Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 41.6 / 55.6 | -14.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 45.5 / 52.1 | -6.6 |
 | GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +21 | 207 | 228 |
Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 41.6 / 55.6 | -14.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 45.5 / 52.1 | -6.6 |
| GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +21 | 207 | 228 |
The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
156 responses to “Inauguration Day!”
Those that come after me must bow to my greatness.
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Time’s inauguration photo is very cool.
https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1881061363625398426?ref_src=twsrctfw|twcamptweetembed|twterm1881061363625398426|twgre0550e8e1e28debafda7746c79ac488960ecb651|twcons1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fhotair.com%2Fheadlines%2F2025%2F01%2F19%2Fdawg-times-inauguration-cover-is-en-fuego-n3798982
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Today is Trump’s Day.
As such, I will give free passes on those wanting to compare him to Mother Theresa, Jesus Christ, God, Reagan, Lincoln, Lord of the Universe, Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, Peter the Great, Napoleon, you name it.
There WILL be a free lunch.
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Huh, Alexander the Great, but Peter can be great too,
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Biden said he didn’t pardon himself because “I didn’t do anything wrong”.
So under that standard….
President Joe Biden on Monday issued pardons for Gen. Mark Milley, Dr. Anthony Fauci and members of Congress who served on the committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol.
The pardons, coming in the final hours of Biden’s president, amount to an extraordinary flex of presidential power. They serve to protect several outspoken critics of President-elect Donald Trump, including former Republican Rep. Liz Cheney, whom Trump has vowed retribution against.”
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Mother Theresa, Jesus Christ, God, Reagan, Lincoln, Lord of the Universe, Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, Peter the Great, Napoleon,
I will take “Historical figures Walt knew” for $600
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Biden might have done Trump a favor by these pardons. Pursuing them would have been an unnecessary distraction, and it doesn’t preclude airing out of their actions even if not criminally liable.
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how can you pardon someone not even charged with a crime, much less convicted?
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Now Trump can say they are criminals unfairly protected by the dementia-addled Biden. That may be better, as he can claim that from day 1 of his term through the rest of his life.
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And no messy hearings to sidetrack the real work needed to fix the Biden/Dem dumpster fire
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Yet, I feel like leaving this entirely alone would set a terrible precedent. The president should not have the power to insulate his cronies against charges being brought much less the entire judicial process. Its one thing to show clemency to some 84 year old woman who has already spent 30 years in prison on a first offense shoplifting. But to give clemency protection to people who have yet to be charged or found guilty is terrible and the SCOTUS should speak to the constitutional viability.
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Ask the ghost of Gerald Ford.
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But what did the criminals do? Didn’t they have underlings, who were not pardoned. Very interesting.
separately, 200 exec orders today, including terminating birth right.
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I stil think Milley can be recalled to active duty and punished by the military.
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Trump will designate international cartels and crime organizations like Tren de Aragua and MS-13 as Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs) and Specially Designated Global Terrorists (SDGTs).
I bet the Mexican cartels get the same treatment.
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including terminating birth right.
I oppose this and I doubt it is constitutional
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But to give clemency protection to people who have yet to be charged or found guilty is terrible and the SCOTUS should speak to the constitutional viability.”
I doubt it is unconstitutional. Nixon wasn’t charged with anything, he got.a “pre-emptive” pardon.
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Hope springs eternal over at MSNBC.
“If Trump’s second term is a disaster right out of the gate, his party may take a beating in the 2026 midterms.”
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“The birthright citizenship provision in the 14th Amendment reads: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
I doubt Trump can do away with this by EO.
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Fetterman arrives in shorts.
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1881359314318946690
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I agree. If you are born in the U.S., you are a citizen. I do not see a way around that clear language. So, the individual starts as a citizen at birth. The next step would be to try to revoke citizenship but that is not easy.
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Trump just said he WILL declassify all files related to the JFK assassination. One of two things will be true:
1) The government killed JFK and covered it up and fought for decades to keep people from knowing the truth.
2) The files will tell us nothing and be incredibly boring and show that we overclassify documents to give unimpressive people unnecessary jobs with silly titles.”
I bet it will be 2)
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Drudge main headline
I HAVE A SCHEME
PRESIDENT LAUNCHES CRYPTO AT INAUGURATION
MAKES $58 BILLION”
It’s going to be a tough 4 years for the leftists.
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Option 3 – The files will confirm that Oswald acted alone but the conspiracy theorists will immediately claim that there are more files that are being hidden.
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Of course.
Conspiracy theorists don’t believe in facts, they believe in conspiracy theories.
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1880973122100494404?s=42
Snoop Dogg with a change of heart.
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Vance is now VP.
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Trump is now President. Again.
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the golden age of America begins now
The scales of Justice will be rebalanced.
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Inaugural address is a campaign speech.
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Joe and Kamala look like they ate a crap sandwich. Beautiful.
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“From this moment on, America’s decline is over.”
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Trump says his life was saved by God. I guess God cared more about a billionaire politician than my 25 year old social worker niece.
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TRUMP: We are confronting a crisis of trust. Our citizens have had their wealth extracted. Our government cannot manage a simple crisis at home, and stumbles into catastrophic events abroad. It fails to protect law-abiding citizens, but provide sanctuary for dangerous criminals who illegally entered. It has given unlimited funding for foreign borders, but refuses to defend American borders.
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Imo, campaign promises should match policies.
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Trump to declare national emergency at southern border. It will be shut.
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Gonna be a long four years for Bitter.
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Cartels to be declared as ftos.
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Sorry, Bitter, lots of people believe in God….
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cites 1798 act- foreign enemies act to round up illegals/criminal.
Will declare national energy emergency, will drill.
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Full back pay and reinstatement for those soldiers who refused the Covid vax.
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Gubment recognizes only 2 genders.
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Gulf of Mexico renamed to gulf of americas
mt McKinley reinstated.
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Zzzzzzz There are many policies of Trump I support. He is not a good public speaker. Both can be true.
I will never accept that God valued the life of Trump over that of my niece. If he did, I renounce my Faith.
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We are taking out canal back.
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And Trump was worth saving but my niece wasn’t?
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How convenient and coincidental are the following:
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Demented issued pardons to several family members.
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Ask God. Thousands of family members of those slaughtered by Hamas ask the same thing. Let me know when you get an answer.
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“The birthright citizenship provision in the 14th Amendment reads: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
“Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
-For some reason, the 14th Amendment section posted by jason doesn’t include the words “and of the state wherein they reside.” Which one is correct?
(Personally, if the one I posted is correct, I am SURPRISED that Bitterlaw didn’t point that out.)
How does this work for children of ambassadors from other countries, who are born here while their parents are on assignment and while those parents have immunity from our laws? The children don’t get immunity from our laws like their parents have? Seems like there is a question for the Supreme Court and jason and Bitterlaw should not be so certain in their flippant attitude towards citizenship and any questions pertaining to it.
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What do “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” and “and of the state wherein they reside.” mean in the context of that Amendment?
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That is why I believe it is absurd to think God decides who lives and dies.
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Even with that added verbiage (deleted verbiage???) I still don’t believe the Supreme Court would have enough votes to overturn birthright citizenship. Now, again, the question of what did they really mean will be brought up, but, the wording is the wording, its now what they meant, but what they wrote that matters.
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Maybe Chi can tell me why God valued Trump’s life over that of my niece.
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“All persons” somehow becomes flippant to NYC.
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What do “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” and “and of the state wherein they reside.” mean in the context of that Amendment?”
Exactly that.
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, but, the wording is the wording, its now what they meant, but what they wrote that matters.”
I doubt it meant that there is any dispute of what “born in the US” means.
But Vic is right, there is no way the SC will go along with this.
Taking bets.
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““All persons” somehow becomes flippant to NYC.”
-How does it work for ambassadors child born here, Bitterlaw?
The parents retain immunity from our laws, but the children are “subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”?
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Look it up or pay me to look it up.
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For some reason, the 14th Amendment section posted by jason doesn’t include the words “and of the state wherein they reside.” Which one is correct?”
The reason it is in quotes is because I quoted it as written.
But whether it should include the “state in which they reside” doesn’t change “All persons born in the US or naturalized”.
Trump can say anything he wants in an EO, I am sure anybody born in the US will continue to be American.
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“Look it up or pay me to look it up.”
-This is for my question?
Ok, got it, you don’t know.
Let me investigate.
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Ask God.
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“Trump can say anything he wants in an EO, I am sure anybody born in the US will continue to be American.”
-Children of ambassador?
Do you know?
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Children born in the United States to foreign diplomats are not automatically U.S. citizens. This is because they are not considered to be under the jurisdiction of the United States.”
Remember, foreign embassies are considered sovereign territory.
But anyone born in the US outside of diplomatic circles is “under US jurisdiction” and therefore a citizen.
Anyone who thinks the SC would change this is smoking some good sh-t.
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Bitter is now a Constitutional Law expert. Who knew?
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More.
Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Based on the first sentence of Section 1, the Court has held that a child born in the United States of Chinese parents who were ineligible to be naturalized themselves is nevertheless a citizen of the United States entitled to all the rights and privileges of citizenship.1 The requirement that a person be however, excludes its application to children born of diplomatic representatives of a foreign state, children born of alien enemies in hostile occupation,2 or children of members of Indian tribes subject to tribal laws.3 In addition, the citizenship of children born on vessels in United States territorial waters or on the high seas has generally been held by the lower courts to be determined by the citizenship of the parents.4 Citizens of the United States within the meaning of this Amendment must be natural and not artificial persons; a corporate body is not a citizen of the United States.5
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I suppose Trump could allege children of illegals are part of a hostile occupation.
I doubt it would prosper.
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https://www.uscisguide.com/citizenship/u-s-citizenship-and-children-of-diplomats/
-Looks like they may be, could be, automatically are, and/or aren’t.
It also looks like that is an opportunity to get rid of this, since there is such ambiguity.
Start the Amendment process to make sure we clearly say that illegals should not be able to come here illegally and have children who automatically become citizens, and to clearly outline the rules.
Let’s see who who is against that common sense action.
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In any event, I would vehemently oppose any change in this constitutional provision.
But to those who disagree, good luck.
I predict it will never happen in our lifetimes.
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“who who” is Owl-speak for “who” in English
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Let’s see who who is against that common sense action.”
Me, me, me.
We should have secure borders.
Any child born in the US should be American.
Both can be true.
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“In any event, I would vehemently oppose any change in this constitutional provision.”
-Reasons?
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“We should have secure borders.”
-LOL!
“but we need new, comprehensive laws to do that! The ones on the books don’t work!”
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Start the Amendment process”
Go right ahead.
I will personally oppose it.
But if 38 states ratify it, fine, that is the way it works.
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“In any event, I would vehemently oppose any change in this constitutional provision.”-Reasons?
I think if you are born in the US you are American. I don’t care where your parents came from and how they got here.
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“but we need new, comprehensive laws to do that! The ones on the books don’t work!”
Why?
Doing nothing has produced 20 million illegals, while we were waiting for the last 40 years and 8 presidents to “enforce current laws”.
There won’t be any “mass deportations”, if Trump deports 5% of them it will be a great success.
But, hey WE ARE WINNING.
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I did not claim that but I will put my law degree up against yours. Oh, wait. Sorry.
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And guess what, all the children of those 20 million illegals that came in while NYC was waiting for “current immigration laws” to be enforced and his bleating WE ARE WINNING will the American.
Taking bets.
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Will be American.
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“I think if you are born in the US you are American. I don’t care where your parents came from and how they got here.”
-Ok, what happens when the child who is born here, chooses to return with his/her parents if they are deported, lives in another country for 25 years, gets married and has kids……are his wife and children also American citizens? They weren’t born here.
How is citizenship conferred?
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Millions will be born while the Amendment is debated.
WE ARE WINNING.
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Once again, jason resorts to flippancy, with his sophomoric “WE ARE WINNING” stupidity.
The last Congress tried to put into law allowing almost 2 million ILLEGALS every year.
The laws on the books are fine, it is the execution of those laws which are the issue.
SAME AS IT WAS IN NYC before Rudy, and the SAME AS IT IS NOW! The Executive Branch in this city refuses to enforce the law, same as our Executive Branch in the federal government has refused.
Of course, jason knows this, but excuses this behavior for some odd reason.
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cbp app ended.
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Ok, what happens when the child who is born here, chooses to return with his/her parents if they are deported, lives in another country for 25 years, gets married and has kids……are his wife and children also American citizens? They weren’t born here.”
OK that is an easy one, I happen to know that from my work.
If both parents are American, then the children can be registered in foreign embassies as American.
However, if ONE parent is American and the other is not, there is a residency requirement.
It is complicated scroll down to the bottom
https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-h-chapter-3
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The laws on the books are fine, it is the execution of those laws which are the issue.”
LOL
They haven’t been enforced in 40 years, not even by Trump.
20 million illegals have entered the country while you are waiting for them to be enforced.
But you think WE ARE WINNING.
You are a stupid moron, you deserve to live with the consequences of your stupidity.
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gets married and has kids……are his wife and children also American citizens?”
If his wife is naturalized and is American then the children can be registered as American, but there are some residency requirements.
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Is AOC crying down at the border yet?
This will be 24/7 on every network.
Women voters already going to Instagram to express their remorse.
Hopefully the Trump administration is prepared to win the PR war this time around.
It is terrible to have to turn away millions of good people, but unfortunately, it has to be done.
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Watched the Inauguration-my thoughts…
I was disappointed by Trump’s speech. Way too harsh and blunt. It was a campaign speech that some it was already spoken the day earlier at the Victory Rally. We get it, most America gets it. That’s why Trump won. He was adding insult to injury to the previous administration. The campaign is over. The election was over. It wasn’t, in my opinion, the place for it. Very little unifying words. It looked too much like a State of the Union speech.
I would give a 1.5 or 2 out of 10.
Also, Pastor Lorenzo Sewell stole the show. Now that was a unifying speech.
But again, my thoughts. That and $6.50 will get you triple Americano at your local Starbucks.
PS-the pardons of Fauci, Milley and the Biden family just minutes before the ‘swearing in’ was too much to bear. It cements Biden as one of the worst presidents in my lifetime.
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“But you think WE ARE WINNING.”
-No, I do not we are winning. I am well aware of how badly BOTH PARTIES in the White House have acted, Reagan and both Bushes much more so than Trump, with Biden the worst.
But, I do know that the onus for failure is on the non-execution of the laws, not on the actual written legislation.
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“You are a stupid moron, you deserve to live with the consequences of your stupidity.”
-This seems appropriate:
I’m rubber, you’re glue……
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“If his wife is naturalized and is American then the children can be registered as American, but there are some residency requirements.”
-No, his wife is not naturalized. She is a citizen of wherever. He is the only citizen, because he was born in the U.S. when his mom was here illegally, and then went with here when she was deported.
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@EricLDaugh
BREAKING: Senate likely to confirm Marco Rubio as Secretary of State tonight, and pass the Laken Riley Act – Fox
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Interesting battle between NYC (who is only a citizen because he was born in the U.S.) and Jason (who is a citizen because he applied for citizenship and went through the naturalization process).
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I’m happy God saved NYC’s life so he can participate so well here.
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Battle?
There is ambiguity in the law.
Shouldn’t there be clear rules on how citizenship is conferred (is this correct word?) to each individual?
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“I’m happy God saved NYC’s life so he can participate so well here.”
-I second that!
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So NYC was better than my niece. This is why Chi is a clown.
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NYC says…Battle?
Everything is a battle to Bitter and Jason. It’s who they are….
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Please notice – I don’t question jason’s citizenship at all, nor do I question his children’s citizenship, although I am assuming they were all born after he became an American citizen, and God Bless him and his family.
As for my citizenship, I “only” got that BECAUSE both sets of grandparents followed the laws to immigrate to America, and followed all the laws while they were here going through the process, and then both parents also “only” got citizenship because of their parents status as citizens.
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Bitter says….”So NYC was better than my niece. This is why Chi is a clown.”
Bitter is suffering greatly from the loss of his niece. Anyone with any humanity feels for him.
People with strong religious convictions believe God has a plan for them. Bitter does not have the right to attack their beliefs because he is in pain.
All are true.
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That is why I believe it is absurd to think God decides who lives and dies.
Have you not heard about God conferring people with “free will?” He does not decide fate. Trump being spared is more a miracle of chance than anything else. However, when Trump expresses gratitude, for any intervention by God, it’s his way of being thankful for still being alive.
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“So NYC was better than my niece. This is why Chi is a clown.”
Bitterlaw – I pray for you, and your niece, and a friend of mine from childhood, who died 2 years after her husband died, who had died the week before their child’s first birthday, leaving a beautiful little girl to be raised by her grandparents, whom she will watch grow old and die……..and I’m mindful that I want her to be around to see her grandparents die, since that means she will still be alive…….so I want her to have to deal with even more loss than she already has.
Is that right or wrong?
Life isn’t fair.
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“Bitter is suffering greatly from the loss of his niece. Anyone with any humanity feels for him.”
-Agreed.
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No way 38 States pass this amendment so its DOA. Honestly not worth the time to debate it.
An interesting side note to all these Biden pardon’s, in legal terms (and Bitter is better fit to validate this, if what I read is correct) by pardoning these people, and their acceptance, they are viewed as guilty of a crime, because you can only be pardoned if guilty. It is why some are considering not taking/accepting his pardon
John Goggin – you are exactly spot on. These do cement Biden as the worst President of our lifetime, and probably the past 100 years or more. He is worse than Carter, who was at the least, a moral man who was just wrong on almost every issue.
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Life is not fair. God takes no role in who lives or dies. Both can be true.
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And it is arrogant nonsense.
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Eric Daugherty
@EricLDaugh
BREAKING: Trump plans to pardon non-violent Jan. 6th defendants, commute the sentences of those convicted of “more serious” offenses – CNN /
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Apparently included in Biden’s final pardons were pardons for even the staff of the J6 Select Committee. Consequently, I think Trump should pardon, in mass, all the J6 prisoners. Since so much evidence was either destroyed or manipulated by the J6 Committee, I think all persecutions should be treated like “fruit from a poisonous tree” and nullified.
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All pending j6 cases are dismissed (Cn and n)
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“No way 38 States pass this amendment so its DOA. Honestly not worth the time to debate it.”
-VictrC,
I think you are incorrect. This is a winning issue for Republicans in the inner city if framed correctly, meaning that the mainstream media can’t be allowed to set the narrative, and I think these days, with X and other platforms, it can be achieved.
I look at reactions in Chicago and in NYC, once current citizens see all of the benefits that illegals get, while they don’t, makes this a worthy debate.
To just lay down and accept the status quo is weak, and unprincipled.
ILLEGAL immigration is ILLEGAL. Don’t reward ILLEGAL behavior.
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“Apparently included in Biden’s final pardons were pardons for even the staff of the J6 Select Committee. Consequently, I think Trump should pardon, in mass, all the J6 prisoners. Since so much evidence was either destroyed or manipulated by the J6 Committee, I think all persecutions should be treated like “fruit from a poisonous tree” and nullified.”
-Because of that pardon, I’m leaning more to this way of thinking now, although I would like those who committed violence to be pardoned at a later date from those who were just “trespassing”.
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““No way 38 States pass this amendment so its DOA. Honestly not worth the time to debate it.””
-Again, not sure how making Democrats show support for ILLEGAL activity has a downside.
Either 38 states pass it, or at the least, you provide a clear picture for all voters.
There are videos of Hillary, Schumer and many other Democrats speaking out against illegals back in the 2006-2014 years, because voters agreed with that sentiment, and still do. Make it so the Democrats have to take a stand IN FAVOR OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
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“-Because of that pardon, I’m leaning more to this way of thinking now, although I would like those who committed violence to be pardoned at a later date from those who were just “trespassing”.”
-Oops, looks like it is already done. Missed the Daugherty post.
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NYC, I’d look at clemency for violent J6ers, rather than pardons.
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I think I predicted what would happen.
pending cases dismissed
sentences commuted for violent offenders. Have to do it since many received excess sentences by the dc courts of corruption.
non violent are pardoned.
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“NYC, I’d look at clemency for violent J6ers, rather than pardons.”
-Is that what a commutation does?
Bitterlaw?
Or should I look it up?
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I still think he is recalled and dealt with by the military.
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“I still think he is recalled and dealt with by the military.”
-Good.
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I was disappointed by Trump’s speech. Way too harsh and blunt.
Some probably heard Trump’s speech in that way, while others have said they considered it one of the “best inaugural speech’s” ever given. I personally liked his tone, and it detailed the bulk of EOs he was ready to sign. Sure, there were fragments of campaign speeches filtered throughout this speech, along with a refined notification of how government was changing under his leadership. Trump’s rhetoric, however, has not been known for soaring, fluffy commentary. Rather, he has always portrayed himself as a pragmatist utilizing common sense over empty promises or congeniality.
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Shipwreckedcrew
@shipwreckedcrew
CNN — pardons for all non-violent offenders. Communtations (time served??) for all in prison. All pending cases not yet having gone to trial will be dismissed. “According to sources knowledgable about the plan.” This is the rumor I heard 15 minutes ago.
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Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
El Paso border entry was just shut down. Trump has announced a national emergency at the border, reinstated the ‘Remain in Mexico’ policy and ended ‘catch and release.’
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Tina, I hope what you are reporting about the J6ers dismissals, commutations, and pardons proves to be accurate.
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The fervor in the Capitol Center and at the locations visited by Fox is awesome. I imagine this is disconcerting to some here.
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I am triggered by the j6 pardons, commutations, closing of the border, two genders, etc.
-free passer
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Jan, I don’t know for sure, just pasting what others are indicating. Shipwreck is an attorney representing several clients.
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I imagine this is disconcerting to some here.
It’s easier to criticize, mock and label than it is to seriously discuss what we agree and disagree with.
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Tina, my fingers are crossed, as you know how I’ve felt the judicial abuse of the J6ers was so wrong!
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If they entered the capital, they should be charged with trespassing, and given appropriate sentences. If over sentenced, then commute the sentence.
Those who didn’t commit a crime should be given whatever relief necessary
J6’ers are not heroes. They are trespassers who were over charged and over prosecuted, but not heroes.
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President Biden has just signed a last min “work-from-home deal” for over 42,000 federal workers, which would prevent Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy from ordering them back to the office full-time.
The gift that keeps giving to lazy Dems. I say overturn that and get them all back to the office where they belong or fire them. Period.
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“We should have secure borders.”
-jason wrote this earlier, so at least we know he is in agreement with
“El Paso border entry was just shut down. Trump has announced a national emergency at the border, reinstated the ‘Remain in Mexico’ policy and ended ‘catch and release.’”
Good that Republicans/conservatives/independents seem to be on the same page.
Funny how old laws work when they are actually applied.
Maybe we don’t need “comprehensive” ones after all!
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“The gift that keeps giving to lazy Dems. I say overturn that and get them all back to the office where they belong or fire them. Period.”
-No disagreement here.
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“It’s easier to criticize, mock and label than it is to seriously discuss what we agree and disagree with.”
-Yes, I’ve noticed some of this as well!
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Attacking law enforcement is a patriotic duty if they support Trump.
-Cult Member
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NT at 5:00.
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They are trespassers who were over charged and over prosecuted
If barricades were pulled back, signs taken away, doors opened (with no one arrested for altering restricted areas), and police were seen waving people inside the Capitol building, how could people be charged with “trespassing?”
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Attacking law enforcement is a patriotic duty if they support Trump.
So, the Capitol police woman who beat an unconscious woman to death, was pushed back by a man who tried giving CPR to a dying woman and was later then charged with “attacking police,” is justified?
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I believe everyone here has said that most were over punished for their crimes. I don’t recall anyone saying anything different, in fact, Jason and Bitter has said this over and over again.
Over punished does not mean innocent.
J6ers are not heroes. If they entered the capital, they knew what they were doing, and knew it was wrong. With that said, trespassing should have been an infraction and been done. Many were overcharged.
Both can be, and are, true
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Kassy Akiva
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A guillotine has arrived at the anti-Trump protest in DC
The left is famous for their guillotine constructions – another presumably built to frame those attending the J6 protest.
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So, the Capitol police woman who beat an unconscious woman to death
Jan repeats this often. Is there a non-Gateway Pundit or ZeroHedge link to confirm it really happened?
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Vic, what you are missing is the “entrapment” involved that seemingly was orchestrated to besmirch anyone participating in the protest. The fact the environment was changed where many were encouraged to enter the ”People’s House,” and then charged with trespassing would not be legitimized in any other criminal trial. And, even journalists or those walking around the outside were arrested…..and yet those who destroyed evidence, perjured themselves were given Biden pardons!!!
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There are links that say Jan’s claim is based on an inaccurate and heavily edited video.
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Vic – Jan keeps pushing this entrapment nonsense. She refuses to accept that people are 100% responsible for their own actions.
Also, the White House is also called the People’s House. Does Jan support an anti-Trump mob busting in there, too?
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“If barricades were pulled back, signs taken away, doors opened (with no one arrested for altering restricted areas), and police were seen waving people inside the Capitol building, how could people be charged with “trespassing?””
-I have asked this before, don’t recall getting a satisfactory answer.
The Capitol is not off-limits at all times. They do tours of the building. If you were way back in the crowd that walked to the Capitol that day, you most likely were not aware there had been fighting between protesters and cops. Then, you come upon an authority figure who is waving you thru the Capitol doors, and you proceed in and follow thru the building without committing any crimes, and then depart, I would not call that “trespassing”.
At other times, if you don’t follow the directives of law enforcement, that would get you locked up. But in this case, when they wave people in, that is “trespassing”.
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Now we know why they won’t release the footage. I’m confident it should show capitol police beating an elderly woman to death.
Rosie Memos
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My God @CapitolPolice were beating Rosanne Boyland and they told us all she died of a drug overdose. They won’t even let her family have access to complete autopsy. What is @January6thCmte doing to investigate her death? Nothing.
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First they said Boyland died of an overdose. Then they changed their story saying she was “trampled to death.” Bitter of course believed that version, as it fits his own take on it. This version also is planted on the first pages of internet searches, like Google is known to do to suppress more truthful stories. Then more video emerged dealing with the beating, and a man trying to revive her, and was later arrested for “attacking” the female officer beating her. Julie Kelly backs up those who witnessed an unconscious Boyland being beaten.
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She is screwed.
Julie Kelly
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President Trump is talking about the perjured testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson, who claimed the president lunged at his driver on Jan 6. She was not pardoned.
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Bitter, It would be wonderful if you advocated for the American people’s right to have fair elections, as much as you do for the Ukrainian people to maintain a war with Russia because of their lost sovereignty.
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Bitter says…”the White House is also called the People’s House. Does Jan support an anti-Trump mob busting in there, too?”
I recall someone (Kamala or AOC?) leading some anti-Jew protestors into Congress after 10/7 to interrupt proceedings. Also, Code Pink protest moron frequently interrupt Congress (obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding is a felony under U.S. federal law). Were any of them charged and sent to the joint?
Why not?
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Also, the White House is also called the People’s House. Does Jan support an anti-Trump mob busting in there, too?
During the Kavanaugh hearings mobs rushed into the Capitol Building, interrupted the hearings, harassed congress people in the Capitol Building elevators, and nary a one was arrested.
Furthermore, one of the Capitol Police, who complained of being attacked and injured, was shown to be lying by video exonerating his attacker. Nonetheless, the supposed “attacker” was convicted and sentenced to a significant prison term.
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“Does Jan support an anti-Trump mob busting in there, too?”
-If I was passing by, and the security apparatus told me I could come in for a tour, I would probably take them up on their invitation. If I was then apprehended for “trespassing”, Bitterlaw would say I need to be responsible for my actions.
Of course, if I was told by the same security that I had to cross the street to pass by the gates, but didn’t listen to them, I might also be apprehended for “trespassing”.
Something tells me that there are pure power dynamics going on, not a matter of “personal responsibility”.
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There is so much corruption and falsehoods surrounding the J6 protest, and the illegalities pursued by DC DA, the select committee, the dem leadership, some dirty Capitol Police, and DC judges. And yet, people like Bitter just fall in line with their condemnation of ,yes, “patriots,” unquestioningly believing the media and Biden’s tall tale of an unarmed insurrection.
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How many yachts does Zelensky own, Jan. I don’t believe your sources.
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Noticing how often you condemn publications, people’s opinions, and common sense rational thinking, your silly yacht references or not believing “my sources” does little to faze me.
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