I don’t know how to number the comments. Yet. I appreciate the feedback.
- Friday with new polling
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- Collins in Deep Trouble in Maine
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Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 41.6 / 55.6 | -14.0 |
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The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
308 responses to “Final Open Thread of Spring 2023!”
Despite (or maybe because of )spending billions, California’s homeless problem continues to grow. A Starbucks about a mile away from where I am at is the latest business closing because of problems with transients:
“One of the oldest Starbucks in San Diego is closing down. It’s about a mile away from where I am at. Despite California spending billions, the homeless problem gets worse and worse — and the underlying cause: drug use — primarily meth, fentanyl & crack.
“despite being a profitable store, is there’s a lot of pressure for employees to deal with when it comes to the homelessness situation in the area.
“They’ve had to remove all of the retail items. They’ve had to remove all of the tables and chairs. They’ve had to lock the bathroom just because of the hostile behavior of a lot of the homeless community,” Nicholls said.
Others who work in the area have heard similar stories.
“They’ve had a lot of incidents with people stealing drinks and throwing chairs,” Clark said. “This block has gotten a little wild, so I understand why they have to go.”
The Starbucks spokesperson also told ABC 10News the cause of not being able to provide that safe and welcoming environment is a comprehensive evaluation of store factors — not specifically tied to homelessness or those who are homeless.”
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In California the billions budgeted for homeless services is being used to fund permanent new government programs:
In Los Angeles County, homeless services are coordinated by the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority (LAHSA). According to Transparent California, in 2014 LAHSA had 118 employees, nine of whom made over $100,000 a year. As the homeless population grew so did LAHSA’s staff: By 2018, the agency had grown to 424 employees, with 31 earning six figures and another 16 earning more than $90,000. The Director pulled down $242,242 (coincidentally nearly identical to Mr. Roberts’s salary at PATH). Assuming an average salary of $50,000 LAHSA spends $21.5 million annually on salaries alone. As LAHSA has grown so has the county’s homeless crisis. Coincidence?
At the state level, the Department of Social Services employs more than 4,200 people whose jobs – theoretically – are to help California’s poorest residents get back on their feet. Nearly 100 employees make more than $200,000 a year, with the Director, William Lightbourne, receiving $313,760. And the state’s homeless crisis grows. Coincidence?
These numbers, which are just a few of myriad examples, raise obvious questions: What would those 424 LAHSA employees do for a living if they were to actually end homelessness in Los Angeles? The answer is equally obvious: If they were to eliminate homelessness and poverty, they’d have to find new jobs. And no one in their right mind intentionally puts themselves out of work.
It’s important to understand that these people are not contractors, nor consultants hired to solve a problem and then move on to the next one. They are full-time, salaried employees. Public employees also receive generous benefits packages and as many as 45 days of paid vacation annually (many take even more time off). Presumably most of them expect to have their jobs for years and decades, and many will retire with their nonprofit or government agency. For that to happen the homeless crisis must continue in perpetuity.”
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There is no incentive for them to reduce homelessness. It would just eliminate their jobs.
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Hunter Biden pleads guilty to misdemeanor tax charges and illegal gun possession. Now DOJ can pretend it is unbiased.
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Good. Justice press release says “investigation is ongoing”. So there may be more to come. I’m fine with Hunter going to jail if/when the next shoe drops.
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Cash Cow says “glad to see things are returning to normal.”
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DRUDGE
“Global network of sadistic monkey torture exposed by BBC…”
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The monkeys are the ones being tortured, not the other way around. I hope the monkeys do get a chance to take revenge. Unless they take the Planet of the Apes route.
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misdemeanors?
LOL
What a joke.
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Has anyone checked yet to see if there was anyone who was about to testify against Biden and was on the doomed Titanic tourist submersible?
I read one article that alleged that the submersible was controlled by a joystick pulled from a playstation, and it had lights bought at Camping World. As the old saying goes, the Sea is unforgiving. The Deep Sea is much more deadly.
The radical left is eager to get us to Mars, but we cannot seem to get people back and forth safely to the wreck of the Titanic.
Maybe Biden can propose a new railroad to the sunken Titanic.
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Mike Davis describes Hunter Biden’s deal to be a “Sweetheart” one. The felony gun charge will not remain on his record. And, there’s a possibility this will even get Hunter off the hook for any further prosecution regarding his corrupt Burisma dealings. Furthermore, a recent Rasmussen poll asking democrats if Biden is better than past presidents, 60% responded “yes.” IOW, a greater number see Biden as more successful than even Obama. I didn’t think democrats were that blinded by their upside down ideology.
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So the apparent rescue vehicles can only go as deep as a few thousand feet, but lost submersible is likely on the bottom at 12,500 feet. The headlines are “Rescuers race against time” but if they had all the time in the world, and can only get within 10,000 feet of the lost sub, its pretty hopeless.
As far as I can tell the only option by which the sub and its passengers are saved is if the malfunction made it so the climb back to the surface was reduced to an agonizingly slow rate, but they will make it before the oxygen runs out. No surface ship is going to save them. A freighter could start fishing around with a hook hoping to snag them, but that would be like someone dropping a fishing line out of an airplane at 10,000 feet hoping to grab a nice trout. It ain’t happening.
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Besides Hunter skating from any corruption/money laundering accountability there are so many thorny issues facing this country – China’s troubling involvement with Cuba; an Ukrainian $100 billion dollar bill to be debated (and probably passed); a coalition of countries trying to weaken our reserve currency: SOS Blinken’s humiliating visit to China demonstrating more and more that we are a declining power, in the midst of China being a rising one; and of course our own border being overrun with colonies of illegals settling in TX. We have no leadership in this country having our backs.
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Seems like a slap on the wrist. The evidence is overwhelming Hunter Biden was receiving millions from foreign sources. There is also evidence that other members of the Biden family (including Joe) were on the receiving end of Hunter Biden’s influence pedalling earnings. Even Democrats I talk to believe what was happening was malodorous. Hopefully Congress and others continue to investigate the Bidens. Trump may need some cellmates.
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Headline: Maryland Gov Says Trans Book Bans Are “Castrating Kids”
No, how about the truth–it is the TRANS movement that takes a healthy boy and pressures him into being castrated.
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https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/06/20/british-billionaire-adventurer-among-those-missing-on-titanic-submarine/
The sub supposedly has 96 hours of oxygen – enough to last until Thursday. Some speculate if the sub’s problems involved the electrical system, causing the sub to lose contact, it could have already surfaced and simply has not been located yet by rescue groups.
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The current charges are not related to any of that. I assume there is more to come.
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I think what you describe rarely if ever happens.
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In almost all states, one needs to be 18 to get Vaginoplasty. https://www.childrenshospital.org/treatments/vaginoplasty
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Its happening. Its just that because these are considered “medical procedures” they are private and only become public when the person comes forward–usually only when the person regrets it and wants to warn everyone about being pressured into it. One such story was in the news a few months ago about an autistic girl who was pressured into a double-mastectomy and then regretted it.
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I did some searching. I couldn’t find any time that castration happened on teens. Can you show evidence?
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Like I said, these instances are hard to find unless the person comes forward. The girl who had her breasts removed came forward. Back on the original HHR when I pointed this out, you found that story and agreed that this is a problem. The fact that this multi-million dollar industry of pushing kids to receive harmful puberty blockers and surgery is still in its infancy, doesn’t me we can just look the other way and hope it goes away. No, NOW is the easiest time to put a stop to this foolishness.
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Meanwhile, other headlines:
Student Called “Despicable” After Questioning Classmate Who Identifies as Cat
Midwest Teachers Hold Conference on How to Quietly Indoctrinate Kids With Explicit Sex Ex, Gender Propaganda
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I’d agree with banning any physical surgery for gender transitioning prior to age 18.
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And the Award for most nauseating post in the lifeboat goes to Paul.
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If the sub is tangled in the wreckage, it is hopeless. If it is ascending extremely slowly, they may freeze to death before the oxygen runs out. I hope for the best but the deep sea is as dangerous as outer space and less explored.
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Bitter, the thing I don’t get is why anyone would risk their life on this particular adventure. Its not like they can get to the bottom of the sea, 12,500 feet down, and then get out and walk around on the deck of the Titanic, and maybe go exploring down inside the ship. The passengers can still only see the wreck through a thick window. So that glass might as well be a screen safely aboard the surface vessel while an unmanned machine is down at the bottom with the video camera.
I get that some things are worth the risk. The Grand Canyon cannot be adequately appreciated from photographs or a video feed. Anyone who has seen it in person can attest to that. So if the only way to get there was through some danger that poses a minimal threat to one’s life, I could see how many would go and take on the risk.
But to see the Titanic through a window, when you can get much better images through unmanned vessels? It seems like a no-brainer.
But I guess if nothing else this sad situation has forever ended the Titanic tourism.
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I support the indoctrinating part.
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My daughter was working with some of the quiet indoctrination recently as a substitute teacher. Good stuff.
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I have been fascinated by Titanic since I read A Night to Remember when I was 10. There is no way I would get in a sub to see it even if it was free. Both can be true.
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“Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said a plea deal on tax charges for Hunter Biden, President Biden’s son, will not slow down House Republicans’ investigation into the Biden family’s business dealings.
“It continues to show the two-tier system in America,” McCarthy said of Hunter Biden’s plea deal. “If you are the president’s leading political opponent, the DOJ tries to literally put you in jail and give you prison time. But if you are the president’s son, you get a sweetheart deal.””
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If I had $250k to blow this would not be on my bucket list. I just saw a fabulous documentary “Drain the oceans” on the Titanic and you see much more than you would inside a submersible.
However, I am not against Titanic tourism. The first thing that should be required is a spare vehicle on the mother ship that could be launched for rescue. The second is some kind of tether, not necessarily to pull it up but that could be used to track it if necessary. It could be flimsy enough that it couldn’t snare the submersible or have a release mechanism if it was entangled. Finally it should require a week of oxygen instead of 96 hours.
Of course, none of these precautions would help if the submersible imploded. Because it was 2/3rds down and it was only about 90 minutes when they lost communications I doubt it is entangled in the wreck, it didn’t have enough time to reach it.
If it just completely lost power and sank to the bottom, a hook can be attached to it by an ROV and it can be winched to the surface. That is the best case scenario for the problem and for the rescue.
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The Hunter Biden charges prove the US has become a banana republic.
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Further reading on this missing submersible, sounds like the CEO (who is also on the missing craft) ignored the pleas of others in the submersible community over the safety of the vessel that is now missing. The CEO pushed back saying that getting his sub certified would take too long and the delays would “stifle innovation.” In other words, the guy had a barely working sub and was eager to start cashing the checks for $250,000 per rider. That’s making money the hard way, now that he is very likely dead at the bottom of the ocean.
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jason, I see you made it over here to the lifeboat…the last survivor pulled from the water. Welcome aboard.
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I guess if given one of two exits from this world while within a submersible, I would rather have the vessel hull fail in an catastrophic implosion, and have one split second of horror, than to have a mechanical problem, glide to the bottom and sit there on the sand waiting for three days to run out of air.
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Newsom failed miserably in dealing with California’s homeless crisis. But he wasted billions of dollars — which makes him eminately qualified to be the Democrats’ candidate for president in 2024:
“California spent a whopping $10 billion on the homeless during the 2019-2021 timeframe while providing assistance to 510,000 individuals. Despite this huge expenditure of money, no appreciative progress has been made in the state’s homeless situation.”
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“Two days after the council vote, the County of San Diego announced it had received a $17 million state grant to coordinate a joint county-city partnership to address the homeless population living along the San Diego riverbed. $17 million may seem like a suitable antidote to reducing the riverbed homeless population; after all, the latest estimates claim there are only 300 homeless individuals residing in the riverbed. Surely, $17 million can take care of a mere 300 people at $56,666 for each.
And yet, I am sure many San Diegans, upon learning of this $17 million grant, likely shrugged their shoulders and said something like, “Don’t hold your breath. See me in a year or two and explain whatever became of that money. And let me know if any fewer homeless people live in the riverbed.” Homelessness fatigue has programmed us to feel that way”
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What DW just said – one millisecond of implosion where you die before your brain can process what is happening is far preferable to running out of air or freezing to death….and it’s not even close.
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I also saw the show about what it would be like if you could drain the ocean around Titanic. One thing that is often lost when you see the bow section how big it is. From the sea floor to the fore deck is as high as a 6 story building.
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Biden laundered BILLIONs through Ukraine so they’re investigating Trump AGAIN
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If they have proof, they can impeach. But there appears to be no proof. Just a bunch of hot air.
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As Jonathan Tobin said in Newsweek:
“The DOJ gave Hunter Biden VIP service that average citizens never get, and it looks bad. But even worse is the fact that no one in the federal justice system seems interested in getting to the bottom of the Biden family corruption allegations.”
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More from Jonathan Tobin in Newsweek:
“As Right on Crime’s Brett Tolman pointed out, 94.2 percent of federal firearm convictions in 2022 involved at least some prison time with the median sentence being 39 months.
That the federal prosecutor in Delaware was appointed by a Republican doesn’t make it smell any sweeter, and not just because a president’s son ought to be treated the same way most violators are handled, not given a slap on the wrist. The real problem is that Hunter Biden is the focus of a disturbing trail of evidence about corruption that is, even in the most generous reading, highly suspicious. The President’s son received millions of dollars in payments from foreign entities during the time his father was vice president.
Hunter got busy doing deals with entities connected to the Chinese Communist Party and placed the money in a suspiciously large number of limited liability companies with multiple family members outside of the president among the beneficiaries. Hunter’s appointment to the board of the Ukrainian energy company Burisima, despite his lack of any expertise on the topic, was an obvious effort to influence his father, whom President Barack Obama had made his administration’s point man on Ukraine.
The Burisma connection has always seemed fishy due to President Biden’s boasts about threatening to withhold U.S. aid to Ukraine if a prosecutor investigating that company wasn’t fired. Even if that was innocent, the head of Burisma is now linked to allegations of an attempt to bribe the Biden family, evidence for which is allegedly to be found on tapes of conversations with them.
Hunter’s business dealings might be technically legal, but he was peddling influence, something that is clearly corrupt.
The worst part of all of this is the way the DOJ is protecting the President. If such allegations were leveled against anyone else involved in the kind of criminality Hunter was routinely engaged in, the Department of Justice would be using them as leverage to get to the bottom of his family’s questionable activities. Anyone else would be squeezed to reveal all about his shady dealings. Yet Hunter was simply… let off.”
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Your TDS comment of the day. I watched the second part of Trumps interview with Fox. If you like what he is selling good luck. Something is off with that guy.
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So our choice for president in 2024 seems to be coming down to a choice between a corrupt sleazeball and a pompous nut job.
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It seems Glenn Youngkin has pulled the VA GOP out of the ditch. In most of the races, the party has nominated the electable candidate. Rough night for Corey Stewart and the Confederate monuments gang.
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https://archive.vn/2023.06.20-173801/https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/trumps-home-run/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=right-rail&utm_content=corner&utm_term=third
Rich Lowry, an anti-Trumper from the get-go, reluctantly felt Trump hit it out of the park on that Fox interview. He felt Trump exhibited strength in his comments, held his own with Bair, and was charismatic to boot. I guess it’s all about one’s personal perspective.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/06/20/boom-ron-desantis-privately-tells-corporate-donors-he-is-against-u-s-tariffs-on-chinese-goods/
A very explicit piece detailing DeSantis’s ties to corporate/global ties. The concerns expressed by CTH are my concerns. Last year 42 billionaire donors were cited as supporting DeSantis, among them Citedel’s CEO, Ken Griffin, who is all in on dealing with China. I doubt Griffin or any other globalist billionaire would be happy if their guy mounts any resistance to China’s policies diverting jobs and trade away from the U.S. These are aspects to weigh when looking at a presidential candidate, other than if they have a picture-perfect family, are young, and carry around little baggage.
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Clean the swamp…what a piece of ah*t.
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Piece of Sh*t.
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Further reading on this missing submersible, sounds like the CEO (who is also on the missing craft) ignored the pleas of others in the submersible community over the safety of the vessel that is now missing.”
Not so sure. This submersible has made many trips successfully. The release form everyone signed clearly states the risks. This is an expedition to a wreck 13,000 feet in a small submersible with very little self propulsion, no emergency rescue vehicle, no teher. It is obviously fraught with risk. Risk does not mean reckless. Accidents happen with much more sophisticated vehicles. We lost two space shuttles.
Were the others in the “submersible community” successful like this guy was in dozens of visits to the wreck?
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He sound’s deranged. He has no business being in the White House as much as Biden, Obama, or any other scum.
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Submersible safety is like kicking field goals. You are only as good as your last attempt. Hoping for the best but not looking good.
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Christina Pushaw is a real asset to the Golden Calf. if he wins she should be a slam dunk for press secretary.
But these attacks on Trump are like water off a duck. Support for Trump among Rs is baked in.
And JeffP calls Trump a piece of sh-t but denies having TDS.
The TDS morons are doing everything possible to get Trump nominated.
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The interview with Baier the last two nights is your preview of his campaign.
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Submersible safety is like kicking field goals. You are only as good as your last attempt.”
Hundreds of rich guys have died climbing Mount Everest. An average of 10 people die every year.
But nobody talks about ending the practice. The risks are well known.
This submersible had reasonable safeguards, it has 7 different emergency systems to return to the surface, even one where it would automatically do so if the crew is incapacitated.
The most logical explanation of why it hasn’t surfaced is that it imploded, but the structural integrity was actually the most technological advanced feature, developed by Boeing and NASA. However you would think if it imploded you would have some debris on the surface.
I guess we will know eventually unless it was swallowed whole by a whale.
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I didn’t say to stop dives. I said I would not do it.
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The interview with Baier the last two nights is your preview of his campaign.”
Zzzzz…… you need a preview? We all know what his campaign is going to be about.
Trump is still the odds on favorite to win the nomination. Interviews and indictments are not going to change that.
Anyone who believes it will is in denial.
The Golden Calf is going to have to earn the nomination. It won’t be handed to him
https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7053/Who-will-win-the-2024-Republican-presidential-nomination
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He has no business being in the White House as much as Biden, Obama, or any other scum. ”
He was a good President. I have no concerns he would be a good President if he won. My problem with him is that I don’t think he can win.
So far in this thread you called him a piece of sh-t and scum.
You sound deranged.
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I am glad that Jason was the last one to board the lifeboat.
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I don’t think anybody should be handed the nomination. Of course, since I will not vote for Trump or DeSantis in the primary, I won’t be responsible for the nomination.
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PENNSYLVANIA
DeSantis 47% (+2)
Biden 45%
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Biden 48% (+4)
Trump 44%
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Biden 44% (+3)
Trump 41%
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DeSantis 48% (+3)
Biden 45%
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Biden 47% (+3)
Trump 44%
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Anyone who still stands by Fauci is precisely those things.
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If these state polls are accurate DeSantis is winning Iowa and New Hampshire.
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Credibility is lost when a poster resorts to inflammatory comments to press his points.
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https://twitter.com/kevintober94/status/1671281728013451266?s=61&t=uLyKpWBwDwyCK292uUHCSA
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What a loser.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2023/06/18/trump-beating-desantis-republican-primary-2024-poll/70327796007
While Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is out there fighting to defeat an invisible thing he calls “the woke mind virus,” his young presidential campaign is stumbling like a drunk fraternity bro with flop sweat.
And his chief rival, former President Donald Trump, has remained the far-and-away front-runner for the GOP presidential nomination despite being indicted for the second time this year.
It’s too early to look at polling seriously.
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Real Clear Polling; Republican Primary, June 5 — June 17:
Trump 51.9%
DeSantis 21.1%
Pence 5.8%
Haley 3.8%
Scott 3.6%
Christie 2.3%
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Quinnipiac Poll
June 14, 2023
UKRAINE
Two-thirds of Americans (66 percent) think supporting Ukraine is in the national interest of the United States, while 28 percent think it is not in the national interest of the United States.
Democrats (88 – 10 percent), independents (66 – 27 percent), and Republicans (52 – 40 percent) think supporting Ukraine is in the national interest of the United States.
More than 3 in 10 Americans (31 percent) think the United States is doing too much to help Ukraine, 20 percent think the U.S. is doing too little, and 40 percent think the U.S. is doing about the right amount to help Ukraine.
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Credibility is lost when the President of the US allows an unelected evil tyrant to violate our civil liberties like never before in our history and has no regrets.
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Gallup Poll:
“WASHINGTON, D.C. — A larger majority of Americans now (69%) than in 2021 (62%) say transgender athletes should only be allowed to compete on sports teams that conform with their birth gender. Likewise, fewer endorse transgender athletes being able to play on teams that match their current gender identity, 26%, down from 34%.”
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Another Lie Exposed
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It is sad that only 52% of Republicans recognize that supporting Ukraine is in our national interest.
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I stopped by HHR. It is truly finished.
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Way too early to take 2024 polls seriously, although that set of general election state matchups by POStrategies is exactly the kind of polls that I mentioned a few weeks ago would start leaving its dent on the primary races come January 2024. Then once the primaries start and these early states have actual winners and losers, then everything changes and goes from there.
My biggest fear is Dem meddling in the GOP primary if Biden goes unopposed.
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June 21, 2023 at 8:03 am
It is sad that only 52% of Republicans recognize that supporting Ukraine is in our national interest.”
Shameful. But there are a lot of pro-Putin propagandists on the right starting with Putin Stooge Extraordinaire Tucker Carlson and that influences the poll.
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The Hill
@thehill
#BREAKING: Former Virginia state Sen. Glen Sturtevant was projected to narrowly defeat incumbent state Sen. Amanda Chase, who has described herself as “Trump in heels,” in the GOP Virginia state senate primary Tuesday.
– Nature is healing!
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The Republicans are about split down the middle regarding the Ukraine. It will hurt them in 2024; believe it already hurt them in the disappointing 2022 election.
I won’t vote for a candidate who opposes military aid to the Ukraine.
Two of the two most active Senators in opposing NATO expansion in the past were Rand Paul and Senator Mike Lee from Utah. Both were often the only members of the Senate who voted against admitting new members to NATO.
Yet when Senator Lee found himself in a tough re-election fight in Utah in 2022, Lee suddenly changed his tune and announced on Twitter and in his campaign literature that he was voting for Sweden and Finland to join NATO.
Senator Lee managed to get reelected with 53% of the vote in 2022. Normally, Republican Senate candidates in Utah receive about 67% of the vote.
The responses to Lee’s support for Finland and Sweden joining NATO on Twitter are an entertaining read:
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“@SenMikeLee
Today, I voted to ratify the accession of Finland and Sweden to NATO
@LJRK0909
I’m glad I’m sitting down. Thank you for once for doing the right thing. This was entirely unexpected
@flyfishcedarci1
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Good job
@CygnusMaximus
Your recent position switches are giving me whiplash. So much for being consistent, eh, Mikey?
@AnotherMasker no
Looky here: traitorpants man decides not to cozy up to Putin, today only.
@skiergos
Putin stop sending you checks”
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Hunter Biden was unjustly railroaded by the right wing judicial system while real criminals like Trump go free. Biden/AOC 2024!
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I won’t vote for a candidate who opposes military aid to the Ukraine.”
Me neither.
I don’t usually believe in litmus tests, but that is a line in the sand for me.
In my view any candidate that doesn’t understand the threat Putin poses to US interests doesn’t deserve to be in office.
It is shameful that many Democrats, who used be the isolationist anti-military party, have now a much better position on protecting US interest abroad than many Republicans.
Another reason why I no longer identify with the party.
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My biggest fear is Dem meddling in the GOP primary if Biden goes unopposed.”
This will happen. In states with open primaries or where you can change affiliation up to election day, many Dems will vote for Trump in order to defeat the Golden Calf.
Bet on it.
Of course, it backfired in 2016 when CNN and MSNBC carried every Trump rally live because they thought they wanted him as the nominee.
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Jason,
Nice to see that you were able to make the transition over.
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Has anyone heard from Wes lately?
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Marv – Wes’ dad died recently. Wes is going through his cancer treatment and fighting hard.
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An A-hole always finds a way.
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Not since he called me a Mega Maga lying asswipe fraud, no
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Cancer can’t keep Wes down.
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In my view any candidate that doesn’t understand the threat Putin poses to US interests doesn’t deserve to be in office.
The biggest threat to the U.S. economy, freedoms and our overall well being is China. They are the ones stealing our technology, establishing military bases around the world (including S. America & now Cuba), are feverishly adding to their naval strength, meddling in our elections, are vying for world dominance, and actively enabling Russia by buying their oil and aligning themselves with a coalition of countries trying to upend our reserve currency status. Ukraine has become a divisive distraction, one that’s usurping ammunition, arms, money from this country and others, killing Ukrainian civilians in abysmal numbers, and becoming a fuse for igniting a nuclear incident from a country having the greatest nuclear arms in the world.
If Russia is crushed will that make our national security less in jeopardy? Actually, IMO, it will only make our real nemesis stronger, more likely to take over Taiwan, becoming the world power to fear and heel to the most. Basically, the implications of putting all our chips on Ukraine, and taking eyes off a much larger threat, is beyond terrifying.
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I see Wobbles made it aboard. I don’t expect Tgca, Gordon or Albert Magnus to join us.
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If Russia is crushed will that make our national security less in jeopardy? ”
Straw argument.
Russia does not have to be “crushed”. Russia has to be stopped from implementing their vision of a new USSR or Greater Russia, which Is a gigantic threat to the stability of Europe and hence of great national importance to the US.
Allowing Russia to implement its expansionist ambitions is a grave security threat to the US.
This is true whatever threat China poses, the two threats are independent of each other and one does not void the other. The US has a huge interest in preserving the stability of Europe as well as Japan, South Korea and Korea.
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killing Ukrainian civilians in abysmal numbers,”
There is ONLY ONE country killing Ukraine in abysmal numbers. Russia.
And the only way to protect Ukrainians from continued slaughter is to provide the aid they need.
Ukraine is not a “distraction” It is a sovereign country of 40 million people attacked an invaded by a Russia intent on expanding its military, economic and geopolitical influence to the detriment of the US and its allies.
What would be “terrifying” would be to allow the continued genocide and human catastrophe caused by the Russians.
The fact Jan calls the displacement of 10 million people, the bombing and shelling of countless cities and residential areas, the killing, rape, torture and forced deportations of tens or hundreds of thousands of people, the destruction of Ukraine’s infrastructure and economy a “distraction” really exemplifies the length the Putin lapdogs will go to justify his war crimes.
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Reading more on this missing submersible, and am convinced the CEO and pilot of the craft has been extraordinarily careless with his life and the lives of his passengers. Prior passengers speak of wiring issues that had to be fixed (with zip ties) just before launching–one passenger called it a suicide mission. And in previous dives, the pilot got way too close the Titanic wreckage, even in one instance setting the sub down on Titanic’s deck! That is incredibly foolish, as the sub could easily get entangled in the wreckage, or the rotting deck could give way plunging them into the Titanic’s hull.
Reading all the different perspectives and first hand accounts, my opinion is that the sub’s hull did not implode, as that was probably the most reliable part of the design. Probably something broke like a thruster or wiring to the thruster that has rendered the sub inoperable and they are down there waiting to run out of air. Horrible.
Its incredible to me that the design of this vessel didn’t include even the most basic of safety features like an external beacon that would send out a pulse nonstop throughout the dive, so that in the case of an emergency, rescuers could easily locate the sub from the pulse.
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And now this headline: CEO of “Titanic Tour” Company Refused to Hire “50-Year-Old White Guys” With Military Experience Because They Weren’t “Inspirational”
This guy was a fruitcake! I hope they are rescued for the sake of his victims, but would also be good to see this guy face the music for his stupidity.
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And apparently there has been banging heard in the water, but that could be anything.
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The silicone chip inside his head gets switched to overload…..
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His contortions during the interview were impressive for a man of his age.
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I agree with Jason. Additionally, if we were to give Russia a “pass” in their invasion of Ukraine, that would make a Taiwan invasion so much MORE likely. If we allowed Russia to succeed in taking a chunk of land, China would consider that it could do the same in Taiwan. Right now, they know that it would be a long and devastating war if they invaded.
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Jason exploits the prioritization of putting the greater harms China presents to the U.S., over the tragedy of Ukraine, as being expressed by a Putin lapdog. Somehow the lack of accountability over the monetary, armaments asked for and received by Zelensky, is never an issue, even when a 6 billion accounting error has recently popped up. I guess that’s just chump change, even when the US is 32 trillion in debt, and millions are hurting financially in this country. Furthermore the loss of life and suffering in Ukraine is secondary for those involved in this war, as according to a recent comment by a Blackrock recruiter, “War is good for business.” I guess ending a war is not!
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Any honest person would admit the counter offensive is not going well for Ukraine.
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Trump said that he has no regrets over his handling of Covid. NO REGRETS. Zero.
How many people do you think regret getting the vaccine that he rushed the FDA to push out?
How many people regret not being able to say goodbye to their loved ones?
How many parents wish they could undo the psychological damage that lockdowns and masking caused their children?
How many small business owners wish they could get their businesses back?
Millions, but he has zero regrets.
This is a million times worse than anything DeSantis, Massie, or RFK have ever said, signed, or voted for.
Truly disgraceful. We will all regret putting him back into office, because he has proved once again, that he will do the same thing again if given the chance.
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Another low light from interview… https://twitter.com/richardhanania/status/1671317972755857413?s=61&t=uLyKpWBwDwyCK292uUHCSA
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Are dwhhr and DW the same person?
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I was able to successfully change my screenname. If you were forced to add hhr or some other extra to the name you were using at HHR, you can click on the icon in the top right corner of the screen (not the bell) and, from there, you can change your name.
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I do not regret getting vaccine and 1 booster (3 shots). I won’t get a 4th shot. Both can be true.
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Your fortunate if you had no I’ll effects. It never would have been approved with the side effect data using FDA standard regulations. A vaccine prevents infection… this “vaccine” failed that test in a monumental way.
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I’m done with the vaccine as are most people.
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If you’re interested in changing your screenname to the one you used at HHR, just follow the steps I laid out a few posts earlier.
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Yes, finally figured out how to get it to appear as just DW instead of dwhhr.
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And so it seems that the doomed Titanic submersible is now gone. The victims and the pilot are dead. Even if they were found now and were lifted to the surface, there is not enough oxygen left to make it to the top. The deep ocean is just as unforgiving as outer space. The slightest mistake is lethal.
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Congresswoman Lunacy keeps trying to silence Schiff because the Republicans can’t handle the truth. And her fellow Congresswomen Boebert and Greene are calling each other Little Bitches.
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All my immediate family, friends and church members were vaccinated and boosted. No one had any ill effects. I have a cousin who refused to get vaccinated and got COVID and was on a breathing machine for months. She’ll have compromised lungs for the rest of her life. Means little but that’s my personal experience with the vaccine.
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Using the name “Schiff” and the word “truth” in the same sentence is hilarious.
Schiff has long since been totally discredited as has the “Russian collusion” drivel.
Try to keep up.
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Anything specific, honest Abe?
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Cash Cow here.
I would be posting more but I am up to my horns and hoofs helping develop the counter offensive strategy for the Ukes. I am making progress.
Desantis/Youngkin for 2024!
(F Trump)
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Both Biden and Trump have very low favorability ratings, yet no alternative candidates have developed any traction:
Donald Trump Favorable Rating:
Favorable 33%
Unfavorable 59%
Among Independents:
Favorable 23%
Unfavorable 63%
@CNN, 1,350 Adults, 6/13-17
Joe Biden Favorable Rating:
Favorable 32%
Unfavorable 56%
Among Independents:
Favorable 25%
Unfavorable 57%
@CNN, 1,350 Adults, 6/13-17
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The stupidity involved in this debacle is unbelievable:
“The OceanGate CEO who is trapped on a 22-foot submersible on an ill-fated voyage to see the Titanic wreck once explained how he didn’t hire “50-year-old white guys” with military experience to captain his vessels because they weren’t “inspirational.”
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A multimillionaire thrill-seeker who was supposed to be on the missing Titanic sub said he pulled out over fears it was “cutting too many corners” — and was run with a $40 videogame controller.
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OceanGate’s 21-foot Titan submersible was made up of off-the-shelf components.
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“I found out they used old scaffolding poles for the sub’s ballast — and its controls were based on computer game-style controllers,” the shocked would-be explorer told the UK paper.”
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Monday morning quarter-backing is a nifty way to show off knowledge that the day before was not available.
Trump initially addressed the spread of the virus by banning Chinese travel, which was condemned. He optimistically called for a short shut-down to lower the curve, but was criticized for not taking the virus seriously. He discussed the possibility of alternative therapies like hydroxychloroquine. In fact Peter Navarro ordered massive doses of it, but such a remedy was mocked and then eventually made unavailable by the medical establishment (even though there were doctors who had amazing results using this inexpensive, repurposed, FDA-approved drug.) He early on shunned wearing a mask 24/7, and never supported mandates.
However, Trump has always been pro-active combining the wheel houses of the private/public sectors to problem solve. So, that’s what he did with the pharmaceutical companies to expedite a vaccine that everyone was clamoring for. He did the same to provide additional ventilators, creating more bed space, ordering medical ships on each coast. When he got COVID he took the vaccine himself to demonstrate his trust and approval of it. Basically, Trump engaged in appropriate moves, that in hindsight proved to be wrong.
Sure, it would be a solid gesture to say now he wished different approaches had been used if the unknown had been known. However, people should have a better memory in remembering the fear-induced environment surrounding COVID, to understand Trump did the best he could, given how blind sighted people were about the etiology, scope, and transmission rate of a new virus, as well as the uncooperative push back exercised by the Dems and media. Putting the failure of small businesses, the isolation and death of patients, the loss of education on Trump is displacing the blame, when it rightly belongs to the CDC, FDA, various state governors, the AMA and the Teacher Unions.
BTW, my brother-in-law died in a hospital of brain cancer, but was isolated and alone because of a COVID diagnosis slapped on him after he was hospitalized. My husband and I refused to take the vaccine, and were also isolated because of the divisive way being vaccinated vs not being vaccinated divided people.
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For being an incumbent Trumps over all numbers aren’t that great. The reaction to the seriousness of Trumps indictments are beginning to show in that poll too. It’s just a matter of time and Trumps numbers will begin to dwindle. His support is soft. The race will tighten by the fall.
The campaign really begins in August when the debates begin. Something seemed off with Trump in the long Fox interview. DeSantis and Christie will handle Trump well… if he shows. Both of them have strong ego strength. They remain themselves under pressure and know how to punch back effectively. Pence being a talk radio host and in GOP leadership for years is very quick on his feet as well and will surprise. Haley and Vivek will be kissing Trumps butt.
If Trump remains in the race there needs to be a effort to give him the Bernie Sanders treatment. I still believe 35-40% is his ceiling on a good day.
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Man made viruses do serious damage.
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I have seen first hand Myocarditis in a twenty something young man and his 51 year old Mother had a stroke. My daughters best friend a physician assistant got one shot in the very beginning as a medical professional got myocarditis after the first shot and issues with ovulation.
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If you’re interested in changing your screenname to cash cow, just click on the icon in the top right of the screen (not the bell). It will take you to settings where you can change your screen name. Just wanted to pass it along in case you’re interested.
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This is going to be interesting…
NOW: the DOJ has begun handing over its first production of trial discovery to Pres. Trump in the classified document case.
The court filing reveals it included “the grand jury testimony of witnesses who will testify for the government at the trial of this case.”
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I am pleased at the progress of the lifeboat. Substantive discussions and good fights. Keep at it.
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Christie will go for the suicide body slam like he did on Marco.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/21/adam-schiff-house-censure-trump/
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They are Phucking Jackasses just like Phil.
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Bitter, What are the reasons you put posts in moderation? Also, wrote a lengthy comment this afternoon which disappeared.
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Ukraine is maintaining “operational silence” regarding it’s offensive. At this point it appears to be a probing operation, with bulk of its forces holding back in reserve, waiting for the opportunity for a breakthrough.
Meanwhile, Yevgeny Prigozhin, the head of the Russian Wagner mercenary group is alarmed, and has accused the Russian Defense of not telling the truth about the territory Russia is losing.
“The chief of mercenary group Wagner on Wednesday accused Moscow’s top brass of deceiving Russians about the course of Ukraine’s offensive and pointed to Kyiv’s progress on the battlefield.
Early this month Kyiv’s military launched its counteroffensive in the east and south of the Western-backed country in an effort to claw back territory lost since last year.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly said that Ukraine’s offensive is failing.
But Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin, whose forces had for months led an assault for towns in eastern Ukraine including Bakhmut, accused the defense ministry of not telling the truth and losing territory to Ukrainian troops.
“They are misleading the Russian people,” he said in an audio message released by his spokespeople.
A number of villages including Pyatykhatky has been lost, Prigozhin said, pointing to a lack of arms and ammunition.
“Huge chunks have been handed over to the enemy,” he said, adding that Ukrainian troops have already sought to cross the Dnipro River, a natural border on the frontline.
“All of this is being totally hidden from everyone,” the 62-year-old said.
“One day Russia will wake up to discover that Crimea too has been handed over to Ukraine,” he said.”
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“Titanic sub crew likely experiencing ‘mood swings,’ ex-Navy psychologist says”
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Jan- I do not put things in moderation. I thought that my settings were to pretty much let everything in. I will check in it.
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I checked the settings. The only 2 comments in moderation had links in them. I don’t know if that triggers moderation. I went in to approve them.
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Bitterlaw
June 21, 2023 at 10:04 pm
I am pleased at the progress of the lifeboat. Substantive discussions and good fights. Keep at it.”
Zzzzzz…. GFY.
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OceanGate’s 21-foot Titan submersible was made up of off-the-shelf components.
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“I found out they used old scaffolding poles for the sub’s ballast — and its controls were based on computer game-style controllers,” the shocked would-be explorer told the UK paper.”
Zzzzzzz…. if so it was very well made, because it has made dozens of successful trip to the Titanic.
And btw, ballast is ballast, it is not supposed to be made of high tech materials. Anything heavy that you can jettison to achieve buoyancy is fine. Ship use rocks, sand, iron, concrete and even water.
Nothing wrong with using “scaffolding poles”, this guy is a moron.
And nothing wrong in using a computer game style controller either.
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Adam Schiff was censured? This is devastating to me. My hero Michael Cohen went to jail. The man I named the moral compass of America and wanted to be President Michael Avenatti is in jail. The communist I endorsed for Govenor of Florida against Trump clone, total bum and clown DeSantis has been indicted for wire fraud. Now my icon Schiff is censored. He is unfairly accused of false accusations against Trump, I am sure if given a little more time he will finally come up with evidence of Trump collusion with the Russians. These Trumped-up charges against these fine upstanding citizens are outrageous. We need to end selective prosecutions and witch hunts in this country before we become a banana republic.
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And apparently the hatch door to the doomed sub can only be opened from the outside. Meaning if they made it back to the surface and are floating around lost at sea, they are still dead because they ran out of air.
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And probably the men on board the doomed sub died from the cold before lack of air. Apparently its hot and stuffy when they get in at the surface, but then as it descends the temps drop to the point where they are shivering at the bottom, and have to put on extra clothes they brought.
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What a bore Jason fraud’s life must be that he registered a parody screenname just to go after me.
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Back in the 1990s I think it was, one of the weekly news magazines reached the profound conclusion that Men and Women were different. I recall Rush Limbaugh going on and on about it. And the discussion was not around the obvious physical differences. But here we are in 2023, with a US Senator having to argue against this utter stupidity:
Sen. Cruz Argues With “Civil Rights” Org Leader on Whether Men, Women Are Physically Different
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This is how DeSantis fights back and calls out Trumps BS…it’s excellent.
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ralph kramden
Great news! My mini-sub is now completed and we will start selling tickets immediately. $10.00 adults, $5.00 kids, I’d like to give a shout-out to Ace Hardware and Wally’s A-OK Garage in Toledo for their technical assistance and expertise in designing and building the HMS ‘Feeling Lucky 3’. Nothing can go wrong. Trust us, but if it does, every paying customer will receive a complimentary cyanide capsule upon entering the sub.
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Breaking News: Will Hurd, a former House Republican from Texas known for working across the aisle, announced a long-shot presidential bid.
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https://www.willbhurd.com
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The submersible worked great. Until it didn’t. I hope that it is found so that the people on board can be buried and engineers can learn from this to make advances in safety and performance.
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Thanks Bitter.
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I read about the hatch door only being opened from the outside, almost sealing the crews chances of making it out alive. There was also no plan B on hand, should something go wrong. The more you find out about this tourist sub the worse it becomes.
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But even if this sub performed perfectly, this tragedy could have been pilot error/stupidity, because prior passengers admitted that he landed the sub on Titanic’s deck, and they have the pictures to prove it. That is beyond foolhardy. That rotting deck could easily collapse, plunging the sub down into the Titanic’s hull.
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Robbie
June 22, 2023 at 9:51 am
What a bore Jason fraud’s life must be that he registered a parody screenname just to go after me.”
LOL
Bitter can easily debunk that lie. I didn’t register any parody screenname.
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Ukraine has been approved for a fast track NATO membership. Zelensky will be happy as it means more money and arms, even though his country is now considered the 3rd best armed country in the world, just behind China and the U.S.
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Pleased with the progress of the lifeboat
Let’s see how pleased we are when Paul gets cranked up on one of his “forgets to take his meds” binges. I’m sure Paul won’t crap on bitter’s carpet. Naw
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18:decisions will be coming down soon from SCOTUS. Included in this group are two debt relief challenges and the important Moore vs Harper case, dealing with the “independent state legislature” theory.
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But even if this sub performed perfectly, this tragedy could have been pilot error/stupidity, because prior passengers admitted that he landed the sub on Titanic’s deck, and they have the pictures to prove it.”
Most of the Titanic’s deck is steel, that is why it is still there. The steel was sheathed in wood. Very unlikely it would cave in. The steel is rusting but the thick deck steel will be around for a long time. Most of the wood on the Titanic is already gone, some teak remains.
Besides, the contact with the submersible ended before they reached the Titanic, only about an hour and a half after they had departed. Finally, had the problem been that the submersible was entangled in wreckage, it would still be able to communicate.
Most likely either two things happened. A complete power loss caused by short circuit or other reason or a catastrophic implosion due to a breach. The submersible had an emergency system that would make it surface even if the crew was incapacitated, but I don’t know if it required power to activate or whether it had an independent trigger system.
if it was a breach it is pretty much a failure of the most technologically advanced feature of the submersible. Evidently this was Boeing and NASA technology and the CEO considered it the “safest” aspect. As he put it, everything else can fail, but not the structural integrity.
As Bitter put it, it was safe until it wasn’t. Same as the space shuttle.
I see social media posts saying the CEO deserved to die because he is a Republican. That the billionaire aboard deserves to die because he is a billionaire.
This was an experimental vehicle people embarked on at their own risk after signing a waiver stating they were aware this craft was not certified by any agency and there were significant risks involved. There were no safety guarantees. The CEO felt safe enough to be on it himself, so he was not exempting himself from any risks.
There are a lot of people saying stupid things attacking this guy and his vehicle. Everyone has their own risk tolerance. I would not go on this adventure if I had the money because I don’t like being cooped up with 4 other guys in something the size of an SUV 13,000 ft underwater. But I have jumped out of planes, explored caves with very iffy safeguards, survived some challenging wilderness adventures and traveled through very dangerous parts of the world, all where I took what I considered acceptable risks.
My only safety issue is that there should have been a rescue vehicle of the same type on the mothership and an independently powered locator system that could be remotely activated even in the event of an implosion.
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Ukraine has been approved for a fast track NATO membership. Zelensky will be happy as it means more money and arms, even though his country is now considered the 3rd best armed country in the world, just behind China and the U.S.”
We should all be happy that Ukraine would be under NATO’s umbrella.
However, I don’t see this happening while there are that many Russian troops inside Ukraine.
jan, do you have any ideas for how to end this war beyond unconditional surrender by Ukraine?
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If there is a debris field and it’s the sub it means it imploded.
They died in a split second. The most merciful way they could have gone.
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Seems like a “debris field” has been found. If it belongs to the submersible it would mean it imploded with instant death to occupants.
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“Boeing, Washington college deny developing Titan sub despite CEO touting it as proof it was ‘safe’
Boeing and the University of Washington have both denied being involved in developing the still-missing Titanic sub — despite the company’s CEO bragging about their help as proof it was “safe” and not “MacGyvered.”
A 2021 press release celebrating the Titan’s first successful 12,500-foot dive to the Titanic wreckage thanked Boeing as an “industry partner” giving “design and engineering support.”
However, Boeing told The Post early Thursday: “Boeing was not a partner on the Titan and did not design or build it.”
OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush — who was piloting the still-missing sub — had also namechecked Boeing as well as the University of Washington (UW) in a now-viral interview with CBS News in which he showed off how his deep-diving sub was run by a videogame controller.”
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Regarding waivers, they are almost useless in litigation. Judges usually find a way to toss them. Also, you can’t agree to let somebody else’s negligence harm you. Businesses usually have people sign them and hope that if something happens, they won’t sue because they think the waiver prevents it.
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Breaking (CBS News):
“A deep-sea robot found a ‘debris field’ while searching for a sub that went missing while carrying five people to the wreckage of the Titanic, the U.S. Coast Guard said Thursday. Experts were evaluating the discovery by the ROV, or remotely operated vehicle.
‘A debris field was discovered within the search area by an ROV near the Titanic,’ officials said.
Coast Guard officials were expected to discuss the findings during a news conference Thursday afternoon.”
–For the sake of the families of the victims, I hope they can confirm the debris was the imploded hull of the missing submersible. Much better to know that their loved ones died in an instant that from four days of horror, then suffocation.
The imploded hull theory seemed less likely given the simplicity of that part of the design. But if there was somehow a catastrophic hull failure, the victims would have died from blunt force trauma before the incoming water ever touched them.
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Yep, the implosion was not likely given that was the part of the design with best technology and least prone to fail. But I have viewed it as probably what happened because the other options would have allowed for either the emergency surfacing of the vessel or continued “pings” from it.
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Supposedly, last year negotiations were proceeding between Ukraine & Russia that were working on land boundaries to be established going back to 2014. The U.S. killed such a proposal. Today, it appears Zelensky is also eying taking back Crimea which would be hard for Russia to relinquish. So, I think there are few solutions to end this war except 1) if Putin was overthrown or 2) the US slowed down or stopped feeding armaments to Ukraine.
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Regarding waivers, they are almost useless in litigation. Judges usually find a way to toss them. ”
Maybe, although these specifically stated the vehicle was not regulated by any agency, which is usually not the case. Judges often toss waivers because it is easy to say some regulation was violated, voiding the waiver. So Disney might have you sign a waiver to go on a ride, but then a judge can determine some violation of a highly regulated industry and void it. Anyway, my comment was not so much about how valid the release is in court, but that the signers had a very clear understanding of the risks.
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Yes they would be dead long before they drowned. In the Kursk explosion the lucky ones died instantly, but some poor bastards survived long enough to send notes to loved ones.
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Something like 46 people participated in going down to view the Titanic during the prior 2 years. The total sum of people surprised me.
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jason, from wiki on the Kursk aftermath:
The government of Russia and the Russian Navy were intensely criticised over the incident and their responses. A four-page summary of a 133-volume, top-secret investigation revealed “stunning breaches of discipline, shoddy, obsolete and poorly maintained equipment”, and “negligence, incompetence, and mismanagement”. It concluded that the rescue operation was unjustifiably delayed and that the Russian Navy was completely unprepared to respond to the disaster.
In theory, some of the men could have been rescued had the response to the explosion been instant.
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The guy who described it as a kamikaze operation nonetheless took the trip.
Caveat emptor.
“At least 46 people successfully traveled on OceanGate’s submersible to the Titanic wreck site in 2021 and 2022, according to letters the company filed with a U.S. District Court in Norfolk, Virginia, that oversees matters involving the Titanic shipwreck.
One of the company’s first customers characterized a dive he made to the site two years ago as a “kamikaze operation.”
“Imagine a metal tube a few meters long with a sheet of metal for a floor. You can’t stand. You can’t kneel. Everyone is sitting close to or on top of each other,” said Arthur Loibl, a retired businessman and adventurer from Germany. “You can’t be claustrophobic.”
During the 2.5-hour descent and ascent, the lights were turned off to conserve energy, he said, with the only illumination coming from a fluorescent glow stick.
The dive was repeatedly delayed to fix a problem with the battery and the balancing weights. In total, the voyage took 10.5 hours.
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Yeah the Russian refused help until it was too late.
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jason, from what I read, yes, the communication to the missing submersible was lost before they could have reached the Titanic, but its also true that they had lost communication in prior trips, so that may have had nothing to do with the disaster. They are saying that this debris field they found is near the Titanic.
Maybe after losing communication, instead of returning to the surface and aborting the mission, they decided to press on, go to the Titanic, then the pilot did what they did before, get right up close, but then got too close and bumped into it, and with the extra force added to the sub’s hull from the strike, it could have been enough along with the load already pushing on the hull to trigger a catastrophic implosion.
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Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT
NEW: Rick Scott is considering a late entrance to the presidential race. @jonathanvswan me
– The only reason Scott might run is to help Trump. Remember, he ran against McConnell for leader because Trump wanted him to do so. Scott must think shanking DeSantis improves his chances of becoming either VP or a cabinet secretary.
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I know a couple of guys who built their own planes from kits you can buy. I would never fly in one of them. I mention that because even a homemade plane from a kit sounds like a safer option that taking a sub down to 12,000 below the ocean’s surface. I wouldn’t go in one of the subs that was certified for a depth like that either. There’s something about the vastness of the ocean that intimidates me.
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Sounds like it is official. “Titanic sub’s “landing frame and a rear cover” among the debris found, dive expert and friend of passengers tells BBC”
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Except that a previous dive seems to have lost those parts, so it could be debris from a a previous dive? However, seems like the CG is confirming parts from the missing submersible.
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R Adm John Mauger says families were informed immediately; undersea expert says five different major pieces of debris showed it was from Titan
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Bitter the missing posts have appeared.
What I like more about your new blog is that the commentary seems more substantial, rather than simply hit and run hits on people you disagree with.
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The only reason Scott might run is to help Trump.”
Amoral Scumbag logic.
If Trump supporters are also running, wouldn’t they take votes away from Trump.
A friend wants to know.
In any case the idea that “You need to feel my pain” Haley, Fat F–k Christie, Mike Pence, Tim Scott, Rick Scott, Vivek, etc. are all running to help Trump is ridiculous. The fact is NONE of them are really “MAGA”
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So it seems like it imploded before it even reached maximum depth. Evidently it takes 2 1/2 hours to get to 13,000 feet and the submersible was only gone for 1 1/2 hours. “Major malfunction” as the guy narrating the Challenger disaster said.
Evidently it has made dozens of trips without this kind of incident. I wonder if there was human error in sealing it properly.
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I think it is unfortunate the non-Trump candidates don’t rally around the Golden Calf. Maybe their delegates will eventually.
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Logic has never been your strong suit. Trump knows his core 35% to 40% support is unmovable. He’ll get those votes whether he’s running, in prison, or sitting in the electric chair waiting for the flip to be switched. That means more candidates in the race make his 35% to 40% that much more difficult to overcome.
Rick Scott isn’t potentially running for president because he thinks he can win. He knows he can’t because no one likes him. But he also knows the best way to get a position that matters (VP or cabinet) is to do something that helps conman Donnie. If that means running in a race that soaks up 3% of the vote and spends every waking day bashing DeSantis, he’ll do it.
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When it comes to any machine, manned or unmanned that works at that level of the deep ocean, there are no such things as ‘permanent’ parts. The sea takes its toll on the vessel with every dive. The hull, though seemingly the safest part of the craft is not immune to the ravages of taking on that incredible amount of pressure per square inch, over and over, and eventually, if it is not retired, it will give way.
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Repeated pressurization and depressurization of aircraft causes metal fatigue. In the famous crash of the British Comet passenger jet, that’s what was found to have caused the crash.
Almost certainly, the repeated trips to such a depth caused fatigue in the sub and a minute crack or weakness formed and eventually lead to the breakup.
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No doubt lawyers for the families of the Titanic tourist victims are already at work. They will put to test the ‘reasonable man’ measurement against the actions of the OceanGate CEO. Forget all the waivers that were signed, the lawyers will bring to the stand as witnesses, deep sea experts and they will be asked, “Is it reasonable to ignore this long list of safety concerns, #1…”
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They are saying that this debris field they found is near the Titanic.”
Well that means nothing, they descended near the Titanic. It was actually 1600 feet from the Titanic, so likely they never got there.
“Maybe after losing communication, instead of returning to the surface and aborting the mission, they decided to press on, go to the Titanic,”
No. They needed communication to proceed. There is no GPS underwater. They navigated via text messages. If they lost communication 1 hr 45 minutes into the dive, they would have had to return, no way of going forward.
Plus the submersible emits pings every 15 minutes in any case. The fact the pings stopped at the same time communication was lost was the main reason I thought an implosion was the most likely explanation.
Also if there was an implosion, why no debris on the surface? Because it was so deep, they were probably at least 2 miles underwater, the currents would take any floating debris far from the site, maybe tens or hundreds of miles before they surfaced.
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I would imagine the hatch/view port was what failed, unlikely the titanium hull would implode. As pointed out above, repeated stress weakens components. It is possible there was fatigue in an area of the seal.
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Almost certainly, the repeated trips to such a depth caused fatigue in the sub and a minute crack or weakness formed and eventually lead to the breakup
Amoral Scumbag is correct. Even a blind Dem squirrel finds an acorn once in awhile.
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Logic has never been your strong suit.
Rick Scott isn’t potentially running for president because he thinks he can win. He knows he can’t because no one likes him. But he also knows the best way to get a position that matters (VP or cabinet) is to do something that helps conman Donnie”
LOL
So YOUR logic is that Rick Scott is running for President because that MIGHT get him a cabinet position from a rival candidate he probably knows cannot win a GE?
Damm, I think I will stick with my logic.
NONE of these candidates is running for VP or cabinet position in Trump’s administration. NONE.
In the first place, I doubt any of them thinks he can win the GE. Second, running for President is a lot of work and expensive.
Scott and Scott are sitting senators. Pence was VP. Haley was Governor and UN Ambassador. They aren’t running for President for a potential cabinet position for a candidate who might not win the nomination or the Presidency.
They are running because they saw a guy ride down an escalator with less chance than they have become President.
You read it here first.
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Rick Scott is a Trump ally through and through. He challenged McConnell for leader last November at the behest of Trump. He endorsed and defended all of Trump’s awful Senate endorsements in 2022 (Walker, Mastriano, Masters) and, most importantly, Scott hates DeSantis. He knows his candidacy would make it easier for Trump to win with just 35% to 40%.
I’m quite certain Trump has suggested to Scott that he will be rewarded in a future Trump presidency (a fantasy that won’t happen). And the reason I know Trump is the source for Scott’s plans was Maggie Haberman reported it. You can bet your bottom dollar Trump called Haberman and told her what Scoot was going to do.
As for Nikki Haley, she’s 100% running for VP. Her candidacy has gone nowhere and she’s decided the best way to get a leg up on 2028 is to be conman Donnie’s VP. The same goes for that smarmy turd Vivek Ramaswamy. I think Tim Scott is eyeing VP as well, but we’ll see. If he’s still polling in the low single digits in early January and stays in the race, we’ll know he’s playing to be Donnie’s VP.
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Jason fraud is correct none of Trump’s primary opponents believe he can win a general election, but they all believe being his VP would give them a leg up on the 2028 race and the pole position to inherit conman Donnie’s voters. I think it’s a laughable strategy since Donnie’s voters aren’t transferrable, but that’s what they’re calculating. Haley and Tim Scott know they aren’t going to be the nominee. Heck, I suspect Desantis has already had thoughts about making sure his 2024 candidacy doesn’t irrevocably hurt him with Trump voters in 2028. they’re all, at least in their own minds, playing the long game.
In the end, none of this will matter, though. Trump will run again in 2028 so all of this “strategery” by Haley, Tim Scott, Rick Scott, and the others is a waste of time.
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I assume most are thinking that some sort of shakeup is likely to happen with Trump unable to be the nominee and DeSantis crashing. They want to be around just in case fate smiles upon them.
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I found it interesting that all the R presidential candidates said they would fire FBI Director Wray, except one. That one is Chris Christie.
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Well, Christie is my top choice right now in the primary since he supports military aid to Ukraine. Haley is the next choice for the same reason.
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More Trump foolery. He doesn’t need the GOP to ballot harvest…he already has enough votes to win in a landslide.
https://twitter.com/nvrbackdown24/status/1672035106234433537?s=61&t=uLyKpWBwDwyCK292uUHCSA
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Some of my major issues in the ‘24 election are China’s expansion, uncontrolled border, needed reform in the DOJ and intelligent departments. Christie certainly doesn’t meet any of my criteria, especially as he is giving Wray a pass, is doubling down on bashing Trump and is all in for unrestrained Ukraine spending. Most of the other candidates seem light weight and kind of milquetoast in their campaigns so far. I also remain unconvinced about DeSantis’s ability to separate himself from meeting the demands of his many corporate, well-heeled donors vs the needs of the people.
Candidates who have caught my favorable attention are Francis Suarez (Miami mayor), Vivek, and RFK. The latter one, even though he is a dem, has a lot of depth and knowledge about pharmaceutical companies, the corruption in the CIA/FBI, and wants to close the border – all topics which mirror my own concerns. Furthermore, RFK’s stance regarding the side effects of the vaccines, and his research into the falsehoods of Fauci dealing with both AIDS and the recent COVID pandemic made him a standout, IMO.
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You mean Dr. Fauci who was brought to prominence by Trump? You mean Wray who was appointed by Trump? You mean the corporations that have the same protectionist, anti-free trade policies of Trump?
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Fauci and Birx were both brought on board to the COVID task force by Trump/Pence. Fauci was a renowned immunologist and director of the NIH, the guy who determined where all grant funding was distributed. The establishment viewed him as a medical God, who in reality was a ruthless, greedy fraud. Later Trump backed Scott Atlas to join the task force, a much better choice who was squeezed out by a Fauci/Birx because he didn’t agree with their guidance.
I believe it was your guy Christie who recommended Trump appoint Wray.
Trump believes in tariffs for those who apply high taxes for goods exported to them by U.S. I guess you want to call that protectionist, anti free trade that help corporations. However, Trump viewed his policies as helping the worker. He also worked against off-shoring jobs abroad which did not work in multinational corporations favor.
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Trump world propaganda… I also remain unconvinced about DeSantis’s ability to separate himself from meeting the demands of his many corporate, well-heeled donors vs the needs of the people.
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Trump was in over his head and was a terrible administrator. It caught up with him in 2020. He is a reckless emotionally immature child. He was stupid enough he admitted on Fox News the other day the obstruction of justice charge. His VP is against him, his Ambassador to the UN is against him, his old buddy Christie is against him, two secretaries of Defense, 1 Attorney General, two directors of communications, 2 chief of staffs, secretary of education, treasury secretary and the list goes on.
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2024 National Republican Primary, Consider supporting/Not support under any circumstances:
DeSantis 79%/21% (+58)
Trump 78%/23% (+55)
Scott 65%/34% (+31)
Haley 62%/37% (+25)
Pence 56%/44% (+12)
Burgum 38%/60% (-22)
Christie 39%/61% (-22)
@CNN
561 RV, 6/13-17
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DeSantis is doing great. He has a very clear agenda and actually has already accomplished most of it in Florida. He exposed Trumps BS this morning in a press conference…it was masterfully done.
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Scott refuted that rumor today. He is running for Senate again.
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Trump has repeatedly said this week that operation warp speed and how his administration handled Covid saved MILLIONS of lives. Including all the Trillions of stimulus and payouts that led to this inflation. He still believes that bogus UW analysis Birx and Fauci used to scare people with. He will lose a lot of voters with that message.
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Some of those donors supported Trump twice. Most all of them did in 2020.
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People hated Trump when he ran for president in 2016, belittling his chances of winning. From the get-go once he won there were members in both parties who were planning his political demise. I don’t remember a smooth period of time during his entire presidency where the knives weren’t out for him to fail, from the opposition party, a compromised staff around him, and establishment republicans. Despite all the resistance, obstacles and deception the country did pretty well under his leadership – he passed a lot of good policies, new trade deals, revived healthcare under the VA, killed bomb makers and terrorist leaders abroad., started no new wars, and at the end of his term the economy, following COVID lockdowns, was coming back with inflation below 2%, energy independence yielding lower gas prices.
I’ve given Trump credit where credit is due.
JeffP you grind Trump constantly, attributing anything”bad” to Trump himself, apparently forgetting the beneficial aspects of his time in office – glaringly better should Hillary had won instead.
I really don’t know if I will vote for him this time around. However, I will not trash him even if I choose someone else, as I think he had a commendable performance as POTUS under stressful, dire circumstances.
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Trump should suspend his campaign. He is nothing but controlled opposition now. Spend some time with his grand children.
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He did some good things and I respect how exposed the corruption. I still laugh when I think of a reality show star appointed there SCOTUS judges. He clearly over promised and under delivered. He allowed people to play him a fool by feeding his narcissistic ego.
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Yeah I will never forgive him for how he handled Covid and encouraged the fear porn and destroyed the lives of millions. He has no regrets. The vaccine was a complete failure and he still brags about it.
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‘Hunter Biden deducted payments to hooker from his taxes’
I have no problem with this. Seems like a legitimate business expense if it helped him prepare for stressful meetings.
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Heck, I suspect Desantis has already had thoughts about making sure his 2024 candidacy doesn’t irrevocably hurt him with Trump voters in 2028. ‘
LOL
He should be more worried about not getting hurt with Trump voters in 2024.
I think he got the message. He has Christina Pushaw out there doing the heavy lifting against Trump while the Golden Calf remains above the fray.
It is the right strategy, but the right strategy doesn’t always win out.
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I am stunned that the New York Times actually printed this:
“The lead I.R.S. agent investigating whether Hunter Biden committed tax crimes told Congress his team uncovered evidence that Mr. Biden had invoked his father, who was then out of office, while pressing a potential Chinese business partner in 2017 to move ahead with a proposed energy deal, House Republicans said.
In testimony made public on Thursday, Gary Shapley, an I.R.S. agent since 2009 who supervised the tax agency’s investigation into Hunter Biden, said his team used a search warrant to obtain a July 30, 2017, WhatsApp message from Mr. Biden to Henry Zhao, a Chinese businessman.
In a summary of the message, provided to the House Ways and Means Committee by Mr. Shapley, Mr. Biden told Mr. Zhao that he was sitting with his father and that “we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled.””
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DeSantis town hall is SC yesterday.
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Lauri Markkanen is star basketball player with the Utah Jazz. He has a four year contract which will earn him 67 million dollars.
Markkanen is from Finland, where all males are required to report for military service by age 30. The initial training is 165 to 255 days. If someone has a dual citizenship, which Markkanen likely could get, they can avoid service. However, as a good Finn, Markkanen will report for his 1st half of military training this summer, and the second half next summer. He will then remain in the reserves doing periodic training until he is near 60 years of age.
“”It’s mandatory, we have to do it, but at the same time we take pride in it, too,” Markkanen told ESPN’s Ramona Shelburne. “I think it sets an example to serve. And I’m confident I can do it in a way that it’s not going to affect my preparation for next season, either.””
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Jan would still vote for Trump if he shot her in the middle of Fifth Avenue.
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“@visegrad24
5 pro-Russian men attacked a man in Prague because of him being Ukrainian.
They beat him severely and he lost vision permanently on one eye
It later turned out that he was actually Russian.”
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Biden doubles-down on his demand to build a railroad over the Indian Ocean. This is a new quote:
BIDEN: “…moving ourselves, having railway to go all the way across the southern two-thir—the, from the Atlantic Ocean to the, to the Indian Ocean in Africa!”
Last time it was a railroad from the Pacific all the way over the Indian Ocean, this time it’s the Atlantic. Maybe he wants the railroad to completely go around the world!
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Headed to Prague and Krakow Poland in September. A couple big bucket list items to see with my wife…one being Auschwitz. It will be interesting to get a feel from locals how things are going from their perspective.
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Meant to post this at the end of the thread:
Biden doubles-down on his demand to build a railroad over the Indian Ocean. This is a new quote:
BIDEN: “…moving ourselves, having railway to go all the way across the southern two-thir—the, from the Atlantic Ocean to the, to the Indian Ocean in Africa!”
Last time it was a railroad from the Pacific all the way over the Indian Ocean, this time it’s the Atlantic. Maybe he wants the railroad to completely go around the world!
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So the Navy admits that they knew the submersible had imploded because they heard it. But they stayed silent for four days, until the debris was found. Why? Could it be the Obama people running the Biden Admin ordered the Navy to keep it quiet so there would be a distracting four days of media frenzy over the missing sub to take away coverage from growing exposure of the Biden crime family?
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A better question may be why hasn’t Prigozhin fallen out of a window yet?
“penderbook
How did he go from being the Butcher of Bakhmut to a peacenik in the span of 3 weeks.”
“Prigozhin says again that Rusian lines in Zaporizhzhia and Kherson are falling, and it is only a matter of time until moves similar to Kherson and Kharkiv regroupings take place. Local Russian commanders are forced to provide false reports on their positions so as to not antagonise the high command.”
“Zelensky, when he became president, was ready for agreements. All that had to be done was to get down from Mount Olympus, go and negotiate with him” – Prigozhin
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If RFK Jr. were to get the Dem nomination, I would actively campaign against him and for any Republican other than Trump.
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The Atlantic Ocean to Indian Ocean railroad is a real thing. Railway across Africa.
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DW,
Here’s details of the railroad. Why Biden’s brain gets Pacific and Atlantic mixed up is a concern. I agree with that.
https://www.miningreview.com/central-africa/united-states-looks-to-invest-in-lobito-atlantic-railway-corridor/
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That might be a bit of a stretch.
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DeSantis has been ambiguous regarding Ukraine. I doubt he will take the Victoria Newland approach to foreign policy. However being the pragmatic problem solving leader he is and the only candidate with military service I am sure he has some thoughts on what he thinks is best. I look forward to how he views it from a foreign policy standpoint.
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So the Navy admits that they knew the submersible had imploded because they heard it. But they stayed silent for four days, until the debris was found. Why?”
I will give them the benefit of doubt on that one. Noise of an implosion is not proof it was actually the submersible implosion and you can’t suspend search and rescue based on a noise event. If it turned out they were wrong and they had left 5 people to suffocate on the ocean floor there would be hell to pay.
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“Zelensky, when he became president, was ready for agreements. All that had to be done was to get down from Mount Olympus, go and negotiate with him” – Prigozhin”
Zzzzz…. Putin wants the Ukraine as part of his plan to recreate the USSR or a “Greater Russia”. He was not interested in any “negotiations”.
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“On June 21, 2018, Greta Thunberg tweeted that “climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years.” Five years have come and almost gone, and the tweet has been suspiciously deleted.
Thunberg is claiming her point was misinterpreted, but any way you look at it, the climate cartel is dead wrong — again — about the fate of humanity. In fact, there’s almost nothing about the climate change movement that stands up to science.”
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To be fair, the quote says NOTHING about us being wiped out in five years. The gist of the quote is if we don’t make changes in the next five years, climate change will wipe us out. Greta would add that we would then be on a trajectory for problems in 50 years. Still one could argue that humanity won’t ever be wiped out. But have problems in 50 years.
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DeSantis has been ambiguous regarding Ukraine. ”
Yes, that is unfortunate. Were I a registered R it would preclude me from voting for him. Any R that doesn’t understand that Putin needs to be defeated in Ukraine because it is also in OUR national interest and any R unwilling to support Ukraine in whatever is needed to achieve that goal does not deserve my vote.
The Golden Calf is trying to sit on the fence on an issue that requires forceful leadership. It is disappointing. I understand there is a large contingent of Pro-Putin and isolationist R voters he is trying not to alienate but if he wants to lead the country he can start by taking principled stands right now.
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To be fair, the quote says NOTHING about us being wiped out in five years.”
We know Paul is a moron, but the quote says EXACTLY that.
“climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years.”
I don’t know what Paul moron doesn’t understand about “climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years.” “.
“The gist of the quote”
No, Paul moron, the “gist” of the quote is “climate change will wipe out all of humanity unless we stop using fossil fuels over the next five years.”
Which was of course impossible unless we destroyed the world’s economy and starved, froze, and roasted about 5 billion people. Fossil fuels STILL PROVIDE OVER 80% OF THE WORLD’S ENERGY. Without it most of the world would be without power, transportation, food, and water.
Paul is stupider than Greta, but is that a surprise?
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Hey Paul moron, you and Greta might want to consider this fact.
“By 2032, fossil fuels will still account for 78% of the global energy mix, down only slightly from 81% in 2022.”
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Sure, Paul, but watch the clip…he is totally lost. Has no idea what he’s trying to say. All he has to do is read what is put in big letters for him on the teleprompter and he can’t do it. Imagine if he had to give this speech extemporaneously.
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New headline:
“America’s First Elected Transgender State Rep. Arrested on Child Porn Charges”
I know, I know, I shouldn’t post this because it runs the risk that Tgca will appear suddenly to say something.
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I was sort of half-joking, but then someone else had the same idea:
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2023/06/23/ny-post-columnist-has-a-theory-why-the-biden-white-house-waited-to-reveal-titanic-sub-deaths-n2624889
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I thought Bitter was from Philly why do we have a picture of Phoenix Arizona?
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There have been no Tgca sightings since HHR closed.
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Report: Hunter Biden Was Blacklisted From Sex Club”
Supposedly the reason the owner gave was that “Hunter is a scumbag”.,
This is outrageous. Scumbags should not be discriminated against, they are citizens too. At the airline where I work, scumbags are a protected class and we even have our own lounge. Amoral Scumbags have even better privileges, I am allowed space in the mini fridge.
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Rumor is someone wearing a “Child Mutilations now, Child Mutilations tomorrow, Child Mutilations Forever” T-shirt arrested for dumping hundreds of dead fish into a canal in FL but I don’t have confirmation it was him.
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Another bad day for JeffP and his fellow Putin sycophants.
“Sweden announced that it will allow Ukrainian Pilots to start test flying Swedish Saab JAS 39 Gripen Fighter Jets as part of its 12th Military Aid Package (Reuters)
The Saab Jas 39 Gripen are among the best multirole Fighter Jets in the world and are suitable for Ukraine”
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This weekend the Faith and Freedom Coalition of evangelicals will meet. Included in thei 70 speakers announced will be an almost full set of Republican hopefuls running for president. This is the first time they can all be reviewed together at the same event. That, all unto itself, will be interesting and revealing.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-desantis-pence-haley-scott-six-other-2024-republicans-court-social-conservatives-key-confab
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Here’s what was learned from IRS whistleblower testimony:
– The IRS gave Hunter Biden’s tax case preferential treatment
– The DOJ interfered with the investigation at every turn
– The IRS retaliated against those very whistleblowers for telling the truth
And yet, what will be done about it by the justice department? Oh, I forgot, there is evidence that DOJ Garland also lied, meaning any meaningful oversight is impossible.
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As the Washington Free Beacon reported:
If Joe Biden was sitting next to his son as he sent the message as it suggests, it would be a fatal blow to the president’s repeated claims that he never discussed overseas business deals with his son, and the photographs of Hunter Biden at what appears to be a family gathering at the Delaware home is the strongest indication that he was in close proximity to his father when he threatened the Chinese businessman. The White House did not respond to a request for comment.
Hunter wrote Zhao a few days later on Aug. 2, 2017, “[m]y family sends their best wishes and looks forward to playing some golf when the director has time.”
Zhao then responded, “[b]est regards to you, Jim and VP” — an apparent reference to then-former Vice President Joe Biden and his brother, Jim Biden.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/06/23/report-photos-on-hunter-bidens-laptop-place-him-at-fathers-home-on-day-he-texted-chinese-business-partner/
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I wondered the same thing.
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If he is the nominee, I’ll still vote for him. If RFK jr. gets the nominee, then I’m a Republican.
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Jason,
I disagree with Greta. I was just pointing out that her deal about wiping out humanity wasn’t to happen in five years but would be some time down the road if we didn’t change our ways in five years. I disagree with that. Whatever we do, we won’t be wiping out humanity.
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Again. I wasn’t agreeing with Greta. I was just clarifying what was she said.
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Jan – I don’t agree with everything you post. However, now that the clown show is over, I appreciate that you have continued interest in posting without being drowned out. That said, no free lunch so we will continue to disagree on some issues.
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It’s great there have been whistleblowers. However the law enforcers are the law breakers. The House and Senate aren’t going to do anything of consequence. Decency and honor are non existent today. The corruption and two tired justice system we are witnessing will never change until a GOP President has the guts to use his Article 2 authority. At least DeSantis has a detailed plan already. It will take 8 years to undo the damage within the administrative state. There is no sense in any of us whining about it. It’s time for action.
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What a scam by Ccp Biden and the fib. Corruption and targeting foes for political purposes. We are a banana republic.
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Jeff, you mean two tiered. But I am also tired of the corruption within justice and the fib. Time for the house to,clawback funding. Take away wrong Wray plane and end the new building.
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Thanks…I am the king of typo’s.
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I do think Biden is going to be taken out of running for re-election soon.
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I am the Queen. Anyway, I. Never checked back in to Hhr the last two weeks. It. Was a slow burn. Sad how it ended
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Makes sense. Msm actually launched at the press Secretary today. (Aka the chia pet).
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I am convinced that 31/36 counts or whatever get tossed against trump. Espionage does not apply to a former president.
Then we get into the subpoena being addressed to a governmental office and not to Trump individually.
Then presidential records act. Former presidents act and transition regulations apply.
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Hopefully a bright lawyah tells me what §2205(3) means. It says former president has right to his record. They are made “available” to him or his rep at any time.
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I thought bitter does not travel out west either. I didn’t know he loves Phoenix, Arizona. Lol.
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Thank goodness Biden’s Beotch blocked the gremlin from the sc.
ALX 🇺🇸
@alx
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GARLAND: “Some have chosen to attack the integrity of the Justice Department… This constitutes an attack on an institution that is essential to American democracy.”
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Wagner group turned on Russia?
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Bitter, I appreciate your honesty. So, we will agree to disagree keeping your blog open to different POVs.
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The continual frustration has been there is no honest broker or oversight over all the illegal and corrupt rulings, actions, partisan deals, foreign pay-offs that seems to have no end in sight.
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https://www.gbnews.com/news/russia-civil-war-wagner-group-vladimir-putin-ukraine
Wow!
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https://twitter.com/KarliBonnita/status/1672388101115715584?cxt=HHwWgIC92cCHwrUuAAAA
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It seems like the Russian hoaxers and other Ds are trying to abort the dictator.
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Cn and n too.
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Be careful about Russian coup plots. First reports in that region are known to be more wrong than right. This could be why we are getting Russia coup news.
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He was wacky. I am sure he was deep into Q. He never denied one time.
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Prigozhin has stated his forces are on the move, and being bombed:
“The start of a coup in Russia?
“The evil that the military leadership of the country bears must be stopped. I ask you not to resist anyone. Everyone who tries will be destroyed. Justice in the troops will be restored, and after that, justice in all of Russia,” Prigozhin says.”
****
In a new audio statement, Prigozhin has just announced that Wagner units are now entering Rostov.
“If anyone gets in the way, we will destroy everyone. We move on and we go to the end
****
Prigozhin:
“The Chief of the Russian General Staff Valery Gerasimov gave the order to attack Wagner columns by aircraft only the pilots refused to carry out his order.”
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From BBC:
“Russian state media reports that the FSB, Russia’s security services, have opened a criminal case against Prigozhin, accusing him of “calling for an armed rebellion” and attempting to start armed civil conflict in Russia.
The FSB has also reportedly called on Wagner fighters to disobey Prigozhin’s orders and to take steps to apprehend him.
The Russian defence ministry said in a statement that “all reports by Prigozhin spread on social media” of Russian strikes on Wagner camps were “not true and are an information provocation”.
The Kremlin has also said “necessary measures are being taken”, according to Russian news agency Interfax.
In a tweet late on Friday, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence said simply: “We are watching.””
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Tina you need to calm this guy down. Everything is fine in Russia, just a minor disagreement — a little squabble.
“@d_smeathers
Right what the hell is going on, I last did my UA twitter check this morning now everything’s going apes- – it, something about Wagner mutiny.”
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Prigozhin is such a drama queen. Tina needs to calm him down:
❗️New audio statement by Prigozhin (00:03 BST), stating Wagner “crossed state borders in all areas” and is now entering Rostov, promising to “destroy anything standing in their way”:
“The current situation: today, we were dealt a missile strike. After this strike, helicopters did their work. Then, artillery.
The orders were coming from the Head of General Staff to destroy PMC Wagner. After a meeting with the Minister of Defence Shoygu where they made this decision – to destroy the rebellious units, who are ready to defend the motherland, but not their asses.
As of now, we’ve crossed the state borders in all areas. Border guards came towards us and hugged our fighters.
Now, we’re entering Rostov. Units of the Ministry of Defence, in fact, the conscripts who were thrown to block our path, moved away.
We do not fight with children. We do not kill children. Shoygu is killing children by throwing untrained soldiers, conscripts included, into the war.
He set up 18-year-old lads against us. They’re like children and grandchildren to us. Therefore, these lads will live and return to their mothers.
We only fight with professionals. But if someone stands in our path, we will destroy EVERYTHING in our way.
We lend a hand to anyone. No need to spit in this hand. We are moving forward, going to the end.
Regarding claims regarding the arrest: this brotherhood, this justice, this honour, this conscience is what we have. But when you make these claims, you haven’t got these feelings. These feelings are destroyed. Thus, you cannot understand anything but betrayal.”
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BREAKING:
“The Wagner Group has launched a military coup and are now fighting against the Russian Army.
Around 30 000 Wagner soldiers have now taken control of a large area north of the Russian city of Rostov.
A Russian helicopter has been shot down.”
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Wagner is in control of the Southern Military district headquarters in Rostov. Some crazy stuff is happening and will happen in the next few days.
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The question now is where is Putin? The Russian military has poured troops and military equipment into Moscow. It appears to be to defend against Prigozhin. But it would also provide the Russian military the chance to push Putin aside:
“Russian terrorist Guzenko “13th”: pleads to avoid bloodshed for “both sides”: “God sees everything, he will not abandon our country”:
“Also, I would like to say that God forbid the blood of fighters on both sides to spill. Remember that we all stand for the same goal: to preserve our country. And we’re moving towards minimising the deaths of our fellow Russian citizens. Better even, stop them. So, brothers on both sides, think well, I’m really asking everyone. No one should pull the trigger. I believe you can find a way out of any situation. It will resolve somehow, God sees everything. He will not abandon our country.”
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@visegrad24
6m
Civilians live-streaming the Wagner Group’s assault on the headquarters of the Russian Defense Ministry in Rostov.
Historic footage!
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What is to come could be worse than Putin.
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So the psycho special counsel now wants to extend the box hoax trial until December of 2023. This is his request to the judge under filing. Box hoax trisl will never be tried.
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I saw that…crazy.
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This is the “smartest guy”. the demented dictator has ever known. On another note, how do you get kicked out of such a party?
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Hunter Biden kicked out of $10K sex party for ‘grabbing women’s asses’ https://trib.al/GeAGEHL
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Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
@Heroiam_Slava
Presumably another video of the Wagner PMC convoy on the way to the Moscow russia
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@GaryInM
2h
‘Cause we got a little ol’ convoy
Rockin’ through the night
Yeah, we got a little ol’ convoy
Ain’t she a beautiful sight?
Come on and join our convoy
Ain’t nothin’ gonna get in our way
We gonna roll this truckin’ convoy
To Moscow in one day
Convoy… convoy…
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Somebody should have warned Putin that when you give weapons and power to a separate army of convict mercenaries there might be a downside.
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“It is reported that Wagner’s column has passed the first checkpoints.
They say they are on their way to Novocherkassk, where the army headquarters are. It is also known that a column of 400 vehicles left Millerovo in the direction of Moscow.”
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I am sorry this has happened to our legion of HHR Putin Lapdogs and Stooges. But there is also hope Putin can right the ship and start killing Ukrainians again, so don’t despair.
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The goalposts they are a’moving…..
Until today:
BIDEN: I have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else, anything having to do with their businesses, period.
BIDEN: I’ve never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings.”
Today:
NEW from @IanSams46
, spox for the WH Counsels office, in light of whistleblower allegations:
SAMS: “As we have said many times before, the President was not in business with his son.”
I supposed technically if you are just receiving kickbacks you are not really “in business” with the payers.
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@DarthPutinKGB
I’m beginning to think that giving a psychopath his own private army of criminals was not a good idea.
Darth Putin
@DarthPutinKGB
I’m not worried about this coup. Given how long it took Wagner to get Bakhmut they’ll not get to Moscow before 2049.
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DOJ asks Judge to move Trump trial date to December 11th. Right before IOWA and NH.
Also Trumps alleged bag man Nauta wasn’t arraigned yet so he DID NOT give a plea yet. (June 13th The same day, defendant Nauta made his initial appearance before Judge Goodman, but has not yet been arraigned or entered a plea. Nauta’s arraignment is scheduled for June 27, 2023.) Is he entering into a plea agreement? That would spell doom for Trump.
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Speaking of Putin, where is he? This crisis may give his generals the excuse to topple him. They reputably loath him.
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So far on Friday NC Lt Gov Mark Robinson endorsed Trump for 2024. The crowd stood up and cheered. Chris Christie trashed Trump and was booed by the same crowd.
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Also Trumps alleged bag man Nauta wasn’t arraigned yet so he DID NOT give a plea yet.
Where did you get Nauta was a “bagman?”
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Hyperbole
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Ah, he’s a valet!
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Doesn’t Prigozhin want to be more aggressive in defeating Ukraine?
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I get it. He’s a valet!
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He was loading and moving the boxes…LOL.
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I think he packed them up in the WH too.
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“The Russian Ministry of Defense released a statement:
“We appeal to Wagner assault squads. You were tricked into Prigozhin’s criminal adventure and participating in an armed rebellion. Be prudent and get in touch with our representatives as soon as possible. We guarantee safety”
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“Russian media report that a counter-terrorist operation regime has been introduced in Moscow and the Moscow Region.
Meanwhile Kremlin Spokesman Peskov says that in the near future, Putin will make an urgent appeal.”
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“it looks like the rostov police have picked a side, they are escorting wagner trucks”
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Twitter is on 🔥 worldwide:
Ulysses O’Chongo
4h
Replying to
@secretsqrl123
Putin allowed to live in exile in his castle, or, finds himself on the wrong side of a window?
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@saintjavelin
Please remember that the goal of the special military operation was always regime change so “technically” things are going according to plan?
@Lmachain1
How’s the Russian-Ukrainian war going? Well, Wagner might finally take the capital… but there’s nuance…
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Doesn’t appear so now. In the very unlikely chance he wins, believe he might move to end the conflict.
However, feel it’s far more likely the Russian generals remove Putin, and then move to end the war. Hopefully Putin is shipped to the Hague and charged with war crimes.
@cossackgundi
An interesting new video from Prigozhin
“Ukraine did not bomb the Donbass for 8 years, but only exchanged blows with the Russian army, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were not going to attack the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Defense is deceiving the public and the president, – Prigozhin.”
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BREAKING:
The Wagner Group has taken control of Russian military facilities in Voronezh.
@visegrad24
A large military column is in the Voronezh region and heading toward Moscow. At least 72 vehicles spotted.
(They have already shot down three helicopters)
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@Maks_NAFO_FELLA
In essence, he indirectly called Prigozhin a traitor and compared it to 1917!
“The armed forces of the Russian Federation received the necessary order to neutralize those who organized the armed rebellion” – Putin
“Those who embark on the path of blackmail and terrorist methods will be punished. They will answer to the country and the people” – Putin
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“Another 180 Russian servicemen and security officials refused to interfere with the action of the Wagner PMC and laid down their arms.
Bugaevka border crossing 👀”
There is even a picture of them all standing together in their defiance.
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Been in the blog sphere and Ukraine Twitter space for several hours. Below is the best summary of what appears to be likely happening in Russia now:
1/ Russia’s security forces are reported to be in disarray following the attempted mutiny by the Wagner Group. It seems to have been perfectly timed for a moment – Friday night – when many personnel were too drunk to respond quickly, while others are refusing to fight Wagner.
5/ Unwillingness to fight Wagner appears to be a common theme. “There is real panic in Rostov, especially among the police. There is more than a 40 percent shortfall in personnel among those called up in connection with Operation Fortress” (to defend security installations)
6/ Wagner forces were able to cross the border from Ukraine without opposition, despite orders not to let them through. “Both the border service of the FSB and the Interior Ministry received instructions to stop the Wagner PMC. No one is complying, as it is not realistic.
7/ Most ominously for the Kremlin, elements of the security forces appear to be actively siding with Wagner or refusing to act against it.
8/ “The defence ministry has lost control over a number of units and formations of the South Eastern Military District, it will not be possible to organise defence by the Rosgvardia [Russian National Guard] and the FSB. Local leaders are extremely careful in their statements”.
9/ “Attempts to counter Prigozhin are only going through the FSB and the National Guard. The Ministry of Defence has simply withdrawn, junior officers either refuse to follow orders or directly support Wagner.”
10/ And Shoigu and the [MOD leadership] team just hid and completely lost touch with reality. The fear is obviously serious.” Wagner is reported to be directly taking control of some South Eastern Military District units.
11/ “A number of units of the Ministry of Defence that participated in the war are beginning to come under the command of Wagner. Entire corps. Shoigu and Gerasimov’s people are being removed.
12/ General Gerasimov himself has not been seen in public since the mutiny began. According to Wagner channels, he was in Rostov when it fell to Wagner forces.
13/ He is said to have “escaped from the Rostov [military] headquarters along with people loyal to him” and “is holed up in a civilian apartment with his friends in Rostov.” /end
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It’s Philadelphia. The clock and statue are part of City Hall.
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27m
I think this goes without saying but Wagner is not your ally even if they want to topple Putin/MoD. The best case scenario is they start killing each other, it goes completely out of hand and Ukrainians take back what’s theirs as quickly as possible.
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It may put Putin in a position where he is willing to accept an olive branch from the US where he withdraws mostly, keeps Crimea, gets immediate relief from embargoes and western support. Maybe Putin can join NATO so that we can help him defeat the Wagners.
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Wagners are turning around because some deal was brokered. Not sure how they smooth over a major attempted coup and go back to normal. So, who knows what is next.
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This should be the end of the Golden Calf. In a hit piece “DeSantis Baseball Career at Yale gets New Scrutiny” the article claims his excellent individual performance did not always result in team wins.
Devastating.
“The Daily Pennsylvanian notes that the Governor was by all accounts a good captain, but the Bulldogs struggled during his time on the team.
“DeSantis collected 77 hits during years two and three with the Bulldogs, and notched an impressive on-base percentage of .380. Arguably his best college season came during his junior year, when he set career highs in hits with 44, home runs at five, and with 28 RBIs. However, the Bulldogs became cellar dwellers of the Ivy League, bottoming out with a 3-17 conference record in 2000,” notes reporter Walker Carnahan.
His senior year’s captaincy didn’t lead to on field wins.”
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