 | PENNSYLVANIA – YouGov |
| Trump | 50 |
| Biden | 49 |
 | WISCONSIN – YouGov |
| Trump | 50 |
| Biden | 49 |
 | MICHIGAN – YouGov |
| Trump | 49 |
| Biden | 51 |
These are races that will never happen because Kennedy, Stein and West will likely be on the ballot in these states.
Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
 | GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
63 responses to “CBS/YouGov polls races that will never happen in WI, PA, and MI”
You’d have to be an ostrich to not see that the national security apparatus (including CIA and FBI) have been interfering in the electoral process in the US. Include the clearly coordinated “charges” against Trump.
Yep, the Poll Deniers might also be called The Ostriches.
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There is no evidence of deep state interference in our elections.
-Free passer
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okay, I see now that at least in Michigan, CBS/You gov did poll the others, getting the same Biden + 2 margin. But why didn’t they do this in PA and WI? Maybe the results they got were too depressing so they deleted it?
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/04/new-judge-cannon-unseals-unredacted-mar-lago-search/
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I have to marvel at Bitter’s mild hypocrisy. He constantly chastises Tina for posting “free passers,” when, according to him, there is no HHR poster that will vote for Biden (although, no one knows who Walt will vote for).
However, he continues to rail against Tina and myself, accusing us of being for Putin, when we both have never said or even implied such garbage. What gets to Bitter, though, is when anyone challenges which national security risk poses the biggest problems — a country (not an ally) thousands of miles away or a border invasion which, in the case of my primary residence, is a few hundred miles away. Furthermore, a Republican majority house could have more aggressively pitted the aid for Ukraine with the need for more border protections if they had the guts to do so.
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“Furthermore, a Republican majority house could have more aggressively pitted the aid for Ukraine with the need for more border protections if they had the guts to do so.”
Except that even in this scenario, it played out surprisingly well for your view, and we got it through the house and senate that we spend only $19.95 on Ukraine, and spend $1,000,000,000,000 on the southern border, not one penny would ACTUALLY get spent to improve the border security. So long as Biden is in office.
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“Furthermore, a Republican majority house could have more aggressively pitted the aid for Ukraine with the need for more border protections if they had the guts to do so.”
Zzzzzz…..
The old “leverage” BS again.
There was not leverage. Biden would never sign any “border protection” bill.
There is NO REASON to tie Ukraine aid to border security because they are unrelated.
Aid to Ukraine is in OUR interest.
The only reason Janzam and Tina oppose aid has nothing to do with money or the southern border.
It has 100% to do with the fact they see aid as an impediment to their Dear Leader Pooty Poot.
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Jan takes the lead in the HHR Clown race.
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“Biden would never sign any ‘border protection’ bill.”
And even if he did, that’s not the same as actually giving the orders and spending the money. Biden would never give that order and not one penny would be actually spent.
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accusing us of being for Putin, when we both have never said or even implied such garbage.”
LOL
The two of you have been shilling for your Putin icon for years, and you never implied “such garbage”? Really? On what universe is that?
You are on the side of war crimes, rapes, torture, exiling, kidnapping of bombing of civilians, hospitals, school and train stations. You are shameless enablers and supporters of the Russian invaders. You celebrate the killing of Ukrainians.
You can’t hide behind “border security” and “audits”
GFY.
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Jan – Do you honestly believe Biden would be working on border security except for Ukraine?
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I disagree DW with your logic.
The Republican Party should be acting as a strong, viable opposition party to the Dems. Even if there is little to no chance of getting a proposal by a dim-witted governmental power, the sheer effort to challenge the government with a serious alternative bill gives exposure to the problem, demonstrating to Republican constituencies they are being honestly represented, rather than ignored – as what many see the House’s complete capitulation as being.
Furthermore, there should be more authentic reporting how badly the war is going for the average Ukrainian. They are the ones called upon to fight, oftentimes with no rotating replacements, or imprisoned for protesting against the government. There are no accurate death toll counts. There are no public discussions about those fleeing the war. Armaments are being secretly given over to Ukraine, while stories prevail of grenades and arms being secreted out of the country to be sold for profit. Sherman Tanks, given by the U.S. are either destroyed or being pulled back because of their uselessness on the front lines. Instead, all one hears and talks about are almost mythical stories of Zelenskyy emulating Churchill, or how Russia will roll over other countries after conquering Ukraine – with no real evidence to prove the latter and puff pieces to enforce the former image.
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Jason you are a classic example of peddling distorted versions from those who disagree with you. In fact you are far worse than a “useful idiot” in contributing to any up front, civil debate dealing with Ukraine or our own border threats.
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Sherman tanks? Pulled from WW 2 museums? BS. Jan has no criticism of Putin, only Zelensky.
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Supporting Ukraine is the right position. It is embarrassing that so many Republicans don’t realize that.
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Flew into Boston on Thursday morning. Tried to find lisab’s sisters but failed. Did not have much time to do that, as we had to drive to NH to visit my sister (84) in the nursing home (she is now under Hospice care). Three days of visiting (one not good, one very good day, and the last day was so-so). They rally do not have enough staff in any nursing home I have ever visited. Talked with a 98 year ld WW II marine veteran at the nursing home. Talked to another old fellow at the nursing home who really wanted someone to talk to. At the hotel last night on smoke break talked with a Vietnam army vet who was passing by (who readily admitted the war experience screwed up his head and his behavior and words supported that.
Then up at 5:15 a.m. to drive to Boston and flew out of Boston this morning at 9 something to come back to WV.
I am tired.
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they aren’t republicans. Some are Pauliac supporters, some just adopted the isolationist meme of the Paul wing because of soending
what some fail to understand is we are NEVER going to get 100% or our agenda passed, no matter who the “our” is. You have to compromise on some things to get other things done.
btw Thats BS thst the weapons are being taken back outside the Ukraine and sold for a profit. Absolutely false and pure propaganda.
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The polling and links for the competitive senate races is now finished.
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Walt is a good man. He has been visiting veterans since the Egyptians fought the Hittites.
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The US Army last used Sherman tanks in 1957. So that part of Jan’s post is as bogus as her Zelensky has 2 yachts nonsense.
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The struggle for the soul of the GOP and how MAGA Mike sold out the party
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/struggle-soul-gop
“The vote will be remembered for the choice Republican leadership made to brazenly reject its own voters in favor of the “uniparty” in Washington, DC.“
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Mass exodus from Argentina to Chile where they can buy goods 50% cheaper
https://x.com/upholdreality/status/1784610268330291335?s=46
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Johnson got bribed by AIPAC to pass the money laundering bill TWICE
https://x.com/marionawfal/status/1784677971246117104?s=46
According to a new FEC Reports, House Speaker Mike Johnson allegedly received $524,000 from AIPIC. And a $95,000 payment from a foreign lobby group shortly after the passing of the $14.5 billion military aid package.
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Furthermore, there should be more authentic reporting how badly the war is going for the average Ukrainian. ”
I agree. More should be shown of the destruction wrought on Ukraine by Putin.
The average Ukrainian is suffering greatly because of your hero Putin.
No other reason.
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Oh and the proof Russia will try to roll over other countries is two fold.
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”The US House of Representatives passed legislation to allow the transfer of seized Russian assets to Ukraine.
According to CNN – The measure approved by the House on April 20 will enable the executive branch to seize immobilized Russian assets and use them to help Ukraine’s defense and recovery efforts.
In response to the move by US lawmakers Russia confiscated $439 million from JPMorgan, the largest US Bank.”
There was a small detail stuffed into the recently passed aid package allowing U.S. sanctions over Russia to go on indefinitely, giving Biden the ability to seize Russian assets, and tying future presidents hands from doing anything about it. More sensible people warned this would discourage countries from investing funds in the U.S. that could be seized, and additionally give Russia reasons to seize American assets in their country. It took little time for this to happen.
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But anyway, for the 50th time let’s ask the question.
Janzam, how much sovereign Ukrainian territory are you willing to surrender to your man Putin and how many millions of Ukrainians are you comfortable being enslaved by the invaders?
Still waiting for an answer.
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Russia is responsible for for hundreds of billions in damages to Ukraine.
Why shouldn’t their assets be confiscated?
Janzam, do you think Russia should have to pay for the destruction they wrought in Ukraine?
Yes or no?
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More sensible people warned this would discourage countries from investing funds in the U.S. that could be seized,”
Zzzzzzz…..
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allowing U.S. sanctions over Russia to go on indefinitely,”
Shouldn’t sanctions go on “indefinitely” as long as Russia is occupying Ukraine?
So many good questions for the Putin toady.
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Three good questions for the Putin lapdog.
Let’s hear the answers.
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”They rally do not have enough staff in any nursing home I have ever visited.”
My first real job was at 16, when I hired on as a “nurse’s aide” at a local rest home. I felt it would give me early geriatric experience that would be helpful when I became an RN. It was an eye-opener, even then, how poor the nursing care was for the elderly in some of these facilities. The staffing was usually insufficient, the care impersonal when there were extreme shortages of personnel. I worked the evening shift and sometimes had as many as 20 patients to get ready for bed, at my young age. It was a challenge, but one I became good at, as the nursing home patients begin to request me as their “nurse” when schedules were made.
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I take people at their word. If Jan says she is a nurse, ok. Which makes her appalling indifference to Putin’s victims even worse.
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I woke up this morning and TDS had completely left my soul.
Some positive legal developments in Trumps favor are chipping away at my deep cynicism left after the Russia Hoaxers got away with spying on a Presidential campaign and setup Trump for failure or impeachment.
Just maybe… justice might be served? … well except in NY state. (Not excusing Trumps reckless Eastman plot to overturn the election or the January 6th riot.)
Just maybe… Trump might have a slight chance to overcome the corrupt voting scams?
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Great news, JeffP. Less TDS one person at a time.
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Under what circumstances should American troops go to Ukraine to directly fight the Russian Bear.
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Which makes her appalling indifference to Putin’s victims even worse.”
Pretty sick. She has no empathy for the victims of Putin’s indiscriminate slaughter of Ukrainian civilians and she has a downright hatred of the Ukrainians fighting and dying for their country.
There might be a special place in hell for that type of “nurse”.
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Under what circumstances should American troops go to Ukraine to directly fight the Russian Bear.”
Too late now. The US/NATO should have imposed a no fly zone over the pre invasion borders of Ukraine BEFORE the invasion. The Russian would have had to call off the invasion because either they would have no air support OR they would have to to on offense against the no fly zone defenders.
NOW the only way US troops should get involved is after Ukraine is admitted to NATO.
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would have to to on offense against the no fly zone defenders
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geezus… GO on offense
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I am watching a show on the Titanic on CNN.
Yes, sue me and/or GFY.
But the reason I bring it up is they just ran an anti-Biden ad on immigration.
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CNN???
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“How it really happened”
Not usually the “forte” of CNN
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Ok, Jason favored direct US involvement at the start of the invasion, but not now. I’m not sure why the US Air Force couldn’t do a No-Fly zone now, but that’s Jason’s answer.
What say you, Bitter?
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I’m not sure why the US Air Force couldn’t do a No-Fly zone now,”
Because essentially you are guaranteeing a confrontation and conducting an offensive operation considering the Russians are already over Ukraine.
A no fly BEFORE the Russians started bombing Ukraine would have reversed that scenario, it would be the Russians who would have had to go on the attack.
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Rumor is Burgum is now the front runner for VP.
It would be very pragmatic of Trump, Burgum is not a conservative either.
Burgum is another crony capitalist like Trump. But contrary to Trump he is viewed as a moderate. He is also very rich.
I don’t think he is a good pick. But if you believe the adage that a VP pick can’t help you but can hurt you, then Burgum won’t hurt Trump either.
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There is no need for US troops. Ukrainians are fighting for their survival.
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Too late for a No-Fly zone by US pilots. Not too late to give fighters to Ukraine.
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Most victims of Titanic did not drown. They froze to death in minutes.
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Neither the US, nor any other NATO member will commit troops to the Ukraine. Doing so would start WWIII much like Sarajevo in WW1. That will not happen. They will continue to support the resistance to the war started by Putin by pledging weapons, support and when needed capital to…purchase more weapons to fend off the unjustified invasion.
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Bitter – I did not know that. Interesting, but understandable…the water was cold enough to have icebergs…ipso facto
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I said NATO should have admitted Ukraine the day Russia invaded.
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bitter. It’s not that simple. It may seem so, but it’s not.
to begin with, if Ukraine had been admitted to NATO the day Russia invaded then NATO would have been committed to sending in ground troops immediately, as that’s part of the pact. That would have had cataclysmic geopolitical consequences.
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And Putin (or the military in a coup) would have backed off if Ukraine was a NATO member.
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Youre making it out to be simpler than it is, or was, but I actually don’t want to get into the whole Ukraine argument. I support sending aid to them, military equipment to them, and ensuring we do all we can to help them repel the unjustified Russian invasion. It is a pretty simple decision, and there is no alternative.
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The point is there was not enough of a deterrent in place. That is why I don’t think Putin would have ever invaded with Trump as President because there were too many unknowns as to how he would respond (after all, he did tell Putin he would nuke Moscow if that happened, not likely but it is the language Putin understands). I think during the several months the Russians started massing troops at the border Trump would have been much more aggressive to prevent it than Biden was. And THAT is when the no fly over the pre-invasion borders should have been implemented as a defensive operation.
Now I agree with Vic, we need to provide all the need Ukraine need to repel the invasion. As he says, “that is a simple decision and there is no alternative”. Well, there is the alternative the Putin Lapdogs propose, unconditional surrender.
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I do agree with Bitter that there was too much worrying about what Putin would do (he has nukes!) and not enough of letting Putin know what WE would do.
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No polls so far today.
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That’s ok. The accepted wisdom at HHR is only Democrats answer the phone on weekends.
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The polls collected over weekends don’t typically get released until Tuesday or Wednesday. But I don’t accept that theory anyway, especially now that the bulk of polling is done with a mixture of landlines, cell phones, texting, and online surveys.
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But I can see why CNN dropped that Trump +6 / Trump +9 national poll early on a Sunday morning rather than during prime-time on a Monday night.
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It seems that there’s agreement that there’s no circumstance in which American troops should participate in Ukraine. Except perhaps for Bitter, who wants Ukraine in NATO (which would obligate US participation).
If the war in Ukraine is, from the US point-of-view, limited to financial participation, what are it’s limits? I assume Jason and Bitter would have no limits in time or money. How about others (we know Tina and Jan’s stance)?
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New thread. Answer Chi’s question there.
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