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Where is this?
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87 responses to “Where is this?”
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Merville, France.
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Not France
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Butler, PA.
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I thought STAUB was the key clue.
Lancaster, PA
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Not Pennsylvania
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Ohio
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Not Ohio, but that’s a good guess
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Its not a nice community, as the ugly billboard welcome motorists entering town from the south.
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And the billboard does not say Staub, but rather these are what’s left of the letters in Restaurant. Above that, it says, “GEM’S”
But its another very hard to see word on the billboard that is the dead giveaway.
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If At least 5 Supreme Court justices decide that the 14th Amendment was intended to give children born to illegal aliens in the future the same rights as freed slaves, so be it. Then the campaign to amend that will need to take place, starting in every big city.
It is an issue worth fighting over.
Why would a child born overseas to an American be an American, but a child born in America to a citizen of another country, and not here legally, also be American?
Meanwhile, if a foreign diplomat has a child here, the child is a citizen of the parents home country, same as a child born in a foreign country to an American diplomat is an American citizen.
Logic says both situations should be the same, I would think.
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Fun.
I’ll wait for others to make guesses to find out where it is.
Thanks, DW.
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https://americanmind.org/salvo/birthright-citizenship-game-on/
”As a result of this order and the inevitable legal challenges to it, the Supreme Court will now, for the first time, have the opportunity to acknowledge that the Claremont Institute’s long-standing view of the Citizenship Clause is the correct one. With the Court currently composed of more originalist justices than has been the case in more than a century, we anticipate with great optimism a careful and considered assessment of the clause and a restoration of the fundamental notion that ours is a country rooted in consent, not in the old feudal notion of jus soli that was so thoroughly rejected in our Declaration of Independence.”
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I saw the words”restaurant” early on. But, IMO, the scene depicted could be “anywhere.”
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Maybe I will post a second picture from the same community and throw it open for everyone who has already guessed to make second guesses. I will do so if nobody gets it soon.
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Retro Coast
@RetroCoast
Breaking: reports of PANIC in the D.C. Metropolitan Jail Prison guards are panicking about the brutal treatment they meted out to #J6 prisoners They fear they will be held accountable on civil or criminal charges- or even street justice.
As a side piece to abuse being revealed by prison guards….Julie Kelly. has refuted stories of abuse by J6 protesters towards the Capitol Police. She has claimed the 4 officers who testified in front of the Select Committee committed perjury – their names —-> Daniel Hodges, Michael Fanone, Harry Dunn, Aquilino Gonell.
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Let’s say the Cult gets its wish. Will every person who was granted birthright citizenship have that citizenship automatically stripped of will they be allowed to keep it with only new babies being denied citizenship?
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Mississippi
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Colorado
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It is an issue worth fighting over.”
I agree.
Fight to continue to ensure any child born in America is an American citizen.
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And not only a citizen, but a citizen as “good” as a racist xenophobic scumbag as NYC.
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Jan, it isn’t a sure thing that the Court will look at the case. The Chief tries to avoid contentious cultural issues if he can. If all circuit courts that get a case rule the same way, the Court will only take the case if there’s enough support to overrule the lower courts. They’d also be likely to take the case if there is a split in the circuits.
I’d say odds are it doesn’t survive, but it is not a sure thing.
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Not Mississippi or Colorado
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With the Court currently composed of more originalist justices”
I hate to remind the xenophobes that “originalist” justices are more likely to uphold the 14th amendment than not.
I predict 9-0.
I won’t bet on 9-0 but I WILL bet SCOTUS does not change the current interpretation.
Any takers, the dogs at the York ASPCA are always hungry.
They thank Bitter for the $100 contribution.
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okay, here we go for round two of guesses. In a few moments I will post a second picture at the top of the thread with additional clues. Between the two, you should be able to identify.
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I forgot that maybe they don’t take the case, Chicon is correct (it happens, just like Blue Moons) that if all the circuit courts rule the same way they might not hear it. But I think the odds are at least 50/50 they will hear it, especially if they want to send a message on frivolous EOs.
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okay, open for second round guesses.
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Why would a child born overseas to an American be an American, but a child born in America to a citizen of another country, and not here legally, also be American?”
Because of a little thing called the Constitution that says that.
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Wisconsin
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Not Wisconsin
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New Richmond, WI
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North Carolina
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Free passers will Beotch soon.
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OMG. Trump just told the globalists at the World Economic Forum right to their faces that he froze foreign aid, is ending climate change policies/”Green New Deal,” withdrew from the Paris Climate Accord, ended the EV mandate and is rushing to get more fossil fuels. You know their blood is boiling.
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I will give everyone a second round of guesses, and if needed, I can post a third picture. I didn’t think this one would be as hard as Svalbard.
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Cairo, Ilinois
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Jason is the winner!
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https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1882462643925192847?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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https://abandonedonline.net/location/gem-theatre/
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That is how I found it
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I googled “abandoned GEM theater on 8t st”
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The first image posted shows Cairo spelled out right under the ‘rant’ of Restaurant. But admittedly, its hard to see, especially the Ca…so the second image shows part of the Cairo Chamber of Commerce sign, one of the few buildings in the downtown still standing.
Cairo, IL is one of the worst communities in America. It never should have been built due to the extreme flood risk. Its an insect and mold infested swamp. The old buildings are being abandoned and then collapsing as the population continues to dwindle.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/jR9qVjCjXKvwbrgC6
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that’s fair play jason, googling whatever you can from the image.
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Dammit, I was proud of cheating.
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Not cheating. For this game, anything in the image is fair play for googling or anything toward getting the answer. You still had to use logic and observation to realize that the theater was abandoned, and that there could only be so many abandoned GEM theaters that exist on an 8th street.
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Jason says…Because of a little thing called the Constitution that says that.
That’s the question the courts will answer for us. When the people who added “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” to being born here, did they mean that the children of illegal aliens are citizens are not?
Lawyers even smarter than Bitter have written on both sides of the issue. It’ll be interesting to watch.
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Zzzzzz Nobody at HHR has said they oppose those actions.
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Citizens or not…..
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I predicted this…
Of course what is missing here is that he should tell Putin he will arm Ukraine to the teeth if Putin refuses to play ball.
But it is a good start.
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That’s the question the courts will answer for us. When the people who added “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” to being born here, That’s the question the courts will answer for us. When the people who added “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” to being born here, did they mean that the children of illegal aliens are citizens are not?
No they didn’t mean that and they have so ruled since
They already answered that with 150 years of precedent.
I am betting that they will not change that.
Any takers?
Dogs are hungry.
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Has the Cult explained the process to strip citizenship from those granted it by birth?
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Pompeos security detail revoked.
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Jason, we covered that (Trump on the Russia/Ukraine war) yesterday. Bitter wasn’t impressed.
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Zzzzzz Nobody at HHR has said they oppose those actions.”
Actually, I support all of it except perhaps the foreign aid part. But if after review, which is legitimate, the US continues foreign aid where it is in its interest to do so, I don’t have a problem with a temporary freeze.
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TERROR: Biden removed the Houthis from the terror list, directed millions of dollars to Yemen, and allowed Iran to funding the group. Consequently, the Houthis reignited their attacks on commercial shipping and the US Navy. Trump has reinstated them on the terror list, cutting off their funding.
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let the beitching commence.
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Bitter wasn’t impressed.
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Bitter is less optimistic about how Trump will conduct this than I am.
As I have stated many times, Trump has no interest in seeing Ukraine annexed by Russia under his watch.
I think Trump will use the carrot stick approach to reach a deal including the prospect of more arms to Ukraine.
While I agree with Bitter that whatever it is will be bad for Ukraine and good for Russia, there are different degrees to that.
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Ok, so a couple visiting from Macchu Picchu region of Peru come to America on holiday. Wife goes into early labor, has child. Automatically an American, according to Jason and Bitterlaw, and supposedly, our Condtitution! Somehow, Couple says “No! Our child is Peruvian!”.
Another couple, convicts from Milan, Italy, escape from prison, stow away in a cargo ship, dock in NYC, and sneak off boat. Woman goes directly to hospital, gives birth to “Yes!”, an American citizen. They get put up at hotel in Times Square, food gets delivered by DoorDash, and they ring in the New Year in style!
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Has the Cult explained the process to strip citizenship from those granted it by birth?”
I believe the EO only covers from here on out, and even then does not take effect for another 30 days. But maybe I read that wrong.
There are about 300,000 births to illegals a year in the US. Since NYC declared “WE ARE WINNING” at least 10 years ago, that means at least 3 million more US citizens born to illegals.
The good part is they are as AMERICAN as racist xenophobe scumbag NYC.
I keep repeating that because I know it must eat at NYC, who deems himself a “first class citizen” while those that are born elsewhere and to illegals are “second class citizens”.
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Woman goes directly to hospital, gives birth to “Yes!”, an American citizen.”
Zzzz…
I already used the example myself.
If a woman climbs over the wall and has a baby 5 minutes later that baby is as AMERICAN as racist xenophobe scumbag NYC.
Why? Because the Constitution says so and the SC has so interpreted it for 150 years.
Deal with it.
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Jason says…”No they didn’t mean that and they have so ruled since
They already answered that with 150 years of precedent.”
Really? Do you have a cite for when the Supreme Court said the 14th Amendment applies to the children of illegal aliens whose mother illegally came across the border for the sole purpose of giving birth to an American child?
The Heller case was about whether the 2nd amendment covered you owning a gun to use for self-defense ( as opposed to part of a militia). Until 2008, that issue hadn’t been decided. “The Court ruled the Second Amendment to reference an individual right, holding:
The Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.[1]”
Similar job lies ahead for the Court on this issue.
As an aside, Bitter, was the Heller case an example of “using 5 Supreme Court Justices to get around the Constitution”?
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And BTW, I am proud to be the citizen of a country that recognizes that anyone born there, no matter under what circumstances, are American.
The fact is that many countries do NOT extend that right, and it one of the things that differentiates and is great about America.
I recognize that not everyone who disagrees is a racist xenophobe like NYC, but I think nothing is more un-American than denying citizenship to someone born here.
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Many cases are used by Democrats to try and get around the Constitution. Why do they keep passing laws that clearly violate the 2nd Amendment? To hope 5 justices will toss more than 2 centuries of precedent and gut the Amendment. I am surprised the Cult wants to follow that script.
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Really? Do you have a cite for when the Supreme Court said the 14th Amendment applies to the children of illegal aliens whose mother illegally came across the border for the sole purpose of giving birth to an American child?”
Zzzzz… do you have a cite to the contrary?
I do.
The SC has ruled specifically in the Wong Kim Ark case that children of illegals born in the US are citizens.
The xenophobes will point out that his parents were “residents”, but the ruling did not state that was the reason for the decision, so it was not material to the case.
But hey, I am taking bets that this EO will not stand.
If you think you have a strong case to the contrary, pony up.
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Jason, yours is certainly a reasonable position. I also think it’s a reasonable position to say that illegal immigrants coming here for that purpose only shouldn’t have automatic citizenship bestowed on their child. Imo, that’s an incentive to break the law.
If the courts rule the 14th doesn’t cover this, Congress still could if that’s what the people want.
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Another couple, convicts from Milan, Italy, escape from prison, stow away in a cargo ship, dock in NYC, and sneak off boat. Woman goes directly to hospital, gives birth to “Yes!”, an American citizen.”
So exactly, forgetting what the Constitution says, is YOUR objection to this child, born in the USA, not being a citizen?
Seems the parents put a lot more effort into making this child a citizen than yours did.
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I also think it’s a reasonable position to say that illegal immigrants coming here for that purpose only shouldn’t have automatic citizenship bestowed on their child. Imo, that’s an incentive to break the law.”
Sorry, it is not reasonable at all, because what you say is unconstitutional. In my book, unconstitutional moots “reasonable”.
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There could be a lot of things that are constitutional that could be an “incentive to break the law”
The fact we have a right to bear arms could be used by some as an incentive to break the law, they could buy a weapon for that purpose.
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In the Wong case….”the Chinese Exclusion Act, a law banning virtually all Chinese immigration and prohibiting Chinese immigrants from becoming naturalized U.S. citizens.”
The parents were not allowed to become citizens, but were not here illegally.
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Jason says….what you say is unconstitutional.
Will it be unconstitutional if the Supreme Court rules the EO does not violate the 14th Amendment?
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And let’s be honest, you don’t want only to restrict people who flew in as stowaways or crossed the border just to have a baby. That is a very small amount of all births to illegals in the US, l bet over 95% of them occurred with women who got pregnant AFTER they crossed the border, not before.
So admit that you want to deny birthright to ALL children of illegals, not just those that somehow only crossed over to have a baby.
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From the date of Roe v. Wade until the Dobbs case, was abortion in the 1st trimester constitutionally protected?
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The parents were not allowed to become citizens, but were not here illegally.”
Yep, but the decision was not predicate on that. In other words, whether they were here illegally or not was not relevant to the decision. What mattered was that the child was born in the US.
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Jason, today has been a reasonable discussion of the topic. Why ruin it by saying what you imagine I mean rather than what I actually post?
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Will it be unconstitutional if the Supreme Court rules the EO does not violate the 14th Amendment?
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In my view, yes.
I think the only way to change the 14th Amendment is through an amendment to it.
I don’t agree with all SC decisions, I never thought there was a constitutional right to abortion.
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Why ruin it by saying what you imagine I mean rather than what I actually post?”
What did I say was not accurate?
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So admit that you want to deny birthright to ALL children of illegals, not just those that somehow only crossed over to have a baby.”
You deny this is your position?
Because that is 95%+ of the births.
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Jason says…the decision was not predicate on that.
Sure it was, because those were the facts in front of the Court. The Court does not need to overrule Wong Kim Ark to rule the EO is unconstitutional; it can be easily distinguished (that’s some legal lingo for Bitter).
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Constitutional….
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On the policy, I’m on the fence with the Wong Kim Ark type case. Illegal aliens who have been here for awhile and have established a life here have a better case than the anchor baby type situation. OTOH, if the parents hadn’t broken the law to be here, the kid wouldn’t have been born here. I wouldn’t be worked up if Congress chose either way.
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Did Chi go to Google Law School with lisab?
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Sure it was, because those were the facts in front of the Court. The Court does not need to overrule Wong Kim Ark to rule the EO is unconstitutional; it can be easily distinguished”
Zzzz… convoluted logic.
The court specifically failed to consider whether the parents were here legally or not, because they deemed it irrelevant under the 14th Amendment. It had no part of the decision. The decision was solely based on whether children of non-citizens born in America were citizens. The decision does not mention their “legality” as a reason, because it wasn’t.
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Illegal aliens who have been here for awhile and have established a life here have a better case than the anchor baby type situation”
Zzzzzz….
Under the constitution, there IS no “better” case.
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Jason, today has been a reasonable discussion of the topic”
Maybe in your mind. In my view there is nothing “reasonable” about your interpretation of the Constitution.
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Cash Cow hardest hit.
Elephants are not people. Could cows be next?
“An animal rights group had sought to have the African elephants, Missy, Kimba, Lucky, LouLou and Jambo, freed from Cheyenne Mountain Zoo and moved to an elephant sanctuary, citing a legal process known as “habeas corpus” that allows individuals in custody to challenge their detention or incarceration in court.
The Colorado Supreme Court ruled 6-0 in favor of an earlier district court decision, saying that from a legal standpoint, the question “boils down to whether an elephant is a person.”
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Jason sez…In my view there is nothing “reasonable” about your interpretation of the Constitution.
The reasonable referred to the discussion, not the quality of the positions.
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Can we split the (anchor) baby?
No retroactive stripping of citizenship (barring some serious crimina activity that would otherwise warrant it), and clamping down on to whom we bestow the gift of US citizenship in the future (to be determined by legislation signed into law, not judicial fiat). I am an Hispanic man whose mother came from South America, so I am hardly xenophobic. But I also feel that US citizenship is more than a cheap commodity that can be easily handed out simply based on where and when a baby happened to pop out into the world.
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