Not sure what the Epstein files will show. He died in 2019. If there were Dems to charge, Trump would have ordered it. If there were Republicans to charge when Biden was President, he would have ordered it.
Bitter, I always thought prosecutors did not release evidence of an investigation that didn’t result in an indictment.
Epstein and his wife were charged, and I guess the avenue for the release of the documents is through those cases. I wouldn’t think they’d release it if an active investigation were underway.
It’s not a big issue to me, but there’s a belief out there that there was a cover-up because he had important clients.
The harder it is to get info from the government about this, JFK, RFK MLK (and Crooks, for me), the more fuel gets tossed on the conspiracy fires.
Tina, I suspect Trump is selling the idea that he’s fine walking away. I think he’d rather not walk away from the table, but he will if he doesn’t the Zelenskyy will do a deal in the best interests of the US.
As a practical matter I have no idea what Zelenskyy thinks he’s doing. Does he think the leaders of France, GB, and Germany are going to save his country? Outside of some macho tweets they aren’t going to divert their welfare state budgets toward significant aid to Ukraine. Does he think the Democrats who talked him into rejecting the mineral deal are going to write him a check?
Well its all over for President Trump and VP JD now. The great (and unemployed) Vindman is calling for JD to resign and Trump to apologize to Zelinsky.
NADIAN PM TRUDEAU ON UKRAINE: “Everything’s on the table. We know that the Canadian military has ways that it can contribute… Canada will be there.” Canada has 63 fighter jets. 63. Sending 10 to Ukraine would mean 16% of their total. To one country. 10 jets.
Trump is just looking for an excuse to abandon Ukraine.
I actually thought he was serious about seeking an end to the war that wasn’t surrender to Putin. I thought he wanted the kudos of being the one to bring peace, even if an unfair peace.
While I knew the terms would be unfavorable to Ukraine and would reward Putin for his invasion, I thought they would be at a minimum some respect for Ukraine’s sovereignty and some concessions by Russia.
So far all we have is overt condemnation of Zelensky and Ukraine, zero accounting for Russia.
In the end, Trump had no intention of seeking a just peace, because he probably realizes the Russians weren’t interested in it anyway. So his “out” is to blame Ukraine, and all the Putin sycophants and trained seals stand up and applaud.
It is a bizarre and alternative universe where the party responsible for the invasion and the destruction and the war crimes is the “good guy”, while the great Ukrainian patriot and hero Zelensky who has been successful in preventing the annexation of his country and its 40 million people is the “bad guy”.
Hey Tina, add Mark Levin to the Putina cult list. It’s fitting for his recent statements. After all, he has always been a big Russia pimp and no fan of Ukraine –
ZELENSKY: Lindsey Graham is a very good guy. A very, very nice, and speaking on who should be the president and whether I shall resign, I can give him the citizenship of Ukraine, he will become the citizen of our country, and then his voice will start to gain weight, and I will hear him as a citizen of Ukraine on the topic of who must be the president.”
An example of the damage Zelenskyy has done to the Ukrainian cause.
Derrick Van Orden
@derrickvanorden
I am a member of congress, a former Navy SEAL, and the longest serving enlisted member of the United States military, to ever be elected to Congress in the history of my country.
I have served in uniform in combat in multiple areas of conflict.
I must be frank with you Mr. President, how you treated my President
@realdonaldtrump
and my Vice President
@JDVance
by trying to talk over them and show disrespect in our Oval Office was reprehensible.
I will not be voting for a fucking nickel in military aid for you until you get your mind right.
This can be in public or private, but I will remind you that with the slim majority in our house of representatives I can stop any initiative, including the money coming to you.
We want peace in Europe, but in no
way, shape or, form, will America ever be your bitch.
Feel free to contact my office, if you would like support.
Jason once told us that Big Z could keep getting US funding over Trump’s veto. That analysis aged well…I guess Jason didn’t count on Big Z being an elite-level idiot.
Q. Why does the DC uniparty elite lionize Zelenskyy? A. Because Zelenskyy is the laundromat manager of the biggest money-laundering operation in world history.
Jason once told us that Big Z could keep getting US funding over Trump’s veto.”
Nah.
I said there were enough votes in Congress and the Senate to keep aid flowing IF IT CAME TO A VOTE.
I can imagine there could be 16 Rs in the Senate who support Ukraine and enough Rs in the House that would also if all Dems in both houses voted for it (not a given, some Dems oppose aid too).
But I doubt either Johnson or Thune would defy Trump and bring it to a vote.
In any case, I bet it would pass but maybe not with veto proof majority.
I think its great that the brits are stepping up and offering to send troops to the Ukraine. Unfortunately, it might not have the effect they think on the Russians, LOL! –
Jason says Levin didn’t know anything about Ukraine…….then proceeds to give………wait for it…….,.let me check again……….ZERO EXAMPLES of levins “not knowledgeable” link.
One of the most striking things about yesterday’s Zelensky press conference was Lindsey Graham’s reaction to it. The two are old friends, but Graham disavowed him within the hour. This was more than just transactional disloyalty. It was scapegoating. Lindsey Graham knows what’s coming. Over the past three years, with the tacit support of its western patrons, the Ukrainian government has committed a remarkable number of serious crimes. The Ukrainians sold huge quantities of American weapons on the international black market at twenty cents on the dollar. These weapons are now in the hands of armed groups around the world, including Hamas, the Mexican drug cartels and the forces now controlling Syria. God knows what the Ukrainians have done with the pathogens in American biolabs in their country. Even US intel agencies aren’t sure. The Ukrainians have also murdered a number of people in various countries in political assassinations, and tried to murder others, including American journalists and a European head of state. This is all true, and it’s all going to come out at some point. Better to start blaming it on Zelensky now.
Van Orden has supported Israel and Taiwan, but not Ukraine. He’s gotta be on Putin’s payroll. Or, maybe, he recognized early that Zelenskyy isn’t trustworthy.
Pretty sure Chicon respects Navy Seals, but then when they move on to a different job, like to being a Congressman, then the standards for respect change, because the job changed………not a very tough concept, for most people.
Jack Keane was just on with Stuart Varney. He said there was a twenty minute meeting Friday with everyone present, except the press, where they went over the upcoming press conference. Zelenskyy said nothing about any reservations. He waited until the press was there to grandstand.
There have been so many scandals swirling around the Ukrainian government’s handling of the aid given them – much reported through news organizations like Times, who interviewed officials inside Zelenskyy’s administration. However, diehard Zelenskyy fans continue to turn a blind eye to all this, even refusing to simply question such allegations, and instead ridicule those submitting links and clips demonstrating the abuses going on under Zelenskyy’s leadership.
If he is now a Congressman, he is no longer a Seal. He was a seal.
Same way Jimmy Carter became President, you didn’t have to shut your trap about his performance as President because he had honorably served in the US Navy.
Pretty obvious that both Bitterlaw and Jason refuse to allow any new information to penetrate those heads of theirs. Zelenskyy is no mere mortal, he has reached god-like status in their minds. -nycmike23
Zelenskyy is no mere mortal, he has reached god-like status in their minds.”
Nah.
He is no God, he is just the the great hero and patriot of Ukraine that has managed to stand up to Putin and defend his country against all odds.
For that he has my eternal admiration.
But I have always said that making this about Zelensky only helps Putin. What is at stake here is Ukraine, not Zelensky.
Even if you believe the sordid propaganda against him, you should still support the country of Ukraine.
Whatever you think of Zelensky, Ukraine is the issue here. There are 40 million people at risk of becoming Russian vassals, so that is much bigger than Zelensky.
Tucker Carlson is far more honest and knowledgeable about international politics than someone like Jason, who freely criticizes and maligns while being wrong on so many posts and predictions.
Jason supports the corrupt oligarchy and Ukrainian government – not the Ukrainian citizen being forced to fight on the front lines. The polls showing Zelenskyy’s approval marginally good were done by USAID monies, while other polls indicate a 16% approval number. That’s one of the reasons he continues to tank any rational solution to ending the war, as martial law would also end and elections would be held.
This is the worst statement that could have been made by Zelenskyy, and America will not put up with it for much longer! It is what I was saying, this guy doesn’t want there to be Peace as long as he has America’s backing and, Europe, in the meeting they had with Zelenskyy, stated flatly that they cannot do the job without the U.S. – Probably not a great statement to have been made in terms of a show of strength against Russia. What are they thinking? apnews.com/article/russia-ukra
If he is now a Congressman, he is no longer a Seal. He was a seal.”
No, he is still a Navy Seal, retired.
Same with Marines.
“Once a Marine, always a Marine” means that regardless of when someone leaves the United States Marine Corps, they will always be considered a Marine and hold the identity and values associated with the Corps throughout their life; essentially, the title of “Marine” is a lifelong distinction”
“I believe that Ukraine has a strong enough partnership with the United States of America” to keep aid flowing, he said at a briefing in Ukrainian before leaving London.
Tina might be right, this take is as delusional as a drug addiction.
I read Levin’s article against my better judgement
Most of it is garbage and just sycophantic adulation of Trump.
But he does say something at the end that because he is a moron, actually undercuts his prior nonsense.
“Russia, under Putin. He’s invaded Crimea, and he stole it from the Ukraine. Before that, he invaded the country of Georgia, and he stole 20 percent of that. He’s got a thousand warheads aimed at us, a thousand.
He’s got nuclear submarines off our shores. He keeps threatening our coasts. They keep buzzing our ships. They keep threatening the coast of Alaska.
They have a presence in Central and South America, hypersonic missiles. They have advanced hypersonic missiles aimed at us. They’re not aimed at Ukraine or anybody else. They’re aimed at us.
They now have a military relationship with China, and China’s enemy is us. They have a military relationship with Iran. Iran’s enemy is us. They have a military relationship with North Korea. North Korea’s enemy is us.”
He actually makes a good point on why we shouldn’t surrender to Putin.
Sorry the Internet is forever. You posted that Van Orden could not be a Putin lover because he was a Navy Seal. In other words, you could not criticize him for failing to support Ukraine.
As a book end to those saying Zelenskyy doesn’t want to end the war, here is one of his latest statements, asserting ending the war is a long way away. Linked to that statement is that the end of his presidency is also a long way away. I truly hope Trump publicly states all Ukrainian aid is ending immediately.
”KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A deal to end the war between Ukraine and Russia “is still very, very far away,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said, adding that he expects to keep receiving American support despite his recent fraught relations with U.S. President Donald Trump.”
Someone needs to tell Zelensky to fire whoever is advising him on how to deal with the new administration and the current sentiment of the American public. Stating that publicly is even dumber than anything even a moronic democrat would do.
It’s worth remembering, the basic construct of Lawfare is not necessarily to win the final legal challenges – Lawfare is designed to shape public opinion, impede the target and advance an adversarial narrative.
I find the above definitive purpose of lawfare machinations spot on, especially in lieu of such inappropriate judicial activism by US District Judges like Amy Berman Jackson.
And you have been denying for years how much of a con man Zelenskyy really is, where the destruction of his country is less important to him than keeping himself in the limelight as president. You’re pathetically blind!
Van Orden is a Navy SEAL who supports aid to Israel and Taiwan, but not Ukraine. For that, Jason labels him as a Putin lover – a traitor to his country’s interests.
Van Orden is fair game for criticism of his policies. Questioning his loyalty to his country is an interesting choice for someone who foams at the mouth of anyone having a policy critique of St. McCain.
So Zelenskyy says that the war is a long long way from ending? So he’s going to go on fighting until Russia is driven out of eastern Ukraine? Good luck with that strategy. Delusional much?
Yesterday, Susan Rice said of the Trump-Zelensky meeting, “There is no question this was a set up.” She revealed full knowledge of the mineral agreement, complained that it didn’t include “concrete” security agrees (meaning, apparently, commitment of US troops on the ground if conditions merit), and then mischaracterized Trump’s behavior, counting on most Americans to not have watched what transpired over the entire hour in the Oval Office. You can look at this and dismiss it as typical Democrat talking points, but you could also view it as almost a confession, one that includes details about the current “Get Trump” effort. Yes, Trump won the popular vote against unbelievable odds, but if you think Team Obama is being any less involved in quiet insurrections than they were during the first Trump administration (Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment, etc.), you’re clueless. I’ll remind you that Susan Rice was in the small Jan. 5, 2017 meeting in the WH with other key Russia collusion hoax perpetrators. Zelensky repeatedly declined opportunities to sign the deal in Kyiv and Munich, and requested the meeting at the White House. It later came out that Rice and Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, and Alexander Vindman may have been personally advising Zelensky to do this meeting in the way he did — that they recommended him to be hostile and to try to goad Trump into blowing up. Even though he didn’t, and even though Zelensky’s actions horrified many normal Americans, the Obama team went on the airwaves to falsely characterize what happened. I think their goal was to have a wonderful performance by Zelensky, an angry Trump appearing to scuttle the deal, and the support of the neocon portion of the GOP to start applying pressure on Trump to have US Troop commitments as part of the “security guarantee.” It was a set-up, in Susan Rice’s interesting choice of words. Instead, Zelensky had one of the worst stage performances of his acting career, and Trump was statesmanlike (against all odds) throughout. Zelensky followed Team Obama’s advice to be hostile to a tee, but it didn’t land how they thought it would. Surprisingly, one of the most important aspects of it not working out might have been Lindsay Graham’s reaction. Had he and other neocons thought Zelensky was being reasonable, Trump would be having to fight (even moreso) the neocon portion of the GOP in addition to Team Obama’s dirty tricks. Even the “conservative” neocon pundits on TV last night were admitting Zelensky had royally messed up. As you can see from the hostility of the bureaucracy to any Republican oversight, no matter how reasonable or minor it may be, the entrenched bureaucracy and permanent DC apparatus is quite active. That goes quadruple for the deep state in the Intelligence Community. I’d expect more and more shenanigans and to be prepared so that you don’t fall for the next information operation. The post-WWII architecture in Europe and the US needs this war to continue or be settled on “US troops on the ground” type guarantees, even though that’s not what Americans want. Things will heat up here, and it’s a very dangerous time.
As usual you distort the message of a poster siding with the Ukrainian people’s wish to negotiate a way out of this war. Instead, you protect and elevate the guy wanting to keep the death and destruction going on indefinitely. It’s like you have a bag over your head without any eye holes.
“Chi used to support Ukraine in its war to survive.”
Still do. Just not willing to endlessly pay for something that hasn’t shown any success yet (in driving Russia out) and won’t in the future.
What’s the plan to drive the Russians out? How much, for how long? “For as long as it takes, and as much as it takes” is not a plan and is not gonna fly. I said a few years ago that the American public needs to see success to keep funding. You called me names, of course, but it worked out that way.
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Bitter,
follow the orders given you when you were released about ice or heat or whatever.
I hope you healing commences well. It just takes time.
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Thank you. Taking time is a nuisance for those of us who are not immortal.
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The Ukraine kerfuffle has continued to deflect from Pam Bondi’s (mis)handling of the release of the Epstein documents.
Pam and Kash should show their work.
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hope your recovery is going well Bitter… take it easy and be careful
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DW – Slow. Thank you. Being careful is pretty easy for me since I barely leave my couch. Of course, I could find a way to even injure myself here.
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Not sure what the Epstein files will show. He died in 2019. If there were Dems to charge, Trump would have ordered it. If there were Republicans to charge when Biden was President, he would have ordered it.
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Bitter, I always thought prosecutors did not release evidence of an investigation that didn’t result in an indictment.
Epstein and his wife were charged, and I guess the avenue for the release of the documents is through those cases. I wouldn’t think they’d release it if an active investigation were underway.
It’s not a big issue to me, but there’s a belief out there that there was a cover-up because he had important clients.
The harder it is to get info from the government about this, JFK, RFK MLK (and Crooks, for me), the more fuel gets tossed on the conspiracy fires.
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BREAKING: Trump is meeting with aides today to discuss canceling U.S. military aid to Ukraine – NYT
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Tina, I suspect Trump is selling the idea that he’s fine walking away. I think he’d rather not walk away from the table, but he will if he doesn’t the Zelenskyy will do a deal in the best interests of the US.
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Think Zelenskyy….
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The problem with conspiracy theories is that no matter what is released, it is never enough.
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Putina must be ecstatic. I alone predicted Trump would backstab Ukraine and let it fall. Both can be true.
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CONGRESSWOMAN ANNA PAULINA LUNA (R-FL): “It is time for the United States to exit NATO!”
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Absurd
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It is never enough for some, but it would be enough for others.
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The Zelenskyy tough guy routine continues unabated….
Zelensky: “Lindsey Graham is a very good guy… I can give him Ukrainian citizenship, then his voice will gain weight.”
Graham had been a staunch supporter.
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Chi I think he will announce a pull out tomorrow. No more $ to the grifter.
He will call for ukranian elections
rinos and drats will cry (follow the $)
a foreign born Marxist jusge will intervene and say trump has to spend $
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As a practical matter I have no idea what Zelenskyy thinks he’s doing. Does he think the leaders of France, GB, and Germany are going to save his country? Outside of some macho tweets they aren’t going to divert their welfare state budgets toward significant aid to Ukraine. Does he think the Democrats who talked him into rejecting the mineral deal are going to write him a check?
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It’s baffling, Phil. He’s being Russia’s best asset.
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Well its all over for President Trump and VP JD now. The great (and unemployed) Vindman is calling for JD to resign and Trump to apologize to Zelinsky.
https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1896557778602496043
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/americans-love-doge-77-voters-believe-full-examination/
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I say it’s well past time for chow hoarder vindman to be recalled to active duty and go before a military tribunal.
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Lol Justine
NADIAN PM TRUDEAU ON UKRAINE: “Everything’s on the table. We know that the Canadian military has ways that it can contribute… Canada will be there.” Canada has 63 fighter jets. 63. Sending 10 to Ukraine would mean 16% of their total. To one country. 10 jets.
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Trump should also pull out of all euro bases and tariff Germany francs and Canada at 75%
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I alone predicted Trump would backstab Ukraine and let it fall.”
You were right.
I was wrong.
GFY.
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All the Epstein, JFK, MLK and RFK docs will be a big snoozefest.
My prediction.
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I say it’s well past time for chow hoarder vindman to be recalled to active duty and go before a military tribunal.”
I finally agree with something Tina said.
I will take 10 showers and move on.
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Zelenskyy backstabbed Ukraine.
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Zelenskyy backstabbed Ukraine.”
LOL
Any excuse to shill for Putin.
This one might be the most ridiculous one yet.
No one has stood up more for Ukraine than Zelensky. No one.
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Trump is just looking for an excuse to abandon Ukraine.
I actually thought he was serious about seeking an end to the war that wasn’t surrender to Putin. I thought he wanted the kudos of being the one to bring peace, even if an unfair peace.
While I knew the terms would be unfavorable to Ukraine and would reward Putin for his invasion, I thought they would be at a minimum some respect for Ukraine’s sovereignty and some concessions by Russia.
So far all we have is overt condemnation of Zelensky and Ukraine, zero accounting for Russia.
In the end, Trump had no intention of seeking a just peace, because he probably realizes the Russians weren’t interested in it anyway. So his “out” is to blame Ukraine, and all the Putin sycophants and trained seals stand up and applaud.
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“No one has stood up more for Ukraine than Zelensky. No one.”
Perhaps. And now, no one has damaged Ukraine’s cause against Russia more than Zelenskyy.
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It is a bizarre and alternative universe where the party responsible for the invasion and the destruction and the war crimes is the “good guy”, while the great Ukrainian patriot and hero Zelensky who has been successful in preventing the annexation of his country and its 40 million people is the “bad guy”.
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And now, no one has damaged Ukraine’s cause against Russia more than Zelenskyy”
BS.
But maybe Putin will send you an autographed picture for saying that.
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BOI RULE ELIMNATED
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/treasury-department-suspends-enforcement-boi-that-forces-small/
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Hey Tina, add Mark Levin to the Putina cult list. It’s fitting for his recent statements. After all, he has always been a big Russia pimp and no fan of Ukraine –
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/03/03/levin-zelensky-blew-it-and-he-blew-it-big-and-i-speak-as-somebody-who-supports-ukraine/
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Zelensky tears Lindsay Graham a new a-hole…
ZELENSKY: Lindsey Graham is a very good guy. A very, very nice, and speaking on who should be the president and whether I shall resign, I can give him the citizenship of Ukraine, he will become the citizen of our country, and then his voice will start to gain weight, and I will hear him as a citizen of Ukraine on the topic of who must be the president.”
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An example of the damage Zelenskyy has done to the Ukrainian cause.
Derrick Van Orden
@derrickvanorden
I am a member of congress, a former Navy SEAL, and the longest serving enlisted member of the United States military, to ever be elected to Congress in the history of my country.
I have served in uniform in combat in multiple areas of conflict.
I must be frank with you Mr. President, how you treated my President
@realdonaldtrump
and my Vice President
@JDVance
by trying to talk over them and show disrespect in our Oval Office was reprehensible.
I will not be voting for a fucking nickel in military aid for you until you get your mind right.
This can be in public or private, but I will remind you that with the slim majority in our house of representatives I can stop any initiative, including the money coming to you.
We want peace in Europe, but in no
way, shape or, form, will America ever be your bitch.
Feel free to contact my office, if you would like support.
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Mark Levin knows less about Ukraine than he does constitutional law.
Ok, ok, that is a low bar.
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Absurd.
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I will not be voting for a fucking nickel in military aid”
Zzzzz….
I bet he wouldn’t vote for military aid against Putin if Zelensky was Mother Theresa.
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At least Vindman is on Jason’s side….
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Classless and unbecoming of a veteran and member of Congress.
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Jason and Vindman say….Zelensky tears Lindsay Graham a new a-hole…
I bet it felt so good to throw a big supporter of his overboard. He is such a tough guy. And a complete idiot.
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Jason will suddenly call any analyst he previously respected a moron if they don’t agree with his pro-war position. And he calls others Cultists.
Projection is funny…..
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Jason once told us that Big Z could keep getting US funding over Trump’s veto. That analysis aged well…I guess Jason didn’t count on Big Z being an elite-level idiot.
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Now a Navy SEAL is a Putin lover. Lol…
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@mrddmia
Q. Why does the DC uniparty elite lionize Zelenskyy? A. Because Zelenskyy is the laundromat manager of the biggest money-laundering operation in world history.
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Now a Navy SEAL is a Putin lover. Lol…
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Why is that so hard to imagine?
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Jason once told us that Big Z could keep getting US funding over Trump’s veto.”
Nah.
I said there were enough votes in Congress and the Senate to keep aid flowing IF IT CAME TO A VOTE.
I can imagine there could be 16 Rs in the Senate who support Ukraine and enough Rs in the House that would also if all Dems in both houses voted for it (not a given, some Dems oppose aid too).
But I doubt either Johnson or Thune would defy Trump and bring it to a vote.
In any case, I bet it would pass but maybe not with veto proof majority.
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I think its great that the brits are stepping up and offering to send troops to the Ukraine. Unfortunately, it might not have the effect they think on the Russians, LOL! –
https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1896438058167464349
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https://vanorden.house.gov/media/press-releases/van-orden-statement-ukraine-security-assistance-and-oversight-supplemental
Van Orden was not a friend to Ukraine before last week, either.
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Jason says Levin didn’t know anything about Ukraine…….then proceeds to give………wait for it…….,.let me check again……….ZERO EXAMPLES of levins “not knowledgeable” link.
-nycmike23
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Now a Navy SEAL is a Putin lover. Lol…
Chicon”
Dan Crenshaw is a highly decorated Navy Seal (2who lost an eye in combat in Afghanistan, after 5 deployments, including 2 AFTER losing an eye.
He is routinely disparaged and insulted here as a “Cringeshaw” and called a RINO, so don’t give me any BS that you respect Navy Seals.
GFY.
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Tucker Carlson
@TuckerCarlson
One of the most striking things about yesterday’s Zelensky press conference was Lindsey Graham’s reaction to it. The two are old friends, but Graham disavowed him within the hour. This was more than just transactional disloyalty. It was scapegoating. Lindsey Graham knows what’s coming. Over the past three years, with the tacit support of its western patrons, the Ukrainian government has committed a remarkable number of serious crimes. The Ukrainians sold huge quantities of American weapons on the international black market at twenty cents on the dollar. These weapons are now in the hands of armed groups around the world, including Hamas, the Mexican drug cartels and the forces now controlling Syria. God knows what the Ukrainians have done with the pathogens in American biolabs in their country. Even US intel agencies aren’t sure. The Ukrainians have also murdered a number of people in various countries in political assassinations, and tried to murder others, including American journalists and a European head of state. This is all true, and it’s all going to come out at some point. Better to start blaming it on Zelensky now.
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Van Orden was not a friend to Ukraine before last week, either.”
Of course not.
But any lie for the Putin cause.
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Van Orden has supported Israel and Taiwan, but not Ukraine. He’s gotta be on Putin’s payroll. Or, maybe, he recognized early that Zelenskyy isn’t trustworthy.
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Some people actually believe anything Tucker Carlson, who is featured regularly on Russian State TV as a Putin lapdog, says.
Astounding.
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Pretty sure Chicon respects Navy Seals, but then when they move on to a different job, like to being a Congressman, then the standards for respect change, because the job changed………not a very tough concept, for most people.
-nycmike23
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Van Orden has supported Israel and Taiwan, but not Ukraine.”
Ahh. so he has never supported Ukraine.
Yet he is quoted here as wow, he will continue to not support Ukraine?
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but then when they move on to a different job, like to being a Congressman, then the standards for respect change”
No, actually the standards do NOT change.
Chicon “respects” Navy Seals who agree with him.
If they don’t they are garbage.
That is the mind of a Cultist.
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The Ukrainians sold huge quantities of American weapons on the international black market at twenty cents on the dollar.”
And yet they still managed to hold off the Russians for 3 years?
Very clever, those Ukrainians.
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Jack Keane was just on with Stuart Varney. He said there was a twenty minute meeting Friday with everyone present, except the press, where they went over the upcoming press conference. Zelenskyy said nothing about any reservations. He waited until the press was there to grandstand.
Excellent strategy, moron.
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God knows what the Ukrainians have done with the pathogens in American biolabs in their country.”
Zzzz….
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There have been so many scandals swirling around the Ukrainian government’s handling of the aid given them – much reported through news organizations like Times, who interviewed officials inside Zelenskyy’s administration. However, diehard Zelenskyy fans continue to turn a blind eye to all this, even refusing to simply question such allegations, and instead ridicule those submitting links and clips demonstrating the abuses going on under Zelenskyy’s leadership.
Absurd…
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If he is now a Congressman, he is no longer a Seal. He was a seal.
Same way Jimmy Carter became President, you didn’t have to shut your trap about his performance as President because he had honorably served in the US Navy.
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Zelenskyy said nothing about any reservations.”
BS.
Rubio himself admitted that Zelensky had already said before the Oval Office meeting that he wouldn’t be signing without security guarantees.
Trump and Vance knew that before the Oval Office blow up, and that is why they wanted to throw Zelensky under the bus.
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Pretty obvious that both Bitterlaw and Jason refuse to allow any new information to penetrate those heads of theirs. Zelenskyy is no mere mortal, he has reached god-like status in their minds.
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There have been so many scandals swirling around the Ukrainian government’s handling of the aid given them”
Zzzzz..
But let’s say all “allegations” are true.
Does that change the fact that countering the Russian expansionist agenda and keeping Ukraine from being annexed IS IN OUR INTEREST?
How about the biggest “scandal” of all?
Putin’s invasion of a sovereign country of 40 million people and all the destruction and killing and war crimes he has wrought?
Care to comment of that “scandal”?
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who wants to talk about ABORTION!!
-tofu4U
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Levin laid out the whole deal quite nicely. Jason and Bitterlaw haven’t given one second to say where he gets it wrong. Not one example. Typical.
-nycmike23
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Now Jack Keane is a liar!!
The Jason Vindman cult is tough….
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TGCA?
Fish, hide quickly!
-nycmike23
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Zelenskyy is no mere mortal, he has reached god-like status in their minds.”
Nah.
He is no God, he is just the the great hero and patriot of Ukraine that has managed to stand up to Putin and defend his country against all odds.
For that he has my eternal admiration.
But I have always said that making this about Zelensky only helps Putin. What is at stake here is Ukraine, not Zelensky.
Even if you believe the sordid propaganda against him, you should still support the country of Ukraine.
Whatever you think of Zelensky, Ukraine is the issue here. There are 40 million people at risk of becoming Russian vassals, so that is much bigger than Zelensky.
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Everyone else, except for Jason, Bitterlaw, Dem Senators, Vindman and MSNBC, are liars.
-nycmike23
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Tucker Carlson is far more honest and knowledgeable about international politics than someone like Jason, who freely criticizes and maligns while being wrong on so many posts and predictions.
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Wow, I thought Tgca’s diet of desiccated bark and shots of organic maple syrup would have killed him by now.
Welcome back!
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Tucker Carlson is far more honest and knowledgeable about international politics”
LOL
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“But I have always said that making this about Zelensky only helps Putin. What is at stake here is Ukraine, not Zelensky.”
so where did levin, and everybody else, get it wrong when they look at the mining deal as a fantastic deal for Ukraine?
Take a line from his link and show where he is wrong.
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Is it really TGCA?
-nycmike23
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Levin laid out the whole deal quite nicely.”
Zzzz.
Levin is a blowhard moron and fake constitutional expert.
I have forgotten more about the Constitution than he ever learned.
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when they look at the mining deal as a fantastic deal for Ukraine?”
I never opposee the deal, it may well be good for both the US and Ukraine.
But I think Zelensky is right, without a security guarantee it is subject to the whims of Putin, and Putin cannot be trusted.
Both can be true.
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Is it really TGCA?”
Tofu4U is the giveaway.
So is ABORTION.
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you should still support the country of Ukraine.
Jason supports the corrupt oligarchy and Ukrainian government – not the Ukrainian citizen being forced to fight on the front lines. The polls showing Zelenskyy’s approval marginally good were done by USAID monies, while other polls indicate a 16% approval number. That’s one of the reasons he continues to tank any rational solution to ending the war, as martial law would also end and elections would be held.
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realDonaldTrump
This is the worst statement that could have been made by Zelenskyy, and America will not put up with it for much longer! It is what I was saying, this guy doesn’t want there to be Peace as long as he has America’s backing and, Europe, in the meeting they had with Zelenskyy, stated flatly that they cannot do the job without the U.S. – Probably not a great statement to have been made in terms of a show of strength against Russia. What are they thinking? apnews.com/article/russia-ukra
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If he is now a Congressman, he is no longer a Seal. He was a seal.”
No, he is still a Navy Seal, retired.
Same with Marines.
“Once a Marine, always a Marine” means that regardless of when someone leaves the United States Marine Corps, they will always be considered a Marine and hold the identity and values associated with the Corps throughout their life; essentially, the title of “Marine” is a lifelong distinction”
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Jan never supported the citizens of Ukraine.
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Jason supports the corrupt oligarchy and Ukrainian government – not the Ukrainian citizen being forced to fight on the front lines.”
No, I support the country of Ukraine and all its citizens who do not want to becomes vassals of the Russian state.
And while you accuse Ukraine, you ignore a country 100 times more corrupts and autocratic and a true dictatorship like Russia.
The hypocrisy is astounding.
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Always a Marine?
J D Vance never allowed to be criticized by Jason?
-nycmike23
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“I believe that Ukraine has a strong enough partnership with the United States of America” to keep aid flowing, he said at a briefing in Ukrainian before leaving London.
Tina might be right, this take is as delusional as a drug addiction.
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NYC, that rule only applies to St. McCain, who voted to retain Obamacare because he was mad at Trump.
Jason applauded that, but will now demand that Trump overlook Zelenskyy acting like a Richard.
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I read Levin’s article against my better judgement
Most of it is garbage and just sycophantic adulation of Trump.
But he does say something at the end that because he is a moron, actually undercuts his prior nonsense.
“Russia, under Putin. He’s invaded Crimea, and he stole it from the Ukraine. Before that, he invaded the country of Georgia, and he stole 20 percent of that. He’s got a thousand warheads aimed at us, a thousand.
He’s got nuclear submarines off our shores. He keeps threatening our coasts. They keep buzzing our ships. They keep threatening the coast of Alaska.
They have a presence in Central and South America, hypersonic missiles. They have advanced hypersonic missiles aimed at us. They’re not aimed at Ukraine or anybody else. They’re aimed at us.
They now have a military relationship with China, and China’s enemy is us. They have a military relationship with Iran. Iran’s enemy is us. They have a military relationship with North Korea. North Korea’s enemy is us.”
He actually makes a good point on why we shouldn’t surrender to Putin.
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Bitter said….Jan never supported the citizens of Ukraine.
I don’t believe that, but I’m certain that Biden, the Democrats and the Ukrainian supporting Republicans never supported the people of Ukraine.
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Always a Marine?
J D Vance never allowed to be criticized by Jason?
-nycmike23″
You are really an imbecilic moron.
But thanks for making my point.
Chicon’s point was exactly that Van Orden, a Navy Seal, couldn’t be criticized.
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I don’t believe that, but I’m certain that Biden, the Democrats and the Ukrainian supporting Republicans never supported the people of Ukraine”
By keeping them from becoming Russian vassals?
That is not supporting the citizens of Ukraine.
Alternate universe where Chicon thinks the Putin lapdogs were “supporting the people of Ukraine”
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“Chicon’s point was exactly that Van Orden, a Navy Seal, couldn’t be criticized.”
Incorrect.
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Jason applauded that”
No, actually I have always said McCain was wrong on Obamacare.
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“Incorrect”
Sorry the Internet is forever. You posted that Van Orden could not be a Putin lover because he was a Navy Seal. In other words, you could not criticize him for failing to support Ukraine.
themohel
March 3, 2025 at 11:05 am
Now a Navy SEAL is a Putin lover. Lol…
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As a book end to those saying Zelenskyy doesn’t want to end the war, here is one of his latest statements, asserting ending the war is a long way away. Linked to that statement is that the end of his presidency is also a long way away. I truly hope Trump publicly states all Ukrainian aid is ending immediately.
https://www.breitbart.com/news/ukraines-zelenskyy-says-end-of-war-with-russia-is-very-very-far-away/
”KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A deal to end the war between Ukraine and Russia “is still very, very far away,” Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said, adding that he expects to keep receiving American support despite his recent fraught relations with U.S. President Donald Trump.”
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Someone needs to tell Zelensky to fire whoever is advising him on how to deal with the new administration and the current sentiment of the American public. Stating that publicly is even dumber than anything even a moronic democrat would do.
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Fla2025 above
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I truly hope Trump publicly states all Ukrainian aid is ending immediately.”
Zzzz…
You have been saying this for years…
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It’s worth remembering, the basic construct of Lawfare is not necessarily to win the final legal challenges – Lawfare is designed to shape public opinion, impede the target and advance an adversarial narrative.
I find the above definitive purpose of lawfare machinations spot on, especially in lieu of such inappropriate judicial activism by US District Judges like Amy Berman Jackson.
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You have been saying this for years…
And you have been denying for years how much of a con man Zelenskyy really is, where the destruction of his country is less important to him than keeping himself in the limelight as president. You’re pathetically blind!
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Jason needs it spelled out…..
Van Orden is a Navy SEAL who supports aid to Israel and Taiwan, but not Ukraine. For that, Jason labels him as a Putin lover – a traitor to his country’s interests.
Van Orden is fair game for criticism of his policies. Questioning his loyalty to his country is an interesting choice for someone who foams at the mouth of anyone having a policy critique of St. McCain.
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Jan hates Zelensky more than Ukrainians do.
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Chi used to support Ukraine in its war to survive. Now he supports Trump and Putin’s plan to destroy Ukraine.
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So Zelenskyy says that the war is a long long way from ending? So he’s going to go on fighting until Russia is driven out of eastern Ukraine? Good luck with that strategy. Delusional much?
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Mollie
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Yesterday, Susan Rice said of the Trump-Zelensky meeting, “There is no question this was a set up.” She revealed full knowledge of the mineral agreement, complained that it didn’t include “concrete” security agrees (meaning, apparently, commitment of US troops on the ground if conditions merit), and then mischaracterized Trump’s behavior, counting on most Americans to not have watched what transpired over the entire hour in the Oval Office. You can look at this and dismiss it as typical Democrat talking points, but you could also view it as almost a confession, one that includes details about the current “Get Trump” effort. Yes, Trump won the popular vote against unbelievable odds, but if you think Team Obama is being any less involved in quiet insurrections than they were during the first Trump administration (Russia collusion, Ukraine impeachment, etc.), you’re clueless. I’ll remind you that Susan Rice was in the small Jan. 5, 2017 meeting in the WH with other key Russia collusion hoax perpetrators. Zelensky repeatedly declined opportunities to sign the deal in Kyiv and Munich, and requested the meeting at the White House. It later came out that Rice and Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, and Alexander Vindman may have been personally advising Zelensky to do this meeting in the way he did — that they recommended him to be hostile and to try to goad Trump into blowing up. Even though he didn’t, and even though Zelensky’s actions horrified many normal Americans, the Obama team went on the airwaves to falsely characterize what happened. I think their goal was to have a wonderful performance by Zelensky, an angry Trump appearing to scuttle the deal, and the support of the neocon portion of the GOP to start applying pressure on Trump to have US Troop commitments as part of the “security guarantee.” It was a set-up, in Susan Rice’s interesting choice of words. Instead, Zelensky had one of the worst stage performances of his acting career, and Trump was statesmanlike (against all odds) throughout. Zelensky followed Team Obama’s advice to be hostile to a tee, but it didn’t land how they thought it would. Surprisingly, one of the most important aspects of it not working out might have been Lindsay Graham’s reaction. Had he and other neocons thought Zelensky was being reasonable, Trump would be having to fight (even moreso) the neocon portion of the GOP in addition to Team Obama’s dirty tricks. Even the “conservative” neocon pundits on TV last night were admitting Zelensky had royally messed up. As you can see from the hostility of the bureaucracy to any Republican oversight, no matter how reasonable or minor it may be, the entrenched bureaucracy and permanent DC apparatus is quite active. That goes quadruple for the deep state in the Intelligence Community. I’d expect more and more shenanigans and to be prepared so that you don’t fall for the next information operation. The post-WWII architecture in Europe and the US needs this war to continue or be settled on “US troops on the ground” type guarantees, even though that’s not what Americans want. Things will heat up here, and it’s a very dangerous time.
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Jan hates Zelensky more than Ukrainians do.
As usual you distort the message of a poster siding with the Ukrainian people’s wish to negotiate a way out of this war. Instead, you protect and elevate the guy wanting to keep the death and destruction going on indefinitely. It’s like you have a bag over your head without any eye holes.
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“Chi used to support Ukraine in its war to survive.”
Still do. Just not willing to endlessly pay for something that hasn’t shown any success yet (in driving Russia out) and won’t in the future.
What’s the plan to drive the Russians out? How much, for how long? “For as long as it takes, and as much as it takes” is not a plan and is not gonna fly. I said a few years ago that the American public needs to see success to keep funding. You called me names, of course, but it worked out that way.
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The grifter lost a lot of allies.
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