If for no other reason to see what their flags look like.
 | RHODE ISLAND – Zogby |
| Trump | 43 |
| Biden | 47.6 |
 | CONNECTICUT – Zogby |
| Trump | 37.8 |
| Biden | 54.7 |
 | DELAWARE – Zogby |
| Trump | 39.6 |
| Biden | 50.5 |
 | HAWAII – Zogby |
| Trump | 33.4 |
| Biden | 55.1 |
 | OREGON – Zogby |
| Trump | 43.5 |
| Biden | 47.4 |
 | LOUISIANA – Zogby |
| Trump | 53.9 |
| Biden | 39.4 |
The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
23 responses to “More Zogby: The previously unpolled states”
Well, DW, you (and we) wanted some polling in other states. Too bad it is somebody with credibility issues who is also working for one of the candidates.
Chicon
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And yet these particular numbers are not at all unbelievable. OR and RI show tighter races than expected, but otherwise, these numbers are reasonable.
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Maybe RI slightly rebels at the Massachusetts Dems who moved there. Slightly. CT is essentially New York.
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The trouble is that Zogby is working for Kennedy, and is trying to push the idea of Biden being the real spoiler instead of Biden. This deal heavily relies on polls, which makes his polls circumspect. They are basically push polls.
It is fun, though, to get some info from these states.
Chicon
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Instead of Kennedy…
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Chicon, that’s my take on these polls as well. Interesting to look at though, given the many caveats. But the BIG takeaway is that Kennedy’s posture is TRUMP MUST be STOPPED, so much so that Biden should step aside as Kennedy alone can stop him. That is terrific news. I was growing concerned that many wobbly Trump voters were seeing Kennedy as Trump without the baggage.
But with this, Kennedy has basically announced that he is BIDEN without dementia. His veep pick revealed this, but now with this, its clear even more. This sort of trajectory, if Kennedy is somewhat successful (and I don’t think he will be) could end with election day popular vote totals like this:
Trump 40
Biden 30
Kennedy 25
Stein 2
West 2
Others 1
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2024 National GE:
@Rasmussen_Poll
Trump 46% (+10)
Biden 36%
RFK Jr 9% —
Trump 48% (+12)
Biden 36%
RFK Jr 8%
West 1%
Stein 1%
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Kennedy with 25? I do not see it BUT this is going to be a strange election.
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LOL
“Joe Scarborough Blasts MSNBC Viewers ‘Too Stupid’ To See Campus Protests Hurting Biden’s Reelection: ‘Change to Another Channel’
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If Trump only loses Rhode Island by 4 he will win 40 states a la GHWB against Dukakis.
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Kennedy with 25?
I don’t either. I was just saying that this could be the trajectory if Kennedy pulls off the notion that only he can defeat Trump, while Biden cannot–which was the entire purpose of the Zogby polling.
It would be interesting, if, lets say sometime in mid-October, when millions of early votes (for Biden) have already been cast, and suddenly Biden has a complete and final health breakdown, rendering him completely unfit to even be someone’s puppet.
Dems would have a “Donner Party” decision to make. Do they press ahead asking for everyone to vote for the nearly dead guy, so that Kamala would be sworn in instead, or do they ask everyone to vote for Kennedy instead, even though it would mean losing all the millions of early votes cast for Biden.
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RFK Jr 8%
West 1%
Stein 1%”
Could be very important…. or not….
Depends where most of these third party votes are. If they are mostly in blue states where people say I will vote third party because Biden will win here anyway it won’t matter.
If it takes 2-3% from Biden in states like PA, WI, MI, AZ….could be decisive.
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Kennedy is not getting 25% even if Biden craps his pants and starts using a pacifier in public.
He doesn’t have the organization, is not on the ballot in all states, and 80% of America views him as kooky.
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My prediction is that they will plan to stick with Biden, with the caveat that if he has a major health meltdown before the convention, they will replace him at the convention. But if he doesn’t and is still more or less upright on his feet, they will go with him. And Kennedy will eventually dry up. Some national polls (Economist/YouGov) consistently have him at 3% nationally, while others its closer to 10%.
But spending on advertising, lack of ground game, and a host of factors that favor the two-party system, will eventually push Kennedy down into the the Stein/West category. He might get 3% in the end. He will do doubt get on the ballot in all 50 states, as he has already cleared the hurdle in TX, the hardest state requiring the most signatures.
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This is day 1200 of the Biden regime. Do you know where your freedoms are?
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2024 GE:
@RedfieldWilton
Trump 43% [+2]
Biden 41% [=]
RFK Jr. 7% [-2] [+/- change vs April] — #110 (1.8/3.0) | 1,133 LV | May 1
Interesting, RFK loses two from their last poll, while Trump gains two. Perhaps an indication of wobbly Trump voters who gave RFK a consideration and now upon reflection thought better of it?
I met a guy like this, who in fact is a Paul-bot. They loved RFK for standing up against the covid nonsense, and thought that if he ran to the right of Biden, that he could earn their votes. But since then, he picked a leftist loon for veep, and has been bashing Trump. So these voters have returned to Trump.
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Democrats are not stupid. They know that in close states, a vote for Kennedy only helps Trump. They will stay with Biden.
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This year seems a lot like 1968…something these protestors are trying to emulate…not realizing that the “people” they are protesting for would either banish them, or kill them, if they were living in their society.
Back to 1968. Wallace ended up being a credible candidate, and took away enough votes from Humprhey to win the Presidency for Nixon. I don’t think Kennedy gets the same support as Wallace, but, it might just be enough as Dems see Biden as either old and feeble, or a sell out. Make no mistake, Kennedy is a Kennedy, and he’s ultra liberal. Way to the left of Biden on everything except COVID vaccinations.
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538 refused to post the new Rasmussen poll. He also refused to post the Zogby polls many of them showing bad news for Biden. He did post the Zogby polls that were for races that will never happen, Biden vs Kennedy, and Trump vs. Kennedy.
But the ONE race that will happen, Trump vs Biden, he refused to post the numbers. Its gotten to him. He can’t stand it that Biden isn’t running away with the election. He banned the Big Data Poll, and now won’t post polls that show bad news for Biden.
And with RCP being VERY selective in what they include, that leaves the Hedgehog Report polling aggregator the only place where ALL polls are included.
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way to go DW!
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btw. Will the Dems throw out Cuellar the way R’s did santos. Not a fat chance
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/03/us/politics/henry-cuellar-indictment.html?nl=from-the-times®i_id=232686430&segment_id=165590
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seriously. Where had everyone gone the past couple days. There are not many of us to start with lol
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N/T
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