Looks like 10+ trade deals in the hopper. This will result in lower trade barriers for American companies. Jason may say he’s a “free trade” devotee. He’s not. He opposed the process used to accomplish this result. Jason just wants cheap gym shoes….
It does not appear that any major players (or minor players?) have run toward China. Instead, China is isolated, and all the players in their region publicly expressed eagerness to quickly cut a deal with Trump.
Also, “before engaging in tariff-based-panic, it’s good to note that Trump recently invoked the Defense Production Act (DPA) to accelerate domestic production of critical minerals.”
Big Joe and I probably disagree on most issues. But although he is (or was) a Dem he never came here to repeat talking points, and you could always have a meaningful discussion with him.
Jason, I think we’ll probably agree on a lot of things. In fact, I think most Americans will find lots of common ground. It’s only when people build up caricatures of “the other side” and then view every person even slightly leaning to that side as the caricature that we have problems.
Both parties love to build these caricatures of the other side. It’s a strategy that works. And it contributes to a reversion to tribalism and our eventual decline.
Part of successful negotiations is that there has to be a level of trust between the parties. Not sure how any nation can trust Trump regarding tariffs when he changes his position daily.
NYC to say trust but verify in 3…2…1….Not sure how you verify ever changing positions.”
“‘I can afford expensive gym shoes, so I oppose any form of international commere that would allow those less fortunate to be able to afford gym shoes too.”
Zzzzzzzz. I do not know about negotiating trade deals. I do know about negotiating thousands of settlements between injured people and insurance companies. Negotiating is negotiating.
But again, Trump may be a great negotiator, but that is not the point.
The point is that the “negotiating tactic” meme is pure BS given Trump’s 60 year advocacy for economic protectionism and isolationism and his repeated assertions that he is a “tariff man” and that he thinks tariff is the most beautiful word in the English language.
Trump believes in protectionism as a core value.
It is NOT a negotiating tactic.
And even if by bullying and coercion you get some countries to capitulate to it, this is not what free trade and free markets is about anymore than holding up someone with a gun and getting their wallet is a “negotiating tactic”.
So any predictions on CPI? This predictor model has been right about 80% of the time in the last 5 years. Not enough for comfort but worth a watch . They are strong on holds steady or slight decline. –
Consumer price inflation eased more than expected in March, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Thursday.
The consumer price index, a broad measure of goods and services costs across the U.S. economy, fell a seasonally adjusted 0.1% in March, putting the 12-month inflation rate at 2.4%, down from 2.8% in February.
Excluding food and energy, so-called core inflation ran at a 2.8% annual rate, having increased 0.1% for the month. That was the lowest rate for core inflation since March 2021.
Does anyone else have a problem with this website logging you out? I hit the comment button on the first CPI post at around 7 this morning. When I looked at my phone again at around 9, I noticed the comment hadn’t posted and the website was now asking me to log back in when I never logged out. I did that and hit post and then the comment went through. This has happened a number of times. Is there any way to stay logged and avoid this?
Still trying to figure out how Trump White House is “incompetent” while memory-holing the prior 4 year administration that was so well-run via autopen?!!!?
“And even if by bullying and coercion you get some countries to capitulate to it, this is not what free trade and free markets is about anymore than holding up someone with a gun and getting their wallet is a “negotiating tactic”.”
Asking other countries to LOWER their tariffs/barriers to trade with the United States, so that we are on more of an equal footing = “bullying and coercion”!!
NYC says….”Asking other countries to LOWER their tariffs/barriers to trade with the United States, so that we are on more of an equal footing = “bullying and coercion”!!”
A nice chat over tea or wine at the club would be more effective, eh?
Thanks NYCMike. That might explain it. I had the tree pruners set to come this AM (a must before hurricane season) and went around the property earlier to inspect what needed to be done beforehand. It was definitely out of WiFi range when I did that. Strange quirk but good to know.
“The 2024 presidential election is just five months in the rearview, but the country is already trudging toward the 2026 midterms — at least at the annual Pennsylvania Leadership Conference.
In a straw poll of 267 conference participants from eight states, including Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania state Treasurer Stacy Garrity was the clear favorite to win the Republican primary for its 2026 gubernatorial election. She received 41% of the vote, as Rep. Dan Meuser, R-Penn., came in a distant second at 9%.
While 2026 is still long down the road, and neither Pennsylvania politician has formally announced a run, both Republicans embraced the opportunity to tease their potential bids. “
Big Joe, I think what NYC, in his moronic fashion, is trying to say is that since Biden was incompetent, there is absolutely nothing Trump could do that could be termed incompetent.
Do you know what the word “incompetent” means? Maybe a dictionary will help.
And as for my use of that word to describe the administration’s rollout and flip flop, well it’s entirely accurate and appropriate. And guess what, I’m not on an island with that thinking. Musk, Cruz, Rand Paul, Fox Business and other Trump allies agree as well.
You’d have more credibility if you simply acknowledged that obvious, it’s ok to mess up. We all mess up from time to time. Trump messed up and found out. I give him credit for flipping. He’ll be fine in the long run because he caved. This will all be forgotten.
Jason is still smarting that he’s been wrong at every turn on the tariff issue.
He’ll say one of these days that the end result of lower tariffs on US exports is either a bad thing or would have occurred without Trump’s actions.
Not sure why an alleged free trader dislikes lower trade barriers. Maybe it’s because he was wrong about Trump’s plan to get there (hell, he probably still thinks the goal was to raise barriers).
Big Joe, Chicon doesn’t think Trump could ever do anything incompetent.
Because if he does, whatever he did that was incompetent (such as showing weakness by pausing tariffs) will immediately become competent (genius move).
Trump has never been risk-adverse in his business affairs, nor how he goes about presiding over his presidency. He believes in putting his ideas and policies on the table, to be dealt with publicly, in order to ascertain reactions and how well they perform. Yesterday Trump defined his methodology as being “flexible,” which is far afield from those attempting to label such tactics as incompetent. Despite the list of people opposing his tariff structure and rollout, there were many who either supported it or at least were in a more patient wait-and-see mode. In being flexible, though, Trump is willing to either stick with his positions, modify them, or discard them entirely. But at least he is unafraid to go against consensus thinking and try something new.
Tina has the right POV about isolating China. The target was always China, in trying to create a trading environment weakening their already slowing economy. There are no guarantees it will work. However, it certainly has gotten Xi’s attention, which is why he is personally going over to the Malaysian countries to exercise some Chinese muscle. A story is going around that he already has a team there talking to leaders in these countries. They have “business cards” they are giving out with their names inscribed on 30oz of gold. 10 business cards = $30,000, and more are promised to be given out as bribes.
Not sure why an alleged free trader dislikes lower trade barriers”
The sheer intellectual dishonesty in this statement is astounding.
It implies that imposing blanket tariffs on the whole world and starting trade wars with all its major trading partners is somehow “lowering trade barriers”.
Anyone with half a brain understands that tariffs and trade wars are designed to INCREASE trade barriers.
But in the end, I understand the philosophical divide here.
You can, like Trump, believe in tariffs and protectionism as a basic philosophy, either because you think you can raise revenues from them, you can protect domestic industry, you can incentivize domestic production, etc.
I think this is wrong. I think tariffs and protectionism are bad for the US, bad for the economy, bad for the domestic industry, bad for the world. I think if you cannot be competitive in world markets you should invest in innovation to make yourself competitive or concentrate in producing and exporting what your are competitive in. I don’t believe in subsidizing domestic production to please the union fat cats while producing obsolete goods.
There is a profound difference in philosophies there between those two views. Fine.
But let’s not pretend that Trump has advocated for protectionism and tariffs for 70 years because he is for free trade.
If you think he is right, make your case for protectionism. Don’t pretend it is something else.
“Trump had scolded Freedom Caucus members for “grandstanding” earlier in the week, however. He also called the resolution a “phenomenal bill,” making it clear that he expected a party-line level of support. The tax cuts mainly will consist of making the 2017 tax reforms permanent, as well as other reductions that Trump will need to balance out the effects of his tariffs, as well as unlocking funding for border security and other White House priorities.
The message clearly got through, at least eventually. And this also bolsters the Republicans in presenting themselves as a real governing force, especially in contrast to the infighting that paralyzed the House at times in the last session. Trump’s muscle-flexing and Johnson’s diplomacy has kept the GOP from forming circular firing squads when it matters most, a remarkable achievement for both men dealing with a wafer-thin majority. They are scoring wins on difficult issues, with policies that formed their electoral arguments. “
NEWS: Joe Kent in his confirmation hearing today claimed that Trump’s intelligence community is actively investigating the conspiracy theory that the FBI helped direct the Trump supporters who attacked the Capitol
Jason, if a year from now most countries trade barriers and tariffs on US products are substantially lower, and tariffs on US imports return to 2024 levels, would you consider it good for the US?
As I predicted a week or two ago, Trump’s caving on the unilaterally higher tariffs has weakened him considerably. For the rest of his Presidency, the countries with whom he will deal (and organizations like the EU and OPEC) will not take seriously any action he announces. They will wait for the reaction and the comedown.
China is a different matter. I have long believed and often stated that the only successful approach with China is removing MFN trading status and/or an embargo. Tariffs above 100% are essentially an embargo. Not much revenue will be raised – most imports will stop.
Oh, by the way – what ever happened to Peter Navarro’s $600 billion in tariff revenues? Maybe Chicon or janzem can explain what became of this windfall.
The Cultist will claim it was all part of the “negotiating strategy”.
Well yeah, I was talking more in terms of the real world, not the alternate reality that the Cultists live in. Perhaps I should have clarified. In the future I will be sure to do so. 😁
“Incompetence” was in reference to the Liberation Day fustercluck. If you followed the posts, you would see the context. Not sure why you are bring up women’s sports or govt waste. I made no reference to those topics and you may be surprised to find that me (and many left leaners) are in agreement with you.
Jason, if a year from now most countries trade barriers and tariffs on US products are substantially lower, and tariffs on US imports return to 2024 levels, would you consider it good for the US?”
Good for the US would be free trade, free markets, and free enterprise.
Second, it also depends on the volume of trade. In my view, these policies will damage the image of US products and services internationally. If there is less trade, and US exporters are doing less volume, it will be bad for the US.
If on the other hand international trade INCREASES, and both US imports and exports increase, I will consider it good for the US.
Headline: Teen Vogue Article: Trump’s Trans Surgery Ban for Minors is a “Death Sentence”
These people are evil. If there is any death sentence here it should be for “doctors” who lop off the private parts of a little boy who has been tricked into thinking he can be made into a girl, when he has NEVER ONCE experienced ejaculation to know if this is something he would prefer to keep.
Furthermore, if there is any chance for suicide, it is for the boy who gets his parts lopped off, and then grows up to learn that he is a freak who will never reproduce and never experience normal sexual function–all because nobody was the grown up in the room who sat him down and told him, “sorry, son, you were born a boy, and there is no way we can make you into a real girl.”
This is Day 81 of the Trump Administration, and yet BillW is demanding where Navarro’s $600 billion of tariff revenues are.?? Wow, I guess you want instant deal making, with instant money to materialize, before any policy can be looked at kindly. However, I think that’s called childish magical thinking.
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In a special mix of incompetence and evil, Trump has combined his disastrous implementation of 1930s tariff policies with Stalinesque targeting of political adversaries….”
“The promotion of Steven Jensen, the architect of the FBI’s overzealous January 6 investigation, to head the Washington Field Office has confounded Trump supporters and crushed their hopes that new FBI Director Kash Patel would reform the bureau and root out those who targeted Donald Trump and his supporters.
As the section chief of the Domestic Terrorism Operations Section at FBI Headquarters in Washington, DC, from 2020 until October 2021, Jensen also oversaw the FBI’s controversial operations targeting parents at school-board meetings and Catholics going to traditional Latin Mass.
Plucking him from relative obscurity in South Carolina to head the FBI’s most powerful field office sends exactly the wrong message.”
Sorry, Jan. Cult is my term for Trump’s adoring fans. You need a new word.
Actually, JeffP first used the label “cult”. You applied it secondarily to those who indicated any support for Trump’s policies. I’m going to now use it appropriately to those who demonstrate a visceral hatred of Trump. I also want to use it for those having a slavish love for Zelenskyy – no matter how worn out his soldiers are on the front lines, and dying because of his messianic desires to win.
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🚨 CNN: “Consumer prices month-over-month, so this was actually a DROP of .1% — that’s the first time we’ve seen that since COVID. Year-over-year, the annual inflation rate was at 2.4%. This was also BETTER THAN EXPECTED and a 6-month low, moving in the right direction.”
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I thought the HHR Economic Illuminati told us muh tariffs would cause inflation to rise?
Even CNN admitted the progress less than three months into this Administration.
So Chuck Todd admits the media was afraid of “diminishing Biden”
Okay, the truth will set you free.
“The only thing I can chalk it up to is this, whatever you want to call it, this fear that some members of the media had sometimes that they would be perceived as helping Trump if they somehow diminished Biden. Right? That it was some sort of zero-sum game. And I think this has been the fundamental mistake that many members of the traditional press have done.”
Liz hates the tariff policy and “retribution” against those who broke the law in the persecution of Trump.
Jason agrees.
Chicon”
Yes.
I oppose the tariff policy and I oppose copying the Biden era lawfare against political opponents. Those that favor retribution are no better than those that enacted lawfare in the first place.
But maybe Liz Cheney likes scrapple and llamas too.
Chicon, that new inflation report was welcome news. However, I just paid almost double what I paid 4 years ago to prune my trees. That inflation from the last 4 years is baked into the economy and for many things, prices won’t be going down to what they were. It’s all about holding the rate of increase to a healthy rate for an economy, which is what we got today.
Time to see if ManU can redeem themselves with a win against the French.
117 responses to “First day of PT. GFY”
Looks like 10+ trade deals in the hopper. This will result in lower trade barriers for American companies. Jason may say he’s a “free trade” devotee. He’s not. He opposed the process used to accomplish this result. Jason just wants cheap gym shoes….
It does not appear that any major players (or minor players?) have run toward China. Instead, China is isolated, and all the players in their region publicly expressed eagerness to quickly cut a deal with Trump.
Also, “before engaging in tariff-based-panic, it’s good to note that Trump recently invoked the Defense Production Act (DPA) to accelerate domestic production of critical minerals.”
https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/04/china-responds-to-us-tariffs-with-export-controls-on-critical-rare-earth-minerals/
Jason will have you believe that it is all happenstance. Of course, he’s cornered because he’s been wrong all along.
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Jason, I think we’ll probably agree on a lot of things. In fact, I think most Americans will find lots of common ground. It’s only when people build up caricatures of “the other side” and then view every person even slightly leaning to that side as the caricature that we have problems.
Both parties love to build these caricatures of the other side. It’s a strategy that works. And it contributes to a reversion to tribalism and our eventual decline.
Big Joe”
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You have a point.
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He opposed the process used to accomplish this result.”
LOL
The ole “f–king for virginity” BS.
You can’t make this sh-t up.
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Bitterlaw
April 9, 2025 at 11:36 pm
Part of successful negotiations is that there has to be a level of trust between the parties. Not sure how any nation can trust Trump regarding tariffs when he changes his position daily.
NYC to say trust but verify in 3…2…1….Not sure how you verify ever changing positions.”
Don’t you get it, Bitter?
Changing positions is part of the “process”!
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We’ve moved from Muh Tariffs to Muh Market Manipulation.
Chicon
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Bitter and Jason know more about negotiating than Trump. But, they don’t have TDS…..
Can’t make this up!!!
Chicon
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Jason may say he’s a “free trade” devotee. He’s not.”
The alternative universe is here!
The guy who opposes tariffs and trade wars is not for free trade.
The guy who supports tariffs and trade wars IS for free trade.
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Jason just wants cheap gym shoes….”
Translation:
“‘I can afford expensive gym shoes, so I oppose any form of international commere that would allow those less fortunate to be able to afford gym shoes too.”
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But, they don’t have TDS”
Zzzzzz….
I was advocating for free trade here when Trump was still funding Chuck Schumer and Planned Parenthood.
To pretend my positions on trade have anything to do with TDS is the worst kind of intellectual dishonesty.
GFY.
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Zzzzzzzz. I do not know about negotiating trade deals. I do know about negotiating thousands of settlements between injured people and insurance companies. Negotiating is negotiating.
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Jason says “Don’t you get it, Bitter? Changing positions is part of the “process”.
He knows more about negotiating than Trump. Jason is either a high-end narcissist or is delusional.
Trump does not need negotiating advice from HHR.
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Bitter and Jason know more about negotiating than Trump”
Trump is a billionaire so obviously he has has some major negotiating successes
But he has also had some epic “negotiating” failures.
Of course all of his failures were with other people’s money, let’s hope this isn’t the case now.
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Trump does not need negotiating advice from HHR.”
Well, he could have used some for:
New Jersey Generals
Trump Taj Mahal
Trump Shuttle
Go Trump travel
Trump Univ.
Trump Steaks
Trump Mortgage
Trump Magazine
Trump Vodka
Trump is still selling watches on the radio. I don’t know how that is going.
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But again, Trump may be a great negotiator, but that is not the point.
The point is that the “negotiating tactic” meme is pure BS given Trump’s 60 year advocacy for economic protectionism and isolationism and his repeated assertions that he is a “tariff man” and that he thinks tariff is the most beautiful word in the English language.
Trump believes in protectionism as a core value.
It is NOT a negotiating tactic.
And even if by bullying and coercion you get some countries to capitulate to it, this is not what free trade and free markets is about anymore than holding up someone with a gun and getting their wallet is a “negotiating tactic”.
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So any predictions on CPI? This predictor model has been right about 80% of the time in the last 5 years. Not enough for comfort but worth a watch . They are strong on holds steady or slight decline. –
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Bitter confirms he knows more about negotiating than Trump.
Alrighty….
Side note to Bitter – saying Trump knows more about negotiating than you is not a statement that you suck.
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well that was quick –
Consumer price inflation eased more than expected in March, the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported Thursday.
The consumer price index, a broad measure of goods and services costs across the U.S. economy, fell a seasonally adjusted 0.1% in March, putting the 12-month inflation rate at 2.4%, down from 2.8% in February.
Excluding food and energy, so-called core inflation ran at a 2.8% annual rate, having increased 0.1% for the month. That was the lowest rate for core inflation since March 2021.
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Zzzzzzz I did not say I know more about negating than Trump. I question Trump’s strategy of GFY and your country is pathetic and evil.
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Does anyone else have a problem with this website logging you out? I hit the comment button on the first CPI post at around 7 this morning. When I looked at my phone again at around 9, I noticed the comment hadn’t posted and the website was now asking me to log back in when I never logged out. I did that and hit post and then the comment went through. This has happened a number of times. Is there any way to stay logged and avoid this?
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Fla -Not sure. I don’t have that issue but I only post with my phone. What are you using to post?
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I use my iPhone and I log in through WordPress. It’s happened about 5 or six times in the past week.
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Jason will just keep repeating his same line about Trump and tariffs. Never learns.
Enforcing current law on the books won’t solve our immigration crisis either………
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Happens every now and then to me, Fla2025. Usually at work when I go from WiFi then outside range then back into WiFi.
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Where is Big Joe with inflation report?
Still trying to figure out how Trump White House is “incompetent” while memory-holing the prior 4 year administration that was so well-run via autopen?!!!?
Don’t mention his name!!
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”Side note to Bitter – saying Trump knows more about negotiating than you is not a statement that you suck.”
-I hope your PT instructor knows how sensitive you are!
In all seriousness, Good luck with it. Hope it goes well, Bitterlaw!
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“And even if by bullying and coercion you get some countries to capitulate to it, this is not what free trade and free markets is about anymore than holding up someone with a gun and getting their wallet is a “negotiating tactic”.”
Asking other countries to LOWER their tariffs/barriers to trade with the United States, so that we are on more of an equal footing = “bullying and coercion”!!
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Bitter said…..” I question Trump’s strategy of GFY and your country is pathetic and evil.”
It seems to have been pretty successful so far.
Good luck with PT. Another step on the return to normalcy.
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NYC may have the clue. I use cellular rather than WiFi on the phone.
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NYC says….”Asking other countries to LOWER their tariffs/barriers to trade with the United States, so that we are on more of an equal footing = “bullying and coercion”!!”
A nice chat over tea or wine at the club would be more effective, eh?
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What up , MIke.
Just curious, how long are you going to keep parroting the word “incompetent”?
Getting close to a 2.111 .. fyi
Big Joe
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Funny how a 2-3% move barely registers after the swings of the past week. 😂
Big Joe
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Thanks NYCMike. That might explain it. I had the tree pruners set to come this AM (a must before hurricane season) and went around the property earlier to inspect what needed to be done beforehand. It was definitely out of WiFi range when I did that. Strange quirk but good to know.
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Asking other countries to LOWER their tariffs/barriers to trade with the United States”
Is that what it was in the alternate universe?
Funny, in the real world what Trump did was impose blanket tariffs and start stupid trade wars
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Just curious, how long are you going to keep parroting the word “incompetent”?
Asking NYC to stop parroting talking points is like asking me to give up scrapple.
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Big Joe – I like when people explain the words they use.
You used the word “incompetence” to describe Trump and his administration. I’m asking you to explain why you think that word is appropriate.
I’m also bringing up the prior administration because you have NOT ever used the same word to describe the prior 4 years.
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Normalcy is relative term for me.
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“The 2024 presidential election is just five months in the rearview, but the country is already trudging toward the 2026 midterms — at least at the annual Pennsylvania Leadership Conference.
In a straw poll of 267 conference participants from eight states, including Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania state Treasurer Stacy Garrity was the clear favorite to win the Republican primary for its 2026 gubernatorial election. She received 41% of the vote, as Rep. Dan Meuser, R-Penn., came in a distant second at 9%.
While 2026 is still long down the road, and neither Pennsylvania politician has formally announced a run, both Republicans embraced the opportunity to tease their potential bids. “
Garrity would be a strong candidate.
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…..And the list of their incompetence would be pretty easy to make.
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Big Joe, I think what NYC, in his moronic fashion, is trying to say is that since Biden was incompetent, there is absolutely nothing Trump could do that could be termed incompetent.
I hope it is clear now.
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Or maybe, if you want to question Trump’s competence on any issue, you HAVE to refer to something Biden did that was incompetent.
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You used the word “incompetence” to describe Trump and his administration. I’m asking you to explain why you think that word is appropriate”
Big Joe, I will help you out.
Incompetent:
“not having or showing the necessary skills to do something successfully”
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Freedom Caucus hostage taking morons are trying to torpedo the big beautiful bill, effectively telling Trump to GFH.
Cultists between a rock and a hard place.
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Mike
Do you know what the word “incompetent” means? Maybe a dictionary will help.
And as for my use of that word to describe the administration’s rollout and flip flop, well it’s entirely accurate and appropriate. And guess what, I’m not on an island with that thinking. Musk, Cruz, Rand Paul, Fox Business and other Trump allies agree as well.
You’d have more credibility if you simply acknowledged that obvious, it’s ok to mess up. We all mess up from time to time. Trump messed up and found out. I give him credit for flipping. He’ll be fine in the long run because he caved. This will all be forgotten.
Big Joe
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Sweet.. Thanks Jason! So MIke, you don’t even need to go find that dictionary.
Cheers to you.
Big Joe
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Budget passes the House, goes to Trump for signature.
Freedom Caucus extracted commitment from Thune & Johnson that appropriations bills for 25/26 will be at least $1.5 trillion below baseline.
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He’ll be fine in the long run because he caved”
Caved?
Nah.
The Cultist will claim it was all part of the “negotiating strategy”.
Remember, Chicon went from “pausing tariffs is a sign of weakness” to “pausing was a genius negotiating” in a mere 48 hours!
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Getting it passed is a big win for Johnson, which is good, we don’t need any uncertainty regarding who is speaker.
Despite constant attacks on him by the FC hostage takers, he seems like he has firm control of the caucus.
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IMO one of the first productive things the Freedom Caucus has done in its existence.
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Hello Big Joe.
“Trump messed up and found out. I give him credit for flipping”
Getting much of the world to lower trade barriers while isolating China doesn’t seem like incompetence to me.
Closing the border to millions of illegal immigrants and deporting those here illegally doesn’t seem like incompetence to me.
Stopping men from participating in women’s sports doesn’t seem incompetent to me.
Making it tougher to cheat in elections doesn’t seem like incompetence to me.
Eliminating hundreds of billions of dollars in fraud and abuse doesn’t seem like incompetence to me.
These, and others may be policy choices with which you disagree, but they aren’t incompetence, imo.
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“Trump’s Big, Beautiful Bill Passed by the House this morning”
I love the smell of victory in the morning.
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CNBC….”Inflation Rate Eases to 2.4% in March, lower than expected, core at 4 year low”
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“In one case, someone with a birthday in 2154 claimed $41k,” the post also notes.
I think this means time travel does exist.
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Jason is still smarting that he’s been wrong at every turn on the tariff issue.
He’ll say one of these days that the end result of lower tariffs on US exports is either a bad thing or would have occurred without Trump’s actions.
Not sure why an alleged free trader dislikes lower trade barriers. Maybe it’s because he was wrong about Trump’s plan to get there (hell, he probably still thinks the goal was to raise barriers).
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Big Joe, Chicon doesn’t think Trump could ever do anything incompetent.
Because if he does, whatever he did that was incompetent (such as showing weakness by pausing tariffs) will immediately become competent (genius move).
I hope it is clear to you now.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-big-beautiful-tax-agenda-scores-major-victory-house-despite-gop-rebellion-threats
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Save Act also passed the House.
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The cpi number is great news. In it was a drop in gasoline prices. Stuff will get a lot cheaper now.
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Shh don’t tell the free passers this secret, chi:
“Getting much of the world to lower trade barriers while isolating China doesn’t seem like incompetence to me.”
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The Ccp are on an island. 70 countries will negotiate lose tariffs or eliminate them outright.
Xi is isolated as the cheap Ccp goods will be replaced by Vietnamese and Indian made products as an example.
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Imo, if the Freedom Caucus doesn’t push hard to codify the reduction in spending, the rest of the Pure Conservatives will never follow up.
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Trump has never been risk-adverse in his business affairs, nor how he goes about presiding over his presidency. He believes in putting his ideas and policies on the table, to be dealt with publicly, in order to ascertain reactions and how well they perform. Yesterday Trump defined his methodology as being “flexible,” which is far afield from those attempting to label such tactics as incompetent. Despite the list of people opposing his tariff structure and rollout, there were many who either supported it or at least were in a more patient wait-and-see mode. In being flexible, though, Trump is willing to either stick with his positions, modify them, or discard them entirely. But at least he is unafraid to go against consensus thinking and try something new.
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Biden was incompetent. Trump looks unfocused and undisciplined on the tariff issue. Both can be true.
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Tina has the right POV about isolating China. The target was always China, in trying to create a trading environment weakening their already slowing economy. There are no guarantees it will work. However, it certainly has gotten Xi’s attention, which is why he is personally going over to the Malaysian countries to exercise some Chinese muscle. A story is going around that he already has a team there talking to leaders in these countries. They have “business cards” they are giving out with their names inscribed on 30oz of gold. 10 business cards = $30,000, and more are promised to be given out as bribes.
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Trump looks unfocused and undisciplined
Even the dem media says Trump looks confident.
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Not sure why an alleged free trader dislikes lower trade barriers”
The sheer intellectual dishonesty in this statement is astounding.
It implies that imposing blanket tariffs on the whole world and starting trade wars with all its major trading partners is somehow “lowering trade barriers”.
Anyone with half a brain understands that tariffs and trade wars are designed to INCREASE trade barriers.
But in the end, I understand the philosophical divide here.
You can, like Trump, believe in tariffs and protectionism as a basic philosophy, either because you think you can raise revenues from them, you can protect domestic industry, you can incentivize domestic production, etc.
I think this is wrong. I think tariffs and protectionism are bad for the US, bad for the economy, bad for the domestic industry, bad for the world. I think if you cannot be competitive in world markets you should invest in innovation to make yourself competitive or concentrate in producing and exporting what your are competitive in. I don’t believe in subsidizing domestic production to please the union fat cats while producing obsolete goods.
There is a profound difference in philosophies there between those two views. Fine.
But let’s not pretend that Trump has advocated for protectionism and tariffs for 70 years because he is for free trade.
If you think he is right, make your case for protectionism. Don’t pretend it is something else.
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Even the dem media says Trump looks confident.”
Damm, Bitter is more observant than the Dem media?
Who wouda thunk?
I don’t think going on TV and saying “well I backed down because people were getting a little yippy” is exuding “confidence” but maybe it is just me.
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Tariffs against the Ccp are now 145%.
Xi is on an island.
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Dow already gave back half the gains. Down 1700.
Probably because the market understands a trade war with China is not in our interest either.
The inflation report and passing the budget resolution should have helped the market today.
What is weighing it down is the understanding the trade policy is risking higher prices and a recession.
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You really are a paper tiger, Jason.
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Ok then.
“Trump had scolded Freedom Caucus members for “grandstanding” earlier in the week, however. He also called the resolution a “phenomenal bill,” making it clear that he expected a party-line level of support. The tax cuts mainly will consist of making the 2017 tax reforms permanent, as well as other reductions that Trump will need to balance out the effects of his tariffs, as well as unlocking funding for border security and other White House priorities.
The message clearly got through, at least eventually. And this also bolsters the Republicans in presenting themselves as a real governing force, especially in contrast to the infighting that paralyzed the House at times in the last session. Trump’s muscle-flexing and Johnson’s diplomacy has kept the GOP from forming circular firing squads when it matters most, a remarkable achievement for both men dealing with a wafer-thin majority. They are scoring wins on difficult issues, with policies that formed their electoral arguments. “
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They are the same bill practically.
However, the house calls for $1 trillion in cuts, the senate (gop-e) call for more spending.
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You really are a paper tiger, Jason.”
There must be slow news over at Russian State TV or Gateway Pundit trash, janzam has time to read my posts.
Maybe things will pick up later with some bombing of a Ukrainian school or hospital the Putin Nurse can celebrate.
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So many conspiracy theories are eventually discovered to be discredited facts.
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NEWS: Joe Kent in his confirmation hearing today claimed that Trump’s intelligence community is actively investigating the conspiracy theory that the FBI helped direct the Trump supporters who attacked the Capitol
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Jason, if a year from now most countries trade barriers and tariffs on US products are substantially lower, and tariffs on US imports return to 2024 levels, would you consider it good for the US?
Chicon
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Maybe the talks with Iran will go nowhere and Trump will bomb the hell out of them. That’ll improve his mood.
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As I predicted a week or two ago, Trump’s caving on the unilaterally higher tariffs has weakened him considerably. For the rest of his Presidency, the countries with whom he will deal (and organizations like the EU and OPEC) will not take seriously any action he announces. They will wait for the reaction and the comedown.
China is a different matter. I have long believed and often stated that the only successful approach with China is removing MFN trading status and/or an embargo. Tariffs above 100% are essentially an embargo. Not much revenue will be raised – most imports will stop.
Oh, by the way – what ever happened to Peter Navarro’s $600 billion in tariff revenues? Maybe Chicon or janzem can explain what became of this windfall.
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Helped people do what they wanted to do anyway?
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“Deal-making is an art,” said Senator Kennedy. “President Trump has clearly mastered the art. It was an impressive couple of weeks.”
Another addition to the loooooong list of Republicans who’ve made Jason’s Moron List.
Chicon
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Well yeah, I was talking more in terms of the real world, not the alternate reality that the Cultists live in. Perhaps I should have clarified. In the future I will be sure to do so. 😁
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Sorry Bill, you’ll have to settle for $7 trillion of investment in the US since January.
America is getting what it voted for; that’s how the system works.
If that’s got you chafed, I suggest an ointment.
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Sorry Bill, you’ll have to settle for $7 trillion of investment in the US since January”
So that’s about $4 trillion less investments than we had before Trump’s trade wars?
WE ARE WINNING!
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Hey chicon,
“Incompetence” was in reference to the Liberation Day fustercluck. If you followed the posts, you would see the context. Not sure why you are bring up women’s sports or govt waste. I made no reference to those topics and you may be surprised to find that me (and many left leaners) are in agreement with you.
Big Joe
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We got $1 trillion in investment from Demented in 4 years. Isn’t he great?
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Jason, if a year from now most countries trade barriers and tariffs on US products are substantially lower, and tariffs on US imports return to 2024 levels, would you consider it good for the US?”
Good for the US would be free trade, free markets, and free enterprise.
Second, it also depends on the volume of trade. In my view, these policies will damage the image of US products and services internationally. If there is less trade, and US exporters are doing less volume, it will be bad for the US.
If on the other hand international trade INCREASES, and both US imports and exports increase, I will consider it good for the US.
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https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/big-beautiful-budget-passes-the-house-mstef/
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Not sure why you are bring up women’s sports or govt waste.”
Because he ran out of talking points and would have had to think for himself.
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Headline: Teen Vogue Article: Trump’s Trans Surgery Ban for Minors is a “Death Sentence”
These people are evil. If there is any death sentence here it should be for “doctors” who lop off the private parts of a little boy who has been tricked into thinking he can be made into a girl, when he has NEVER ONCE experienced ejaculation to know if this is something he would prefer to keep.
Furthermore, if there is any chance for suicide, it is for the boy who gets his parts lopped off, and then grows up to learn that he is a freak who will never reproduce and never experience normal sexual function–all because nobody was the grown up in the room who sat him down and told him, “sorry, son, you were born a boy, and there is no way we can make you into a real girl.”
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America is getting what it voted for; that’s how the system works”
I must of missed the part where Trump promised to tank the savings and pensions and retirement funds of millions of Americans.
Or that he was going to raise prices on items that the poorest Americans can least afford have raised.
That is why you always have to read the fine print.
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This is Day 81 of the Trump Administration, and yet BillW is demanding where Navarro’s $600 billion of tariff revenues are.?? Wow, I guess you want instant deal making, with instant money to materialize, before any policy can be looked at kindly. However, I think that’s called childish magical thinking.
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In the meantime, a hostage was released by Russia yesterday. Inflation is the lowest it’s been in 4 years. And, Komrade von der Leyen Orders Pause on EU Retaliation Tariffs Pending Engagement with Trump Administration. Why do anti-Trump Cultists rarely observe the good that is happening, while always amplifying the bad?
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Jan sez….”BillW is demanding where Navarro’s $600 billion of tariff revenues are.??”
Jan, Bill can’t stand Trump. He seems to not be a fan of the stereotypical Trump supporter.
He did, iirc, say that the country would be better off if other countries lowered their tariffs. Let’s see if he sticks with that…..
Chicon
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Actually, the tariff will be paid by American businesses and consumers but you know that.
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What connection does comrade von der leven have with Ursula.
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(if any)*
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Sorry, Jan. Cult is my term for Trump’s adoring fans. You need a new word.
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Wussing alert
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Liz has come out in support of Jason….
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In a special mix of incompetence and evil, Trump has combined his disastrous implementation of 1930s tariff policies with Stalinesque targeting of political adversaries….”
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Uh oh, …
Will Kash Patel make Tina’s RINO list?
Stay tuned.
“The promotion of Steven Jensen, the architect of the FBI’s overzealous January 6 investigation, to head the Washington Field Office has confounded Trump supporters and crushed their hopes that new FBI Director Kash Patel would reform the bureau and root out those who targeted Donald Trump and his supporters.
As the section chief of the Domestic Terrorism Operations Section at FBI Headquarters in Washington, DC, from 2020 until October 2021, Jensen also oversaw the FBI’s controversial operations targeting parents at school-board meetings and Catholics going to traditional Latin Mass.
Plucking him from relative obscurity in South Carolina to head the FBI’s most powerful field office sends exactly the wrong message.”
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Zzzzz….
So now I am guilty of “association” with Liz Cheney?
She is correct that Trump is following the failed AFL-CIO agenda of the last 70 years.
But I have said that here for years long before Liz Cheney became a TDS moron.
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Why do anti-Trump Cultists”
Hmmm…
The Putin nurse thinks you can be anti-Trump Cultist?
Cult: a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object
Don’t think so.
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Stalinesque targeting of political adversaries….”
I wonder what it was called when Biden did it?
“Lincolnesque”?
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Liz hates the tariff policy and “retribution” against those who broke the law in the persecution of Trump.
Jason agrees.
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“Stalinesque targeting of political adversaries….”
Easy setup, but Jason beat me to it.
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Sorry, Jan. Cult is my term for Trump’s adoring fans. You need a new word.
Actually, JeffP first used the label “cult”. You applied it secondarily to those who indicated any support for Trump’s policies. I’m going to now use it appropriately to those who demonstrate a visceral hatred of Trump. I also want to use it for those having a slavish love for Zelenskyy – no matter how worn out his soldiers are on the front lines, and dying because of his messianic desires to win.
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“Cult: a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object”
Ya mean like Jason and Bitter with Zelenskyy?
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Oh no, more proof of trump stiffing others. I am sure the lawsuits will be filed and accepted by the Marxist district judges
https://protrumpnews.com/doge-cancels-108-contracts-70m-in-savings/
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🚨 CNN: “Consumer prices month-over-month, so this was actually a DROP of .1% — that’s the first time we’ve seen that since COVID. Year-over-year, the annual inflation rate was at 2.4%. This was also BETTER THAN EXPECTED and a 6-month low, moving in the right direction.”
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I thought the HHR Economic Illuminati told us muh tariffs would cause inflation to rise?
Even CNN admitted the progress less than three months into this Administration.
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So Chuck Todd admits the media was afraid of “diminishing Biden”
Okay, the truth will set you free.
“The only thing I can chalk it up to is this, whatever you want to call it, this fear that some members of the media had sometimes that they would be perceived as helping Trump if they somehow diminished Biden. Right? That it was some sort of zero-sum game. And I think this has been the fundamental mistake that many members of the traditional press have done.”
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Ya mean like Jason and Bitter with Zelenskyy?”
Epic fail.
I always said here that making it about Zelensky was a Putin lover tactic.
I always supported Ukraine. Zelensky is a symbol of resistance to Russia, nothing more, nothing less.
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Liz hates the tariff policy and “retribution” against those who broke the law in the persecution of Trump.
Jason agrees.
Chicon”
Yes.
I oppose the tariff policy and I oppose copying the Biden era lawfare against political opponents. Those that favor retribution are no better than those that enacted lawfare in the first place.
But maybe Liz Cheney likes scrapple and llamas too.
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Chicon, that new inflation report was welcome news. However, I just paid almost double what I paid 4 years ago to prune my trees. That inflation from the last 4 years is baked into the economy and for many things, prices won’t be going down to what they were. It’s all about holding the rate of increase to a healthy rate for an economy, which is what we got today.
Time to see if ManU can redeem themselves with a win against the French.
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the full effect of inflation won’t be felt until everyone has to go through a full cycle of purchases…
Car
Roofing
Refridgerator
washing machine and dryer
dishwasher
And many other items.
People can pay a few of these, but all together, its crippling inflation.
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it’s like the food inflation . Some prices may be going down now but there was a 28% increase under demented.
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DW – Do you a new Where is it or should I start a new thread?
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I am about to start a new thread
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