According to MIRS/Mitchell Research 11/18 – 11/21, 616 LV, 3.7 MoE
 | MICHIGAN |
| Rogers | 42 |
| Stevens | 40 |
Same poll has Steven with edge for Dem primary: Stevens 27, McMorrow 24, El-Sayed 16.
Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
 | GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
122 responses to “GOP Edge in Michigan Senate Race”
According to the polling bros, trump is at 47% approval in Michigan. I think it’s this same polling firm?
Seperstrly, for a lame duck, he is sure powerful
He refuses to endorse mtg, she quits.
he juices turn out in last nights Tn race.
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At the end of the last thread, Tina posted:
Trumps last minute involvement was minimal. Thinking it was just a polling miss,
In this thread, Tina says Trump juiced turnout.
Which is it, Tina.
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Emerson is one of the better university pollsters, but they still have a couple point skew to the blue.
They missed the TN-7 race by almost 7, and a few more votes are still trickling in.
And again, even though Trump won the district by 20, the actual spread in the district as calculated by Charlie “Toupee” Cook, the district shakes out as GOP+10.
Van Epps won by 9. Very slight underperformance by the GOP, understandable given the amount of outside money the Dems spent on this race that normally would not be there in a regular race.
I had prepared a careful speech about the grave danger the GOP is in given a two point win in this race.
The crumpling of paper sound you hear is me throwing away that speech. The GOP did okay last night. But this means only that they need to fight harder than ever to try and hold the house next year. Trump needs to use the bully pulpit to push his achievements and inflation needs to drop and hold.
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Great summary, DW.
So, last night we saw the people of Nashville vote over 80% for a lunatic that is on record as hating Nashville. That’s a lot of leftists brainwashed by academia and the media. Although this administration is trying to take on these institutions , the effort needs to be quadrupled. If you want to get an idea of who voted for Behn, here’s a video of her typical voter. Watch it before eating or you may vomit –
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So it seems Jasmine Crockett is poised to run for senate in Texas. Polling shows she has the numbers to win the Dem primary. This is the loon who referred to wheelchair bound Gov. Abbott as “Governor Hot Wheels” –imagine if a Republican made fun of a wheelchair bound Democrat official.
Crockett has scheduled a special announcement for Monday, the day before the filing deadline.
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Good. She won’t win and she will be out of Congress.
Win-win.
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That’s great news. Paxton or Cornyn should easily beat her. If true, we won’t have to sweat a Paxton primary win as much.
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This is good news.
I think if Paxton win the primary he could be beaten by a moderate Dem in the GE. If Cornyn wins the seat is locked.
Fortunately, there won’t be any moderate Dems.
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Damm, great minds and weak minds think alike?
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Of course, I am the “great mind”.
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You’re a retarded mind – Oh not that shit again, LOl!
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Crockett will say a lot of stupid things during the campaign that can probably be used against Dems nationwide.
Another plus.
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Having MTG out of the limelight and Crockett in the limelight is a positive.
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Crockett is very low iq
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Actually she is highly educated and her accent is faked.
She went to prestigious private girl’s school (BusinessWeek Magazine and GreatSchools.net named Rosati-Kain the Top Parents’ Choice Private High School in the state of Missouri), has a business degree from Rhodes College and a JD from the University of Houston and passed the bar exam.
The problem is the shtick that got her elected so far in a black district and made her the darling of the MSM will NOT play out so well among the general population.
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I have updated the senate polling page (link above) to reflect all four possible combinations in Texas. Cornyn vs. Crockett, Cornyn vs. Talarico, and then Paxton against the same two Dems. I didn’t include the others because they are way behind in the polling of the party primaries.
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Will NOT play out so well.
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If Crockett gets 47% of the vote in TX as that one poll shows we might as well hang it up and embrace Marxism now.
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https://x.com/FBIDDBongino/status/1996205447917781326
Bonginos fib update/year end results
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I fixed it for you jason…a full service blog we run here.
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Behn: I called the congressman elect, Matt van Epps, and I had one question for him: What will define what happens next? Do not let the affordable care act subsidies expire. Do not raise healthcare costs for working families in Tennessee”
Reminds me of that “This is not the way it works” ad.
Losers don’t get to tell winners how to vote.
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Thanks DW.
But what did you fix?
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Ahh, I got it.
Thanks.
Need more coffee.
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Can we please just not mention anything about Nashville and Lexington KY…
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TN CD 7
has 14 counties
D nut job candidate wins the county Nashville is in big.
She is in the 30s% in two counties
!n 10 of these counties the D nut job woman’s % of vote total was in the 20s% (21-29%)
in one other county she only got 15% of the vote.
15% !!!!
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Dem candidates simply have no appeal outside the cities/metro area.
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This is good news.
Having “predicted it”, he now has a vested interest in making it happen.
Elon Musk
Musk predicts 2 Vance terms to succeed Trump in DOGE reunion Tesla CEO makes prediction during virtual appearance at DOGE cost-cutting team reunion”
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Dem candidates simply have no appeal outside the cities/metro area.”
The caveat is that the cities/metro areas have a lot of voters….
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Walt is trying to distract with his “woman in Lexington” stories so we don’t delve into his dalliances with Helen of Troy and Cleopatra.
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Behn: I called the congressman elect, Matt van Epps, and I had one question for him”
Wins both the Chutzpah AND Classless categories at the same time.
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This is the 2nd time (same case) she ruled improperly. The Marxist thinks she is now the Congress.
https://x.com/BasedMikeLee/status/1996056175532523761
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Congress appropriated no money.
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Good summary
“Hey, I know the people chose you, but do what I would have done if they’d have chosen me.”
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Behn must be a cousin of Polaris.
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jason,
Cleopatra was just a 7. Nowhere close to a 10.
She was not all that.
She just had certain “skills.”
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Here are Gandhi’s seven social sins. Interested in knowing the views of HHR posters on this.
Do you think, in general, Democrat or Republican policies and philosophy are guilty of committing and advancing any of these social sins?
Like DEI, the multi-generational welfare system, quota systems, reparations for Blacks, guaranteed wage or income for all, open borders, etc.
Examples? Go!
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“Mahatma Gandhi identified seven social sins in his 1925 newspaper Young India: wealth without work, pleasure without conscience, knowledge without character, commerce without morality, science without humanity, worship without sacrifice, and politics without principles. These “blunders” describe a society where people pursue activities without moral responsibility, conscience, or principles.
Updating this to 2025 [EXACTLY 100 YEARS LATER, what would YOU AD is a social sin?
MY THOUGHTS of additions are:
–manipulating the media to hide truth to get personal gain
–taking violent action to violate the law and destroy the constitutional rights of others because you feel some action is destroying the rights of some person or group
–acquiring taxpayer funds to fraudulently enrich yourself personally
–-inciting violence through continually describing those you oppose by using terms like fascist, racist, misogynist, homophobe, xenophobe, hater, etc. because on the facts, you are on the losing side of the argument
–believing, in any way shape or form, that the Biden presidency accomplished great and positive things for the U.S.
–voting for any Democrat, and actually believing they are a moderate who has your best interests at heart
What about adding something about saying you believe in and trust science, but also believe the non-scientific nonsense that there being 123 different sexes?
or
Believing in the right for women to control their bodies and abort their fetus child, but also believing that a parent has no right to be told or object that their 6 year old is being taught by the public schools that they are not the sex they were born as?
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What do YOU think???????
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Wealth without work: Gaining wealth through manipulation or without contributing any labor.
I would agree if the “manipulation” violated laws, involved corruption, etc.
But otherwise, NO. If a person works hard, accumulates wealth, and then passes that on to offspring who otherwise didn’t labor for it, good for them. I hope they know how blessed they are.
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Knowledge without character: Possessing knowledge but lacking the moral character to use it for good, making it potentially dangerous.
That describes Democrats from a couple of generations ago. Today’s Democrats don’t have to have knowledge OR moral character to be elected and exercise power over those who possess both.
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Putin Warns: Russia Is Ready If Europe Wants War
Um…Europe already HAS a war. Putin started it.
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Rasmussen had the generic ballot at +3 drat (down 1)
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Here is the list of Democratic Party candidates for the 2028 POTUS race. At least the list as it is today based on early polling samples already being run. Other and unexpected candidates may well join the race, but for now, here is the list of their champions:
Buttigieg – No career accomplishments, entirely a DEI candidate.
Newsom – Should be renamed “Nerosom” as he watched LA burn and did nothing.
Ocasio-Cortez – Bug-eyed loon of NYC.
Harris – Enough said.
Pritzker – This failed governor has no national appeal.
Sanders – What would he be? 112 years old or something?
Booker – No national appeal
Whitmer – Another failed governor.
Walz – A failed corrupt governor.
Shapiro – No way he would get the nomination of the party of antisemitism
Klobuchar – Got nowhere last time she tried
Beshear – Viewed as too moderate for the times and will get nowhere.
At this point its likely to be Newsom or Harris.
But I have lived a long time and followed many campaigns, and never before have I seen such a pathetic list of candidates. This bunch makes Al Gore, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, John Edwards, Dick Gephardt, Joe Lieberman, Howard Dean, and a few others who have run in the D primary look like giants.
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@IAPolls2022
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Big Data/@Peoples_Pundit Poll Generic Ballot
Democrats: 42.6%
Republicans: 41.
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I checked and Bernie Sanders would be 87 on election day 2028
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I am saving postage this year.
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My belated Halloween greeting card to you all:
“Roses are red,
Violets are bluish.
On this Halloween
You might see things ghoulish.
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My belated Thanksgiving greeting card to you all:
“When the family gathers,
and the turkey is all ate
Be thankful for your family
And the food upon your plate.”
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My Christmas greeting card to you all:
“With decorations to put up
And gifts to buy and wrap
Get the Christmas joy and spirit
Forget depressing worldly crap.”
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Do unto others as you would want the to do unto you.
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Do unto others as you would want THEM to do unto you.
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And also,
What do you think about Buddha’s noble eightfold path (and the four Noble Truths)?
“The Eightfold Path is a Buddhist practice for ending suffering, comprising eight principles: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Livelihood, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, and Right Concentration. It is traditionally divided into three groups: Wisdom (Right View, Right Intention), Ethics (Right Speech, Right Action, Right Livelihood), and Mental Discipline (Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration). ”
***[Buddhism’s Four Noble Truths are: the truth of suffering, its cause (craving or thirst), its cessation (Nirvana), and the path to its cessation, which is the Noble Eightfold Path. These truths form the core of Buddhist philosophy, outlining the human condition and providing a way to overcome it through a practice of moderation and mindfulness.
The Four Noble Truths
The Truth of the Path to the Cessation of Suffering: The truth that there is a path that leads to the end of suffering. This path is the Noble Eightfold Path, a set of principles to follow to achieve enlightenment.
The Truth of Suffering: The truth that suffering, dissatisfaction, and impermanence are inherent parts of life. This includes physical pain, the agony of aging and sickness, the grief of loss, and the frustration of not getting what one desires.
The Truth of the Origin of Suffering: The truth that suffering is caused by craving, attachment, and ignorance. Specifically, it is caused by the “thirst” or craving for sensory pleasures, for existence, and for non-existence.
The Truth of the Cessation of Suffering: The truth that suffering can be ended, and a state of liberation (Nirvana) can be reached by eliminating its cause.]
Wisdom
Ethics
Mental discipline
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Walt is going deep for the holidays.
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I checked and Bernie Sanders would be 87 on election day 2028″
Irrelevant, only Republicans are too old to be President.
I remember the campaign against McCain for being so old he couldn’t remember how many houses he owned.
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She just had certain “skills.”
I can believe it, she seduced 2 Roman Emperors who probably could have had any woman they wanted.
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Awww…. Shapiro is upset with Kamala?
“That’s complete and utter bull—-,” Shapiro told the Atlantic. “I can tell you that her accounts are just blatant lies.”
When asked if he felt betrayed by Harris, whom he had known for 20 years, Shapiro “snapped”….
“I mean, she’s trying to sell books and cover her a–,” Shapiro told the Atlantic, before apparently collecting himself and backtracking. “I shouldn’t say ‘cover her a–.’ I think that’s not appropriate … She’s trying to sell books. Period.”
Pass the popcorn.
He shouldn’t say it, but he said it twice.
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“I can tell you that her accounts are just blatant lies.”
I guess if she wins the nomination he won’t be on the VP list…
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https://x.com/JesseBWatters/status/1996396336447676643
Double tap hoax story is further blown up by abc. Also, they admit Coke was on board.
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Can someone page Erica Erickson?
https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1996297655358505022
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In the Jesse waters clip, Martha looks like she is constipated. .
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Tonight, I attended a party for judges and lawyers. All guests were asked to bring toys to give to children. There were Marines in dress uniform collecting the toys. I thanked them for their service and asked where they from and where stationed. One said he is from Liberia. I did not tell him that Tina would kick him out of the country.
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You are an idiot as usual.
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@SecretaryTurner
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6 months of ZERO illegals released into our country.
2 million illegals removed.
Rents drop for the fourth straight month. Coincidence? I think not!
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You hate all foreigners. Thousands of posts confirm it.
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No need to wait for Tina’s links. You can get the original here.
https://english.pravda.ru
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The suspected j6 pipe bomber was arrested this Am. Great work fib. The freepassers never cared about this incident of terrorist,
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@paulsperry_
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NEW: Per just-released DOD IG report, Biden forfeited “96,000 ground vehicles, 51,180 general purpose/light tactical vehicles, 23,825 [Humvees], nearly 900 armored combat vehicles, 427,300 weapons, 17,400 helmet-worn night vision devices and at least 162 aircraft” to the Taliban.
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The Afghanistan withdrawal was all trumps fault.
-Freepasser
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Demented back in the days wanted a “strike force” against the narcos. Now the drats (and some Ky gop-ers) love the narcos.
https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1996308495105196037
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Tina, the way the Daily Mail describes the suspect as an anarchist, he may be associated with ANTIFA, which would explain why the FBI under Biden had no interest in solving this case.
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The Afghanistan withdrawal was all trumps fault.
Said by nobody at HHR.
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I always suspected a male based on the body type and always felt the person lived close to Dc. The claim it was a woman was ridiculous.
we need to know the details Fla. this was very serious because it involved the dnc and rnc. Quemala was present at the dnc and her secret service protection apparently missed the object.
It is also concerning that the fib could not or would not solve this case for 4 years (until kash came aboard and re-reviewed the entire cold case file.
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Glad to see people noticing –
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No way are kash and bingino going to get fired.
crime stats down double digits
More missing kids reunited with their families.
J6 bomber caught
It’s like the fbi is the fbi again.
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It’s not just the benefits granted to illegals Fla. it’s also voting.
Giving illegals drivers licenses – let’s them register to vote
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Let’s see if Tina’s theory that it was a “guvmint employee” is correct.
Since she is always wrong, don’t bet on it.
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The freepassers never cared about this incident of terrorist,”
LOL
Major goal post moving alert.
Tina now trying to pretend she hasn’t been advocating for years that the pipe bomber was from the “guvmint”.
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I was only concerned about grannies entering the capitol on j6. I wanted all of them to be hunged.
-Freepasser
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With these cold cases, the new fib leadership had to re examine everything from the corrupt Biden regime possessed. It’s a lot of work. People Beotching about it taking 10 months to solve this, don’t know sheot. We do still need to know the following:
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Was the information sat on by wrong Wray and demented?
who gave any orders to sit on the information for?
why did quemalas secret service miss the bomb during the sweep of the outer dnc permiter?
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This is also a black eye for Messie and company. They look and sound like loons.
Messie went full on a hoax that it was a woman and the gait analysis was strong evidence.
Messie needs ro be primaried
a lot of the Ky Rs are bad politicos.
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lol, he is really bad.
@RepThomasMassie
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1h
Replying to @KyleSeraphinand@SteveBakerUSA
Let’s see what they’ve got. I’m not buying it.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/04/fbi-arrests-suspect-in-jan-6-pipe-bomb-case-ms-now.html
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“Last month, a conservative news site named a former U.S. Capitol Police officer as a possible match for the pipe bomber, based largely on a “gait analysis.” The FBI poured cold water on the story, and the accused officer cleared her name by providing a video of her playing with her puppies at the time the bombs were placed, CBS News reported“
SO GLAD SHE HAD DOGS.
Would have been very embarrassing if she had a video of her playing with her…..(cat).
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15345507/Mysterious-heartbeat-interstellar-object-3I-ATLAS.html
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I was only concerned about grannies entering the capitol on j6. I wanted all of them to be hunged.
Said by nobody at HHR. Aren’t you tired of these stupid posts, Tina?
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https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17aUudiYa4/
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I’m glad they have the J6 bomber. Always good to get the facts, whether he was Antifa or Proud Boys or something else.
Chicon
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I guess he isn’t Deep State.
Of course, if he was, Chicon would have let us know/.
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Apparently Kash/Bongino took the J6 bomber cold case away from the original FBI agents investigating it. Their reasons were they wanted “fresh eyes” on the case. So, after languishing for 4 1/2 years under the former regime’s agents, and going nowhere, it took 6 weeks to solve who the pipe bomber was under the Kash/Bongino changes made. It is speculated the original investigation was stalled when they couldn’t hang it around a MAGA supporter’s neck, connecting Trump to the incident.
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This is also a black eye for Messie and company. They look and sound like loons.”
This is also a black eye for Tina and the other “Deep Stater” morons. They look and sound like loons.
Fixed it for Tina.
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LOL
janzam and Tina move the goalposts from “the bomber was Deep State guvmint” to “the Deep State didn’t want to solve the case because the bomber wasn’t MAGA”.
Clowns think alike.
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IMO, J6 has always been rooted in an orchestrated event, by the Dems, to counter any evidence of 2020 election fraud/irregularities from being presented by House members. Taking a large crowd of protesters, disorienting them by flash grenades/rubber bullets and gestures by Capitol police to enter the building, made it easy to turn a protest into a riot in the eyes of an eager media to do so. Consequently, Trump supporters essentially became canon fodder to exploit and throw into jail, sometimes for years.
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The old agents could only round up maga grandparents. Bunch of incompetent idiots
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No goal posts have been moved. I have never been on board, with the story presented by the government and legacy media, that J6 was a violent insurrection of MAGA surging, unprovoked, into the Capitol Building. Unwinding the details and real culprits behind this event may never be known. However, as more is revealed, J6 was certainly not an organic event, but one that served a purpose that benefitted the democrat party.
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isorienting them by flash grenades/rubber bullets and gestures by Capitol police to enter the building,”
LOL
The protesters were “:disoriented” by the Deep State?
Zzzzz…
Everyone there was responsible for their own actions.
Those rioters that attacked police officers, destroyed public property, trespassed public property, stole public and private property, etc. knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
Nobody “forced” them to do anything.
Were many of them later overcharged and oversentenced? Yes.
Does that justify their actions? No.
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The old agents could only round up maga grandparents
Yeah, Dems love going after old people praying outside abortion centers, the Capitol building, or throwing a gold star mom (Tina Peters) in prison for saving the log of an election machine she thought was being wiped clean.
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“Zzzzz…
Everyone there was responsible for their own actions”
Old, shallow rationalizations by someone incapable of changing their minds, in the midst of contradictory and confusing evidence.
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hiefSund
Today’s arrest is a long-awaited step toward accountability. Nobody has wanted a break in the pipe bomb case more than I have. I know firsthand how these devices pulled critical resources away at the worst possible moment. I hope this arrest finally leads to the answers we’ve been waiting for. I’m awaiting further details, but I want to acknowledge the persistent attention and pressure from
@RepLoudermilk
and the Members and investigators on his committee. Their continued focus on January 6 — and on the agencies responsible for this investigation — has been essential in moving this forward.
@FBIDirectorKash
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Next we need an investigstion on why Piglosi and Biden’s Beotch undermanned protection at the Capitol. No fencing, inadequate security level, and refusal for national guardsmen
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Tina still blaming everybody but the protesters.
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Old, shallow rationalizations by someone incapable of changing their minds, in the midst of contradictory and confusing evidence.
Nothing was contradictory or confusing. Every protestor did what they wanted to do that day.
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Big shock – no new tips or evidence. Everything needed to solve the case was already in the FBI.
It will be interesting to see if Bitter and Jason can acknowledge this is a very bad look for the FBI.
Chicon
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UPDATE SO FAR ON SUSPECT J6 PIPE BOMB GUY
-First, very little is out there yet on who he is, etc. The only fact reported is that he graduated from a certain high school in that county… Nothing about what he does for work (if anything), does he own a car, or have a drivers license, a girlfriend, or any friends, etc. [MY guess is that is if “on the spectrum” autism, but high end] I doubt he has his own car, prolly no girl friend…no hobbies other than making piple bombs.
Secondly, the comments people make to the various news articles are mainly:
–I am sure it is a MAGA guy
–Trump will pardon him
–this is not the person, this is a distraction from Epstein files
and other interesting comments include:
–they say he had anarchist ties, and he was antifa which starts a big debate in comments that antifa is not anarchist, antifa is opposed to anarchists…
–one supposed retired lawyer saying in his comment that it is not illegal to have pipe bombs in your possession. And that the case against this guy will fall apart since the pipe bombs failed to detonate and (he assumes) not operable.
–a neighbor was interviewed and says he is definitely not the J6 pipe bomb guy because he has very short legs
–he wore shorts and crocks outside in the winter
–has a little chihuahua dog that he adores and takes him on walks every day to go down to the 7/11 store (I think it implies if you have a dog and like it, then you could not possibly be a pipe bomber).
–one report says he is a 33 year old bail bondsman. BUT, IMO, this is another Brian Cole in Fairfax (not Woodbridge) and is different from the 30 years old Brian Cole who lives with his parents in Woodbridge. So the dude would have been 25 when he planted the bomb.
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Yup, and it’s harder to audit the information from a cold case, than begin an investigation into a new case.
I have to say Trump may have the best cabinet of any president. Stellar picks. In contrast, Mute 43s cabinet is the worst.
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well the shoe fits.
https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1996664703444046195
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You know what’s interesting, Tina? Tampon Tim says others are following Trump’s lead by calling him a retard; yet the Left laughs at the idea their rhetoric incites any behavior.
Wacky.
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Timas was also a bad veep pick. A liability. And quemala was and always on her knees.
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Tina still blaming everybody but the protesters.
The “protesters” became a convenient group for Dems to aggravate and then exploit, in order to disrupt what was to be lengthy hearings by House members presenting their state evidence of election malfeasance. In the big picture protesters were more like victims of a pre-planned “riot,” meant as a ruthless means to accomplish the end goal of bypassing House presentations to swiftly install Biden as POTUS. People like Jason and Bitter, however, won’t see thru the haze of kabuki theater, constructed by high level Dems and establishment republicans, ignoring 2020 election high junks, to instead focus on three hours of mostly misdemeanor behavior and a fabricated list of felonies.
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Howdy, been away. The oldest turned 12 and took him on a trip for his birthday. We all got sick on the way home and have been in bed all week!!!
Trying to catch up, though I saw DW point above about that being a R+10 district and the GOP guy winning by 9…in a midterm…. Geez, people need to get off the ledge. Nothing wrong with that victory in a mid term by that margin.
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I don’t necessarily agree with all her points, but Point #4 is a big problem, if true. The free passers missed the lying by wrong Wray. He had a pattern of this and would not even admit to fib/fib assets being present,
@julie_kelly2
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My takeaways from presser: (1) It appears the individual seen on security video on Jan 5 is in custody. His name is Brian Cole Jr., he faces at least one federal charge with perhaps more to come. (2) No one is safer because this individual is in custody. The bombs were not viable and incapable of hurting anyone let alone blowing up lots of people. (3) Cooperation among agencies is very nice but we deserve a lot more details about this suspect ASAP. (4) The real scandal here is the COVERUP BY CHRIS WRAY’S FBI AND MERRICK GARLAND’S DOJ. If the outcome here is not the result of new information but fresh eyes on existing evidence, then that is a massive scandal and is more important than even the political leanings of the suspect.
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Jan – I will never accept that people are not responsible for their own actions. You want the protestors to be both heroic patriots AND incapable of making their own decisions. Both can’t be true.
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The fat Marxist slob judge loses.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/appeals-court-allows-trump-national-guard-deployment-dc-continue-2025-12-04/
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Bitter said…” I will never accept that people are not responsible for their own actions.”
I take that to include the FBI who did nothing with the case for 4 years.
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Bitter, put the George Floyd rioters in jail, then to can put the J6 trespassers away. While you’re at it, how about the DC rioters from 2016? Or from dozens of political riots over several decades? I’m an equal treatment under the law guy. You? That’s what I thought.
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Bitter wrote – I will never accept that people are not responsible for their own actions. You want the protestors to be both heroic patriots AND incapable of making their own decisions. Both can’t be true.
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Why can’t all be true, Bitter? Some people saw the guards open the doors, allow people in, and innocently walked in as well, without causing damage. Others destroyed public property and assaulted guards. The latter should be charged to the fullest extent of the law. The former should have been treated like any other protester in a democrat blue city – peacefully escorted out with no further action. Instead many were incredibly overcharged with novel theories of liability, like inappropriately charging them with a Dodd Frank/SEC investigation obstruction rule, to inflict maximum liability and great personal harm. It is also well documented that many of the former were treated horribly in prison confinement as well.
I for one welcome a review and repercussions for those responsible for trampling the former groups civil rights like they did.
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This will be interesting. Hopefully, Bitter and Jason won’t be too upset.
“FBI Director Kash Patel just announced he will be EXPOSING Biden’s FBI IN COURT for COVERING UP the J6 pipe bomber.”
Chicon
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Wrong Wray claims that he didn’t see Antifa on j6.
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Silly you, Tina. How can you go after an ideology/sarc
Wray was horrible and I welcome what Chicon posted about exposing Biden’s fbi in court if they in fact did look the other way on that.
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Being overcharged and being innocent are not the same thing.
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Bitter, put the George Floyd rioters in jail, then to can put the J6 trespassers away.
Works for me. When there were riots in Philadelphia in 2020 I said they should be put down with force.
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I am happy to see more people in jail than less.
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Zzzzzzzzzzzz. I have never supported in anything except sending weapons to Ukraine.
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I have never supported Biden in anything except sending weapons to Ukraine.
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Bitter wrote – Being overcharged and being innocent are not the same thing.
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Sure you can, if you were a 79 year old housewife that saw the guards opening the doors and letting people in and followed, thinking it was allowed. They reasonably thought it wasn’t trespassing. (This is a real case btw). There are a number of cases in DC (non j6) where this was argued and there was a successful defense(I.e charges dropped or person found not guilty of criminal trespassing). In any other jurisdiction they wouldn’t have even been charged. moreover, in the many times abortion activists and code pink did the same in DC, they weren’t charged. Instead, here we had them overcharged and a politicized judiciary intent on finding guilt. Grandma was totally innocent. Put on your defense cap, counselor.
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I thought the Congress sent a criminal referral to doj because wrong Wray lied about antifa and fib assets
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new thread to save scrolling . Will have a polling thread tomorrow
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Grandma was totally innocent. Put on your defense cap, counselor
Grandma trespassed. Deal with it. You are wasting your time. Grandma was a trespasser.
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Nothing to “deal with” bitter. We have a difference of opinion. I’ve pointed out comparables in the DC circuit that clearly support my position. You see it otherwise. It’s a free country, so have at it.
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