Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
 | GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
| GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
143 responses to “Keep arguing amongst yourselves.”
NYC v. Jason last night….NYC was ahead on points; then Jason was unable to come out his corner after being exposed for lying about his opponent’s position. Again. The ol’ “I know what you really mean” trick.
Final outcome = TKO.
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Bernie Sanders voted against one of Biden’s cabinet nominees. Other than that, not one Dem voted against any nominee (a few were not present for the vote). I’ll leave it to Jason to argue that all of Joe’s nominees were qualified.
The Republicans? They are virtue signaling ahead of time – gotta make sure they can get into all the Kool Kidz parties. Aside from Jason and Bitter, Trump voters want a Republican who fights the other side.
Sue me.
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The war mongered moustache needs a civics lesson. The president has the power to issue pardons. You may not like it, but it’s a constitutional duty.
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1863775631395131798?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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More on Harris campaign:
https://conservativebrief.com/campaign-staff-87666/
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I see Chicon has decided to be the new Tgca of HHR.
Chicon longs for the return of Wissing and the HHR he incorrectly recalls. He forgets that the inmates drove Wissing away from his own site.
Chicon’s contempt is a badge of honor because it makes no sense. He accuses me of not being a conservative even though I saved and pay for a conservative blog. He says I have TDS despite giving Trump my vote 3 times.
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Bitter, HHR is a tough place that’s not for everyone; a place where there’s no free lunch.
Accept that or change it.if you want a different tone here, look in the mirror and take the lead. If you want a place where only certain views are welcome (your posts certainly indicate this is so), man up and admit it.
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The sad news for Chicon is I am not leaving. Of course, Vic and DW can lock me out if they want to turn the site over to Chicon.
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Don’t worry, Bitter; while I’m enjoying the no free lunch battles over nothing that you and Jason desire so much, I don’t think many of the others here do. I’ll tire of it eventually and go on an extended HHR vacation and you can go on treating others the way you would never do in real life (Jason likely would, though).
Not today, though.
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You don’t have to leave. Disagree all you want but stop with the lies that I am not a conservative. I also can’t afford to join a country club so that nonsense makes no sense.
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Bitter, don’t you say that Trump supporters are not conservatives? If so, I’d ask you to give me and others the same courtesy.
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It isnt even 10am, and Bitter is playing the victim. As sheriff here, why dont YOU stop the lies, mischaracterizations and bullying when these are done by anyone instead of only posting about it when it goes against your outdated views of what being a GOPer is today?
NeoCons are NOT conservative to today’s conservative movement, anymore than Scoop Jackson, LBJ or Harry Truman would be considered liberal by today’s liberals. They could be DEMS though.
NeoCons are as important to the GOP as a bicycle is to a fish, to paraphrase Gloria Steinem. You, the Bushes, Cheneys, Romneys, Ryans are not part of the future of the party and are only considered republican out of habit or tradition.
Why not make HHR a place where respectful discourse happens among all posters? Requires an Alpha male to do that, step up and claim your balls, brother.
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Discuss…
FIRST,
Should President Washington have sent 13,000 troops to western PA to put down the Whiskey Rebellion during his presidency and thereby ensure federal supremacy on tax on whiskey?
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SECOND,
Should Washington have issued a pardon to many of those who were participating in the Whiskey Rebellion?
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THIRD,
Was it the right thing to do when the president issued a pardon to Jeff Davis after the Civil War?
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DISCUSS…
Doesn’t Biden’s statement regarding the pardoning of his son Hunter give lots of credence to Trump and Trump supporters who say the justice system (DOJ, FBI) is unfair because it is politically charged and motivated?
How will this statement of Joe Biden change how the D party speaks and acts toward the justice system? Or will it not change how the Ds act, speak and think?
How will the pardoning of Hunter Biden by Joe change the public attitude toward pardoning the J6 people who sent to prison and were locked up? Will this move public acceptance of pardoning most of the J6ers–those who did NOT attack policemen, destroy property?
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Good morning, Walt. Thanks for the change of subject.
1. Absolutely. This sanctuary city junk bears a resemblance, imo.
2. Yes, as long as the message was accepted by the guilty and everyone else that states don’t get to pick and choose which federal laws to obey.
3. Yes, same answer as in #2.
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The cult members are beholden only to Trump, not conservatism.
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So you decide who is a conservative and a Republican? I must have missed the election to install you.
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First – Yes. Send the troops.
Second – Some pardons? Sure. Not for the ringleaders.
Third – No. Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee should have been hanged as traitors.
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Walt, Biden calling the DOJ prosecution of his son political SHOULD help everyone tolerate the bleaching of the FBI & DOJ. Same about the J6 defendants. I’ll add in the grandmother sitting in jail for demonstrating outside an abortion clinic.
The MSM and Dems will go the “that’s different” route.
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According to the GOP platform, which decides what the GOP is and stands for, the GOP is not a neo-Con party but, in your parlance, a CULT PARTY. The GOP is a MAGA party now.
And the American voters rejected the Harris-Walz-Cheney-Kristol-Bitterlaw political worldview. I find your views as relevant as corsets.
Your fight isnt with me or others who would enjoy civil discourse here. Rather, it is with how you perceive yourself, poor victimized, morally superior, truly conservative fighting the poor unwashed MAGA cult members.
FACTS.
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Bitter said…So you decide who is a conservative and a Republican?
Apparently Bitter is empowered to decide who is conservative, since he also said this “The cult members are beholden only to Trump, not conservatism.”
Since you cannot agree to the same courtesy you desire, you’ll still be eligible to be called a non-conservative.
No free lunch, remember.
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NYC v. Jason last night….NYC was ahead on points”
So the compulsive liars agree with each other?
Quelle surprise!
It is akin to Goebbels agreeing with Hitler.
I would have been offended if Chicon has agreed with me, that would have been a stench hard to overcome.
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Oahodges sez…”it is with how you perceive yourself, poor victimized, morally superior, truly conservative fighting the poor unwashed MAGA cult members.”
Sounds like Liz and Adam. And Robbie. I’ll let Jason and Bitter decide if they’re in that group.
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The cult members are beholden only to Trump, not conservatism.”
Bitter, the Cult members now admit they are cult members.
So that is a big plus.
It will be harder to convince them that Trump is and never was a conservative, but who knows, sometimes facts prevail (unlikely with Cults).
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Zzzzzzzz Why would I cast my vote for Trump 3 times if I did not want him to win? Not all MAGA voters are in a cult. All cult members are MAGA.
I know you want to believe you are part of something great when you are really just insecure. Trump could not win with just the OAs. He needed the Bitterlaws, too.
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Jason said….”I would have been offended if Chicon has agreed with me, that would have been a stench hard to overcome.”
Glad to help. I could sense you getting a bit twitchy after we agreed a few times lately; I hope this calms you, as I am here to help.
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Jason’s most recent lie…Cult members now admit they are cult members.
Said by nobody at HHR.
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I’ll leave it to Jason to argue that all of Joe’s nominees were qualified.”
Wait.
What is this moronic argument?
It seems to be that if some R senators voted for unqualified Biden picks now ALL R senators MUSt voted for ANY Trump unqualified picks?
Is that it?
Heck of an argument there, but considering the source……
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Well, Walt, you tried. Thanks.
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You went from claiming MAGA supporters are not conservative nor GOP but are cult members, and then proceeded to inflate the importance of neo-Cons to Trump’s victory.
Glad you voted for MAGA as it was in the best interest of this country. But the neo-Cons were inconsequential to his victory, as the Cheneys, Romneys, etc. all showed us. The neo coalition of CONSERVATIVE Black men, libertarian Bro-voters and those you deride as Putinistas and isolationists more than replace you. Haley’s failed attempt to win the nomination with the backing of all of the Cheneys, Bitters and ilk should have made that clear to you.
Reality check time, friend.
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I could sense you getting a bit twitchy after we agreed a few times lately; I hope this calms you, as I am here to help.”
Thanks.
I got traumatized when Vic suggested we “agree 85% of the time”.
I am glad that is not true.
“bit twitchy”
Used to hear that in meetings with Brits, hadn’t heard it in awhile. They use it quite often. Good expression.
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But the neo-Cons were inconsequential to his victory,”
Zzzzz….
You probably are too ignorant to even understand what “neo-con” means, did you pick that up at whatever cesspool garbage site you regurgitate talking points from. The far left LOVES that expression too, maybe you got it. DKOS.
In any case, I don’t know a single person that defines himself or herself as a “neo-con” and no pollster ever published that as a demographic of any kind. It is just a work cult members throw out because they think it insults non-cult members. The problem is there is there is no “neo-con” demographic, never was.
If the point is that hardcore MAGA voters are a majority, that too is false. Trump had a higher unfavorable rating than even Kamala Harris. He won not because of MAGA voters, a small demographic compared to the general electorate, because he attracted a lot of non-MAGA people who were willing to overlook his negatives in the hope of better economic outcomes.
The idea that Cult members are a majority of the electorate is ridiculous. The ARE a majority of R primary voters, granted.
Take a poll. Ask how many Americans identify as “MAGA”. I bet it is less than 30% probably closer to 20%.
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Jason said…I don’t know a single person that defines himself or herself as a “neo-con” and no pollster ever published that as a demographic of any kind.
In that case it is nearly impossible for this almost non-existent group to be consequential.
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I interrupt this silly argument with real news….South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol declared emergency martial law Tuesday, accusing the opposition party of plotting “insurgency” and “trying to overthrow the free democracy.”
Will this be a dry run for Harris?
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You went from claiming MAGA supporters are not conservative”
Well, I believe most here agree Trump is not a conservative, so you start out by not having a conservative “leader”.
But I am willing to admit that what constitutes a “conservative” can evolve.
When I joined the R party, and the reason why I worked hard to elect Rs in TX for many years and in PA for a few. was because I saw it as the party of free markets, free enterprise, free trade, limited government, pro-business, personal responsibility and a defender of a strong military (peace through strength) and willingness to defend our interests wherever they existed around the world. If this is being a “neo-con”, fine with me.
The R party of today, at least the majority of primary voters and much of the elected class, is in my view not conservative but populist. There is no interest in the conservative principles I listed above, nobody can really say what the R party stands for today.
I have never claimed my views are currently a majority in the party, so much so that I left the party never to return.
I voted for Trump because he was the non-socialist option. I think his election will delay the inevitable turn to socialism by some years, maybe enough so I can die first.
But anyone who thinks this election meant this is now “MAGA country” is an idiot. Kamala Harris, a hardcore Marxist who is on record as a supporter of the Green New Deal (would destroy the economy), ban on fossil fuels and fracking (would destroy the economy), end the filibuster(would install a one party state if Dems had the majority), end to any type of voting laws, open borders and citizenship for 20 million illegals, transgender surgeries for illegals and criminals, etc. got 49% of the vote and only lost the “blue wall” but a couple points in each state.
This is not a “MAGA country”. And if you over reach pretending that it is, you will find yourself back in the wilderness sooner than expected.
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Sounds like a Democrat heaven…
“The first decree by General Park An-su, chief of staff of the Republic of Korea Army and appointed martial law commander, bans political meetings, strikes, and demonstrations. It places the media under government control, suspends the need for arrest warrants, and subjects civilians to military law.”
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In that case it is nearly impossible for this almost non-existent group to be consequential.
Yes, non-existent groups are not consequential.
Glad you agree it was an idiotic point for Albertus Idioticus to make.
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“The R party of today, at least the majority of primary voters”
You mean, the R party of today, at least the overwhelming VAST majority of primary voters”..
FIXED it for you.
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Jason says…non-existent groups are not consequential.
I believe he said neo-cons were non-consequential, and you agreed with him.
Four Hail Mary’s and seven Our Fathers will clear up that rash…..
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I think (not sure, though) Trump got in the upper 90’s of Registered Republicans. It appears he was conservative enough.
But Bitter apparently owns the right to bestow that label….
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I believe he said neo-cons were non-consequential, and you agreed with him.”
I agreed that a non-existent group was non-consequential.
Of course, I think anyone who posts that is an imbecile.
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It appears he was conservative enough.”
Conservative enough….
LOL
Of course, after I made the point the majority of the R electorate is not really conservative, I guess “conservative enough” is a valid description.
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This is not ‘MAGA country’. Agree. But on the other hand the RCP map of counties won by R’s is about 85% of the US. Maybe more. And as mentioned….deportation of illegals especially criminals, transgender surgeries for illegals…are issues most Americans side with R’s. The R’s need to continue prioritize signing up more voters and use early voting to their advantage. I’m seeing the glass half full at this time.
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Fair enough.
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But on the other hand the RCP map of counties won by R’s is about 85% of the US.”
Yes, but many of the red parts are sparsely populated.
Chris Hayes at MSNBC is a certified Marxist tool. But he did say something that was correct. He said we are a divided country and the last 3 elections were decided by just a small swing of like 3% of the voters. He said 47% is the base of support for either party and the election is decided by that 6% that is left.
I can’t argue with that analysis.
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Zzzzzzzzzz
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No thoughts on South Korea?
I did not have them on my military coup bingo card.
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“transgender surgeries for illegals” … and much worse is the fact that the radical left is coming after YOUR children to poison their minds, and brainwash them into thinking a boy can be made into a girl, and then rush them into surgery where they will be permanently sterilized, never have children, never function sexually, and be on a pathway to suicide.
Youngkin won the Virginia Governor’s race in 2021 because the leftists covered up sexual assault in a public school.
Many more races will be won if the electorate became more aware of the left’s plan to destroy the genitals of your children.
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it is stupid to argue about degrees of something, and to make giant and wrong leaps about someone based upon how you interpret someone else’s statement.
The R party contains a whole spectrum of people with varying degrees of conservatism. And thise views of an individual slide up and down the spectrum based on the issue.
Reagan conservatives of the 1980s are different from the current swath of hard core MAGA Trump conservatives.
As a person and in philosophy, Lots of very major differences between Reagan and Trump…starting with likeability as a person.
and Reagan was willing to sit with D Tip ONeil and together get things done, while Trump wants no part of any D or any R who has a different view on this or that issue and considers all enemies.
Reagan understood the legislative process and the behind the scenes things that have to go on better than Trump does.
Also, the D party is VERY different now as compared to what it was 50 years ago. Wonder how Reagan would do things if he were president today…and how his method of operation might be different…
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The red/blue map by country is eye-opening. It drives home that the divide is urban v. rural (with a few exceptions).
The 2028 candidate will have an interesting task trying to forge a coalition to win. As we’ve seen here in the last few days, it won’t be easy.
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Walt sez…”the D party is VERY different now as compared to what it was 50 years ago. Wonder how Reagan would do things if he were president today…and how his method of operation might be different…”
Excellent point, Walt. The left today hates America as is, whereas in the 80’s the debate was about how to make a great country even better. Dems wanted more social protection and R’s greater defense spending. Plenty of space to compromise. How do you compromise with someone whose starting point is that you and your country are evil?
We’ll see if Trump wants to make deals with Dems. Some here think he is one. I believe he’d want deals on tax and the border. Trump is going to fix the border because he doesn’t need new laws to do so. Dems will want some credit, too, so perhaps legislation is possible.
I predict Trump will do deals with the Dems, unless they go the full resistance route like last time. We’ll see.
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Speaking of seven Our Fathers and four Hail Mary’s….
I have a question for Jason, and…God help me….I do value his political analysis.
Trump increased his percentage in every county in the US, and among (almost?) all demographics. Does the breadth of the result indicate something positive for the 2028 candidate? Will that make it easier to hold a coalition than had Trump won by getting a huge swing in a demographic group, for example.
Not a trick question, looking for opinion.
Can anyone direct me to the nearest vomitorium?
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That’s a great question. The broadness of Trump’s victory, and the fact that he gained in every county in the country certainly means he increased his base of followers, but you’re right to ask if that is going to carry over to 2028.
One place to look is at the Senate and House races. There stands a good chance that the House remains exactly where it was, with neither side gaining, and in the Senate, obviously the R’s made gains, but each and every Senator in swing states, including Florida and Texas, trailed Trump’s vote totals. Given that, there is no simple answer to your question.
Obviously the next two years will give us some insight. Does Trump accomplish what he has set out in his plans, does the overall economy improve, etc
These questions will determine just how much of the coalition remains in 2028. There will need to be a dynamic leader to help hold it together, and a good economy.
I believe if the economy can recover, illegal immigration is stemmed and there are deportations of at least those with criminal records, as well as peace, then the next leader may have a chance to hold the coalition together.
But, the fact that other candidates, some of them very good ones, trailed Trump means that the coalition is fragile at best, and we need to pay attention to any signs of splintering.
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The GOP is at a huge disadvantage, given the 24/7 indoctrination going on via the news media, and the huge percentage of colleges and universities indoctrinating 18-22 year olds that America is evil, communism is great, and freedom is overrated.
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DW – you are correct, though traditionally younger people have been liberal and gradually shift to conservatism as they age. Though, given the hard core indoctrination, as you point out, it may take longer, if ever now. Just look at some of these “teachers” they have in school. They are not teachers, they are advocates.
Hopefully the old adage remains valid, “if you aren’t a Liberal at 21, you have no heart, and if you aren’t a conservative at 40 you have no brain.”
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From what I read about Gen Z is that they hate to be lied to. So once they discover that their liberal teachers lied to them, they can become disillusioned pretty quickly. Of course its complicated when the media preaches 24/7 that the GOP is lying all the time. But they would rather have someone with a long history of personal problems that have not been hidden (Trump), than someone who obviously has such problems and decides to try and hide it or deny it.
Its why my guess is that the Hunter Biden pardon won’t play well with Gen Z.
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Vic sez…the coalition is fragile at best, and we need to pay attention to any signs of splintering.
Or, perhaps, a different coalition will need to form.
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On the Utes, I’d add that many in the 18-25 range had some important high school and college experiences ruined by the Covid idiocy. And now they know it was based on lies. They voted more R than is typical, and they won’t become more trusting of submitting as they age.
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“Trump increased his percentage in every county in the US, and among (almost?) all demographics. Does the breadth of the result indicate something positive for the 2028 candidate?”
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I think it is easy to read the cards wrong and make the same mistake Trump makes…thinking that all the votes he got (more than last time) means that the people who voted Trump like Trump and support all his ideas. But a BIG number of people that put a check by Trump on the ballot were people who did not necessarily love Trump and all he is, but instead were people who SAW that the D candidate Kamala was so bad and were voting AGAINST her and the Dems rather than a carte blanche vote FOR Trump. They saw him perhaps as the lesser of two evils. And the Dems under Biden had clearly run the country into the ditch.
I know a lot of good conservative Rs who told me they were not enamored with Trump, but it was a binary choice and the other choice (Kamala) was TERRIBLE.
This is my opinion.
We definitely are in a time period in the country where politics is more populist in tone rather than pragmatic or driven by core principles–at least on the R side. On the D side, they ARE driven by wrongheaded and failed principle but that does not seem to stop them from doubling down on the crazy path they have been following for the last bunch of years.
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”Reagan was willing to sit with D Tip ONeil and together get things done, while Trump wants no part of any D or any R who has a different view on this or that issue and considers all enemies.
Reagan understood the legislative process and the behind the scenes things that have to go on better than Trump does.”
Trump seems to be working with Congress more now than in his last term. He’s making calls, getting members on board with his appointments. All three leaders in the upcoming Senate session want to support Trump’s ambitious agenda, vowing to extend weekday hours in order to do so. The usual naysayer, Senator Collins, says she will vote for his FBI Director, Kash Patel. Even Trump’s terse threat to Iran/Hamas to free the prisoners before 1/20/2025, was called Reaganesque last night by two Red Eye Radio conservative commentators. Given the societal, cultural differences today, our many domestic/foreign issues, the tremendous and devious obstructions Dems construct against a popular opponent, I think Reagan would find it a much more toxic political climate to work in today than back in the 1980’s. Also, Schumer is not someone Reagan would likely want to share a drink with, like he was with another Irishman, Tip ONeil.
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Walt, I know lots of people like you who voted for Trump despite not liking him, and despite the views of some of his followers. They are my family and friends, and I’ve lived in that political vein my whole life.
I spend much of the year in Central WI, pretty close where your son lives. I also spend time in SW Florida. In both places I run into people (often in bars) of all shapes, sizes and income brackets, and an outsized number of them see no difference between R’s and D’s – they don’t think any of them damn politicians have their back. They think Trump does.
Despite being born and raised among the 1st group above, I’ve come to respect the point of view of the 2nd, which has made me unpopular with a few here. So be it; they deserve to have their political needs met, same as me. And the elitism directed at them is counterproductive, imo. It reminds me of a great line by Norm in Cheers….women, can’t live with ’em, pass the beer nuts….
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I believe Reagan would succeed in any in era in American politics because he had strong beliefs and knew how to work with even difficult politicians and the media.
Was that concise and nice enough for you, Chicon?
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Yep, good job, Bitter.
I agree, although I think he’d have more trouble getting Dems to join in today. But, he’d certainly be able to do that better than Trump.
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I must have really stunned Jason with my comment/question to him. Hopefully he will recover enough to respond.
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On the 2028 coalition….is it possible that the realignment along socio-economic class lines continues, resulting in inner-city and rural voters aligning against the Kool Kidz?
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There is no way that Reagan would support getting us into WWIII today when American interests are no at risk.
And he would be the first one to support Fair Trade, given how the globalists and big businesses have sold out American working men.
He loved America. NeoCons love war and cheap imports.
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American interests are at risk with an expansionist Russia. Respectfully.
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There is a huge contingency of youth – especially young men – who find today’s Republican ticket relatable, appealing, encouraging They like the tenacity to overcome issues and setbacks that were demonstrated by both men at the top of the ticket, as well as their strong voices challenging the progressive left. It was the baby boomers and single, professional women who made up some of the biggest blocks of anti-Trump voters – the former because they mostly had already secured their future, and the latter for abortion reasons. As for the bulk of young adults, middle class families and workers, a growing consortium of minorities they found the 2024 ticket inspiring, pragmatic in their discussion about the top issues facing America, and down to earth when they barnstormed around the country.
We’re now in the phase of having the Trump administration putting a cabinet together who will work to create a better functioning government. I’m planning on giving them the benefit of time to see what they can do, and what can be accomplished, rather than keep measuring their worthiness by the amplification of character flaws in their past.
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I find it interesting that so many want to compare Trump favorably to Reagan when Trump listed Bill Clinton the greatest President in his lifetime.
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I disagree but respect your opinion.
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Bitter you are the one who fits the definition of a cultist, in how you have no doubts how a man would politically function in an entirely different era. You would rather look back and unconditionally worship a former leader, than look forward and give a current leader a chance to prove himself before casting aspirations.
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OA – I am not sure I know of anyone who supports us getting into WWIII. If you know them, can you share who they are?
As for “Fair Trade” I disagree. Reagan was a dedicated free market conservative. I not believe he would be in support of tariffs.
You keep using the words “Neo-Con” “Globalists” etc but I would appreciate it if you would define what those words mean to you. Reagan was adept at foreign relations and international policy, and his mantra was peace through strength. He was not afraid to send American soldiers into situations where American interests, or innocent people, were in jeopardy.
As well, he knew that we don’t live in a vacuum. This is a global world where old barriers to communication have been replaced by instant contact globally within milliseconds. He knew what happens thousands of miles away has a direct effect on the US. Does that mean he would stand for UN law circumventing US law, or giving up our sovereignty (in any way shape or form) to an international body, HELL NO. And we don’t stand for that today either.
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Bitter, I don’t understand the need to compare Trump and Reagan positively or negatively. Different leaders at different times – choosing between them was never required.
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Contrary to Chicon, who I suspect is a blood sucking parasite, I do work.
I will look for the question.
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Chuck Todd analyzes Biden:
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Why does Trump need more than my vote to satisfy you? I hope he succeeds again as President. Do I have to dinner with him or wear a MAGA hat, too?
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Vic, here’s a couple articles on Reagan and tariffs. I get that some here have an emotional reaction about Reagan (my favorite President by miles, btw), but he did impose several tariffs.
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https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-03-28-mn-698-story.html
https://money.cnn.com/2016/07/27/news/economy/donald-trump-ronald-reagan-trade-japan/index.html
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Thanks Chicon. I will read both of those today. I do know that he used tariffs, but not in the way that I think Trump is threatening.
Now, I would like to go on record that I do believe he is “threatening” tariffs to get better trade deals. He does have a track record we can look at, and I don’t believe he actually imposed that many during term one, so I don’t really get as triggered when I hear the word bandied about.
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Jason sez…Contrary to Chicon, who I suspect is a blood sucking parasite, I do work.
Despite the unwarranted personal attack by Jason, I still am interested in his take….
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Because Trump’s most vocal and adamant supporters try to compare Trump favorably to Reagan to bolster his reputation.
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Vic, the Reagan tariffs were not very big (one was retaliatory against Japan for dumping chips).
I’m not too concerned about the tariffs either way, too. Just wanted to point out that Reagan also did it in an effort to support an American industry.
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Bitter sez….Because Trump’s most vocal and adamant supporters try to compare Trump favorably to Reagan to bolster his reputation.
So what?
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Goober is disturbed by Hegseth. This useless R has ro publicize this? Can’t he just talk to him, or trump?
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Goober based this on “media accounts”. lol, more reason why he should talk to Hegseth directly and trump. Not blurt out diarrehea.
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Also, Jason often compares others here with Nazi propaganda people in an effort to diminish our reputations. Doing so has no effect, just like positively comparing Trump to Reagan does nothing to impact Reagan’s.
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jason, when one is a Dem, who loses Chuck Todd….
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On Tuesday, Florida’s Miami-Dade County Commission approved the city of Hialeah’s request for county recognition of its tribute to President Trump with a street named in his honor, allowing the city to hang the street signs on county property.
The city successfully named the street “Donald J. Trump Avenue” last year, and now the county has officially recognized it.
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I have a question for Jason, and…God help me….I do value his political analysis.
Trump increased his percentage in every county in the US, and among (almost?) all demographics. Does the breadth of the result indicate something positive for the 2028 candidate? Will that make it easier to hold a coalition than had Trump won by getting a huge swing in a demographic group, for example.”
This is a good question, sue me.
There are some trends we are seeing that I don’t think are candidate specific and those should continue. The trend toward Republicans by Latino men, black men, Asians and non-college whites is continuing, I don’t really think the Dems can reverse it with the only tool they have available, the promise of more handouts. That worked for decades but the appeal has worn off. On the other hand, the trend towards Dems by educated affluent, especially white educated women, will also continue. The good news for Rs is that the demographics they are appealing to are more numerous than the ones the Dems are gaining with.
On paper, that bodes well for Rs, but the caveat is can these advantages overcome any negatives towards the incumbent party, which Rs will be in 2028. Will Vance be the “Kamala” of 2028 if Trump has low popularity.
Like Walt above, I believe a lot of Trump’s “breadth of victory” derives from the binary choice voters were presented with. There are a lot of people here who think Trump is a lot more popular than he really is. The reality is he is just a few points more popular than his average over the last 9 years, but that is a low bar.
Now my favorite topic, ideology. There is a huge ideological shift going on. Two examples: You can go to DKos right now and they have threads of “Russians being blown up” with videos of Ukrainian drones killing Russian by the hundreds. This is a site for far left Marxist kooks. 20 years ago, they were all about peace and love and how the Rs were bloodthirsty warmongers. The Bushes and the Cheneys were war criminals in the pocket of Haliburton. The military needed to be defunded, we should close bases overseas. NATO was bad, military alliances were for warmongers. The military industrial complex was to blame for all ills. Sound familiar? Yeah, you hear that here at HHR, “endless wars” and “military industrial complex” and how countering Russia aggression is “warmongering”.
The AFL-CIO agenda based on tariffs and protectionism and trade wars of the last 70 years is now the banner of Rs running for office, led by Trump. Rs, who used to be the ones advocating for free markets and free trade, are now steeped in the protectionist agenda.
So these shifts “muddy the waters” so to speak. I suspect a less radical Dem party could get some voters back, but that is unlikely because of the nature of the Dem primary voter.
Put a gun to my head and I say the Rs are the favorites for 2028 IF they can run a competent administration. I would be more positive if I knew RDS was the candidate for 2028, but like the Dems, the composition of the R primary voter favors Vance.
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Tina, Reagan had the 11th commandment. His acolytes here have decided it does not apply to Trump and his nominees. They support the resistance.
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Doing so has no effect, just like positively comparing Trump to Reagan does nothing to impact Reagan’s.”
I disagree. Comparing Trump to Reagan does indeed tarnish Reagan’s reputation.
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More Drat senators have denounced demented for the pardon than the Rinos. The Rinos are useless.
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Jason, thanks for the response.
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Remeber all of these media politicians/deep state tools like goober are “always” fooled by “media accounts.” Goober has ways to speak directly to Hegseth and trump without stupidly talking to the press
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Also, Jason often compares others here with Nazi propaganda people in an effort to diminish our reputations”
What reputations? Your posts diminish your reputations, not me.
Plus, the analogy is correct. When you repeat lies over and over in the hope that makes them true, you are using the type of propaganda that Goebbels used.
That is not calling anyone a Nazi, it refers to the similar propaganda strategy.
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Trumps nominees for his cabinet are qualified. The Rs bent over (literally and figuratively) for demented’s picks. Each one is qualified.
In contrast, dementeds picks, such as the commerce secretary; hss secretary, and buttplug were not qualified for their positions.
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Chicon called me a “Reagan acolyte”.
I think he meant it as a smear.
Far from it, I would wear the Reagan acolyte badge with pride.
Best President of my lifetime, a real Republican and a visionary conservative.
Guilty as charged.
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The Rinos are useless.”
WIll the last non-RINO turn off the lights before he/she becomes a RINO?
Thanks
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Tina is borrowing from NYC”s nonsense.
The Senate has zero obligation to rubber stamp any of Trump’s picks.
None. Nada. Zilch.
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Embarrassing
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/president-angola-jerks-bidens-arm-guide-him-during/
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“Tina, Reagan had the 11th commandment. His acolytes here have decided it does not apply to Trump and his nominees.”
Wait.
Is Chicon saying Trump respects and adheres to the 11th Amendment? Really? Wow.
Damm, talk about alternate universe!
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I thought the Gateway Pundit had gone bankrupt.
Hope springs eternal.
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The Maine Chicklet looks like she is open to supporting Patel.
Biden’s Beotch won’t. He has to protect the deep state assets.
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Did Reagan violate the 11th commandment in 1976?
Absolutely.
Is it a good goal for R’s to stick together?
Absolutely.
I guess not to Jason and Bitter.
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They are mad at Patel because he drafted the Nunes memo during the Russian hoax. The memo was accurate. Schiffty drafted an alternate memo, which was not accurate.
Tell me how a doj trial attorney; senior counsel on counter terrorism for the house intelligence committee, aid to Nunes, senior counsel to the house reform committee; staffer for President Donald Trump‘s National Security Council (NSC), working in the International Organizations and Alliances directorate; Senior Director of the Counterterrorism Directorate; and Principal Deputy for ODNi ,is not qualified for fib director?
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Tina, he is qualified, even the former Republican Jason agrees. The problem is that Kash thinks the joint needs major surgery, so the 11th commandment is toast.
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I think it’s interesting that we are getting hung up over Trump’s nominees and what is being said. I believe that most, if not all, of the current nominees will get confirmed. Unfortunately, the only ones that get press, or we argue about, are the one or two that won’t get confirmed, or that were put out there as sacrificial lambs in order to get others confirmed.
Folks, this happened EVERY FOUR YEARS! There is nothing new about Senators from your party making hay about a nominee, it’s mostly to give them cover for voting for the most controversial by saying, “well, after meeting Mr. or MS XYZ, they convinced me of A, B and C.” It happens, has happened, and will happen again.
The Senate is there to “Advise and Consent”…and therefore it is their duty to do such. They do not need to rubber stamp every appointee BUT they do have the charge to not confirm grossly incompetent or unqualified people.
Trump has the right to nominate who he wants. The Senate has the right to grumble, but at the end of the process, vote to confirm unless there are outstanding circumstances that would make their consent unwise for the American public.
Gates was definitely a sacrificial lamb, and in my opinion, not someone who should have been confirmed. I think the Senators did Trump a favor by pushing that appointment off the table. It would have ruined what has been otherwise a good transition (infinitely better than 2016).
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Vic sez….Folks, this happened EVERY FOUR YEARS! There is nothing new about Senators from your party making hay about a nominee.
In 2020, every single Democrat voted for every single Biden nominee, with the exception of one vote by Bernie on one candidate.
There was all kinds of talk against doing it the hard way with Trump; now we are giddy about R Senators doing it the hard way. C’mon man.
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There is a man I know who is a national hero…stepped ashore Iwo Jima just as the flag was being raised. He is in his late 90s, and his health is starting to fail. There just are not that many WWII vets still with us.
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Not everyone here is hung up about Trump’s nominees. I think all of them were/are home runs. Whatever RINO doesnt support them, needs to be primaried.
Nothing to get hung up over.
Mostly just RINOs, NeoCons and those liberals masquerading as truly conservative posters seeking to derail the Trump train while making it look respectable.
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“jason sez…Contrary to Chicon, who I suspect is a blood sucking parasite, I do work.
Despite the unwarranted personal attack by Jason”
Ma, the blood sucking bait works!
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Absolutely right, Oa. I love how asking people to be team players immediately after the 2nd popular vote win in 36 years is a bad thing. They say it has nothing to do with hatred of Trump, but I have my doubts.
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Whatever RINO doesnt support them, needs to be primaried.”
These are the proponents of the 11th Amendment…
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Never said I believed in the so-called 11th Amendment. I believe in America First. Always have, always will. Supported Buchanan and worked in his campaign in 1992 and 1996.
Trump is the closest President to what I believe in during my lifetime.
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What is interesting to me is that the two posters here who least enjoy how Trump interacts with others are also the two posters whose interactions with other posters most resemble Trump’s.
Paging Dr. Freud…
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Team player”
Translation:
Cultist who has to agree with Trump on everything or be called a RINO.
If agreeing that Matt Gaetz, a freedom caucus hostage taker whose “qualifications” for AG were that he was a “lawyer” (he practiced shortly in a law firm after law school and then lost his license for failing to pay his fees, later recovered) before running for congress, was qualified for AG then I am happy not be a “team player”.
If being a “team player” requires supporting Trump’s failed AFL-CIO agenda of stupid tariffs and trade wars and his protectionist and isolationist policies, then I am happy not to be a “team player”:
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Trump learned America First from Reagan. The dopes in-between? Not so much….
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What is interesting to me is that the two posters here who least enjoy how Trump interacts with others”
You are barking up the wrong tree.
The two posters here that least enjoy how Trump interacts are Walt and Bitter (Vic?) not me.
You must of missed my arguments with Walt about this.
I have always said here that the day Trump lets his adversaries define him without fighting back he is toast.
Do I agree with all his statements and attacks? No. But in general “mean tweets” was never a concern of mine.
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Trump learned America First from Reagan.”
The Trump Cultists try and try to compare him to Reagan.
It will always be an epic fail but they try. Somehow they think some of Reagan’s greatness will rub off on Trump. Good luck.
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I think Kash Patel is qualified for the FBI job. Contrary to Gaetz he has an impressive resume. I have actually followed him for a number of years, and read a lot of what he has written and listened to his interviews. If I was voting, I would confirm him.
But if there are R senators that may think he is too partisan for the job, which seems to be the issue, I don’t have a problem with that. It is their job to approve or reject the pick.
If Patel is just going to weaponize the FBI in the other direction, instead of depoliticizing it and making it professional and non-partisan like it used to be, then that would be a legitimate concern for R senators.
At this point, I think Trump needs to do what he evidently did with Gaetz. Determine if there is a legitimate chance he has the votes. If he doesn’t then all the fighting and wasting of political capital is not worth it, best to pick someone else with the same qualifications and ability.
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Where did Trump learn to use a tariff to defend an important US market? From Reagan. Both are correct.
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Supported Buchanan and worked in his campaign in 1992 and 1996.”
Buchanan is a flaming anti-semite and a disgusting excuse for a human being.
Not suprised you endorsed him.
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Jason, Kash believes in the Deep State. You’d have to vote no.
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Where did Trump learn to use a tariff to defend an important US market? From Reagan.””
LOL
Reagan was a free trader and he didn’t believe in blanket tarriffs and stupid tradewars with all our important trading partners.
He (mistakenly, in my view, no one is perfect) enacted some brief tariffs (actually quotas) on one country (Japan) for a limited scope of products.
Nothing like blanket tariffs Trump has imposed on
And Trump did not “learn from Reagan”. If there is ONE thing Trump has been consistent on his whole life is protectionism.
And of course, Reagan’s tariffs failed too.
“Winston has studied the impact of one of Reagan’s first trade tactics against Japan — a quota imposed in 1981 on the number of Japanese cars that could come into the U.S. every year. It was meant to give American car companies like Ford (F), GM (GM)and Chrysler (FCAU) some breathing room from foreign competitors like Toyota and Nissan.
It came at a time when the U.S. economy was in recession in the early 1980s, unemployment was rising towards 10% and inflation was high. U.S. companies were looking for any help they could get.
One result of the new trade restrictions against Japan was that American car companies hiked up car prices, pulling in record profits at the time, Winston found. They didn’t have to fear losing customers to Japanese car companies.
U.S. car makers also lowered production in 1984 to help boost car prices. Less production meant fewer workers: America lost over 60,000 auto jobs between 1982 and 1984 due to the trade restrictions, according to Brookings.
Consumers got hit hard. The average car price rose by about $1,000 at the time.”
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Jason, Kash believes in the Deep State. You’d have to vote no.”
It wouldn’t cost him my vote but maybe it will tank him in the Senate.
Let’s see.
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” Do I agree with all his statements and attacks? No. But in general “mean tweets” was never a concern of mine.”
I will second Jason’s statement above. I do not particularly care how Trump acts, I care how he governs and who he surrounds himself with. I think the only one he really hurts with some of his antics is himself.
As for his cabinet picks, sorry, I draw the line with primary(ing) someone just because they oppose one of his picks. Trump didn’t run for King, he ran for President, which also entails having to submit to the “advise and consent” mandate that the Senate has.
I believe, though, that a candidate has to be extremely unqualified (like Gaetz) to not be confirmed by your own party BUT, a Senator is surely entitled to their own opinion about a nominee.
My guess is 95%+ of his nominees will get the Republican backing they need.
That does mean they are RINO’s…whatever that means now, because it’s different than what it was.
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McCormick’s lead in the PA senate race dropped from 15,199 to 15,196.
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As for his cabinet picks, sorry, I draw the line with primary(ing) someone just because they oppose one of his picks. Trump didn’t run for King, he ran for President, which also entails having to submit to the “advise and consent” mandate that the Senate has.“
I would have written that if I was as smart as Vic.
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McCormick’s lead in the PA senate race dropped from 15,199 to 15,196″
I saw that.
Casey has retracted his concession.
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lol–I will keep checking if for no other reason, I want to see if they ever remove the ballots the PA high court said MUST be removed. We were also told that the counting was frozen when Casey conceded. I guess the freeze must have thawed out.
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Casey is claiming that since the counting ended before all votes were counted nobody won.
As such he will be half a Senator, and McCormick half a Senator.
They will shoot dice to decide who votes (and speaks) on each bill.
However, they both will receive a full salary, of course, and full benefits.
To avoid any confusion, McCormick will always wear a red tie, and Casey a blue one.
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I guess it could be worse, Casey could have stolen it completely.
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Uh, oh.
Fetterman is claiming that under that arrangement since 75% of PA senators are Democrats and only 25% Republican, they get to vote on all bills.
However, McCormick will be the one sent to all state funerals so it is not like he is irrelevant.
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Hey Bitter, did you notice all 3 statewide R candidates ran ahead of Trump in PA?
Trump won by 120,000 votes so I thought he might have dragged some people over the finish line like maybe he did with McCormick.
But Dave Sunday won the AG race by 317,000 votes
Tim Defoor won the Audtior General race by 354,000 votes
And Stacy Garrity won the Treasurer race by an astounding 427,000 votes.
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I guess he is not too busy…
“US President-elect Donald Trump will attend the weekend reopening of the restored Notre Dame cathedral in Paris, which was ravaged by a 2019 fire, he said Monday.”
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Then he is not that bright.
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Tina and Jan to condemn those 3 as RINO’s in 3…2…1…
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NT at 7:00.
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https://republicancaller.com/minnesota-republicans-call-for-new-election-after-ballots-go-missing/
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MN lower house in legislature is currently tied at 67R to 67D.
That is a shock to me.
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Fat Fani loses again.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/judge-orders-fani-willis-release-all-communications-jack/
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@NolteNC
The absurdity of what Joe Biden is trying to get away with is beyond comprehension. His own attorney general CHOSE to focus only on Hunter’s gun and tax crimes because those are the least of the Biden Crime Family’s offenses. Biden is still accusing his own DOJ of selective prosecution to justify an 11-year blanket pardon for any and all federal crimes.
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Dems…
You know, over the last 50 years, the Dems seem to thrive on finding “oppressed” groups and rally to support them and their “issues”. All kinds of minorities…Blacks. women, Puerto Ricans, Latinos, immigrants in general–legal or illegal, Arab minorities, gay, and lesbians, transgenders, poor people, homeless, those who claim to have fluid sexual identity, those triggered by the national anthem or the display of the U.S flag, people who need support animals with them on airplanes, etc. etc.
The Ds always want to create a special class of people with special protections and laws and policies that bend over backwards to make these groups happy. The problem with this is that is that it creates a special enabled class of folk who seem to have it better that the regular John or Jane Doe who is in none of these special groups. They special classes of folks get lots of government assistance, etc. (illegal immigrants are the best example today) to “right the wrongs of pas bad treatment or discrimination or whatever. But the Ds always seem to want to go further and farther in the “protection” of these groups. Until the “protection” becomes an irritant to the John and Jane Does who see these protected classes getting way more federal assistance than all the Johns and Janes do, and J and J feels the over protection has gotten to the point that it imperils the views, thoughts and beliefs of J and J Doe. (Canada is fining town officials for not declaring LBGTQ month or not flying the LBGTQ flag–how soon will that come to the U.S.?) The NBA is issuing $100,000 fines to player who use gay slurs. I am also talking about preferred hiring, quotas in hiring and in school admissions, preferential treatment on the job as the protected classes get a pass on certain actions, work performance or behavior than do J and J.
Just my random thoughts…
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“poor people, homeless,”
Starting January 20, HOMELESSNESS and POVERTY are going to suddenly become HUGE and TRAGIC issues here in America!
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