’t know what to think about this response by DRT to the Las Vegas reporter questions on the big steal. I wish I could say DJT and RNC did everything needed in 2020. However this response screams incompetence again. His campaign was completely unprepared for the changes key states made in election laws due to Covid and the obvious flooding of ballots in 2020. Lawsuits WAY too late and chain of custody issues should have been addressed long before voting took place. Rona and RNC were partly to blame as well. It cost the election and a Hail Mary failed attempt to overturn the results. Crazy is as crazy does.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/opinion/opinion-columns/victor-joecks/victor-joecks-trump-has-no-plan-to-win-in-2024-2870456/
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Sniffing and slipping euro tour by the demented dictator
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Pooty poot invaded Ukraine because the demented dictator allowed him to. Did you again forget “incursion”? The Russian hoaxer has to accept that his candidate caused this.
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I wonder when Murdoch will default to Biden. It’s pretty much a given.
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Mini-me echoes Trump:
“I don’t want to do anything that’s gonna escalate this conflict. I think that right now you have an open-ended blank check. There’s no clear objective for victory. And this is kind of dragging on and on,” DeSantis said, adding that the danger is this could escalate or “end up just going on for years.”
“So, yes or no to cluster bombs if you were president?” Carr pressed the Florida governor.
“I would not do that, no. I think it runs, I think it probably runs a risk of escalation. Basically what I said from the beginning is no weapons that could lead to attacks inside Russia or escalating the conflict. We cannot become involved in this directly,” DeSantis said.
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So no cameras and no prints on the cocaine from hunters baggie
We are a laughing stock.
Banana republic.
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I think a few weeks from now we may look back at this answer to Howie Carr as a point when the DeSantis campaign really started to lose altitude with some big-time donors. Donors aren’t the be-all and end-all, but it’s hard to run a campaign without money. There seemed to be a palpable sense of frustration among Republican foreign policy types about this answer.
Whether he realizes it or not, I think DeSantis’ struggles are setting him up for the kind of treatment Romney got in September 2011 when big name Republicans, many who supported Mitt, publicly begged Chris Christie run for president. My guess Youngkin will get a period of news attention where Republicans ask him to run. He’ll almost certainly say no, but it will be a sign of trouble for DeSantis since he seems to be about 30 points behind nationally.
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“A top Russian general says he has been removed from his post in Ukraine after telling military chiefs the truth about the dire situation on the front line.
Maj Gen Ivan Popov was the commander of the 58th Army, which has been fighting in the southern Zaporizhzhia region.
In a voice message, Maj Gen Popov said he raised questions about high casualty rate and lack of artillery support.
“It was necessary either to keep quiet and be a coward or to say it the way it is,” he said.
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“Andrey Turchak, the First Deputy Speaker of Russia’s Federation Council and leader of the parliamentary working group on Russia’s military operation in Ukraine, said that Popov’s appeal was not intended for the public and was shared only within private chat groups among commanders and soldiers of the 58th Army.
“General Popov’s appeal was non-public and posted in private chats of commanders and soldiers of the 58th Army,” Turchak said in a statement on Telegram Thursday.
“The fact that ‘member of parliament’ [Andrey] Gurulev somehow received it and made a political show out of it, is on his conscience,” he added”
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/sven-von-storch-putin-has-called-joe-bidens/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=sven-von-storch-putin-has-called-joe-bidens
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I am not sure who Anonymous is. I don’t have access to the old HHR and IP addresses. Maybe Anonymous is really SPARTACUS!
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What foreign country snatched Hillary’s emails on her secret illegal server?
Govt. officials cannot find out.
Who was the person who planted the pipe bombs in DC just before the Jan 6 trouble?
Govt. officials cannot find out.
How many government agents were in the crowd who stormed the capitol on Jan 6?
Govt. officials cannot answer?
Who ordered this and that done at the FBI and Justice Dept. to spy on U.S. citizens for speaking out at school board meetings, etc.?
Govt. officials cannot find out.
Who put the coc.a.i.ne in the White House?
Govt officials cannot find out.
Who put the ram in the ram-a-lama-ding-dong?
Govt officials cannot find out.
Who put the wop in the wop-de-wop-de-wop?
Govt cannot find out.
Where exactly is Hunter Biden’s laptop, and when did govt. officials begin investigation of that?
Govt officials cannot answer.
Who was that grandmother hiding behind a bush on the capitol grounds on Jan 6 who had a sign that said “F… Biden”?
Govt. identified, arrested and jailed her in 6 days.
Who were the people who nightly attacked the federal courthouse in Washington State for 6 months with firebombs, etc.?
Govt cannot find out.
Who at the Supreme Court leaked the SCOTUS opinion about abortion before the SCOTUS issued their opinion?
Govt cannot find out.
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Does this just about cover it?
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SEC destroyed today!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/digital-assets/2023/07/11/elon-musk-endorses-huge-2030-crypto-prediction-that-could-trigger-a-bitcoin-and-ethereum-price-boom/?sh=63761d7454db “By 2030 all currencies will be backed entirely by GPUs, which five years ago would’ve sounded like a crypto prediction,” a Twitter user posted to the platform Elon Musk bought last year, referring to the digitalization of traditional currencies.
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https://vxtwitter.com/ShitpostRock/status/1679241490126585856?s=20
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“Disastrous weeks for Biden abroad and food inflation numbers today”
Food Inflation?
There is no such thing.
Food and energy costs (gasoline, heating fuel, etc.) were removed several years ago from the formula to calculate inflation rate.
Because we all know that energy costs and food are not a significant part of the typical family budget.
BAWHAHA!
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TO: Whoever is posting links to the Washington Post.
the link will not show the article unless you pay to subscribe to the WaPo.
If you want us to read it, then you better cut and paste it from the article YOU subscribe to.
Some of us do not have the extra money to do that, due to rising costs of gas, energy and food.
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Solana God candles going down today!
Elon tightening it up for UFC fight with Zuck
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Neocons still in control
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AI & crypto to the moon
The Price of Tomorrow!
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Biden calling up US reserves for the Ukraine money laundering program today also
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We knew South Park predicted the future, but finally we know that 2001 video games future predictions have achieved reality
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Some sort of internal unrest appears to again be taking place in Russia:
“BREAKING: Voronezh in Russia is under attack! Doubtful this has anything to do with Ukraine. Appears to be internal Russian developments. The Voronezh-45 nuclear military facility captured by Wagner PMC during the coup is in the area.
🚨 Another angle of a projectile flying for what appears to be a short distance based on the arc and detonating in Voronezh, Russia. The Voronezh-45 nuclear facility captured by Wagner PMC during the coup is in the area.
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Just as we reported on June 25th, day after the sudden end to the coup: Wagner captured the Voronezh-45 nuclear facility during the coup and that precipitated the sudden & bizarre negotiated end of the coup.”
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“WAGNER ON THE MOVE
Russian news reports that Wagner had left their camp in Belarus 🇧🇾 and are headed, accompanied by 🇷🇺 police, in the direction of Moscow.”
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DeSantis is the Trump Upgrade
DESANTIS: As president, I will “approach things with more of a military bearing.”
Getting distracted and losing focus “will allow the administrative state to eat your lunch.”
God he is so right on this. It scares me that this could be a lost opportunity to address the corruption in the administrative state.
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TinyD is a loser
GOP needs to impeach the governor
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Trump needs to take the gloves off on TinyD and call for impeachment
And General Flynn needs to be the VP
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Instead of going to a “debate” with this POS, Trump needs to hold impeach DeSantis rallies outside the debate.
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TinyD is childish. Professionally I specialize in cult deprogramming if you want help.
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Tiny D is a traitor
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“The Ukraine-related amendments to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) would have effectively limited or rolled back U.S. involvement in Ukraine, but a majority of Republicans joined Democrats in opposition to the proposals.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) put forth one amendment to strike $300 million in Ukraine funding that failed 89-341, with 130 Republicans joining all Democrats in voting against it.
Another proposal from Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), which would have prohibited all security assistance for Ukraine, similarly failed 70-358 on the House floor, with 149 Republicans opposing it. “
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Advocating that a paid Putin stooge be nominated for VP has to be one of the most ridiculous ideas ever posted on this blog.
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Bunu – I don’t want to ban anybody but can you refrain from your nonsense a bit? Nobody clicks on your links and your investment advice sucks.
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DeSantis is the Trump Upgrade
DESANTIS: As president, I will “approach things with more of a military bearing.”
Getting distracted and losing focus “will allow the administrative state to eat your lunch.”
God he is so right on this. It scares me that this could be a lost opportunity to address the corruption in the administrative state.
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MTG & Gaetz are back bencher attention seekers. They don’t have any real party influence. They will remain silent or defend Trump even if it harms the conservative movement and be the first and loudest to bitch about corruption…as Trump sleeps with Lindsey Graham. Ridiculous.
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The morning faux program is holding a struggle session to see who murdoch will now promote for the presidency (jack Posobiec).
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We need Flynn, Patel, and Grennel to be part of the new trump admin. Keep the Ccp coc types out.
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Murdoch will default to Biden, much like the Russian hoaxer and the Clinton Groupie.
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The nbc article is alarming, if true. “Shut down national operations” if Rds continues to perform poorly. There is no way to become the nominee, if true.
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They have supposedly pushed out Pushaw. Her hiring Twitter idiots was the beginning of the end imo. They went anti vax and lied about lock downs.
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Flynn is the most supportive of the CCCP (Союз Советских Социалистических Республик)
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Tucker destroys asa.
What a beat down.
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Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
Tucker: Why wouldnt we use the military at the border?
Asa: The military has a lot of responsibilities
Tucker: Protecting America isn’t a responsibility?
@theblaze
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Asa is done. Well he was done before he started.
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Asa is a joke. If you don’t think so, watch that interview.
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Tucker is good at pulling a lot of crap out of his asshole.
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Yes, Phil, Tina is a criminal and supports criminal activity.
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Tucker just destroyed Judas pence
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I am sure these Rinos will be quoting bible verses while they despise the working class, won’t defend our borders, and love war mongering.
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Cn and n , fake flapper, is really defending “protester”, Ray Epps,
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Tucker is a little fucker.
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Keep your kids away from the pedo
Disgusting.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/shock-video-finnish-child-terrified-as-joe-biden/
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Bitterlaw
July 13, 2023 at 8:56 pm
I am not sure who Anonymous is.”
Zzzzzz… it’s the Biden Troll, the same sanctimonious ass as always.
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Paul – Language, mf-er. Language.
In other news – 500 posts and none by Tgca!
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Pence’s response was absurd and soft-revealing as to where his real priorities are, and they certainly are not with most people in this country. GOP nominees are virtually self-destructing under a more rigorous interview, not full of platitudes and repetitious talking points.
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Never forget – they were lying
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Pence did call out Tucker’s disgraceful lie about Christians being persecuted in Ukraine.
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John Daniel Davidson
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It’s interesting that all these would-be GOP contenders for 2024 would just voluntarily sign up to have their campaigns ended by Tucker live on stage…
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It’s like the guy in that song that blew his mind out in a car….
I think Pence and Asa “didn’t notice that the lights had changed.” They still think its the Republican party of 8 years ago.
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The Right finally begins to understand why TinyD must be impeached
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Why are RINO’s obsessed with wearing vests with their named stitched on it…especially in summer time
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Yikes
TheBlaze
@theblaze
Tucker: “I’m sorry, Mr. Vice President. You are distressed that the Ukrainians don’t have enough American tanks? Every city in the United States has become much worse over the past three years. Drive around. There’s not one city that’s gotten better. And it’s visible. Our economy has degraded, the suicide rate has jumped, public filth, and disorder and crime have exponentionally increased and yet your concern is that the Ukrainians, a country most people can’t find on a map, don’t have enough tanks? I think it’s a fair question to ask: Where’s the concern for the United States in that?”
Pence: “That’s not my concern.”
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Ron’s poor fashion choices are a point where everyone on the left and right can find agreement.
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Biden initially dithered around on Russian troops gathering on Ukraine’s border- even giving Russia a nuanced nudge by saying it would be ok if Russia undertook a small invasion.
Then Biden called for giving funding to Ukraine’s war effort, asserting he would never allow US ground troops to be in Ukraine. This funding includes paying the pensions of Ukrainian government officials.
Eventually more and more sophisticated armaments and equipment have been dispatched to Ukraine. The list includes Sherman Tanks, numerous special forces, F16s, long range missiles, cluster bombs banned by allies of ours, like the UK, and the latest, Biden’s permission to mobilize 3000 reserve troops to lend a helping hand. This is an incremental pattern of involvement reminiscent of the build-up to the Viet Nam war. Finally, with US military recruitment on the decline I wonder how long it will take to bring back the draft for the sake of defending Ukraine – a draft calling up both young men and women to actively and involuntarily engage in another country’s war effort?
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The nudge (allowing an incursion) is denied here by many warmonger types.
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When the US institutes a draft to defend Ukraine I will worry about it then, I think the likelihood of that is about the same as me winning the Powerball.
Of course, the likelihood of a new cold war and actual involvement of US troops would INCREASE if Putin is given free reign on his vision of a new USSR/Greater Russia. THAT would put more Americans at risk.
Right now we should worry about getting enough sophisticated equipment to Ukraine so they can fight off the Russians themselves.
This is a lot cheaper in cost and American lives than the alternative.
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The Golden Calf is now a 6-1 underdog for the nomination at Predictit. It is too low and I consider it a good bet. I am going to invest. Hope springs eternal.
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Tucker cuts to the point, asking questions and making relevant points that are on most thinking people’s minds. That’s why he has such a large following among people of all political persuasions.
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Pence is out. It’s over.
Horrible.
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I was intensely following the Russian buildup. I do believe ANY move by Biden (sending more troops or aid) would have been used by Putin as justification of invasion. So, I think it was prudent to be cautious as Biden was before the invasion. I also think it was strategic of Biden to give Putin an off-ramp of simply shoring up the Donbass without a full invasion (minor incursion).
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When the US institutes a draft to defend Ukraine I will worry about it then
That response reminds me of a long term friend who has ignored his diabetic condition, denying that not taking care of himself might catch up with him. Last month he had an above the knee amputation of his left leg. Now, he is worrying about it, after it’s too late.
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Was the fly sitting on his head again?
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British intelligence in the dock for CIA torture.
Unfortunately for the US, Bush will probably be old and dead by the time we get around to prosecuting the Bush-Cheney regime.
“Recent developments raise the prospect that British intelligence agents could finally face justice for their little-known role in the CIA’s global torture program.”
“Lawyers for al-Hawsawi say they have proof that British intelligence agents illegally “aided, abetted, encouraged, facilitated, procured and/or conspired” with the US to torture and abuse their client.
Al-Hawsawi is one of just five remaining Guantanamo detainees to have been charged over alleged involvement in the 9/11 attacks.
According to the declassified summary of the US Senate report into CIA torture, al-Hawsawi was one of several prisoners held and abused “despite doubts and questions surrounding their knowledge of terrorist threats and the location of senior al-Qaeda leadership.”
His lawyers say there’s “credible evidence” that Britain’s MI5 and MI6 provided questions for his American torturers to ask, and were passed along information obtained during the so-called ‘enhanced interrogation’ sessions.”
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Perhaps we should let Germany take Czechoslovakia and Poland. We don’t want to potentially have a draft and go to war with Germany.
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So, who is up next for Tucker to roast?
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There is a current revolution in weight loss drugs: ozempic, monjuro, wegovy etc etc
The public hasn’t yet realized that these drugs actually work given that so many in the past were bad.
Frustrating that insurance companies aren’t covering them often times though but will pay for all the problems assoc w morbid obese America like sleep apnea machines, BP meds and statins etc etc etc etc.
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Nikki Haley, it is!!
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Catturd ™
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DC_Draino
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Tucker: Mexico sends fentanyl into the US killing hundreds of thousands
Russia hasn’t killed a single American
Why is Russia our sworn enemy & Mexico is our ally?
Tim Scott: well…uhh…this is why we need to send more weapons to Ukraine
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Imagine how much better off we’d be if we had outsourced out manufacturing to Mexico who happens to be our neighbor rather than boosting up communist China.
Or if not them at least India who is at least a sort of democracy.
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Nikki Haley came out of that unscathed. Was Tucker easier on her?
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Big win
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TinyD won’t defund the war and he won’t defund the FBI\CIA
Luckily he is too weak to ever be president as well
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Noah Rothman
@NoahCRothman
DeSantis suggests the NATO alliance supports Ukraine’s defense only because it’s good for “defense contractors” and “globalist investors.”
– I cannot believe he said this. Unbelievably disappointing. Pandering to Tucker Carlson, which is what this comment is, is a real mark against him. DeSantis better hope Youngkin stays on the sidelines, otherwise, a lot of his supporters may go to him.
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See that Bunu, as a good Putin troll, continues to quote from Gray Zone, which is funded by the Russians.
Flynn got the n trouble for failing to report he was receiving money from Putin. Sounds like a perfect candidate for VP in Bunu’s world
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Ken Gardner
@KenGardner11
That’s not what he said or suggested at all. He actually said that this would be the wrong reason for supporting Ukraine. It’s bad enough that Trump people serially misrepresent what he said; we don’t need this as well.
– There appears to be some dispute about the context of what DeSantis said. Hopefully, that’s the case.
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I cannot believe Rds said this…
Cc jason
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I can see the Russian trolls are in a tizzy, after the House of Representatives overwhelming denied an attempt to cut-off aid for the Ukraine.
If Putin gets overthrown, who will Bunu and Tina turn to in order to save civilization?
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Been a bad few weeks for the war mongers.
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Shabbat Shalom
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Vivek did the best.
The American last Deadenders did the worst.
I did pence had the worst night of them all, followed closely by assa.
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It’s true. Whether you can believe it or not.
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Vivek came on with very strong opinions appealing to the audience at hand, even receiving a standing ovation. However, I think it was DeSantis who made the most headway in his responses to Tucker. He did not falter or flinch in answering every question, especially the controversial ones involving domestic policy ie gender, school curriculum, the southern border. He walked a finer line dealing with Ukraine, but nevertheless seemed to support holding a firmer line on how much aid we should give, questioning ( like I do) why we should care more about that border than our own southern border. It was a good presentation by DeSantis, a home run in the estimation of analysts scrutinizing all the performances of the candidates who attended this venue.
Pence, OTOH, outed himself as an undesirable choice, blowing up his campaign by today’s pathetic responses.
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Okay first official event today in Iowa. Watched interviews between lunch, a client no show and drive home. This is my take and how I see things.
1. DeSantis is most prepared to lead and was enthusiastically made his case on policy and what his priorities are. He is solid…intelligent, nerdy in a good way and well spoken versus charismatic. He is a fighter and shows emotion, genuinely and appropriately. Definitely a Trump upgrade. You can see his passion for some issues in how communicates. He understands what being an administrator is all about. He has a stellar record of service to this country and the state of Florida as Governor as proof. He addresses my greatest concern… woke culture in schools and business, CRT, pro life, government corruption, CBDC, China, and the list goes on. Tucker said amen about a half dozen times. Someone I would gladly vote for.
2. Vivek…I like a lot. He is intelligent and an excellent communicator. Has some charisma but doesn’t have the experience yet to govern. I like his approach to look below the surface regarding issues and solving problems. He does come across as a salesman sometimes. But would vote for him over Trump. Tucker gave him the floor to campaign speech a couple times. You can tell Tucker liked him too.
3. Haley was an empty pant suit and Tucker was easiest on her. She seems fake to me.
4. Pence is done, Asa is done. It was bad for them.
5.:Scott was disappointing. Nothing really stuck out.
6. Mr cult of personality Trump was a no show. Which I think hurt him at least
in Iowa. There are many things Trump did as President that I greatly appreciated up until 2020. I understand the loyalty people feel after all the persecution and political assassination attempts he has faced. He is talking more BS than 2016 and his baseless attacks on DeSantis & Reynolds are repulsive to me. Ultimately I just cannot see him being elected in a general and I think he is being used as controlled opposition for another election cycle. But I would vote for him one more time if he makes it that far … which I doubt.
Ultimately the GOP nomination comes down to loyalty for the charismatic persecuted Trump or the more solid young fighter for freedom. I don’t think anyone else has a chance. Vivek could play spoiler for DeSantis if he continues to gain support.
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/07/14/tucker-carlson-leaves-nikki-haley-speechless-on-subject-of-nordstream-pipeline/#more-248839
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Really bad day for the warmonger candidates. Least impressive as a whole. Scott may be “best” in that group.
No change to the race.
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The tinyD clown campaign will never be president even if he somehow won.
Conservatives aren’t voting for a proUkraine war, pro-FBI, pro-CIA candidate
I doubt he has any actual conservative positions beyond what we even know
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OAC wants Trump back in office
https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1669841842655952897?s=20
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RFK jr. should have shown up for Tucker’s forum. He’d likely would do well with the pro-Putin crowd.
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I saw that deer in the headlights look and then she flipped the question back on her. Tucker. 😂
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Time to Make America Great Again!
https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1679632983395913728?s=20
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RDS is far more conservative than Trump on several issues.
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*back on Tucker
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tinahhr
July 14, 2023 at 7:05 pm
Been a bad few weeks for the war mongers.”
The “warmongers” favor Ukraine.
The “Pooty Poot” peace advocates favor Russia.
You gotta love it here
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Glad the Golden Calf did well with Tucker, that would have been a “hostile” interview. If he can survive Tucker he can survive anyone in the MSM.
I can’t see how Trump would benefit from not being there, Whether it actually hurt him is another story. His supporters are tuning out the negative press on Trump, and rightfully so. That is the danger of supporting the MSM, DOJ and Dem narrative and bogus charges against him, because even legitimate reasons to oppose him, such as his Ukraine position, his age, and his electability, gets lost in the noise.
I see now that the Golden Calf is about a 6-1 underdog for the nomination at Predictit. I think those odds are a good bet, I am making an investment. I think it is more like 3-1, just too many unknowns with Trump’s candidacy.
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I will add Hutchinson to my list of R candidates I would not vote for if they were running against Maxine Waters, along what “what I am doing here Vivek”, “Fat f–k Christie”, and “You must feel my pain Haley”.
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So, Jason only supports the pro-Putin Republicans. Or is Pence okay?
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