The Hedgehog Report – Phoenix Edition

HHR lives! Sort of.

New Book:

2026 House Forecast

GOPDEM
Democrat +7214221

2026 Senate Forecast

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Gap+3.9+2.5+2+2+0.5+0.5+0.8+2.8+5+5.5
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***There are no “freepassers” here***

Close in Ohio

DW

According to Marist, that is if you understand where Marist is coming from.

OHIO

GOVERNOR
🟦 Acton: 50%
🟥 Ramaswamy: 44%
—
SENATE
🟥 Husted (i): 43%
🟦 Brown: 51%

Marist – 9/24-27; 1298 RV

But recall two years ago that Marist was horrible. In the race for POTUS, off 9 in Florida. Off 5 in Michigan, off 4 in PA and off 5 in Ohio. And Marist was off SIX in Brown’s favor in the 2024 election for U.S. Senate in Ohio, claiming Moreno 48 / Brown 50 when the final result was Moreno 50 / Brown 46.

And if you look at the 2024 polling, Moreno didn’t really grab a consistent lead in the polling until October.

MONTANA – Senate

🟥 Kurt Alme: 45%
⬜️ Seth Bodnar: 26%
🟦 Alani Bankhead: 19%

American Pulse Research | 9/19-24

And then Change Research-D is polling Florida like its the year 2000:

FLORIDA

GOVERNOR
🟦 David Jolly: 48%
🟥 Byron Donalds: 46%
—
SENATE
🟥 Ashley Moody (i): 48%
🟦 Angie Nixon: 47%

Change Research-D for @FreedomProjUSA

Finally a strange poll for the Dems to release, given the conventional wisdom is that they hold OH-9:

🟦 Kaptur 48%
🟥 Merrin 48%

DCCC Targeting and Analytics Department 9/22-23, 481 LV

Today’s Talking Point: Young voters yearning for communism have been duped into thinking capitalism has failed them, when in reality it’s the socialism that we already have that has failed them.

108 responses to “Close in Ohio”

  1. txphil1 Avatar
    txphil1

    Close in Ohio?

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  2. DW Avatar
    DW

    Yes, Phil, Ohio is close.

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  3. DW Avatar
    DW

    “But Hormuzzle is closed.

    Can Tina give us the link to Bizarro HHR where the Freepassers post?”

    I can, its RRHelections.com

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  4. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    That doesn’t look close to me.

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  5. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    Even if Marist is off by 5 Dems still win so I think that is a horrible poll for Rs.

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  6. DW Avatar
    DW

    Recent polling in Ohio’s US Senate race:

    Bowling Green: Brown+3
    Insider Advantage: Brown +5
    Trafalgar: Brown +3
    Quantus: Brown +1
    Rasmussen: Brown +3
    Marist: Brown +8

    TWO years ago in the same timespan of late August/September:

    Morning Consult: Brown +2
    Siena: Brown +4
    Bowling Green: Brown +4
    Marist: Brown +2
    Emerson: Brown +2
    Southern Cal Strategies: Brown +5
    Rasmussen: Brown +5

    But in the end Moreno won 50/46.

    So yes, despite Marist’s endless gaslighting, the OH senate race is close.

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  7. DW Avatar
    DW

    “That doesn’t look close to me.”

    Put your glasses on and look at Marist’s history. I predicted yesterday that this poll would be Brown +10. Not quite that bad at +8. But Quantus has a B grade from 2024 with only a slight skew to the Dems. They have it a 1 point race.

    Do you have any evidence that after years of gaslighting, Marist has now cleaned up its act and is putting out good polls?

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  8. retllaw Avatar
    retllaw

    For Bitter…

    The Shenandoah County School Board wants to leave the names of Confederate generals on two school buildings as the division appeals a federal judge’s decision finding that members violated students’ rights by reinstating the names.

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  9. DW Avatar
    DW

    https://nypost.com/2026/09/28/science/archaeologists-risked-their-lives-to-save-thousands-of-treasures-from-islamic-state/

    That’s the strategy of radical islam. Gain control of the world, and then destroy every last bit of historical evidence of every culture so that the children can be lied to and told that world history is nothing but radical islam.

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  10. retllaw Avatar
    retllaw

    Hauling Goofball around.

    bank

    drug store

    walgreens

    family dollar

    Mcdonalds

    t mobile

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  11. Bitterlaw Avatar
    Bitterlaw

    Walt – I will state my position again. I do not think that the traitorous Confederates should ever have been honored with statues or anything being named for them (forts, schools, roads, towns, etc). However, I also oppose taking down statues or renaming things. I am open to placing a sign that says “Traitor defending slavery” on the statues.

    There are no public statues of Rommel, Hitler, Mussolini, Yamamoto, or Tojo in America.

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  12. DW Avatar
    DW

    “There are no public statues of Rommel, Hitler, Mussolini, Yamamoto, or Tojo in America.”

    Wait until the Islam-o-communists take over our country. There will be statues of Muhammed, Stalin, Lenin, and Pol-Pot everywhere.

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  13. DW Avatar
    DW

    But again, if Marist is right and the Senate race is a blowout +8 for Brown, then why does the DCCC release a poll of OH-9 showing Kaptur tied and fighting for her political life? She should be winning easily if Marist is right.

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  14. retllaw Avatar
    retllaw

    NOW at a 2nd Family Dollar. First one was out of what Goofball wanted.

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  15. retllaw Avatar
    retllaw

    Goofball was in the hospital for 3 days last week…….

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  16. DW Avatar
    DW

    Walt, the conversation between Homer and Cash will continue tomorrow.

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  17. Bitterlaw Avatar
    Bitterlaw

    DW – Why complain? The Confederate traitors killed more Americans than those on your list.

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  18. DW Avatar
    DW

    I am a northerner Bitter. I smile every time I visit Fr. Monroe in Hampton, VA, as this is the only territory in Virginia (after its split with WV) that was never part of the confederacy. Its a great tour. You can visit the cell where they kept Jefferson Davis. And each morning when he woke up, the first thing he saw was a HUGE American flag on the end wall of his cell.

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  19. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    I heart Marist and change.

    -freepasser

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  20. retllaw Avatar
    retllaw

    OK.

    There is no way for a person who is voluntarily joined in marrage to leave the marriage if it turns out to be a bad relationship.

    There is no way for a congregation to leave the United Methodist Church once they join now, and also keep their property.

    There is no way for a state to leave the union once they join.

    The Civil War was 100% about slave states vs. Non slave states and the only issue was slavery…despite the fact that several states where slavery was legal joinded to North and wV was added as a state, allowing slavery to exist there, …

    Got it.

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  21. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    So there is not ONE poll showing Husted ahead of Brown.

    Don’t get me wrong, Husted is a great candidate and I hope he wins. Trump won OH by 500k votes and has been trending red, no way Husted is out of it.

    I just disagree with a thread headline calling the race close that features a poll showing him down by 8.

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  22. DW Avatar
    DW

    I am not, and did not say that Husted is going to win. He may or may not. I said the race is close, because it is. He is not down by 8. Marist has a long and well-documented history of gaslighting these races. Two years ago Moreno didn’t start getting any sort of consistent polling leads until October.

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  23. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    The Civil War was 100% about slave states vs. Non slave states”

    Walt could have stopped there.

    The revisionist theory that the Civil War was not about slavery is complete BS to me.

    “despite the fact that several states where slavery was legal joined to North and wV was added as a state, allowing slavery to exist there”

    That does not make the Civil War not about slavery. There were pro-slavery people in the North and there were anti-slavery people in the South.

    The truth:

    “The claim that the Civil War was not about slavery is a post-war revisionist narrative known as the “Lost Cause,” directly contradicted by Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens in his famous Cornerstone Speech of March 1861.

    The Revisionist Claim vs. Historical Reality

    • The “Lost Cause” Myth: Developed after the Confederacy’s defeat, this narrative claims the war was fought over abstract “states’ rights” or economic differences rather than slavery.
    • The Direct Contradiction: In his March 21, 1861, Cornerstone Speech delivered in Savannah, Georgia, Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens explicitly stated that the “cornerstone” of the new Confederate government rested “upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition”.
    • Primary Evidence: Secession ordinances and the Confederate Constitution itself explicitly protected and prioritized the institution of chattel slavery above all else, disproving the idea that slavery was secondary or incidental to the conflict.”

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  24. Bitterlaw Avatar
    Bitterlaw

    Apples and oranges, Walt. There are laws regarding marriage. Churches set their own rules. There was no legal means for a state to leave the Union. There still is not. The fact that some slave owning states remained loyal to the Union proves the Confederates were whiny bitches.

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  25. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    We have a long tradition at HHR that any polls negative to Rs are wrong.

    So I am glad DW is continuing that tradition by claiming a poll showing a R candidate down by 8 is “close”.

    As a traditionalist myself, I will approve this message.

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  26. DW Avatar
    DW

    I posted the poll jason. And I provided legitimate context to it. I am waiting for you to post evidence that Marist has straightened out their act. Its not just a bad poll here or there. They gaslight most every race they poll. Why not see this for what it is?

    Why did the DCCC release an OH-9 poll showing incumbent Kaptur tied with the Republican? This race is supposed to be a hold in a bad cycle for the GOP. There is no way Marist can be true and Kaptur tied at the same time.

    Quantus was actually a great pollster in 2024, and they have the race currently Brown +1.

    I am not going to come here and try to explain away every poll I don’t like. But I am also not going to pretend that Marist has no history of gaslighting either.

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  27. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    Also, the argument that the Civil War was about “economic issues” rather than slavery is completely misleading.

    Obviously, the South Southern slave owners wanted to keep slaves for economic reasons.

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  28. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    That’s fine DW, you have the power of the pen and you can put up any poll and headline you want.

    I completely disagree on pretending a -8 poll is “close”,

    Both can be true.

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  29. Tina Avatar
    Tina

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  30. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    The WSJ is months behind.

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  31. DW Avatar
    DW

    I am not pretending, I am calling out Marist for putting out garbage because that is their long established history. If this was an A rated or even B rated pollster saying Brown +8, I would agree its a disaster. But I learned long ago to not listen to people with a long history of lying. So its completely legitimate to point out that history.

    If there was a polling firm that was always +5 to +8 tilt to the GOP, and they said that Husted was up 4, I would discount it with the same cautions.

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  32. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    Cherry picking polls is a long standing HHR tradition.

    Polaris would be proud we have not abandoned it.

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  33. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    I am not pretending,”

    I think pretending a -8 poll is “close” is pretending.

    Feel free to disagree.

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  34. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    DW can talk himself blue in the face on how bad a pollster Marist is. I will probably agree 100%.

    But posting a poll where the R candidate is -8 and calling it “close”?

    Nah. As we use to say in TX, that dog won’t hunt.

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  35. DW Avatar
    DW

    Again, I am not cherry picking. If I was cherry picking polls, I wouldn’t have posted that one at all. I have posted it and provided a context that includes…

    a. This pollster has a long history of gaslighting for dems.

    b. Other recent polls of this race are nowhere Brown +8, and these other pollsters have a much better grade for accuracy.

    c. Polls of house races in Ohio are not compatible with such a large Brown lead, particularly the poll just released by the Dem congressional committee showing Kaptur only tied.

    d. I have also shown how the polling at the same time two years ago had this same candidate, Brown, leading by about as much in the polls only to lose to Moreno by 4 in the end.

    So I didn’t cherry pick. I posted the poll. Marist claims its Brown +8. That is their claim. I then posted why I believe this a lie, a false claim based on substantial evidence including their past history of lying to the electorate hoping to gain a self-fulfilling prophecy by discouraging their enemies (us) from getting out to vote.

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  36. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    This cannot be happening. Iran is Winning.

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  37. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    I don’t disagree with the analysis. I disagreed with the characterization.

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  38. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    KENNEDY: In fact, President Biden and/or his White House staff told General Garland to prosecute the president, didn’t they?

    SMITH: Again, I have no idea about that. What my job was—

    KENNEDY: You don’t know anything about that. Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy?

    SMITH: I do not.

    KENNEDY: How about the Easter Bunny?

    SMITH: I no longer believe in the Easter Bunny.

    KENNEDY: Do you think Jimmy Hoffa died of natural causes?

    SMITH: I do not.

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  39. DW Avatar
    DW

    And just like that…Baris shows up. The guy who has been down on the GOP all cycle because he hates the war. Claimed Massie was tied when he was down ten. So he just dropped an OHIO senate poll showing its a close race:

    BIG DATA

    Brown 46
    Husted 43

    9/25 – 9/27; 678 LV; 4.0 MoE

    Baris is still a hack that I don’t trust. But at least his poll of Ohio is in line with all of the others and not in line with Marist.

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  40. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    Russia has lost over 450k men in Ukraine, more than the combined US dead in WWII plus Korea or Vietnam.

    If it was not a one party police state with complete control of the media such heavy losses would have long ago toppled Putin.

    But Janzam and Tina are still talking about Zelensky’s (fake) yachts and “corruption in Ukraine”.

    https://www.csis.org/analysis/russian-blood-and-treasure-ballooning-costs-putins-war?utm_source=gemini

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  41. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    I agree that the Baris poll shows a close race.

    I don’t agree that the Marist poll shows a close race.

    Both can be true.

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  42. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    LOL

    NFL hoping a white player will eventually make it into the end zone to see “end racism” message.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/nfl-hoping-a-white-player-will-eventually-make-it-into-end-zone-to-see-end-racism-message

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  43. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    A Perry mason moment. Arrest him now. Don’t let him leave.

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  44. DW Avatar
    DW

    Putin is only 1/3 the way to Pol Pot’s numbers of slain Cambodians. But if he keeps at it, he can make it.

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  45. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    Btw, I see cute Da Bear cubs beat the adorable Eaglets.

    I am sorry that happened to Bitter.

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  46. txphil1 Avatar
    txphil1

    450,000 dead.

    Putin yawns. What a butcher.

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  47. DW Avatar
    DW

    Yeah, Pol Pot slaughtered at least 1.5 million of his people. He did this under the communist pretense that if you have too many mouths to feed, you just kill them to get rid of them.

    Putin and Pol Pot are in the same class.

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  48. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    If you add the estimated number of Ukrainian soldiers lost (150k) plus civilians Putin is now responsible for over 650k deaths.

    Thats ten stadiums holding 65k spectators each.

    At the beginning of the war the ratio of casualties Russia/Ukraine was about 2/1 (attacking forces sustain more casualties against defensive positions) but now with the drone warfare the Russians are losing an astounding 8 men to each Ukrainian.

    ecent studies from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) estimate that the overall casualty ratio has risen to roughly eight Russian casualties for every one Ukrainian loss (including killed, wounded, and missing).

    Casualties and Estimates

    • Total Russian Casualties: Estimates put total Russian losses (killed, wounded, and missing) at roughly 1.4 million, with deaths ranging between 400,000 and 450,000. Independent tracking by Mediazona and the BBC has verified nearly 259,000 individual Russian soldier deaths by name.
    • Total Ukrainian Casualties: Ukrainian force casualties are estimated between 525,000 and 625,000, with fatalities estimated between 125,000 and 150,000.

    Why the Ratio Changed

    • Earlier in the War: The ratio hovered closer to two or three Russian casualties for every one Ukrainian casualty.
    • Recent Shifts: The modern spike in Russian losses relative to Ukraine is attributed to widespread drone usage, advanced defensive fortifications, and Ukraine’s effective “kill zone” strategies around frontlines, contrasted with high-attrition Russian infantry assaults

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  49. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    Theranos Founder Elizabeth Holmes praises Trump.

    It’s over for the Dems.

    They are not happy.

    Note that Trump is now blamed for “numerous food recalls” (never happened during Dem administrations)

    “Disgraced Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes is praising President Donald Trump after securing an early release from prison amid her over 11-year sentence for fraud.

    “We are winning,” Holmes, 42, wrote via X on Friday, September 25, while quote-tweeting a promotional video made by Donald Trump’s administration, touting the commander-in-chief’s so-called wins amid a historic low approval rating, rising gas and diesel prices, an ongoing war in Iran and numerous food recalls.”

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  50. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    Lol

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  51. DW Avatar
    DW

    Iran’s IRGC has issued a 26-page long “letter to the American people.” (The letter includes a diatribe about the meaning of “Death to America,” which it claims is nothing more than “a prayer for the eradication of the diabolical ruling elite whose seat of power is the White House”)

    Did they feel that way about Obama when he was in the White house?

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  52. DW Avatar
    DW

    Iran’s first mistake here is thinking that average Americans would read a 26 page long letter. They way overestimated the American Educational system. Anything more that a three-bullet point slide and they will stop reading.

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  53. DW Avatar
    DW

    On page 23 of the letter, it seems we aren’t really the Great Satan, but what they really meant was that we are a Mediocre Satan, which isn’t really the same thing. And if we cooperate and agree to their demands, we will get upgraded to being only a Diabolical Demon.

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  54. GF Avatar
    GF

    A small qiubble; US deaths in WW2 alone were 413k.

    36.6k for Korea

    58.2k for Vietnam.

    So, about 508k for those three conflicts. Oddly, although we fought on the Western Front for about a year, we had a higher casualty/death rate during our brief Great War stint than WW2; 320 per day vice 303. Compounding that delta, our first sustained combat mission occured at the end of May in 1918, we occupied mostly quiet sectors until the big pushback after the German Spring offensive petered out in front of Paris. Once the real fighting started, our death rate skyrocketed to a riduculous 718 per day, not counting other non-fatal casualties.

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  55. DW Avatar
    DW

    In the OH governor’s race, GOP pessimist Baris has his big data poll at:

    Acton (D) 47
    Ramaswamy (R) 48

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  56. DW Avatar
    DW

    An update on my own spreadsheet tracking the generic ballot polling. Everyone included for recent polling its at Dem +7.7 but including only the pollsters with a substantial history in doing generic ballot polling its at 5.8. Not great, but hopefully will improve between now and the election.

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  57. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    A small qiubble; US deaths in WW2 alone were 413k.

    36.6k for Korea

    58.2k for Vietnam.

    So, about 508k for those three conflicts. “

    Your quibble is wrong.

    Read what I wrote.

    “Russia has lost over 450k men in Ukraine, more than the combined US dead in WWII plus Korea or Vietnam”

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  58. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    So now not only is Clancy not guilty by reasons of insanity, she is not even guilty at all, she didn’t even kill her kids.

    REDDINGTON: “THERE WAS NO INVESTIGATION” INTO WHO KILLED LINDSAY CLANCY’S CHILDREN While arguing Rule 25 today, Kevin Reddington told the judge there was “no investigation” into who actually killed Cora, Dawson and Callan”

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

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  59. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    So in the end, it does not matter if Clancy was crazy or not.

    An intruder came in after Clancy arranged to have her husband out on errands, strangled all the kids, then cut Clancy’s wrists and threw her out the window.

    Time to move on I guess.

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  60. DW Avatar
    DW

    that wasn’t even in question during the trial because she admitted killing them. I hope the attorney for the holdout juror can get this whacko defense attorney hit with witness intimidation among other charges.

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  61. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    I hope John Goggin comes back soon to apologize for not only suggesting Clancy killed her kids but also accusing her of being crazy.

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  62. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    because she admitted killing them”

    Testimony obtained under duress and coercion?

    Besides now they will claim she is crazy because she ADMITTED she killed her kids, not because she killed her kids.

    Its an evolving situation.

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  63. GF Avatar
    GF

    ”Your quibble is wrong.”

    Perhaps, but WW2 + Korea is 450k, and WW2 + Vietnam is about 471k. The first combo equals current Russian deaths (if we assume they’re being truthful; the Soviet Union hid the actual WW2 body count for decades), the latter combo slightly more.

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  64. GF Avatar
    GF

    FTR, I’ll bet that the current Russian dead number is understated.

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  65. DW Avatar
    DW

    Sen. John Kennedy on Jack Smith “He’s the kind of Washingtonian who would unplug your life support to charge his cellphone!” “I’m sure Jesus loves him. Everyone else who believes in the rule of law THINKS HE’S AN IDIOT.

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  66. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    Perhaps, but WW2 + Korea is 450k, and WW2 + Vietnam is about 471k.”

    Some A-holes are really picky, which I guess could be a good thing.

    I think if the Russians deaths are “about” 450K and you compare it to WWII +Korea (450k) or WWII + Vietnam (471k) you are close enough for government work.

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  67. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    Rumors are the search for the real killer in the Clancy murders might come up with the real killer of OJ’s wife and the real killer of Jeb’s candidacy.

    Stay tuned.

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  68. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    I don’t know what this Rino saw.

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  69. Tina Avatar
    Tina

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  70. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    not sure if posted. It’s from Boris who appears to do questionable/fraudulent poles

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  71. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    Another foreign Marxist judge or just Marxist judge is defeated.

    NBCNews

    BREAKING: Supreme Court allows Trump administration to continue deporting certain immigrants to “third countries” to which they have no previous connection.

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  72. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    it’s also the law. Only if the Marxist judge would just follow it.

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  73. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    Another foreign Marxist judge or just Marxist judge is defeated.”

    Damm.

    Is Tina admitting there is no difference between foreign born American judges and native born American judges.

    Could it be that foreign born US citizens are not inferior to US born American citizens?

    Dare I hope to be elevated from second class to first class citizen?

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  74. retllaw Avatar
    retllaw

    when wife and I took pur group tour to Canada, over 1/2 of the 48 aboard the bus came down sick.

    had a good friend from the legislature and her husband we t on a CRUISE to ew e gla d and Canada last week They BOTH CAME DOWN SICK.

    Other friends booksmed a cruise to New England, about the ti.w of the noreaster storm. The cruise ship a nounced themat the cruise will be g I ing to the carribean instead of New England due to the noreaster storm.

    of course everything clothes wise they packed was for cold New England.

    PS: I THINK THE Canadian government is targeting U.S. citizens who are tourists in retribution to Trumps foolishness regarding Canada.

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  75. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    We are down $16 since the $105 new high. Yet aaa only shows a 2 cent reduction in a Week. Big oil needs to be looked at. This should easily chop 40 cents off the price plus we are in winter blend mode. Boutique summer blends are done with. I get sniffy and pooty phuqin things up but still.

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  76. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    The freepasser is upset the illegals are being deported. Wanted amnestia

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  77. retllaw Avatar
    retllaw

    The United Methidist Church has churches worldwide, Africa, Asia, etc. The U.C churches in the. U.S. are duvided into 53 seperate conferences.Those churches in Africa and Asia were dead against changing the Book of Church Order to remove language saying homosexuality is a sin, openly gsy people couldn’t be ordained to be pastors or bishops heading various UMC conferences, and UMC churches could not perform same sex marriages in their churches.

    At the UMC General Conference in 2019, the UMC hierarchy attempt to remove all that language and it was voted down. The African and Asia churches representatives being heavily against such a move

    in 2022 when CROVID issues were still abounding, about 1/3 of the repressive ton the General Conference in the U. S. were not able to attend because they had bof trouble getting visas. So a new vote was held and the scrap any language that gays do not loke was narrowly passed. Vote was, let’s say, 541 for and 519 against. But majority rules and the change was made.

    So, many U.C congresgstions wanted to leave the UMC affiliation. The General Conference established a time limited path for congregations to leave. Must have at least 2/3 or more members vote to leave, and must pay that church’s share of unfunded ded pension liability for pastors, must pay the full 100% apportionment fornthe last 22 months to the UMC, and must pay an exit fee equal to some % of the value of all assets, cash in bank, investments, real and personal property owned by the local congregations. The % would be decided by EACH of the 53 UMC Conferences in the U.S.

    Some conferences said 0%, some 10%, and other % amounts up to 50% by the Baltimore/Washington UMC Coference (churches in this part of WV are in the B/W Conf.) and a couple other conferences

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  78. Tina Avatar
    Tina

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  79. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    I knew the freepassers would go epplestein Again. Nothing on affordability.

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  80. retllaw Avatar
    retllaw

    Will cost some churches over $1.5 MM to be allowed to leave the UMC denomination.

    churches had until Dec. 2024 (or was it 2025?) to complete the process to leave. BUT some UMC pastors refused to call for a vote on the congregation to vote either yes or no on disaffiliating from UMC.

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  81. Tina Avatar
    Tina

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  82. Bitterlaw Avatar
    Bitterlaw

    The freepasser is upset the illegals are being deported. Wanted amnestia

    Another lie by Tina.

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  83. Bitterlaw Avatar
    Bitterlaw

    I knew the freepassers would go epplestein Again. Nothing on affordability.

    Another lie by Tina since nobody posted that.

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  84. Tina Avatar
    Tina

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  85. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    Not sure if the same pole.

    REAKING: NEW TEXAS US SENATE poll 🔴 Ken Paxton: 48% (+3) 🔵 James Talarico: 45% KEEP THIS UP. Texas can stay red EASILY this November, and the massive war chest surge will keep impacting voters for the next 30+ days statewide That’s how Republicans hold the Senate! Pulse (R) | 9/24-27 | N=800LV

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    This woman and her boyfriend tortured and killed their co worker with a box cutter and a slab of asphalt and carved satanic symbols on her body. She is set to be executed in TN

    Look how many words NPR can put in one sentence to justify the crime.

    And of course

    “Pike does not deny her guilt, but her attorneys and supporters argue a death sentence is not appropriate for a crime committed at that age by a teen with untreated mental illness after a childhood of brutal sexual abuse and neglect.“

    But that was not enough.

    Pike was later diagnosed with bipolar disorder and post-traumatic stress disorder.“

    Prosecutors said Slemmer was lured to an abandoned steam plant near the University of Tennessee agricultural campus, where she was beaten, tortured and ultimately killed by Pike and Pike’s then-boyfriend.  

    Court documents show that the pair had a strained relationship, with Pike claiming that Slemmer had been “trying to get [her] boyfriend.” Pike confessed to the murder, admitting that she had slashed Slemmer’s throat several times, threw asphalt at her head and kept a piece of her skull as a souvenir, among other admissions.  

    But wait….

    Pike’s petition to the Supreme Court argued the state’s lethal injection protocol coupled with her medical conditions would cause her to suffer “extreme psychological torture when extracted from her cell and strapped to the execution gurney” in violation of her constitutional rights.  

    Her victim, of course, didn’t suffer any “psychological torture”……

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    Tina

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  88. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    Rs would hold the House with that poll.

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  89. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    I guess the Iranians still have enough gas for this..

    Iranian security forces have stepped up their presence in Tehran and other cities, with motorcycle patrols, checkpoints and forces positioned across major urban areas as authorities brace for possible unrest, multiple sources inside Iran told Fox News Digital.

    The security buildup comes as university students have returned to the streets in Tehran, protesting compulsory hijab rules, rising education costs and political repression, videos published in Iran International show.

    Sources inside Iran confirmed to Fox News Digital that motorcycle units have been operating across Tehran and other cities during events surrounding Iran’s annual “Sacred Defense Week,” while members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Basij and law enforcement have been positioned at major squares and other locations.”

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    Bitterlaw

    On Fox Business, Kelsey Grammer hosts a program about decisive battles in American history.

    My main issue is that Lee is presented as honorable.

    The main difference between Lee, Yamamoto, Tojo, Rommel, and Hitler is that only Lee violated his oath to the United States before killing Americans.

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  91. DW Avatar
    DW

    Harvard Harris was spot on in 2018 saying D+9 and it was D+8.6

    In 2022 they said GOP +6 and it was GOP +2.8

    In 2024 they said Dem +2 and it was GOP +2.7

    So they are as reliable and mainstream as any of them.

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    retllaw

    In U.S., students protest against govt mandatory and compulsory U.S.citizenship to vote .

    In Iran, students protest against govt mandatory and compulsory wearing of the hijab.

    Ironic.

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  94. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    If this pole is true (and the presidents approval is back up in Rasmussen), then trump hit on a winning issue. No wonder the generic looks better and the drats Evs look bad in Ohio.

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  95. Bitterlaw Avatar
    Bitterlaw

    I oppose giving people money since it is not explained how it is being paid for and sets a terrible precedent. Why won’t the next Dem President just promise $10,000 or $15,000 to buy support?

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  96. DW Avatar
    DW

    unless its a tax break…so it would exclude welfare recipients

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  97. Tina Avatar
    Tina

    I only support tax increases and breaks to illegals

    -freepasser

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    Tina

    lol

    @Polymarket

    JUST IN: Long-term unemployment in the U.S. is surging at a rate “unprecedented outside recessions,” with the average job search now taking more than 6 months. — Bloomberg

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  99. Bitterlaw Avatar
    Bitterlaw

    I only support tax increases and breaks to illegals

    Not what I said. I am calling it. Lying Tina wins HHR Clown of 2026.

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    J-hole

    Put me on the side of the 43% that oppose this gimmick.

    It is not surprising Trump would promise something like that without any means to pay for it.

    Remember, he is on record as saying deficits don’t matter, just print more money.

    But some people believe he is a conservative.

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  101. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

     Lying Tina wins HHR Clown of 2026″

    That title was already won by Janzam.

    But runner up is impressive too.

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  102. J-hole Avatar
    J-hole

    I don’t have a problem with Lee portrayed as honorable. I think people serve honorably on both sides of conflicts. Lee was on the wrong side on this war but his role was military, not political. He actually defined slavery as “evil”.

    Lee was paroled, signed an oath of allegiance after the war and requested his US citizenship be restored (it was, by President Ford in 1975).

    Lee is a remarkable historical figure and I oppose any attempt to cancel him.

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  103. Bitterlaw Avatar
    Bitterlaw

    I oppose any attempt to cancel him.

    Zzzzzzzz I did not attempt to cancel him. I reminded people that he was a traitor, defended a society intent on perpetuating slavery, and was responsible for hundreds of thousands of American deaths. The fact that Lee thought slavery was evil but still wanted it to continue in a victorious Confederacy makes his actions worse, not better.

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    Tina

    both free passers hate the idea. No surprise.

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    Tina

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  106. Bitterlaw Avatar
    Bitterlaw

    both free passers hate the idea. No surprise.

    Who is paying for it, Tina? The DOGE money or the tariffs? Zzzzzzzzzz

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  107. Bitterlaw Avatar
    Bitterlaw

    Tina wants Trump to send $5,000 checks to AOC, Sanders, the Squad and all Democrats, including Mamdani.

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  108. DW Avatar
    DW

    New Thread

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