Monday Night Open Thread. Hope it works for Jason.

80 responses to “Monday Night Open Thread. Hope it works for Jason.”

  1. Vic – Somehow, the Eagles keep winning. Good thing they play for 60 minutes or more because if games were 56 minutes, they would have lost a few more.

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  2. <i>“[Private] Bohdan Lysenko, of Ukraine’s 47th Brigade: ‘We don’t have a chance playing [a] war of exhaustion with Russia. We need a fundamental change in our army’.”

    Lysenko’s unit is defending the town of Avdiivka, in Ukraine’s eastern Donetsk region, with only 20 men. The company began the summer with 120 men, many of whom are now dead, wounded or have been transferred away from the front line.”</i>

    Many of the headlines generated from western media, hyping Ukrainian progress is sheer propaganda, and is very different than what is going on the ground. What were once eager volunteers have now turned into exhausted older fighters, mixed in with women, forced to be on the front lines. It is said the US government wants to keep this war going until next year’s election, while Zelenskyy has cancelled Ukraine’s March 2024 elections so he remains in power. In the meantime our own debt is predicted to grow another trillion, from this September, by the end of the year. Putin, OTOH, is showing no signs of leaving Ukraine or giving up areas that have methodically been conquered. And, then there are the armchair warriors on this blog, who don”t read links others post, and who probably have had no military experience themselves, who pound their fists to give more money to a failing war so more Ukrainian commoners can be coerced to die on the front lines.

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  3. Jan still thinks that if Ukraine surrenders to Putin that it will make a deliverance in the debt. It won’t. Biden will just waste it on something. Also, Jan condemns Zelensky for Ukrainian deaths rather than the person who is 100% responsible – Putin.

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  4. Don’t feel bad. I rarely read Pravda or Izvestia, either. I get Putin’s talking points from you and Tina.

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  5. The DeSantis campaign and Super Pac has close to 10X cash on hand than the RNC 9 million. Let that sink in.

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  7. Another one of Jacks straw man points. He publicly voiced support for Harmeet at the most crucial time. Typical hypocritical Trump poser…he would never implicate Trump or question why Trump stays quiet on Ronna. These people are losers.

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  8. Elon Musk stated during a Visit today to Israel in which met with Isreali Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Isaac Herzog, while also Touring the Towns near the Border with Gaza that were Razed during the Hamas Surprise Attack on October 7th that, “There is No Choice but to Kill those who Insist on Murdering Civilians.”

    Exactly

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  9. Rich Baris “The People’s Pundit”
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    Judge in Rhode Island tosses challenge seeking to remove Donald Trump from the ballot in the state.
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  11. bitter. Not only do they keep winning in the last seconds, but on a 59 yard field goal. It might be their year. It also shows just how good kickers are nowadays that we see so many field goals if more than 55 yards sail through without a problem. Crazy.

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  12. Vic – 59 yards in the rain!

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  13. “The DeSantis campaign and Super Pac has close to 10X cash on hand than the RNC 9 million. Let that sink in.” Amazing waste of money. Hope they are saving that to help Trump win the general election.

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  14. Does the FBI employ pathologists? Seems you would need them if you’re going to influence the pathologist doing the autopsy.

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  15. If Trump is the nominee, I expect that he will lose the GE straight up and not due to fraud. He will get my vote but it won’t matter. Both can be true.

    The 2024 election was decided by the 2022 Dobbs Opinion. It was used heavily by Dems in PA and NJ in the 2022 and 2023 elections.

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  16. “Don’t feel bad. I rarely read Pravda or Izvestia, either. I get Putin’s talking points from you and Tina”

    Good one. GFY

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  17. Putin, OTOH, is showing no signs of leaving Ukraine or giving up areas that have methodically been conquered”

    Wow, Janzam admits that the Russians have “conquered” Ukrainian territory. Before, her position was that Putin was just freeing Russian territory from the Nazis.

    But she is right, Putin shows no sign of leaving therefore we should help the Ukrainians kick him out.

    In any case, Janzam still has not answered Bitter’s fundamental question. How much sovereign Ukrainian territory is she willing to surrender and how many millions of Ukrainians does she accept being enslaved by Russia.

    We are waiting…

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  18. JeffP

    November 27, 2023 at 9:03 pm

    Elon Musk stated during a Visit today to Israel in which met with Isreali Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Isaac Herzog, while also Touring the Towns near the Border with Gaza that were Razed during the Hamas Surprise Attack on October 7th that, “There is No Choice but to Kill those who Insist on Murdering Civilians.”

    Exactly”

    But according to Amoral Scumbag, who has the moral compass of a floating turd, Musk is an “anti-semite”.

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  19. >“[Private] Bohdan Lysenko, of Ukraine’s 47th Brigade: ‘We don’t have a chance playing [a] war of exhaustion with Russia. We need a fundamental change in our army’.

    Zzzzzz…. I can come up with hundreds of posts of Russian soldiers much worse than that. Janzam only reads official Russian propaganda. Here is a taste of the real world for her enjoyment.

    “In audio intercepts from the front lines in Ukraine, Russian soldiers speak in shorthand of 200s to mean dead, 300s to mean wounded. The urge to flee has become common enough that they also talk of 500s — people who refuse to fight.

    As the war grinds into its second winter, a growing number of Russian soldiers want out, as suggested in secret recordings obtained by The Associated Press of Russian soldiers calling home from the battlefields of the Kharkiv, Luhansk and Donetsk regions in Ukraine.

    The calls offer a rare glimpse of the war as it looked through Russian eyes — a point of view that seldom makes its way into Western media, largely because Russia has made it a crime to speak honestly about the conflict in Ukraine. They also show clearly how the war has progressed, from the professional soldiers who initially powered Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion to men from all walks of life compelled to serve in grueling conditions.”

    https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-war-russian-soldiers-intercepted-audio-d2418788051731a32689feb821cd29ec

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  20. It is the Russians who have run out of professional soldiers and are using conscripts as cannon fodder in Ukraine. At least the conscripts in Ukraine are fighting for their country.

    What are the Russians fighting for? Putin and Janzam’s dream of another Soviet Union.

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  21. And, then there are the armchair warriors on this blog, who don”t read links others post, and who probably have had no military experience themselves, who pound their fists to give more money to a failing war so more Ukrainian commoners can be coerced to die on the front lines.”

    Janzam is right. I don’t read official Kremlim propaganda. As Bitter pointed out, if I wanted to do that, all I would have to do is read her “links”. And as can be seen from MY LINK above, it is the Russians that are sending “commoners to die” in a country that is not theirs.

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  22. According to Sky News, the kidnapped Israelis, many who had their families murdered, and who lived in fear of execution by terrorists for 50 days with little food or water, were “held in reasonable conditions” and were only afraid of “Israeli bombardment”.

    “They were held in reasonable conditions, reportedly, though those held above ground lived with the fear of being killed in Israel’s bombardment”

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

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  23. Breaking News – Soldiers do NOT want to be fighting. They would rather be home. I think this trend has continued since Walt first fought the Neanderthals.

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  24. You can believe General Petraeus or you can believe Janzam’s pro-Putin propaganda. Hmmmm…. tough one…

    “The way Ukraine has conducted this counteroffensive [since the summer of 2023] is very impressive. The Ukrainians have adapted very well. They changed their actions as soon as they understood the complexity and difficulties of these defensive structures [in the south]. They are making progress. Slowly, of course, but it is significant progress. So I get excited again when I see what the Ukrainians have done. They are constantly innovating, adapting, and learning. I recently wrote an article in response to these pessimistic reports [about the pace of Ukrainian progress] and said, ‘Stop criticizing and do everything you can to help the Ukrainians succeed.”

    US military leader, former CIA Director, former commander of international coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, and former head of the United States Central Command, retired U.S. four-star general David Petraeus, in an interview with NV, Sept. 2023.

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  25. I think the Nearnderthals were Walt’s third campaign, after Australopitecus and Homo Habilis.

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  26. Walt said Hannibal’s elephants were kind creatures until they started stomping on people.

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  27. Nobody wants to fight. But there is a difference in motivation when you are defending a homeland and a cause you believe in. Morale is an important factor in combat. Of course there are other factors that contribute to morale, such as equipment, rations, confidence in your superiors, etc. But I doubt most Russians soldiers believe in the cause once they get to the battlefield and see that the Ukrainians don’t want to be part of Russia. They will quickly see that the propaganda they are fed in Russia that the Ukrainians are just waiting to be liberated from Nazism by the heroic Russians is BS. And once they see their superiors regard them as expendable then morale will deteriorate and so will the will to fight. Janzam’s theory that the Russians have unlimited human resources they can commit to battle is only valid to a certain point. These “unlimited resources” still have to be trained, equipped, transported and supplied. Having unlimited resources in Russia is not the same as having unlimited resources on the front lines. Ukraine has not advanced as much as they wanted in the counteroffensive for the same reason the Russians failed to advance, they are moving against fortified positions. Still, the gains are impressive, especially the bridgeheads across the Dnipro.

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  28. Jan cares deeply about the Ukrainian soldiers who are dying. She supports the Russian soldiers who are killing them. Both can be true.

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  29. I am taking the Jason/Bitter echo chamber less seriously as time goes on. Their posts have little substance except to toss ludicrous accusations at posters disagreeing with their insatiable eagerness to finance Ukraine, despite the stalemate, the spring offensive failure, bureaucratic corruption and lack of trained young fighters reported by on-the-ground sources, including Ukrainian generals and Zelenskyy aides.

    As for dragging up Petraeus as a stellar source of appraising this war, his credentials and reputation dimmed after he gave binders of classified info to a writer he was having an affair with in 2012. After that episode he seemed to lose his own military perspective, and instead tried to regain respectability by going with the establishment mindset. This, IMO, is the genesis of that excerpt which totally parroted the government and MSM narrative being distributed for naive public consumption.

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  30. QAnon nonsense. I said Bunu gets to post something once. Twice? Gone.

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  31. Jan will really upon Russian officers she knows nothing about and accept that their motives are pure.

    So, Jan, how much Ukrainian territory and Ukrainians forced to live under Putin’s tyranny are acceptable to you?

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  32. Bitter the Ukrainian war is not about me nor you. It involves the people living there (especially fighting on the front lines). What are the Ukrainian people willing to do in order to end the war with Russia. I know all you want to do is dangle a supercilious kind of question offering nothing but fodder for you to play with. However, whether it’s Putin or the growing Zelenskyy tyranny, why not allow the Ukrainian people the opportunity to chose a leader, instead of cancelling next year’s March election?

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  33. A lot of words to not answer. Thanks for the non-response.

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  34. Jeb to now fundraise for Rds?

    A series of sad missteps just never ends

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  35. It was sad that the drats referred to general petraeus and betrayus.

    I don’t think he knows much as to what is happening in Ukraine.

    He is entitled to,his opinion, however.

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  36. “Numerous analysts believe that the administration’s supplemental, in addition to its record-breaking defense funding, would effectively serve as a massive transfer of wealth from American taxpayers to the defense sector.

    Stephen Semler, co-founder of the Security Policy Reform Institute think tank, said that defense contractors stand to reap billions from the administration’s requested supplemental, which would go “mostly to just a few companies.”

    “Based on my estimate, the proposal would produce $60 billion in revenue for private-sector military contractors,” Mr. Semler said in an email.

    Whether those billions of dollars will adequately serve the national interest is an open question. To that end, Mr. Semler says that the Biden administration is now “selling” the spending package as an economic boon because most people won’t believe it would improve national security interests abroad.

    “If people don’t buy the foreign policy argument for spending $106 billion, the thinking goes, maybe they’ll support it if it’s framed as domestic policy,” Mr. Semler said.”

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  37. Bitter, I’ll answer serious questions, not the frivolous gotcha ones that you pose about Ukraine to justify your extremely myopic view of that war. IOW, you see, read, and hear only what fits into your own POV. And, that’s all it really is – a POV – as most already know the MSM and current government are biased and readily discards factual reporting when it serves their own purpose.

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  38. You are the one who wants Ukraine to make “brutal compromises.” Own it and define what you mean.

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  39. Irony meter explodes as Jan uses every pro-Putin and anti-Zelensky talking point she can find to advocate for the surrender of Ukraine.

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  40. Interesting development as the Koch machine backs Haley. No surprise. This could keep her campaign going well past South Carolina.

    Without winning Iowa or NH I think RDS waits it out until 2028 at 44 he has plenty of credibility for a long shelf life. He will easily be a top non establishment candidate then.

    This Haley move is a concerted effort to get back to the status quo. It just might work too.

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  41. Haley and RDS are clown candidates.

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  42. Not sure about viability in 2028, JeffP. 4 years is forever in politics. He will be out of office by then and irrelevant by then.

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  43. Still waiting for Putin lapdog Janzam tell us how much sovereign Ukrainian territory she wants to give the Russians and how many million Ukrainians she is willing to have Russia enslave.

    Seems like a “serious” question to me.

    So far a lot of mumbo jumbo and Russian state TV talking points but no answer.

    Come on Janzam, answer the question. You want Ukraine to surrender, so what are the terms? How much territory should be surrendered and how many people do you propose to enslave?

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  44. Tis true.

    What’s going to be real funny is if Haley goes head to head with Trump and he ends up losing the nomination to her after training all his seals to lie about RDS for the last year.

    I am convinced if the primary becomes a binary choice soon enough…regardless if it’s Haley or RDS…with all of Trumps legal issues… he will not win the nomination.

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  45. Why not allow the Ukrainian people the opportunity to chose a leader, instead of cancelling next year’s March election?”

    I will believe Janzam is “concerned” about democracy in Ukraine when she calls for free elections in Russia, end of media control and the right of opposition candidates to campaign and run, none of which is allowed.

    Ukraine is understandably under martial law and about 25% of its territory is under occupation, another 50% under serious risk of bombardment, so holding elections at the moment is impossible, Janzam knows that.

    However, there should be no problem in having free and fair elections in Russia.

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  46. The Ukrainian people have elected two leaders in a row who ran on a platform of becoming part of the European community and cutting ties with Russia.

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  47. Janzam hardest hit again. Excellent article on how despite Russian propaganda, the war is not really at a “stalemate” and Ukraine has been making strategic gains. And the reason for those gains is the military aid it is receiving. That is what is bothering the Putin toadies. The aid IS working.

    https://www.wearethemighty.com/military-news/ukraine-stalemate-not-a-stalemate/

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  48. Hamas wants all these companies boycotted. Good luck with that.

    https://twitter.com/Naila_Ayad/status/1729251964733763893

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  49. Nikki Warmonger is “surging” per Faux. They have a new “interest”.

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  50. “Hamas wants all these companies boycotted. Good luck with that. https://twitter.com/Naila_Ayad/status/1729251964733763893

    Jason, are you sure that that’s not a parody? It’s just too rich.

    But at least Bud Light is not on the list, so Transgenders for Hamas don’t need to change their drinking habits. A load off the mind for Bunu!

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  51. Faux has been pushing Haley for a several weeks now. Trumps inability to pass the torch is going to destroy America First eventually. Tea Party part 2. I will say Haley would have a much better chance of winning.

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  52. Poor Melanie. She was seated next to a”big” Mike.

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  53. I appreciate candidates who stand for a strong U.S. military and is willing to tell our enemies to F off. Sue me.

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  54. It is for real

    “Hamas wants all these companies boycotted. Good luck with that. https://twitter.com/Naila_Ayad/status/1729251964733763893

    Jason, are you sure that that’s not a parody? It’s just too rich.

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  55. I think Nikki “You must feel my pain” Haley has the best foreign policy agenda.

    She is unfit for office and couldn’t be trusted to actually do anything she says.

    I wouldn’t vote for her if she was running against Vladimir Putin.

    All three can be true.

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  56. I am surprised Nikki “You must feel my pain” Haley has not issued a pro-Hamas statement yet based on the large pro-Hamas demonstrations. You know she wants too.

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  57. If it is a “binary choice” between Nikki “you must feel my pain” Haley and Trump i might have to re-register as a Republican to vote against her.

    Oh wait, here in Bittersville we don’t have those fancy voting machines like in Radnor where you can vote against a candidate.

    Forget it.

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  58. If it is a choice between Haley and Trump, I will vote for Haley. Jason saying she is unfit for office means that she must be. Bonus.

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  59. Means she must be fit for office. He showed us in 2016 that when he declares somebody unfit, they turn out to be good Presidents.

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  60. This take…

    “Congratulations to Donald Trump on securing the Koch endorsement. Like clockwork, the pro-open borders, pro-jail break bill establishment is lining up behind a moderate who has no mathematical pathway of defeating the former president. Every dollar spent on Nikki Haley’s candidacy should be reported as an in-kind to the Trump campaign. No one has a stronger record of beating the establishment than Ron DeSantis, and this time will be no different.”

    @andrewromeo33

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  61. Speaker Mike Johnson: “Ukraine is another priority…We can’t allow Vladimir Putin to march through Europe.”

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  62. Is there a difference between nikita Haley and demented?

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  63. Will Nikita Haley chose Quittens, the man who marched with blm thugs, as her veep?

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  64. You’re embarrassing yourself, Tina.

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  65. Trump’s statement that he would end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours showed he is a moron on the issue.

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  66. Cry more.

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  67. I remember when Tina liked DeSantis. It was an act. She would never stray from her beloved Trump.

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  68. Cry some more.

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  69. “Is there a difference between nikita Haley and demented?”

    She’s probably worse. You buy a fake war with Iran. Old men in this case an old woman ordering other people’s kids to go fight a war for her lobbyists. Baby boomer voters didn’t seem to learn after Vietnam.

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  70. Even DeSantis is better than haley because he’s kind of a bloke.

    He doesn’t seem to have an agenda…it’s more that he’s just is very interested in “crafting” an agenda to try to win the game of election 2024.

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  71. I purchased a Mad Lad last week; I think this thing is going to overthrow the king (bored ape Yacht Club)

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  72. Where did I write that I disliked him? I always wrote that he would be a fine president.

    I disagreed with his Twitter idiots and have said so since last novemeber at the old site. For example, it was stupid for him associate with those Twitter folks that went full anti vax, or tried to,white wash his lock down record. (Beaches closed). People are over Covid, but they want the Ccp and Fraudci to pay for their lies.

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