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CNN, who has had a more balanced approach to the Clancy case than other cable outlets,”
LOL
“Balanced”
Translation: openly hostile to the prosecution and any suggestion criminals should face consequences for their crimes and victims should get justice.
You got as much balance from CNN on this case as you get balance on their coverage of Trump.
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this lone holdout juror might have been, what they call, a “stealth” juror with a built in bias and a hidden agenda.”
What? I think John Goggin is aiming for HHR Clown with that one, but sorry, Janzam already locked that in.
It is of course much more likely the 11 other jurors are the ones with bias and hidden agendas. It would be very difficult to convene a jury in MA that would be unbiased. Hold this trial in most places in Texas and she would get the death penalty she deserves.
They ignored the fact that NONE of the testimony of the psychiatrists that treated her indicated they deemed her insane or even psychotic, not to mention the prosecution experts that testified she knew right from wrong and was criminally responsible.
Insanity is not determined by pink clad demonstrators, paid political hacks, defense counsel, friends of the accused and CNN talking heads. There was absolute ZERO diagnosis or even suspicion of insanity prior to the murders that came up in trial. The only defense was that she was a victim of an uncaring society and therefore justified in committing murder. She was. crazy like a fox in her meticulous and researched planning on how she could kill the children.
Unfortunately this jury was not sequestered so it was subject to 24/7 bombardment suggesting this cold blooded monster who committed premeditated murder in the most cruel way possible was the victim rather than the perpetrator.
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How could you even remotely consider the insanity plea given this:
During Lindsay Clancy’s murder trial, multiple mental health professionals who treated her testified that they did not observe signs of psychosis or severe detachment from reality during their sessions prior to the January 2023 killings.
Testimony from Treating Clinicians
- Dr. Jennifer Tufts: Clancy’s outpatient provider for over a dozen sessions spanning five months testified that Clancy never displayed psychotic symptoms during their care. As reported by the BBC, “Jennifer Tufts, who treated Clancy during more than a dozen sessions over five months, testified that she had not shown signs of psychosis“.”
- Dr. Alia Goodheart: An inpatient psychiatrist who evaluated Clancy during a brief stay also stated she observed no psychotic behavior. As noted by ABC News, Dr. Goodheart testified, “I did not have any concerns about her safety or her risk for anybody else.”
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If we have reached the point where society approves of tricking a little boy into getting his privates cut off, forever sterlizing him, then why would anyone be bothered by giving this woman the death penalty?
If she wasn’t insane, she deservers the death penalty. If she was insane, then she is a danger to everyone around her as she could kill again in her insanity, so for the safety of society she should be put down.
That line of reasoning much more sensible than tricking boys into receiving what ancient empires only did to little boys captured from enemy cities after being victorious in battle.
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Dr. Saathoff testified that the details surrounding the tragedy did not align with a typical psychotic episode. He pointed out that Clancy had not previously reported auditory hallucinations before the day of the killings.
The Voice: He noted it was highly unusual for someone experiencing true psychosis to hear a command voice only one time, which then completely stopped once the act of strangulation was finished. “Is it typical for someone in psychosis to hear a voice only one time, never before and never after?” asked Plymouth Assistant District Attorney Jennifer Sprague. “No,” Saathoff repliedInconsistencies in Her Story: He pointed out multiple discrepancies regarding exactly when the alleged voice began and what it told her.
An “Unusual” Timeline: Dr. Saathoff noted that it is highly atypical for someone experiencing true psychosis to hear a severe command hallucination only on the exact day of the crime, with absolutely no occurrences before or after the event
The Command Content: Clancy claimed a male voice repeatedly told her, “This is your last chance. You have to kill your kids and then kill yourself,” Dr. Saathoff testified that the nature of this hallucination was highly unusual for genuine psychotic episodes.”‘This guys is senior psychiatrist to the FBI’s Academy’s Behavior Analysis Unit and forensic psychiatry professor at UVA for 18 years. Professor at University of Virginia School of Medicine who provides Teaching, Research, Clinical Care and Consultation within Federal and State Agencies.
Maybe John Goggin can explain why he would need to lie about his Clancy evaluation.
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If she wasn’t insane, she deservers the death penalty. If she was insane, then she is a danger to everyone around her as she could kill again in her insanity, so for the safety of society she should be put down.”
Perfect.
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If we have reached the point where society approves of tricking a little boy into getting his privates cut off, forever sterlizing him, “
It’s all the same society.
It’s the society where a demonstrably SANE woman carefully plans and executes the murder of her 3 little children and then has “supporters” chanting for her outside the courtroom.
It’s the same society that instead of seeking justice for the innocent victims, makes HER the victim instead.
It’s the same society that absolves her from any personal responsibility for her actions, and instead lays blame elsewhere. Her doctors, her drugs, her husband, etc. Everyone is at fault except the murderer herself.
It’s the same society people throw themselves at ICE vehicles, try to run over ICE agents, take guns to ICE protests, etc. to prevent illegal criminals from being deported.
Its the same society where women are committed to ensuring the “right” to kill a perfectly viable 9 month old fetus.
I could go on, but you get the picture.
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I don’t know if it was mentioned throughout the lengthy argy-bargy, but one thing we don’t see when men kill their children (or even the spouses) is groups of men showing up in the public square or worse, in the courtrooms themselves, in solidarity with the defendants. If anything, we show up to condemn them and offer to put a bullet between their eyes ourselves. Modern women show up to push for acquittal, and will happily (and illegally) intimidate jurors if given the opportunity. That’s the key difference between the actors in the broader discourse over this sad situation.
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Off topic, anyone here been to Memphis? It’s 100F today, and I don’t know if I feel like leaving my air conditioned hotel unless there is something really worthwhile to see. Memphis Belle has sadly been taken from the city and moved to the flight museum in Dayton, OH, so I’m short of options outside of consuming local bbq and spirits.
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Just looked up the definition of obsession…”fixation, mania, compulsion and preoccupation.” or just see what Jason writes at HHR.
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Put another way, imagine teaching English to some guy who grew up in a tribal setting and the guy had never heard of the United States or anything outside of his tribe.
So you teach him English, and teach him basics about the world in which he lives, and then you ask the guy the question.
Which of these two things would you believe goes on in the United States of America, supposedly the greatest country in the world:
a) Bad actors trick little boys into getting their privates cut off, and society approves of it.
b) People who are mentally insane and then kill others are put down for the safety of society.The guy is going to pick B, and be shocked to learn the answer is A.
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GF-or fan mail. According to her attorney Lindsay Clancy has received enough support letters and fan mail to fill three ‘banker boxes’.
Again, don’t support this.
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“For the safety of society she should be put down”
Just Lindsay Clancy or the other 10,000 (some reports have the number at close to 26,000) Americans who have been found not guilty by reason of insanity of murder?
Is this Nazi Germany?
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Nice to see Clancy has gotten so much fan mail. A victim and a hero all rolled into one.
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Jason, you can quote and cite testimonies from “experts” all you want but 95% of jury, according to Clancy’s attorney, didn’t buy it.
And here, you’re just ‘preaching to the choir’ to some here.
The trial is done and the state failed to make their case.
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Canada ..
Tv advertising says Burger King here has 8 pieces of chicken nuggets for $4.99.
Seinfeld is on at 4 p.m. and 4:30
It is an hour later here than eastern standard time.
We had a taxi driver from Libya. Been here since 2014. Nice fellow.
I asked him if the lake we were driving by was the one Trump renamed Lake America (knowing it was not, and he chuckled). I told him we all thought Trump was crazy.
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gallon of gas here is about $7.30
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John, my point wasn’t as much making the case that murderous insane people should be put down, but how that is a much more reasonable position than society celebrating the act of a bad actor tricking a boy into getting his privates cut off.
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Reports here that Paxton had no $$$ is not correct. See previous post.
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Walt tell the Canadians to phug off. They are deadbeats.
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Enjoy their job losses (41700 last month) as well as their 6.4% unemployment rate.
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Tina,
I exchange $60 in Trump money and got $81 in Canadian funny money.
1.35 exchange rate at hotel.
I found $22 in Canadian money at my home before we left on Vacation [money we brought back from previous trips to Canada].
$81+ $22 ought to be all my wife and I will need for 10 days in Canada.
{just kidding…}
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We plan to try and smuggle 100 rolls of Canadian toilet paper back to avoid the Trump tariffs.
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Canadian polls show huge support for Canada to hike tariffs on U.S. goods, and to boycott U.S. goods.
Also 6 Canadian B.C. conservatives have broken away from conservative party in BC and have now formed a new -party, as yet unnamed.
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Jason, you can quote and cite testimonies from “experts” all you want”
Yeah, why listen to them if the outcome is predetemined?
I agree.
Of course, you would think the testimoney of the psychiatrists that actually treated Clancy might be relevant, but nahhh…
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And here, you’re just ‘preaching to the choir’ to some here.”
LOL
Who are you preaching to?
Outside of Bitter, always on the fence, everyone else here thinks this woman is guilty as hell.
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Just looked up the definition of obsession…”fixation, mania, compulsion and preoccupation.” or just see what Jason writes at HHR.”
I will save this.
Might come in handy for an insanity defense some time.
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I said Clancy was a killer. Not sure if she meets the definition of insanity under Massachusetts law.
Jason acts like he watched every minute of the 7 week trial. I was not impressed with the expert witnesses of either side. I think the retrial will be much shorter with less evidence on the children. Less of their pajamas. Keep the autopsy photos of their necks. I suspect that the prosecution will not be giving Clancy as many chances to cry and need recesses when seeing photos of the victims and hearing about the autopsies. Maybe it was real. Maybe it wasn’t but it humanized her to those jurors wanting an excuse to find her human despite what she did.
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Jason hates people who actually analyze things.”
Jason despises false equivalencies.
Fixed it for Bitter.
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I am celebrating Labor Day with a pitcher of my world famous award winning (well, deserves to be award winning, GFYs) bloody Marys.
I needed something to wash down a huge breakfast of slab bacon, country ham, scrapple, cheese and mushroom omelet, and because I don’t want to offend the Amish, Amish cornbread with Amish butter.
No, it’s not too early for Bloody Marys. It’s 6AM in California, Tina is still dreaming of free passers frolicking across the fields.
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I suspect that the prosecution will not be giving Clancy as many chances to cry and need recesses when seeing photos of the victims and hearing about the autopsies. Maybe it was real. Maybe it wasn’t”
It was as real as Tina’s free passers.
Wow, Bitter called the children victims? Not props for the defense to show case how evil the society that MADE Clancy the poor victim kill her kids?
Baby steps, baby steps.
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I have always said the only victims were the children killed by their mother. I never said Clancy was a victim. GFY
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But I agree with Bitter that the prosecution should have learned a lot of lessons. Starting with only have 25% men on the jury.
And I think they need to make clearer to the jury what the insanity defense is about and what it isn’t about. They need to make clearer the fact this woman had zero history of insanity or psychosis despite having been evaluated by various doctors. They need to emphasize that “hearing voices that make you kill your children” as an isolated incident is highly unlikely.
The prosecution needs to keep the trial focused on the perpetrator and the victims. They let the trial become transformed whereby Clancy became the victim and society became the perpetrator. They also need to focus more on the premeditation and preparation aspect, which flies contrary to the “suddenly a voice told me to kill”. They need to show these murders were not a “psychotic moment” but a meticulously planned event.
Unfortunately, the other dynamics such as the woke location, woke judge, woke jury pool, woke coverage (which influences the jury) etc will still exist, so prediction of a free pass still stands.
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Jason calls things he does not understand false equivalencies.
Fixed it for Jason.”
It’s one of the reason I come here, there is so much to learn from other A-holes.
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I am celebrating Labor Day with a pitcher of my world famous award winning (well, deserves to be award winning, GFYs) bloody Marys.
Gayest post of the day.
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But he is not a conservative per the free passers
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2026/09/04/federal-workforce-down-11-2-since-trump-took-office/
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Halifax: after breakfast this morning, we explored the harbor boardwalk area.Very nice, lots to see, lots of shops and restaurants.
Local boys fishing off the boardwalk and bringing in a lot of mackerel. Almost no graffiti, no homeless people visible.
Friendly place.
This afternoon we visited Halifax Gardens. Possibly the last remaining Victorian garden left in the world. Very attractive flower beds and displays. Also lots of interesting old trees like gingko, English weeping beech, sun of a beech, etc.
Dinner this evening at 6… [7 p.m. Eastern standard east coast time].
Tomorrow the tour will visit the citadel and maritime museum
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NBC News now using SurveyMonkey for their polls.
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