Here is my take on the newest indictment of Trump. I think it is political nonsense and dangerous to the future of America. It will not motivate me …
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The denial is deep and wide for sure. 37 Federal counts and more coming from the January 6th investigation…he will be found guilty on something by a jury and face JAIL time. As long as the Woke Commie Dems keep Trump as the focal point they win.
If the GOP electorate is that stupid to nominate Trump then nothing will change with no accountability in the administrative state. So the rage will have negative impact. He will get no pardon.
Making these corruption issues in the DOJ and FBI all about Trump and nominating him verses campaigning against the abuses in light of the “we the people” will lead to disastrous results all across the board for the GOP.
After listening to the RDS speech last night in NC GOP Convention he gets it. Hopefully he wins Iowa and New Hampshire which I think is a great possibility.
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Special counsel Smith indicted Trump aide Walt Nauta for an allegedly false statement of “I don’t know”. John Brennan and James Clapper both lied under oath to Congress. Andrew McCabe lied three times to federal investigators. James Comey 245 times under oath claimed ”I don’t know/remember.” Equal Justice?
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The indictment (allegations) appear weak. Thr cruise ship cons must unite and stop this lawfare and two tiers of justice. It will only get worse. Next, it will be Rds for migrant shipping or some similar bs.
It won’t end.
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Espionage does not apply to a president/former potus. The pra applies. It is the newer statute and trumps the older statute, which may be unconstitutional.
The pra states that it’s up to the potus to decide which records are administrative and which records are personal. If he states personal, it’s his decision solely and not reviewable or reversible.
Any disputes are resolved civilly. There cannot be a criminal matter. The statute is clear on this.
Pra will need to be amended by Congress for any changes
Given this, the broad warrant (unconstitutional), illegal referral by archives to unjustice, the overly broad requests by justice (classified markings/classified markings are presumed to be classified), and constitutional violations, the indictments fail.
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The case is likely to be tossed.
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Notice, 13000 items taken. 100 or so allegedly classified, Justice has issues with 30 documents.
30/13000.
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With respect to the pra, it does not differentiate between classified or classified markings. Whatever the for,mer potus (his decisiom solely) deems personal, it is his. Not reviewable.
The statute was tested by the socks case and ruled in favor of president Clinton. He had 8 years of tapes (classified info) literally in a sock drawer.
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I don’t necessarily agree with the pra but it’s the law. The deep state, Rinos, etc., can only change it through Congress.
This case is even weaker than the Ny fat Albert case.
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It doesn’t end until the next GOP President elect uses Article 2 of the Constitution and has the guts to use it. Only Vivek and DeSantis are campaigning on it.
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The whole thing is BS. The issue is 37 indictments. That’s a lot. I don’t think it gets tossed. January 6th indictments are coming next. The House can only have an impeachment trial of Garland and the Senate will not vote to impeach.
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And if the archives was serious about getting documents back (they had the originals), playing semantic games of docs with classified markings/classsfied is not helpful.
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Good point. It would be nice if the house impeached the goblin garland,
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Correct and no mention of pra in the indictment. Curious.
Also, trump packed all the boxes and caused them to go to Mal.
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Above all, bitters thread topic/related comments are 100%true.
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Those are the words used in thr indictment.
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I dominated this thread. Well, Bl said he did a new thread for me.
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I stopped posting at Hhr. Have to let it go (it’s addictive though, lol)
Too much tgca and mutilations
Jason beotching about this site (I like Jason)
Russian hoaxer
Etc,
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Amy Berman Jackson, the judge presiding on that case, said a couple of very important things,” said Farrell. “That the president had an absolute, unreviewable right to take any records or documents that he wants when he leaves office. “
“No one can come back and second guess or double think or ask questions about what the president elects to take with him,” Farrell continued.
In her ruling, Jackson wrote that “the President enjoys unconstrained authority to make decisions regarding the disposal of documents: ‘[a]lthough the President must notify the Archivist before disposing of records . . . neither the Archivist nor Congress has the authority to veto the President’s disposal decision.’”
Farrell points out that this ruling has existed without challenge or question for ten years.
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So, there are “really” 46 bio labs in Ukraine that we fund? This was deemed at Hhr to be a Pooty poot talking point.
https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3057517/fact-sheet-on-wmd-threat-reduction-efforts-with-ukraine-russia-and-other-former/
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When you take the time to connect all the corruption and people involved Ukraine doesn’t look so hot.
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Is this fake? https://twitter.com/CannConActual/status/1667650134656655361
When does our flag flank another “flag.”
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More Ukrainians killed by Russians looks worse.
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Tina – I don’t have to agree with you to appreciate your posts.
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It’s bad all around. Death and more death
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Same here bl. We disagree and it ends there. Nothing personal.
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Well Trump can run for President behind bars. That would be some crazy happening’s. They should start polling that. It’s definitely more possible than several other candidates running.
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Hi Folks,
I’ve signed off over at Hedgehog. I plan to comment here exclusively, particularly as the lawfare heats up and we move further into election season. It’s going to historic and I look forward to the whole thing.
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The state of the nation:
“Biden is more unfit for office by the minute while GOP nominees devolve into chaos.”
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If you think about it. Trump running for President as a convicted felon is about right for the crazy world we live in.
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I would tell any young couple that were ready to settle down and have children. Live in a solid RED state.
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CBS News Poll: Trump Posts Biggest Lead Yet Over DeSantis
Trump — 61% (+38)
DeSantis — 23%
T. Scott — 4%
Pence — 4%
Haley — 3%
Ramaswamy — 1%
Hutchinson — 1%
Burgum — 1%
Elder — 1%
Christie — 1%
CBS Poll (B+) | 06/07-10 | n=586
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Me too, I am done there.
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This is trumps largest lead. I don’t comment on polling accuracy., etc. beyond my pay grade. Picked out the lead comment from that Twitter post.
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New ABC Post-Trump indictment Poll
• 61% say document charges are serious, including 38% Republicans & 63% independents
• 48/35% believe Trump should be charged
• Trump’s approval is at 31%
ipsos.com/en-us/abc-news…
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This is about what expect. The brainwashing media has sway over independent voters.
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CBS POLL: Who you ARE NOT considering for 2024 GOP nomination? (n=586 R voters)
Christie: 79%
Burgum: 73%
Hutchinson: 73%
Elder: 61%
Pence: 60%
Haley: 57%
Ramaswamy: 56%
T. Scott: 42%
DeSantis: 27%
Trump: 14%
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Christie, I cannot look at. The guy blamed trump because he caught Covid. He refused to wear a mask, or perhaps just not attend the event in 2020
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CBS POLL – 2024 Republican Nomination: right now considering…
28% – Only Trump
48% – Trump and other candidates
24% – Not considering Trump
scribd.com/document/65217…
Pretty soft numbers for Trump. That isn’t very good for a former President. Just saying.
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Maybe Justice could have paid for smith to get a haircut or took a bath. He looked like he rolled out of bed with his announcement.
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No respect by the Saudis here with our heads of state/gubment officials.
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According to Barstool and Andy McCarthy the intelligence and military papers Trump took don’t apply to the PRA. They both think that Trump is very serious trouble. Not withstanding the Clinton hypocrisy and 2 tiered injustice. If they are correct this is going to get very ugly fast.
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Christie apparently will not abandon Ukraine. He goes to the top of my list for 2024.
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https://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-clinton-sock-drawer-audio-tape-case-exonerates-pres-trump/
Clinton’s sock drawer keeps popping up as a challenging precedent for the prosecutor to get around in order to make a conviction.
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Christie should abandon donuts.
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The pra is vague. It defers a lot to the ex potus and can only be changed by act of congress. If congress wants to make changes to it go ahead.
The socks case is not binding on the Florida court.
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Are you serious, Bitter?
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The socks case and pra trumps the espionage act.
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This attorney raises some interesting issues.
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Leo Donofrio, Esq.
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“a person would have authorized possession if he had an appropriate security clearance and if he gained access to the document because it was necessary to the performance of his official duties”
Trump “gained access” as POTUS. Are you an attorney? This is precedent not opinion.
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He argues here why 793(e) of espionage or whatever the cite is, does not apply to one who gets access.
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Bl I did not realize that the poll results are highlighted here in your blog. Way to go. You have updated Hhr.
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(I am referring to the scribd portion)
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Pra also says any disputes between archives and president must be resolved civilly. No criminal action.
I don’t know how they get around that. It’s clear.
You may not like the act but it is what it is.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12178881/FBI-agent-charge-Trump-Mar-Lago-raid-said-strong-concerns-operation.html
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Tina, there are so many incidents and precedents where similar collections and conversations, regarding classified docs, have occurred without a peep of being criminally charged. This kind of prosecutorial persecution, though, goes way beyond the current day legal tools being used to rid the national stage of a Trump presidency. In fact he is a mere bit player in a much larger scheme to have absolute control by one party over who is or is not elected to the WH.
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Just remember when Dems complain that Republicans have been investigating Hunter Biden and Biden-family pay-to-play scandal for 5 years, Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevsky told the CHS it would take people 10 years to unravel the complicated web used to get Joe the money.
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It’s too bad our focus can’t be on a more egregious crime of selling out your country for money, like Biden and his family have done. Instead, it’s all about “look at the little bouncing ball of made-up charges over here!”
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Jim Trusty puts George Stephanopoulos in his place🔥👇🏻
“No person is BELOW the law…You have investigations in Delaware that are a thousand times more serious by a President who has authorized his DOJ to try to sink the candidacy of his prime opposition while Biden has unsecured docs he stole out of a scif….marked classified, found in a garage near a corvette…1850 boxes…you have the ultimate unclean hands of a sitting President who had no declassification…”
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Most of that about Biden is lies, Jan. Trump is toast. Get over it.
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Whataboutism will not win elections. That is the bargaining stage of the grief cycle.
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Faux News legal eagles all think case can be made to convict Trump. GOWDY, Turley, Barr and MCCARTHY. They all seemed pretty confident. I trust them more than the Twitter lawyers.
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All I have heard from Trumps legal team today are Whataboutism arguments which is not good for Trump.
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JeffP. – Turkey’s opinion is the only one that matters to me, in that grouping from Fox you posted.
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Trivia..Do you know who gave Epstein his first teaching job? Bill Barrs father.
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This may be too optimistic an assessment. It has been hard going for Ukraine having to push through Russia’s “hardened” defensive positions that the Russians spent months preparing, but they are now gaining ground. Some of the best Ukrainian units are being held in reserve. Meanwhile Russia has blown up another dam.
“If Ukrainians have really liberated Neskuchne, then the Russians are basically in full route as we speak.
They’re not far at all from cutting off the land bridge entirely at Sea of Azov.
This is moving rapidly right now.”
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Russian bloggers are raising concerns:
“RU milbloggers mocking the Russian command.
“A new term was introduced during the day. If the withdrawal from Kharkiv was called “regrouping” and from Kherson “taking more advantageous positions”, then the surrender of today’s territories was due to “being in a lowland”.
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“@GeopoliticalGu1
#Russian forces are confirmed to have destroyed a dam roughly 7km from the #Urozhaine frontline. The Staromlynivske Reservoir east of Klyuchove was breached by RuF in an attempt to slow down the offensive. RuF have been retreating encirclement”
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I will be voting for Christie in the 2024 PA primary because he supports continuing military aid to Ukraine.
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2024 National Republican Primary:
Trump 61% (+38)
DeSantis 23%
Pence 4%
T. Scott 4%
Haley 3%
Burgum 1%
Christie 1%
Elder 1%
Hutchinson 1%
Ramaswamy 1%
@YouGovAmerica/@CBSNewsPoll
586 LV, 6/7-10
https://cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-
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Watching a show on King Tut’s tomb. He died so young there was not enough time to make his Tom big enough. Thieves did not find it or, if they did, figured it was not worth the effort.
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My wife and I have agreed that we’d vote for Christie…. if it is between Christie and RFK jr.
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We split on Pence vs RFK jr. I went with Pence. She went with RFK jr. I think mostly because of Pence’s views on abortion.
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Yeah, Marv. The lifeboat is a Tgca free zone. That in itself makes it a good place to be.
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2024 National Republican Primary, Consider supporting/Not consider:
Trump 75%/14% (+61)
DeSantis 51%/27% (+24)
T. Scott 21%/42% (-21)
Haley 15%/57% (-42)
Ramaswamy 13%/56% (-43)
Pence 16%/60% (-44)
Elder 9%/61% (-52)
Hutchinson 6%/73% (-67)
Burgum 4%/73% (-69)
Christie 7%/79% (-72)
@YouGovAmerica/@CBSNewsPoll
586 LV, 6/7-10
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Romney’s polling in Utah has tanked. This a pollster that is favorable to Romney:
“According to the latest Deseret News/Hinckley Institute of Politics poll, 41% of Utah voters say they approve of Sen. Mitt Romney’s performance while 49% say they disapprove and 10% of voters say they don’t know.
The approval percentage is down 11 points since March, when a Deseret News/Hinckley Institute of Politics poll showed that 52% of Utah voters either strongly approved or somewhat approved of Romney’s performance.
Romney, who is still weighing whether he should run for a second term in the U.S. Senate, struggled among Republican voters in the latest poll, with 51% saying they strongly or somewhat disapprove of his performance”
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“Gerashchenko,…
Russian propagandists continue asking what will happen if Russia doesn’t win. What could be the options of a “peace plan?”
A very important change in their rhetoric”
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Trump needs to suspend his campaign for the good of this country.
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Trump being the focal point and used as controlled opposition will give us at least 4 more years of Woke Commie Dem rule.
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I agree. Trump has too much baggage at this point. The Republicans need a new face — and I believe it should be DeSantis.
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Hopefully, he can improve on this. Also, why does daily mail get all of the juicy stories/pics?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12183709/Awkward-Ron-DeSantis-told-advisers-SMILE.html
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I wonder if he has Asperger’s?
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Whataboutism won’t win elections and winning elections is the only thing that can address the corruption.
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The Daily Mail has the best coverage of American politics.
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Agree
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Plus they document all the falls and mistakes of Biden that are not reported here.
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Sorry, who has it?
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I continue to like Vivek. Not saying he is presidential or vp material. Wouls be good in an r admin though.
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Yet presidential or vp material*
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Fauxs cease and desist letter against Tucker is stupid.
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Harmeet K. Dhillon
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For all the friends who have been asking “why don’t we see you on Fox anymore?” — This is why. I am passionately committed to free speech and a free flow of information necessary for a free society. Until Fox stops trying to silence Tucker, it’s not a place for me. And I feel for my friends working at the network which has clearly caved into pressure from some quarter to silence
@TuckerCarlson
. What you are seeing on Fox today is a censored version of the news. Keep that in mind as you make your viewing and your commenting choices.
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Faux is cnn light.
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I am really impressed by this woman. Too bad she is not leading the GOP they could use her.
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They are a regular click for me.
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DeSantis
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I would have fired Tucker as soon as his pro-Russia rants were played on Russian tv.
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DeSantis’s wife is running his day-to-day campaign, including instructing him how to talk.
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80 percent believe the box dox indictment is political.
Geraldine Rivera indicates that it’s horse sheot.
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We gain Geraldine empty vault. Not sure how I now feel about this.
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Tucker’s show was not pro-Russian in taking sides. However, he did take into consideration the degree of corruption that streamed through the politics of that country, which is why Tucker was not head over heels for engaging in an expensive proxy war with Russia. In fact Ukraine is considered the 3rd most corrupt country in the world – even superseding Russia.
Finally there has been no real audit of where all the Ukrainian funding is going. Is it being spent on helping the Ukrainian people or going into the pockets of Ukrainian oligarchs and Zelensky. In a first hand account my son’s friend was part of a mission taking goods over to Ukraine, to be distributed directly to the people — bypassing the government as they could not be trusted. His observations speak a different story than what is being reported by the legacy news media.
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Jan – Stop. Just stop. Tucker said on his show he wanted Russia to win. How is that not Pro-Putin? You hide behind the issue of audits? Fine, what was the result of the most recent audit of US funds to Israel? Taiwan? Any other nation? Oh. You don’t know and don’t care to find out because you are fine with a Russian victory. Just say it. You are intelligent so just own what you want to say.
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LOL
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2024 National Republican Primary, Consider supporting/Not consider:
Trump 75%/14% (+61)
DeSantis 51%/27% (+24)
T. Scott 21%/42% (-21)
Haley 15%/57% (-42)
15% of Rs would consider supporting “You must feel my pain” Haley?
Sad.
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Bitter, I never heard Tucker advocating for Russia. However, I also did not tune into his show on a regular basis. Nonetheless, Ukraine ‘s issues are too complicated and too long-standing to be blindly funded indefinitely. The fact that one would chose a candidate, purely because they verbalized continued Ukraine support, seems a very myopic way to select a future leader for this country.
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Was able to see my post after 12 minutes.
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My daughter works in our state AG office and coordinates with other Red state AG and Governor offices almost daily. She has assured me that DeSantis has a great team around him. His wife I am sure helps him immensely like every awesome wife would but is not directly involved in day to day. Be careful what you read.
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Also everyone in her office including the AG is supporting DeSantis.
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Your good!
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Jan, There are clearly differences of viewpoints on Ukraine. I am with Bitterlaw and Jason and others on this one. I think Ukraine invasion is as big a deal as Germany invading Poland in 1939. If we choose to turn away and let it happen, we will only be allowing a problem to grow that we will eventually be confronting. And that growing problem is both Russia and China thinking that we are entering a new nationalist phase when larger countries can simply invade their neighbors without repurcusions.
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Weird. You don’t get any error messages or login again messages?
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Also … I check the box to stay logged in.
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As for audits, I am fine with auditing any and all countries we send money to. How else can we see how the money is being spent? This is especially important, though, when our money is escalating a war, supposedly paying pensions and salaries of another country’s employees, with rumors flying around that the leader (Zelensky) is enriching himself and hiding the Burisma/Biden scandal as a way to keep the U.S. support coming indefinitely.
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He said it. Why do you think his anti-Ukraine/Pro-Putin comments were repeated night after night on Russian TV. In the primary, most candidates will agree on most issues. I think that an expansionist Russia is a vital threat to US interests. So far, Christie stepped up advocates the same viewpoint.
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Paul, like most issues, there are usually multiple sides in assessing them. Probably there are pieces of validity embedded in each side. However, it’s the emphasis each of us place on why our deep involvement with Ukraine is good or bad. I see the merit in your explanation. However, I also see pitfalls in not considering the corruption inherent (for a long time) in the Ukrainian government, and not putting the brakes on sending unaccountable billions of dollars over there when our own country is in such a fiscal mess.
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I just watched that. It is classic whataboutism. It sounds good and it’s true. But it’s fruitless in winning elections and changing the swamp. Not to mention it puts the GOP on defense in supporting and defending Trump. Which is why he resorted to flipping it back on her.
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Vivek is great. He is the one that taught me about ESG and it’s evils.
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UTAH: Mitt Romney’s net approval rating has decreased by 16 points since March (approve/disapprove)
March: 52/44 (net +8)
May/June: 41/49 (net -8)
51% of Utahns don’t want Mitt Romney to run for re-election in 2024.
Hinckley Institute | 05/22-06/01
https://deseret.com/2023/6/11/23749782/mitt-romney-poll-approval-rating?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=dn-social&utm_campaign=twitter&utm_content=deseretnews
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Jan,
I appreciate your viewpoint. I come from an anabaptist “Amish Adjacent” church background that believed that “All War is Sin”. I don’t go that far. But, I have some concerns about the military complex and the many US wars. For example: I thought the second Iraq war was completely unnecessary and wrong from the beginning. However, I feel that there is a need to stand up to large nations who arbitrarily invade neighboring nations. To me, that is clearer in the Ukraine than in most previous wars. The first Iraq War was also a clear international boundary invasion as well.
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I agree with you Jeff.
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On the one laptop that I’m logged in to WordPress, everything works instantly. But on my other computer it makes me go through hoops and isn’t instantaneous …… just in case that helps at all.
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My thinking has been that the Ukraine needs to regain a big chunk of land (Zaporizhzhia and Kherson and maybe some Crimea, Donbass area) to bring Russia to the negotiation table. Until that point, whatever Peace plan occurs will be very bad for Ukraine and leave Russia in a position to take everything along the Black Sea in about a year or so.
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Flynn case to remain in Florida. This is his lawsuit against the deep state.
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Walt’s friend Annie Septic came over and I overheard them talking about the political scene. Walt said he was thrilled that Hillary was not elected president in 2016 but was not thrilled that Trump was President. HIllary losing? THAT was delicious. While Walt was happy that Trump election prevented Hillary from getting POTUS, he explained his long list of reasons why he felt Trump was a bad choice to be President. But Trump won because more people hated and distrusted Hillary than the number of people who at that time hated or distrusted Trump.
Walt said as president, Trump made numerous unforced errors. Trump got the job, and then took many stupid steps (and tweets and running off at the mouth reasons to cause people to dislike him. And the voters took it out on Trump in 2018 and 2020 and in 2022 as the Dems/MSM continued to beat up Trump and highlight his missteps. Trump continued the unforced errors of bad judgement continued after Nov. 2020 and continued to do so when he was no longer in office. The Ds are licking their chops at the prospect of Trump leading the R ticket in 2024 so they can just focus on Trump and issues with Trump, not the NATIONAL issues–and BEAT TRUMP AND THE Rs AGAIN FOR A 4TH FRIGGIN’ TIME IN A ROW.
The reason the weaponized DOJ/FBI went after Trump in 2016 had nothing to do with their dislike of Trump. It was all about their wanting Hillary to win in 2016. Bugging Trump, investigating Trump, moles planted, baseless Russia collusion charges, etc., etc.
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Many Rs do not get that the conservative (sane) movement is bigger than Trump. If Trump suddenly was captured and beamed up by aliens, or suddenly died from a heart attack, or from being hit by a bus, the conservative (sane) movement would continue. The Rs would pick others to lead the charge. Others who do not have all the Trump baggage (both self-inflicted and inflicted by his political enemies including the deep state).
WITH OR WITHOUT all the legal entanglements/multiple lawsuits, etc. Trump WOULD STILL LOSE TO BIDEN AGAIN IN 2024. He is UNELECTABLE today. Many Rs see that. Many do not. Those who do not think Trump is unelectable–as tarnished as he is due to his own very visible and real faults as a person and as a leader–foolishly and non-factually feel Trump is the only hope to regain the white house. Instead, these Rs fail to see that the BEST WAY to guarantee befuddle buffoon Biden to win reelection is to NOMINATE Trump for 2024.
Then the Ds don’t have to defend their positions. All they have to do is shine the light on the faults of Trump.
WHY DO YOU THINK THE DEMS/LIB NUTJOBS/MSM WORK SO HARD TO ELEVATE TRUMP AS THE FAVORITE CANDIDATE ON THE R SIDE?
If Trump suddenly disappeared, their biggest foil would be gone.
If Trump wanted to help defeat Biden in 2024, then he should step aside and drop out of the 2024 race today.
But he won’t.
Because he is stupid and thinks it is all about him.
I do not want another 4 years of insanity under D rule in the U.S.
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Biden what phone calls.
Chia pet: 17 perfect phone calls.
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BREAKING! WHOA! Grassley floor speech: Foreign national allegedly has audio recordings. 17!! 15 audio between him and Hunter & 2 audio with him and then VP Joe Biden. Kept as insurance policy!
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No clue why Bondo Barr dumped the bribe allegations to Delaware. He should have appointed a SP. Unless he hoped it would die with the fib protectors?
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Hi Folks,
I am particularly busy today, but I stopped by to view the thread. This is the best one, so far, since Bitter started the site. It’s nice to see lively and substantive discussions, as well as polling date. I see the site is picking up traffic. Way to go guys and gals. Nice job bitter!
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*polling data.
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If anyone is interested there is a three part series on the Trump MAL indictments by Andrew McCarthy on National Review.
I am not going to opine on it but I would definitely give it read. It puts the all the spin and legal issues in perspective and it’s not good for Trump. All the whataboutism in the world isn’t going to matter one lick. I am sure you can find it.
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I wonder if they have the audio…
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I don’t think Joe going to be able to run for President. He is getting worse the last few weeks. Here comes Newsome.
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Nuissance is in reserve. Notice he was on pawn Hannitys program recently.
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“Trump Names Hunter Biden As His Running Mate So DOJ Will Stop Investigating Him”
BB
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I saw that and was thinking here we go Newsome 2024.
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If McCarthy legal analysis is accurate any good lawyer would seek a plea deal. I also saw Nikki Haley flipped on Trumps MAL indictments today.
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Joe Biden Favorable Rating:
Favorable 31%
Unfavorable 52%
@Ipsos/@ABC
910 Adults, 6/9-10
https://ipsos.com/en-us/abc-news-ipsos-trump-federal-indictment
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Donald Trump Favorable Rating:
Favorable 31%
Unfavorable 56%
@Ipsos/@ABC
910 Adults, 6/9-10
https://ipsos.com/en-us/abc-news-ipsos-trump-federal-indictment
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Joe Biden Favorable Rating:
Favorable 31%
Unfavorable 52%
@Ipsos/@ABC
910 Adults, 6/9-10
Donald Trump Favorable Rating:
Favorable 31%
Unfavorable 56%
@Ipsos/@ABC910 Adults, 6/9-10
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Ukranian and Russian grift.
Harmeet K. Dhillon
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EXCLUSIVE: Burisma Founder Mykola Zlochevsky, Who Allegedly Bribed Joe and Hunter Biden, Is an SVR Asset – RedState https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2023/06/12/exclusive-burisma-founder-mykola-zlochevsky-who-allegedly-bribed-joe-and-hunter-biden-is-an-svr-asset-n760320
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I don’t think Trump is getting out of this one.
“Mick Mulvaney, director of the Office of Management and Budget, listens to questions during a briefing at the White House on January 20, 2018, in Washington, D.C. Mulvaney, the former chief of staff under Donald Trump, said on Monday that the former president’s chances of facing jail time after being federally indicted “are pretty high.””
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“Among the numerous criminal charges approved by a federal grand jury are 31 counts of willfully retaining documents containing national defense information in violation of the Espionage Act, including “information regarding defense and weapons capabilities of both the United States and foreign countries; United States nuclear programs; potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its Allies to military attack; and plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attack.””
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Several months ago I posted on HHR about how the use of funds for Ukraine are audited and accounted for by the U.S. and NATO. It’s a fairly detailed process.
Can someone point to a specific instance of the misappropriation of funds sent Ukraine to fight Russia? I am talking about providing specific facts.
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To use the word the Biden AG crosses the Rubicon has been crossed in this prosecution it is not hyperbole.
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Biden promised “I’m making sure [Trump], under legitimate efforts of our Constitution, does not become the next President again.”
– Joe Biden, 11/9/22
All the whataboutism I am hearing regarding 2 tiered justice isn’t going to make one iota of a difference. Trump is in serious legal peril. There will be no consequences for this corruption until they are removed from office. They won’t be removed from office without securing elections.
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Californians do not support Newsom running for president. Let’s not forget Newsom past affair with a married staff member, and his periodic issues with alcohol. Californians tolerate him, but do not like him.
His recent re-election numbers were lackluster given how strongly Democratic California is now. Plus, he might be running against a former California Senator who is a black female. How horribly insensitive for Newsom to flaunt his white privilege so brazenly.
“Most California voters do not want Gov. Gavin Newsom to run for president in 2024, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday.
The poll — which surveyed 1,091 self-identified registered voters in the state over the past week — found that 70% don’t want the Democratic governor to seek higher office in the upcoming presidential contest, while just 22% said they do.
The numbers are especially damning when you break them down by party affiliation. Only 35% of Democratic voters said they’d like to see Newsom run for president, while a whopping 54% said they wouldn’t. Meanwhile, the sentiment among Republican voters isn’t surprising: 90% said they wouldn’t want to see Newsom make a bid for the White House.”
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Trump needs to be nice to Ron DeSantis as Trump will likely be asking for a pardon from him in the future. Trump appears to be at the point of having that ah-oh moment where he realizes he may be soon be in deep tapioca legally.
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2024 National Republican Primary,
RCP Average:
Trump 55.6% (+33)
DeSantis 22.6%
Pence 4.6%
Haley 3.8%
T. Scott 2.6%
Ramaswamy 1.8%
Christie 1.2%
Burgum 1.0%
Youngkin 1.0%
Hutchinson 0.6%
Elder 0.4%
2024 National Republican Primary,
@FiveThirtyEight, Average:
Trump 54.7% (+33.2)
DeSantis 21.5%
Pence 5.3%
Haley 4.3%
Ramaswamy 2.9%
T. Scott 2.5%
Hutchinson 0.8%
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It should be noted the Biden bribe was paid to get him to stop a Ukrainian prosecutor’s anti-corruption investigation of Burisma, where his son was on the board. Vice President Biden personally traveled to Ukraine and issued them an ultimatum to fire the prosecutor. Given these events, it seems a little hypocritical to point fingers at Ukraine and call them corrupt. Perhaps the focus should be on the Obama/Clinton/Biden clique and their Chicago style politics:
“A paid informant told the FBI that an executive from the Ukrainian energy company Burisma has documents proving he bribed President Biden with $5 million while he was vice president.
The “trusted” and “highly credible” FBI informant said Burisma paid the bribe between 2015 and 2016 to solicit Mr. Biden‘s help in thwarting a Ukrainian prosecutor who was investigating the company, The Washington Times has confirmed. Mr. Biden was vice president at the time.
Burisma paid an additional $5 million to Hunter Biden, the president’s son, who served on the board at the time and received a $1 million annual salary at the energy company. The scheme was concealed using multiple bank accounts, according to the informant.”
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SDC – I defer to you on California politics. However, you know that if Newsom is the Dem nominee for President, he won’t have to spend $1 or 1 minute in California to win the state.
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Today, we become a banana republic. We cannot give any aid to anyone. We are turd world,now. They need to give us aid.
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Andy mcccarthy was to the Russian hoax. He and Bondo are largely unaware of the pra. However, there are a lot of constitutional remedies available.
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It may not be that they are unaware, they ignore or play dumb.
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I like Rds and would vote for him in the ge. However, he now under 20%. Yesterdays attack on sc judges was an error. Quibble with the 3 ( I don’t like Beotchy or Bushie, but they moved the court to the right. Polling is here:
Morning Consult
@MorningConsult
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Tracking the 2024 GOP Primary:
Trump: 59%
DeSantis: 19%
Pence: 8%
Scott: 4%
Haley: 3%
Ramaswamy: 3%
Christie: 2%
Hutchinson: 1%
Burgum: 0%
Someone Else: 1%
*June 9-11, 2023
https://morningconsult.biz/3OYzNlB
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Rasmussen Reports
@Rasmussen_Poll
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Mike Pence’s Favorability numbers are down to almost McConnell territory among Republicans (11% Very Fav. / 41% Tot.)
That’s down from 69% the last time we checked, in the summer of 2021.
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Simon Ateba
@simonateba
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JUST IN: @WhiteHouse @PressSec Karine Jean-Pierre says she can confirm ‘categorically’ that President @JoeBiden is not weaponizing the DOJ against @realDonaldTrump. He does that because “he wants to restore that independence of of the Department of Justice,” she added.
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We are really living in a political climate of smoke, mirrors and extreme bias supported by the legacy media, election donors, lawfare etc. During the indictment travesty no Republican candidates are coming out and denouncing this legal/illegal pile on — not to help Trump, but to take aim at the administrative state and the lopsided justice rapidly enveloping this country. The lone candidate who has broken the silence of the establishment Republican clan has been Vivek, who showed courage and defiance to buck such groupthink. According to Vivek donors are calling the shots and telling their candidates not to get involved with admonishing anything to do with these indictments. The same kind of threats are being directed at any attorney wiling to defend Trump from these charges. According to Dershowitz The 65 Project is heading the intimidation of lawyers.
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6 out of 10 voters can’t stand Pence – my very conservative husband being one of them.
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DeSantis’s comments on SCOTUS were surprisingly off-putting. His behavior in OK was off-center and awkward. His silence on the double standard being displayed, in the round of indictments against an ex-president of his own party, seems cowardly. Maybe that’s why DeSantis’s poll numbers are going south. Voters can sense inauthenticity and usually don’t like it.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/06/13/case-against-trump-irreparably-tainted-by-government-misconduct-says-ex-trump-defense-attorney/
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I https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/06/13/case-against-trump-irreparably-tainted-by-government-misconduct-says-ex-trump-defense-attorney/
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So will the Trump indictment(s) cause the 30-40% of the R base to blindly jump to Trumps defense and vote for him to give him the win in the R primary to guarantee Biden’s reelection in the GE n 2024?
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No bail, no jail, trump,walks out. The pedo prosecutor stared him down,
(Summation of reports from the alphabet channels)
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I cannot stand him. Guy was stupid with his remarks on j6. Shoukd have posted them thr night before .
Idiot gave a speech on 1/3 claiming something else. I believe he was in Georgia.
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It appears Putin is preparing Russia for eventual settlement talks. The fact the Crimea has lost its main source of water makes things even more difficult for Russia.
“Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned that his armed forces lack the military hardware they need to win the war in Ukraine, while insisting Moscow is ramping up weapons production to fill the gap.
Speaking Tuesday at a meeting of pro-war bloggers in the Kremlin, Putin acknowledged that “during the course of the special military operation, it has become clear there are shortages of many things — precision-guided munitions, communications equipment, aircraft, drones and so on.”
“We have them, but unfortunately we don’t have enough of them,” he said, according to state media. As well as drones, “modern anti-tank weapons are needed, and modern tanks are needed.””
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It appears Putin may be preparing Russia for future settlement talks. The fact the Crimea lost its main water source makes things worse for Putin:
“Russian President Vladimir Putin has warned that his armed forces lack the military hardware they need to win the war in Ukraine, while insisting Moscow is ramping up weapons production to fill the gap.
Speaking Tuesday at a meeting of pro-war bloggers in the Kremlin, Putin acknowledged that “during the course of the special military operation, it has become clear there are shortages of many things — precision-guided munitions, communications equipment, aircraft, drones and so on.”
“We have them, but unfortunately we don’t have enough of them,” he said, according to state media. As well as drones, “modern anti-tank weapons are needed, and modern tanks are needed.””
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Political Polls
@Politics_Polls
2024 Florida Republican Primary:
DeSantis 41%
Trump 41%
Pence 3%
Christie 2%
Ramaswamy 3%
Haley 2%
Elder 0%
Hutchinson 0%
T. Scott 0%
@SachsMediaGrp
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The goal is beat the Woke Commie Dems. The legal issues facing Trump and the time to litigate could take well past 2024. As time goes on and reality sinks in I just don’t see more than 25% of early primary voters sticking with him.
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Fox calls Biden wannabes dictator in a chron.
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Trump brought this upon himself. His real crime was being felony stupid:
“Mulvaney, who served as the acting White House chief of staff under Trump from January 2019 until March 2020, told the British right-wing media company GB News that the legal case against the former president is “strong.” Newsweek has reached out to Trump’s legal team for comment via email.”
“If Donald Trump had done what Joe Biden did here, what Mike Pence did here—when they found their classified documents, they gave them back,” he said on Monday. “And there are no charges against Pence, there’s not going to be charges against Biden. The difference here is what Trump did to try and cover up what he did in the first place.”
Mulvaney said: “As is so often the case, it’s not the underlying crime, it’s the interference, it’s the cover-up, that gets folks in trouble. And they have him with significant evidence, it looks like, as to obstruction. So I think that the chances of a guilty verdict are fairly high and the chances of real jail time are pretty high.”
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Wall Street Journal Opinion
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The Presidential Records Act allows the president to decide what records to return and what records to keep at the end of his presidency. And the National Archives and Records Administration can’t do anything about it, writes Michael Bekesha
https://on.wsj.com/3XcFAWL
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Wannabe dictator lost the wsj. Bondo Barr and other fakers know this. Gubment kens the records, but a president decides what are his personal records. Any thing he labels as a personal doc is his.
Too bad, too sad. Statute is clearly written
Case law (not binding to Florida) also concurs.
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Also, I have a feeling that the letters given to trump from mentally Ill were ones being falsely cited as national records or whatever lingo psycho euro socialist is arguing. However, trump gave those letters to a journalist in 2020.
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Espionage charges won’t stick here. It’s not applicable to a president or former president.
I also noted that one of the subpoenas is addressed to the “custodeon of records.” This is a gsa building (not trump individually). The subpoena is invalid. Also, I don’t think a suit between one federal agency and another federal agency is justiciable.
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Trump would have had access to the documents as president as a former president. He alone decides what is a personal record or what are presidential records. (Ownership has no say in this period).
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Document disputes have to be resolved civilly per the pra.
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Espionage act may also be unconstitutional. It was used by Woodrow Wilson to target his adversaries.
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A President can only declassify documents while in office, and a procedure must be followed which documents it took place. Even after he was out of office, if he had been cooperative and returned the documents, things would have been fine. But in Trump’s current state of semi-derangement, he decided to openly violate the law.
“That May, the FBI and Justice Department issued a subpoena for remaining classified documents in Trump’s possession. Investigators who went to visit the property weeks later to collect the records were given roughly three dozen documents and a sworn statement from Trump’s lawyers attesting that the requested information had been returned.
But that assertion turned out to be false. With a search warrant, federal officials returned to Mar-a-Lago in August 2022 and seized more than 33 boxes and containers totaling 11,000 documents from a storage room and an office, including 100 classified documents.
In all, roughly 300 documents with classification markings — including some at the top-secret level — have been recovered from Trump since he left office in January 2021”
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Mslsd dethroned Fox in viewership.
Great job Ryano and the demented owner.
Everything paolo touches turns to sheot.
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The May subpoena was issued not to him. It was. Essentially issued to a gsa building (mal.
Classification markings will still exist with documents unclasssified.
Even the lib-Rinos at the wsj indicate it’s a doc dispute.
A civil matter.
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Jack smith seems to lose cases. 8-0 loss before the us Supreme Court (Scalia had passed a2ay).
And this gem;
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The gubment owns the docs, but trump has a right to have the docs.
President decides what are his personal records.. it’s his call and his call alone.
That is the pra in a nutshell.
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The pra (newer statute) trumps Woodrow Wilson and the league of nobody’s. Espionage act.
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From Forbes today. George Patton would be proud:
“Ukrainian forces are advancing along three or four axes in southern Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia and Donetsk Oblasts. On the axis running along the Mokri Yaly River, the Ukrainians aren’t just advancing. They’re thundering.
Rolling fast along the unpaved road threading north to south from the town of Velyka Novosilka toward Makarivka, 10 miles away, the Ukrainian navy’s 35th Marine Brigade has borrowed a tactic from the U.S. Army.
In April 2003, early in the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, a battalion from the U.S. Army’s 3rd Infantry Divison combined 29 M-1 tanks, 14 M-2 fighting vehicles and several M-113 armored personnel carriers into an urban assault task force—and rolled straight into Baghdad days ahead of a planned multi-brigade coalition attack on the city.
Twenty years later, the Ukrainian 35th Marine Brigade is more than a week into its own prolonged thunder run along the Mokri Yaly River. In eight or nine days of hard fighting, the 2,000-person brigade has liberated several villages—most recently Makarivka, on Monday.
Speed and shock are key. The 35th Marine Brigade is fairly lightly equipped for a Ukrainian brigade, with dozens of ex-British Mastiff and ex-Turkish Kirpi armored trucks and around 10 gas-turbine T-80BV tanks. It’s how the brigade is using those vehicles that’s key to the unit’s swift advance.
With a T-80 near the front, a column of Mastiffs rolls down the dirt road that runs parallel to the Mokri Yaly River. The tank blasts, at close range, any Russian positions its three-person crew detects on either side of the road.
If the tank has to stop to fire its 125-millimeter main gun, it does so only briefly. The tank maintains the column’s momentum, leaving the 10-person Mastiffs with their .50-caliber machine guns to kill or scatter any startled Russians who survive the tank fire. Infantry then dismount and secure the area.”
Meanwhile some of Ukraine’s best forces are being held in reserve, ready to pour through any major breach in the Russian defensive line.
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Not a happy commie camper:
“@Panagioyio
a big thank you to all the ukr-natsis that are dying for the usa-Empire, victory for the ukr-natsis is around the corner……..god bless the usa-military industrial complex.
give ukr-natsis: f-35, aircraft carriers, usa-troops: NOW
This message brought to by Raytheon.”
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That’s Trumps hope. His defense team will make that case to the judge immediately. I wouldn’t bet the rest of my life in jail on it. Unfortunately I am pretty sure SCOTUS would have to decide that after appeals and that could a couple years. I think its a long shot though. You still have the process crimes. Trumps having difficulty finding lawyers. The whole thing is insane and makes me sick. He needs to suspend his campaign but he won’t. Which is exactly what the Woke Commie Dems want. Even if convicted I doubt Trump ever sees jail with appeals and his age. I am looking forward to talking to my daughter and future son in law about the case.
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I like that this format lets us see content without clicking on links first.
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There are at least six or seven constitutional issues that will be raised first. It will be a long process. Heck, jury process will be quite long. I also don’t think that trumps legal team is complete.
There are issues with the subpoena (using office of Donald trump) on it.
The broad warrant from august.
Pra has no criminal component.
Again, gubment owns the document, but trump has a right to “have” the documents,
These charges will fall like dominoes.
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I accept Trump will fight to the end. He is being used as controlled opposition. If he decided to suspend his campaign the Woke Commie Dems and media would freak! That’s exactly their WORST NIGHTMARE. Tuckers insight last night and how people around manipulate Trump because of his ego is spot on. He finds delight in all the attention he gets. Lindsey Graham plays him like a fiddle. He will have to run on a record this time in the GOP primary and he is going to get it from all sides. He will never gain enough independent support to win a general. So we will see. I am exhausted by the political drama and need to take a break and chill until the debates or new developments.
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Me too.
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Last post for awhile. I am supporting Ron DeSantis because I think he is the best candidate to beat Biden, Harris or Newsom in 2024. It’s that simple. We will see if he can win the nomination.
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We all need to take a break from time to time. It won’t stop at trump. Rds is being investigated for kidnapping and illegally transporting illegals. It’s all bs. It won’t end until we do our own. lawfare. The ge bush approach won’t work.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/clintons-sock-drawer-and-trumps-indictment-documents-pra-personal-files-13986b28?st=48vf2r4r2nqtmnk&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
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Had to post this ad. Here is RDS a response to DOJ corruption.
https://twitter.com/nvrbackdown24/status/1668778020788740097?s=61&t=uLyKpWBwDwyCK292uUHCSA
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Good RDS ad. However, the “never back down” slogan used seems awfully familiar.
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Both Trump’s former Attorney General and former Chief of Staff says he is in serious legal trouble. Its all bad.
“Trump’s former attorney general, William Barr, told Fox News he was “shocked by the degree of sensitivity at these documents and how many there were.” Indeed, it is shocking.
Those classified documents “included information regarding defense and weapons capabilities of both the United States and foreign countries; United States nuclear programs; potential vulnerabilities of the United States and its allies to military attack; and plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attack,” the indictment says.
It further states that Trump showed these documents on two occasions to people without security clearance.
“The unauthorized disclosure of these classified documents could put at risk the national security of the United States, foreign relations, the safety of the United States military, and human sources and the continued viability of sensitive intelligence collection methods,” the indictment says.
With these kinds of things lying around in Florida, I can imagine U.S. allies would be reluctant to share information or cooperate on top secret security measures in the future.
Trump is not accused of selling or showing classified material to any foreign government, but the boxes were apparently easily accessible as the club “hosted more than 150 social events, including weddings, movie premieres and fundraisers that together drew tens of thousands of guests,” the indictment says.”
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https://www.realclearwire.com/articles/2023/06/13/exclusive_the_desantis_plan_to_wage_war_on_weaponized_doj.html
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I will put up a new thread for the weekend tomorrow. GFY
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I have long ago not cared about what Bill Barr says or thinks. Another Stockholm Syndrome victim
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Wow, that comment appeared as soon as I posted. You guys are screwed. I might make to the lifeboat after all.
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Whoops, the next comment did not appear. Never mind.
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The third post did what it usually does. As soon as you click send, you get buildings.
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@Hebro_Steele
You hear about how bad San Francisco is. I was filming a shot of my father , Shelby Steele, and in the ten minutes we were gone our SUV was broken into and nearly $15k of cameras stolen. Called 911 & they hung up twice.
Elon Musk
@elonmusk
Many Twitter employees feel unsafe coming to work in downtown SF and have had their car windows smashed.
They also got such a null response from the police that they rarely even bother reporting crimes anymore, because nothing happens.
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Were the boxes for your name and E-mail filled out in your second post? They will automatically erase after you send in a post. There is a save box for name and E-mail, but sometimes it does not work.
It takes some time to get used to the new site, so hang in there.
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“All aboard! Train leaving now from Los Angeles bound for Kenya. Stops at Midway, Manila, Malaysia, and the Maldives!”
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Tucker will address the wannabee dictator tonight
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Bondo Barr is an idiot. Why did he turn over the Biden corruption evidence to a Delaware prosecutor and not appt a special prosecutor.
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Glad you are here. Ignore the idiot on the other page.
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DW, in all sincerity, I’m glad you are here.
Bitterlaw: can you delete the post where I mistakenly included my email?
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Republicans Acknowledge Biden Bribe Audio Might Not Exist: Republicans are now openly admitting their Biden “bribe audio” could be completely made up. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI) says there’s a good chance their “informant” lacks all credibility. Rudy is now saying the “witness” with the “audio tapes” is likely dead.
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The Fake Person with the fake audio tapes was suicided by Hillary Clinton. Sad.
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Would you ever vote for a third party or an independent candidate?
Yes 44%
No 25%
@YouGovAmerica/@TheEconomist
1,500 Adults, 6/10-13
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I would be nice if the source and location of the tapes was verified, and a transcript was released:
“But speaking on a podcast Wednesday, Grassley admitted he doesn’t know whether or not the tapes are real.
“I’m oversight of the FBI,” the Iowa Republican said, referring to his work on the Senate Whistleblower Protection Caucus.
“I want to know [if] the FBI, are you doing your work? I want to see your work. Have you listened to these tapes? And if you haven’t, why haven’t you? In other words, do the tapes even exist?”
Grassley isn’t even the only Republican to acknowledge the tapes might not be real. Senator Ron Johnson told Fox News Thursday that “we don’t know” if the tapes exist. House Oversight Chair James Comer, who has led the charge against Biden, said Wednesday he doesn’t know if the recordings are “legit.”
And yet these tapes have been the basis for almost every accusation leveled against Biden this past week. Republicans are pushing a conspiracy first started by Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump that the Biden family accepted a $10 million bribe to remove former Ukrainian prosecutor Viktor Shokin in 2016 to stop a probe into Hunter Biden’s role at the oil company Burisma Holdings.”
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Actually this is what we do know about Biden and Burisma, and it is not pretty. Druggie Biden got a lot of money, and then now President Biden got the Ukrainian prosecutor fired. We don’t know if President Biden got any of the money that Hunter received, but there is definitely a stench emanating from the whole episode:
“Hunter Biden introduced his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, to a top executive at a Ukrainian energy firm less than a year before the elder Biden pressured government officials in Ukraine into firing a prosecutor who was investigating the company, according to emails obtained by The Post. The never-before-revealed meeting is mentioned in a message of appreciation that Vadym Pozharskyi, an adviser to the board of Burisma, allegedly sent Hunter Biden on April 17, 2015, about a year after Hunter joined the Burisma board at a reported salary of up to $50,000 a month. “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure,” the email reads. An earlier email from May 2014 also shows Pozharskyi, reportedly Burisma’s No. 3 exec, asking Hunter for “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf. The blockbuster correspondence — which flies in the face of Joe Biden’s claim that he’s “never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings” — is contained in a massive trove of data recovered from a laptop computer. The computer was dropped off at a repair shop in Biden’s home state of Delaware in April 2019, according to the store’s owner.”
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I think the chances of one or two third party candidates is very high. RFK Jr & Trump losses GOP are high probability.
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LOL Fan Club?!? I don’t trust politicians including the ones I support to be that invested…
Joe Budd, Founder of Club 45, the largest Donald Trump Fan Club in America, endorses Governor Ron DeSantis for President!
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You doxed yourself.
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Ron DeSantis is one of the most squeaky clean politicians I have ever seen. It’s breathtaking the depths Trump supporters go to lie and defame him and his wife because he didn’t kiss the ring.
The tactics are very much like the Clintons. Worse in some ways. The first one is …RDS is THE establishment candidate… that is ridiculous…RDS is running RIGHT of Trump on almost every issue! RDS a will get endorsements and finances from all wings of the GOP. Why? He is well liked and has the best chance to beat Biden and most astute donors realize this. That why they are dropping Trump left and right. In the next several months if I see Trump fan club propaganda talking points here I will expose it and bring receipts.
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Clinton had tapes that were interviews by Historian Taylor Branch. Hardly classified stuff, Tina. You can lie better than that, can’t you??
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I wonder which side does RFK jr take votes from? So far, Trump supporters are the only people I know who would vote for him.
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Biden
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The Biden wannabe dictator is worried about the turd party.
Right now, there is a poll showing that he and trump are neck and neck in Michigan. (44% each).
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EW HAMPSHIRE 2024: Trump holds 34-point lead for Republican Nomination
Trump — 47% (+34)
DeSantis — 13%
Christie — 9%
Pence — 5%
Haley — 3%
Ramaswamy — 3%
Scott — 3%
Undecided — 10%
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@IAPolls2022
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🇺🇲 2024 General Election – Michigan
(R) Trump: 44%
(D) Biden: 44%
Undecided: 12%
Fav/Unfav:
Trump: 34/57 (net -23)
Biden: 39/52 (-13)
Whitmer: 53/40 (+13)
EPIC-MRA | 600 LV | June 8-14
https://woodtv.com/news/elections/poll-majority-have-unfavorable-view-of-biden-and-trump/
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Rfk mentioned concerns that he has with the cia taking him out.
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I would vote for Rfk over the blob; Haley; or depends.
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You folks may want to read his six points. The box doc case is a wiseman hoax.special.
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Will was published here
https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/16/six-reasons-dojs-legal-case-against-trump-is-seriously-flawed/
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#3 is alarming. Technical grounds for tossing box doc hoax out.
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It could be SCOTUS BIG DECISION DAY.
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“The Biden Administration’s plan to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean, has drawn sharp criticism from leading scientists, the day after President Biden’s historic announcement. ‘The massive pilings needed to support the railroad, at an ocean depth of about 14,000 feet, on average, would displace an enormous amount of sea water, contributing to the already dangerous condition of sea-level rise. Biden’s plan would endanger coastal cities around the world,’ said Lance Lyde, geology professor at the State University of New York.”
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“President Biden’s original plan for the Railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean had called for a more southernly route, from Los Angeles south along the comparatively shallow East Pacific Rise, and then turning west just before the Tropic of Capricorn, where the shallow water continues nearly all the way to Samoa. This route would have allowed for a stop at the French Polynesian island Bora-bora. From Samoa, then Fiji, the water remains shallow all the way to New Guinea and Indonesia, leaving only the greater depths of the Indian Ocean to cross. This route could have saved 300,000,000,000 tons of concrete compared to the more direct deep Pacific Ocean route that was chosen.
But the original route was scrapped for the direct route when the Administration learned that the local Samoans needed for the labor crew in that part of the route were not unionized.”
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“One Administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, conceded that the Pacific-Indian Ocean route to Africa does beg the question, ‘Why not the Atlantic Ocean? The 1,500 miles between Brazil and the west coast of Africa, a much shorter ocean railroad crossing? The simple answer is all of Mr. Biden’s Asian ties. There is no cash to be had in either Latin America or in countries like Liberia or Sierra Leone. But in Asia, the cash flows directly to the Biden family, and there is a lot of it. In the coming days watch for the announcement of a railroad spur from Manila directly to Xiamen, China.’”
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“Biden snapped at a reporter who asked about the estimated 350 quadrillion needed for the trans Pacific-Indian Ocean railroad to Africa. The president said, ‘This is a bargin! I could have announced a railroad to Mars that probably would have cost ten times as much!’”
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Fav/Unfav:
Trump: 34/57 (net -23)
Biden: 39/52 (-13)
Yes, lets quickly put forward on the R side for POTUS the only person who has bigger negatives than Biden.
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2 new poles. Trump up plus 3 over the dictator.
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Which one is “dictator”?
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Ask your shrink.
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InteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
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🇺🇲 2024 Presidential Election Poll
(R) Trump: 45% (+6)
(D) Biden: 39%
(R) Trump: 47% (+7)
(D) Harris: 40%
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(R) DeSantis: 41% (+1)
(D) Biden: 40%
(R) DeSantis: 42% (+2)
(D) Harris: 40%
Harvard/Harris | 06/14-15 | 2,090 RV
Click to access HHP_June2023_KeyResults.pdf
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Three new poles out today in the presidential matchups.
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Alright, God save the Queen, man.
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Looks like that is is. The old HHR is now done, and the lifeboat here is pulling away from the mother ship as it rolls over on it’s side and disappears below the waves.
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The original HHR is now done.
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Has anyone checked yet to see if there was anyone who was about to testify against Biden and was on the doomed Titanic tourist submersible?
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I read one article that alleged that the submersible was controlled by a joystick pulled from a playstation, and it had lights bought at Camping World. As the old saying goes, the Sea is unforgiving. The Deep Sea is much more deadly.
The radical left is eager to get us to Mars, but we cannot seem to get people back and forth safely to the wreck of the Titanic.
Maybe Biden can propose a new railroad to the sunken Titanic.
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