Did I seriously see people getting worked up over a YouGov poll? I’m not going with the old “trash it” line, but there are much better pollsters out there. I suggest sorting through the field and not worrying about a second tier survey (at best).
I don’t claim to be an expert, but as an engineer and statistician, I do know that methodology matters, and YG is far from the best (see their UK polling, for example).
Did I seriously see people getting worked up over a YouGov poll?”
-Only Jason, doing his best imitation of a concern troll. No worries, I took care of him.”
Zzzzzz…
I feel sorry for NYC, he is going to be miserable if he is going to be triggered by the. posting of any poll bad for Trump.
In the old HHR, he would squeal like a stuck pig at any poll Dave posted that he didn’t like the results, and attack anyone who mentioned any poll that was not “litmus tested” by him.
So it is not a surprise he is back to his old ways.
As I said when I posted the YouGov poll, the numbers are not bad for Trump on their own. The issue is it showed an erosion of support, especially among young people, from the same poll done a couple weeks ago. It also showed an erosion in support for Musk and Doge and several other important Trump initiatives.
THis is not a surprise, Trump is taking a lot of hits from the MSM and the Dem establishment (need I repeat myself) but my point is that Trump and Musk need to counter the narrative with their own.
This is easier to do now, in the past Trump did not have the social media tools he has now with X, Truth Social, Rumble, Joe Rogan, etc. Musk is a smart guy and he should understand perception is important, so you need your own PR campaign.
If the whole Doge narrative by the MSM is that children are dying in Uganda for lack of USAID care, support is going to erode further. If the entire tariff narrative is about how prices and inflation will go up, support is going to erode further.
You can pretend to ignore this if you are an imbecilic moron like NYC, who sees everything as “if it is negative for Trump, bury it and/or attack it” or you can try to do something about it.
I’m not going with the old “trash it” line, but there are much better pollsters out there. I suggest sorting through the field and not worrying about a second tier survey (at best).”
Maybe.
But that was not the point. Their first poll for Trump was really good a couple weeks ago. I didn’t see anyone trashing it then.
So it they are a bad pollster, were they bad 2 weeks ago?
Yes, maybe this is agenda driven, show a good poll and then a bad one to drive a narrative. Kind of early for that, though.
VP JD VANCE: If American democracy can survive 10 years of Greta Thunberg's scolding, you guys can survive a few months of Elon Musk. pic.twitter.com/qLvQsYLttY
DW the other day posted a very succinct “log” of how the “misspending” in peeling the bandaid off the actual, festering, deep, morally reprehensible CORRUPTION that has been taking place for decades. The misspending is bad, but the corruption BEHIND the misspending is 100 times worse. And this is all done (technically) legally.
Clintons set up a foundation. People and other countries (who benefit from Clinton Admin actions) contribute to this foundation. Chelsea Clinton is appointed to run foundation. Other collaborators are appointed to serve on board of foundation or as officials and given big salaries.
They kick back a big chunk to Clinton (or whoever Clinton designates) political campaign.
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Maxine Waters hiring family members with campaign contributions and paying them BIG salaries.
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Hunter Biden doing ‘paintings’, which are then bought by anonymous donors for six figures.
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Not saying Repubs have not done the same thing, but the the Dems have perfected this to an art.
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NGOs created that gets lots of federal dollars, a lot of which goers to line pockets of political cronies or gets round about kicked back and laundered back to the politician.
ALL of this done within the LETTER of the LAW–but morally reprehensible and crooked as a dog’s hind leg.
I say, put 100 of the thing that Musk’s team is finding on the ballot nationwide to see it the American public votes YES or NO as to whether the American voters approve or not.
$50 million in condoms to Gaza? Yes No
2.7 Million to teach DEI in Uganda? Yes No
$300,000o for a transgender play in Ecuador? Yes No
Breaking: A Biden-appointed district judge just ruled that Trump MUST spend $50 Billion taxpayer dollars to spray paint the moon rainbow colors in time for 2025 Pride Month.
I will wait patiently for the next 4 years for the list of government bureaucrats and elected officials who get fired or go to jail for spending corruption…
Breaking: A Biden-appointed district judge just ruled that Trump MUST spend $100 Billion taxpayer dollars to forcibly castrate 5 million American boys, ages 5 to 10, selected by random draw of Social Security numbers.
NEW: Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez calls for the forced removal of New York City Mayor Eric Adams after he cooperates with the Trump administration’s deportations.
AOC: “We cannot be governed under coercion. If Adams won’t resign, he must be removed.”
So Democrats can call for the impeachment of other Democrats, but we cannot call for the impeachment of Democrats.
I am just calling them like I see them. But Trump is making mistakes too. Here is my list of things I wish Trump had not done/should stop doing:
End the absurd talk of making Canada the 51st state.
Tarrifs.
It wasn’t necessary to rename the Gulf of Mexico, but let it go, and stop demanding everyone comply with the change.
Stop ignoring the issue of inflation and the price of food. I know it takes time turn that wagon around, but explain it to the people and win the battle of optics on that one.
DW, I agree on #’s 1, 3 and somewhat on 4. I don’t think 4 is a big concern right now (and the polling you posted earlier supports that), but it will at some point. Trump seems to be in front of a camera half the day, so I imagine inflation will get on the list. Just my take.
Ah, Greta “How Dare You” Thunberg. The poster brat of generation Z. Now the spokesperson of Free Palestine. Question….what does the Palestinian people have to do with climate change? And does anyone know how many times she has been arrested? I’ve read of several of her earlier adult supporters disowning her and her beliefs and admitting the mistake they made in propping her up.
End the absurd talk of making Canada the 51st state.
Tarrifs.
It wasn’t necessary to rename the Gulf of Mexico, but let it go, and stop demanding everyone comply with the change.
Stop ignoring the issue of inflation and the price of food. I know it takes time turn that wagon around, but explain it to the people and win the battle of optics on that one”
Nahhh…
Just attack any pollster that shows these are issues that might affect his popularity.
THAT would be helpful.
In my view 2 and 4 are the most critical. I think most people understand 1 and 3 are hyperbole and/or nobody really cares.
Vance threaten military action if Putin refuses to negotiate.
In an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Thursday, Vance warned that further tough measures could be on the table for Russia if its president, Vladimir Putin, refuses to strike a deal with Ukraine that guarantees its neighbor’s sovereignty.
“There are economic tools of leverage, there are of course military tools of leverage,” he said.
Breaking: A Biden-appointed district judge just ruled that Trump MUST spend $200 Billion taxpayer dollars to send condoms to Mars, just in case there IS life there, and just in case they need to control their population explosion.
LAWFARE: The secretive federal judge that ordered Trump to resume sending taxpayer dollars to foreign NGOs was born in Canada and appointed by Biden. Before taking the bench he ran a Soros-funded NGO. pic.twitter.com/LmKCoXeLzk
NEW: Scott Galloway drops a brutal truth bomb about Democrat protests against Elon Musk.
This was so true that even Kara Swisher busted out laughing.
“It [Dem protests] looked more like a senior’s home on a canceled Jell-O night. It just wasn’t optically a good moment for us.” pic.twitter.com/R7ahfpZmBP
So this judge has decided that HE is the department of the treasury, and neither the congress nor the president has the authority to spend or not spend our money. Someone needs to teach this judge something about separation of powers.
President Trump is the ultimate deal maker and will bring peace to the region by ending the war in Ukraine. As we’ve always said, American troops should never be put into harm’s way where it doesn’t advance American interests and security. This war is between Russia and Ukraine.
I didn’t say Vance was offering troops on the ground, I oppose that myself.
What I said, and what he said, is that there is military leverage to threaten Putin with, and I interpreted that not as troops, but as further military aid.
Sorry Jason, stating one’s capability is far different than stating intent. The intent, confirmed at the end of Vance’s quote, is to seek a “productive”negotiated agreement between the two warring countries.
That was Vance’s follow up statement. It can be interpreted to mean it’s their war, not our’s. It also might indicate we are no longer going to play proxy to their war.
”As Hamilton observed in The Federalist No. 78, the judiciary is so functionally impotent that it “must ultimately depend upon the aid of the executive arm even for the efficacy of its judgments.” Consider, for instance, the possibility that McConnell in Rhode Island attempts to enforce a finding of criminal contempt against someone in the Trump administration. How exactly would that work? By ordering jail time for Trump, Attorney General Pam Bondi or someone else in the administration? The U.S. Marshals Service would presumably be responsible for carrying out such an order — but those marshals work for Bondi, who works for Trump. Perhaps more relevant, if someone in the administration were to be found in contempt by a federal judge such as McConnell, Trump could simply issue a pardon. “Constitutional crisis” averted!
The Republican-led Congress could also join in on the anti-judicial “resistance” fun by meting out both large and small punishments to the judges who are now interfering with executive authority with their dubious nationwide injunctions. Congress could file articles of impeachment against wayward judges, dissolve entire lower-court judgeships, or strip lower-court judges of jurisdiction over certain types of cases — or even pettily demand that jurists pay out of their own pockets if they want their robes dry cleaned. Congress has nearly limitless tools at its disposal to rein in an overweening judiciary — tools it ought to use more often.”
NEW: After a corrupt federal judge ordered gender ideology webpages to be restored, the Trump administration brilliantly placed notices on the pages strongly condemning gender nonsense.
“Any information on this page promoting gender ideology is extremely inaccurate and… pic.twitter.com/EpCtP3Y68w
The secretive federal judge that ordered Trump to resume sending taxpayer dollars to foreign NGOs was born in Canada and appointed by Biden. Before taking the bench he ran a Soros-funded NGO
From Jan’s earlier post….”Congress could file articles of impeachment against wayward judges, dissolve entire lower-court judgeships, or strip lower-court judges of jurisdiction over certain types of cases — or even pettily demand that jurists pay out of their own pockets if they want their robes dry cleaned. Congress has nearly limitless tools at its disposal to rein in an overweening judiciary — tools it ought to use more often.”
As this points out, there are plenty of things that can be done or threatened to get the Judiciary to move quicker, short of ignoring court orders. Trump was hired to bring the heat.
Chief Roberts is known to be conscious of the image of the Judiciary. A little heat under his rear might cause him to review cases directly.
Bottom line…..something more that “just file an appeal” is called for, even if it causes Jason to chafe more than is already the case.
I predict no judge is going to be impeached and convicted.
Taking bets.
In the first place, only 15 judges have been convicted in US history, and of those only 8 have been convicted. And none for ruling
Second, you need 2/3 of the Senate to go along, and that is not going to happen with a 53/47 Senate.
So Chicon can talk himself blue in the face about impeachment, but it would be a waste of time.
Of course, in a perfect world the judiciary itself should sanction rogue judges, and they should be disbarred.
The problem is Clinton and Obama and Biden filled the judiciary with left wing judges, so it is hard to get any kind of “justice” for judges like McConnell.
113 responses to “1000th thread at the new HHR! GFY”
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With each passing day, we are one day closer to the end of Donald Trump’s Presidency.
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3rd! Congrats on 1000!
Did I seriously see people getting worked up over a YouGov poll? I’m not going with the old “trash it” line, but there are much better pollsters out there. I suggest sorting through the field and not worrying about a second tier survey (at best).
I don’t claim to be an expert, but as an engineer and statistician, I do know that methodology matters, and YG is far from the best (see their UK polling, for example).
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“Did I seriously see people getting worked up over a YouGov poll?”
-Only Jason, doing his best imitation of a concern troll. No worries, I took care of him.
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And YES, Congrats to Bitterlaw, and DW and VictrC, for the 1000th post on HHR Phoenix!
Thank You Very Much for the work you all have put in!
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With each passing day, we are one day closer to the end of Donald Trump’s Presidency
Now why would you post that statement unless you were a poor-loser-dem or a never trumper?
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I saw RFK on Fox last night. Sounds totally scary. Not……
The performance of HHS has been nearly as bad as that of the Department of Education.
Chicon
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Paul, why are you hiding behind Anonymous?
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Test
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Jason sez….Test.
Fail.
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Did I seriously see people getting worked up over a YouGov poll?”
-Only Jason, doing his best imitation of a concern troll. No worries, I took care of him.”
Zzzzzz…
I feel sorry for NYC, he is going to be miserable if he is going to be triggered by the. posting of any poll bad for Trump.
In the old HHR, he would squeal like a stuck pig at any poll Dave posted that he didn’t like the results, and attack anyone who mentioned any poll that was not “litmus tested” by him.
So it is not a surprise he is back to his old ways.
As I said when I posted the YouGov poll, the numbers are not bad for Trump on their own. The issue is it showed an erosion of support, especially among young people, from the same poll done a couple weeks ago. It also showed an erosion in support for Musk and Doge and several other important Trump initiatives.
THis is not a surprise, Trump is taking a lot of hits from the MSM and the Dem establishment (need I repeat myself) but my point is that Trump and Musk need to counter the narrative with their own.
This is easier to do now, in the past Trump did not have the social media tools he has now with X, Truth Social, Rumble, Joe Rogan, etc. Musk is a smart guy and he should understand perception is important, so you need your own PR campaign.
If the whole Doge narrative by the MSM is that children are dying in Uganda for lack of USAID care, support is going to erode further. If the entire tariff narrative is about how prices and inflation will go up, support is going to erode further.
You can pretend to ignore this if you are an imbecilic moron like NYC, who sees everything as “if it is negative for Trump, bury it and/or attack it” or you can try to do something about it.
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Jason sez….Test.
Fail.
Chicon”
Noted.
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With each passing day, we are one day closer to the end of Donald Trump’s Presidency
Now why would you post that statement unless you were a poor-loser-dem or a never trumper?”
Because Paul IS a poor-loser-Dem.
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Sounds totally scary. “
He sounds scary no matter what he says.
Not his fault. He has a neurological disorder called spasmodic dysphonia, which he only got at 46.
No, there is no vaccine (yet) for it.
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I’m not going with the old “trash it” line, but there are much better pollsters out there. I suggest sorting through the field and not worrying about a second tier survey (at best).”
Maybe.
But that was not the point. Their first poll for Trump was really good a couple weeks ago. I didn’t see anyone trashing it then.
So it they are a bad pollster, were they bad 2 weeks ago?
Yes, maybe this is agenda driven, show a good poll and then a bad one to drive a narrative. Kind of early for that, though.
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Trump approval daily tracking
🟢 Approve: 54% (+10)
🔴 Disapprove: 44%
@Rasmussen_Poll
| 1,500 LV | 2/9-13
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QuantusInsights
President Trump
🟢 Approve: 53% (+9)
🟤 Disapprove: 44%
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DOGE Approval
🟢 Approve: 49% (+4)
🟤 Disapprove: 45%
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2026 Generic Ballot
🔴 GOP: 48%
🔵 DEM: 44%
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1,000 RV | February 10-12 | MoE: ±3.5%
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two of the most accurate pollsters from last year.
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Trash those polls, DW, they don’t meet the concern narrative.
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Something I think we all agree on (except Anonymous)….
https://redstate.com/streiff/2025/02/14/thousands-of-federal-employees-dismissed-as-trump-begins-first-round-reducing-government-n2185581
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We need hundreds of thousands of federal employees fired, but it’s a start.
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For the first time in over 20 years of polling, Right Direction EXCEEDS Wrong Track today.
Rasmussen Polls Highest Number EVER of Americans Saying Country is on the Right Track.
But…..YouGov……
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Trump would be higher in the polls, if he did not shut down USAID.
-free passer
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YouGov was 25th out of 31 pollsters of the 7 battleground states.
Quantus ranked 7th, Rasmussen 9th.
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https://hhrphoenix.com/2024/11/06/2024-polling-grades/#SS
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Tina, Vance so far seems a lot like Trump without as much jackarse mixed in.
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Who was “anonymous” promoting the Covid vax in the last thread? A free passer?
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The Euro trash is triggered by Vance’s excellent speech. This may have been the best speech ever.
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DW the other day posted a very succinct “log” of how the “misspending” in peeling the bandaid off the actual, festering, deep, morally reprehensible CORRUPTION that has been taking place for decades. The misspending is bad, but the corruption BEHIND the misspending is 100 times worse. And this is all done (technically) legally.
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Tina, I believe Vance was called a deadender here on HHR back when he ran for Senate.
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Has anyone else noticed you never see “anonymous” and Jason around on HHR at the same time?
Curious and curiouser.
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Tina said…The Euro trash is triggered by Vance’s excellent speech. This may have been the best speech ever.
Tina’s completely correct. Outstanding speech and message.
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Clintons set up a foundation. People and other countries (who benefit from Clinton Admin actions) contribute to this foundation. Chelsea Clinton is appointed to run foundation. Other collaborators are appointed to serve on board of foundation or as officials and given big salaries.
They kick back a big chunk to Clinton (or whoever Clinton designates) political campaign.
*******
Maxine Waters hiring family members with campaign contributions and paying them BIG salaries.
******
Hunter Biden doing ‘paintings’, which are then bought by anonymous donors for six figures.
******
Not saying Repubs have not done the same thing, but the the Dems have perfected this to an art.
*********
NGOs created that gets lots of federal dollars, a lot of which goers to line pockets of political cronies or gets round about kicked back and laundered back to the politician.
ALL of this done within the LETTER of the LAW–but morally reprehensible and crooked as a dog’s hind leg.
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FIRST, HOW do we stop this?
SECOND, will ANYONE actually go to jail over these type things. (I bet NOT)
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Trump wants to cut out waste, fraud and abuse.
Yet $20 was spent by government to allow Trump to attend the Super Bowl?
Yet Trump is offering fed govt employees 9 months salary if they retire now?
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VP JD VANCE: If American democracy can survive 10 years of Greta Thunberg’s scolding, you guys can survive a few months of Elon Musk.
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Said by nobody at HHR
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Corruption, fraud, waste and abuse are like the weather.
Everyone wants to talk about it, but actually do nothing to change it.
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Different IP addresses.
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Breaking: A Biden-appointed district judge just ruled that Vice President Vance must immediately take back what he said in his speech in Europe.
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I say, put 100 of the thing that Musk’s team is finding on the ballot nationwide to see it the American public votes YES or NO as to whether the American voters approve or not.
$50 million in condoms to Gaza? Yes No
2.7 Million to teach DEI in Uganda? Yes No
$300,000o for a transgender play in Ecuador? Yes No
etc, etc.
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Anonymous is the same as “Paul” who was posting here before the election.
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This is my offering for discussion…
Will it be discussed here?
Probably not.
Oh well…
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The already low ratings for Congress will absolutely plummet due to what Musk is finding.
They allowed all this to happen, while they were all busy trying to gather in more campaign contributions for their next election.
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Breaking: A Biden-appointed district judge just ruled that Trump MUST spend $50 Billion taxpayer dollars to spray paint the moon rainbow colors in time for 2025 Pride Month.
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Walt, those things could easily be put into a public opinion poll. I am surprised Rasmussen Reports hasn’t done that yet.
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Why do we even have a system that allows former president Clinton to go give a speech in Russia and get $500,000?
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I will wait patiently for the next 4 years for the list of government bureaucrats and elected officials who get fired or go to jail for spending corruption…
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Breaking: A Biden-appointed district judge just ruled that Trump MUST spend $100 Billion taxpayer dollars to forcibly castrate 5 million American boys, ages 5 to 10, selected by random draw of Social Security numbers.
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Yes, Vance is a Deadender.
-free passer
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nononononononononononono
nononononononononononono
nononononononononononono
Walt – How I would vote.
Congress is supposed to appropriate, not pass the $$ to the bureaucrats to do their job.
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Walt, that list of questions would make for a fun poll.
As you point out, though, those are simply the initial payment in a scheme that ends up in the lawmaker’s account.
I’m not holding my breath, either, on charges.
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Walt, how’s Don’s wife?
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NEW: Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez calls for the forced removal of New York City Mayor Eric Adams after he cooperates with the Trump administration’s deportations.
AOC: “We cannot be governed under coercion. If Adams won’t resign, he must be removed.”
So Democrats can call for the impeachment of other Democrats, but we cannot call for the impeachment of Democrats.
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DW starting to really sound like a “cultist”!
😂
Welcome, come right in, the fire is warm and being stoked, continuously!
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I believe Homan is recommending AOC be criminally charged for interfering with the deportation of illegals.
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I am just calling them like I see them. But Trump is making mistakes too. Here is my list of things I wish Trump had not done/should stop doing:
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Jan said…I believe Homan is recommending AOC be criminally charged for interfering with the deportation of illegals.
He said on Fox last night that he asked the deputy AG for an opinion about whether her actions amounted to “impeding” ICE.
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DW, I agree on #’s 1, 3 and somewhat on 4. I don’t think 4 is a big concern right now (and the polling you posted earlier supports that), but it will at some point. Trump seems to be in front of a camera half the day, so I imagine inflation will get on the list. Just my take.
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I don’t know why the drats want to defend fraud, waste and abuse. Have at it.
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DOGE expected to be at the Pentagon today,
This may be another “mother lode” of fraud, waste, and abuse.
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Ah, Greta “How Dare You” Thunberg. The poster brat of generation Z. Now the spokesperson of Free Palestine. Question….what does the Palestinian people have to do with climate change? And does anyone know how many times she has been arrested? I’ve read of several of her earlier adult supporters disowning her and her beliefs and admitting the mistake they made in propping her up.
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Follow up….that was my comment (John Goggin) and not A about Miss Thumberg.
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Trump approval daily tracking
Approve: 54% (+10) Disapprove: 44%”
I hope that passes NYC’s litmus test for polls, although I am sure he thinks Trump is up by 20.
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End the absurd talk of making Canada the 51st state.
Tarrifs.
It wasn’t necessary to rename the Gulf of Mexico, but let it go, and stop demanding everyone comply with the change.
Stop ignoring the issue of inflation and the price of food. I know it takes time turn that wagon around, but explain it to the people and win the battle of optics on that one”
Nahhh…
Just attack any pollster that shows these are issues that might affect his popularity.
THAT would be helpful.
In my view 2 and 4 are the most critical. I think most people understand 1 and 3 are hyperbole and/or nobody really cares.
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Greta is a little communist moron, but she is useful as a prop. I am sure the people who use her think she is an idiot too.
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If Adams won’t resign, he must be removed.”
Sounds like an insurrection.
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e it the American public votes YES or NO as to whether the American voters approve or not.
$50 million in condoms to Gaza? Yes No
2.7 Million to teach DEI in Uganda? Yes No
$300,000o for a transgender play in Ecuador? Yes No”
Unfortunately these are not the questions they will ask. They will ask
Should starving children be left to die in Uganda?
Should pregnant women be denied life saving treatment in Botswana?
Should oxygen be cut off to patients in hospitals in Bangladesh?
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Damm… this will trigger the Putinistas.
Vance threaten military action if Putin refuses to negotiate.
In an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Thursday, Vance warned that further tough measures could be on the table for Russia if its president, Vladimir Putin, refuses to strike a deal with Ukraine that guarantees its neighbor’s sovereignty.
“There are economic tools of leverage, there are of course military tools of leverage,” he said.
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I would imagine the “military tools” would be to arm Ukraine to the teeth.
Good.
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Trash those polls, DW, they don’t meet the concern narrative.
Chicon”
Says the guy who wants to trash the YouGov poll because it doesn’t fit HIS narrative.
The hypocrisy is astounding.
People who feel threatened by anyone posting a poll that they don’t like are insecure imbecilic morons.
Of course, Chicon IS an insecure imbecilic moron.
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Breaking: A Biden-appointed district judge just ruled that Trump MUST spend $200 Billion taxpayer dollars to send condoms to Mars, just in case there IS life there, and just in case they need to control their population explosion.
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/02/14/vice-president-vance-scheduled-to-meet-president-zelenskyy-in-munich-tonight-as-jd-vance-stuns-the-eu-with-confrontation-of-their-hypocrisy/
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I don’t feel threatened or encouraged by any poll. I just look at the logic of it.
If a pollster finished 25th out of 31 in last year’s battleground state polling, I don’t give a hoot what they say now, if its good or bad for Trump.
But if a pollster was in the top ten for accuracy, then I will pay attention, whether its good news or bad news for Trump.
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Tell him to pound sand.
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Vance threatens military action if Putin refuses to negotiate.”
Actually, although Bitter attacked me for it, I predicted this might be what happens.
Trump might use a carrot and stick approach on both Putin and Zelensky.
Threaten Putin with MORE military aid and sanctions, and threaten Zelensky to cut off aid.
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I don’t feel threatened or encouraged by any poll. I just look at the logic of it.”
I was referring to Chicon, not you.
I know you post polls whatever they say.
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Maria Gentry
@qued3point14
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Wow, the WSJ has fallen so far. This is sad. Traditional journalism is dead. Do they even teach it in school anymore? This is what was actually said:
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So this judge has decided that HE is the department of the treasury, and neither the congress nor the president has the authority to spend or not spend our money. Someone needs to teach this judge something about separation of powers.
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LAWFARE: The secretive federal judge that ordered Trump to resume sending taxpayer dollars to foreign NGOs was born in Canada “
Born in Canada! Horrors!
Whoever wrote this must have gone to the same School of Who is a Superior Citizen that NYC moron attended.
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I knew Vance’s comments would trigger the Putinista Nurse.
But it is clear as day.
“Military tools of leverage”.
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The WSJ totally misstated what Vance said. Vance’s bottom line was the wish to have a “productive negotiation” with Putin.
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And of course janzam’s contention that great Ukrainian patriot and US ally Zelensky was going to be “ignored” in the talks was a huge crock of crap.
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Military tools of leverage”.
The arm chair warrior is dreaming about this…from afar.
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Vance’s bottom line was the wish to have a “productive negotiation” with Puti”
Yes, but with the implied threat that if Putin did not want to negotiate then there were economic and military consequences on the table.
What is it about that you don’t understand?
Are you really worried Putin will be threatened with economic and military consequences?
If so, why?
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Military tools of leverage”.
Vance’s words, not mine.
But I am certainly glad he said them, and so should you if you weren’t a Putinista plant.
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“The WSJ totally misstated what Vance said”
Where?
The quote is right there, you posted it yourself.
“There are, of course, military tools of leverage:”
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Further updated clarification from Vance, himself:
JD Vance
@JDVance
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President Trump is the ultimate deal maker and will bring peace to the region by ending the war in Ukraine. As we’ve always said, American troops should never be put into harm’s way where it doesn’t advance American interests and security. This war is between Russia and Ukraine.
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I don’t feel threatened or encouraged by any poll. I just look at the logic of it.”
DW, its fine to point out the record of the pollster. You provide a lot of clarity on that I know it takes time to research.
Although, in this case we were comparing two polls by the same poster, 2 weeks apart not against any other.
What is not fine is to attack anyone posting a poll as a “concern troll”.
I am sure you can see the difference.
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Zzzzz…
I didn’t say Vance was offering troops on the ground, I oppose that myself.
What I said, and what he said, is that there is military leverage to threaten Putin with, and I interpreted that not as troops, but as further military aid.
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So janzam, please explain why YOU would be opposed to
“There are, of course, military tools of leverage:”
This should be good.
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Sorry Jason, stating one’s capability is far different than stating intent. The intent, confirmed at the end of Vance’s quote, is to seek a “productive”negotiated agreement between the two warring countries.
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This probably got Jason so excited he won’t need the little blue pill for a week!
Vance threaten military action if Putin refuses to negotiate.
Chicon
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”This war is between Russia and Ukraine.”
That was Vance’s follow up statement. It can be interpreted to mean it’s their war, not our’s. It also might indicate we are no longer going to play proxy to their war.
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I left a couple gun ads with the gun i wanted circled lying around the coffee table in case my wife was wondering what to get me for Valentine’s.
So far I got nothing. I hope she likes the new meat slicer I got her.
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So janzam, please explain why YOU would be opposed to
“There are, of course, military tools of leverage:”
This should be good.
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It can be interpreted to mean it’s their war, not our’s.”
Wow, that there is some deep thinking….
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This probably got Jason so excited he won’t need the little blue pill for a week!”
From the reaction to the meat slicer it might be longer than that.
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https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2025/02/14/the_judicial_resistance_is_setting_itself_up_for_an_epic_smackdown_152366.html
A response over the recent judicial overreach:
”As Hamilton observed in The Federalist No. 78, the judiciary is so functionally impotent that it “must ultimately depend upon the aid of the executive arm even for the efficacy of its judgments.” Consider, for instance, the possibility that McConnell in Rhode Island attempts to enforce a finding of criminal contempt against someone in the Trump administration. How exactly would that work? By ordering jail time for Trump, Attorney General Pam Bondi or someone else in the administration? The U.S. Marshals Service would presumably be responsible for carrying out such an order — but those marshals work for Bondi, who works for Trump. Perhaps more relevant, if someone in the administration were to be found in contempt by a federal judge such as McConnell, Trump could simply issue a pardon. “Constitutional crisis” averted!
The Republican-led Congress could also join in on the anti-judicial “resistance” fun by meting out both large and small punishments to the judges who are now interfering with executive authority with their dubious nationwide injunctions. Congress could file articles of impeachment against wayward judges, dissolve entire lower-court judgeships, or strip lower-court judges of jurisdiction over certain types of cases — or even pettily demand that jurists pay out of their own pockets if they want their robes dry cleaned. Congress has nearly limitless tools at its disposal to rein in an overweening judiciary — tools it ought to use more often.”
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The Marshalls should arrest the judge for obstruction and stupidity.
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Jason’s judge!!!
The secretive federal judge that ordered Trump to resume sending taxpayer dollars to foreign NGOs was born in Canada and appointed by Biden. Before taking the bench he ran a Soros-funded NGO
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From Jan’s earlier post….”Congress could file articles of impeachment against wayward judges, dissolve entire lower-court judgeships, or strip lower-court judges of jurisdiction over certain types of cases — or even pettily demand that jurists pay out of their own pockets if they want their robes dry cleaned. Congress has nearly limitless tools at its disposal to rein in an overweening judiciary — tools it ought to use more often.”
As this points out, there are plenty of things that can be done or threatened to get the Judiciary to move quicker, short of ignoring court orders. Trump was hired to bring the heat.
Chief Roberts is known to be conscious of the image of the Judiciary. A little heat under his rear might cause him to review cases directly.
Bottom line…..something more that “just file an appeal” is called for, even if it causes Jason to chafe more than is already the case.
Chicon
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Wow!
Born in Canada (must be a second class US citizen).
Secretive (must be Deep State)
Now there is some red meat there if you are a xenophobic racist or a conspiracy theorist.
If you are both, double wow.
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“demand that jurists pay out of their own pockets if they want their robes dry cleaned”
Wow.
Judges are going to crap their pants on that one.
And no dry cleaning!
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So janzam, please explain why YOU would be opposed to
“There are, of course, military tools of leverage:”
This should be good.”
Still waiting…
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I predict no judge is going to be impeached and convicted.
Taking bets.
In the first place, only 15 judges have been convicted in US history, and of those only 8 have been convicted. And none for ruling
Second, you need 2/3 of the Senate to go along, and that is not going to happen with a 53/47 Senate.
So Chicon can talk himself blue in the face about impeachment, but it would be a waste of time.
Of course, in a perfect world the judiciary itself should sanction rogue judges, and they should be disbarred.
The problem is Clinton and Obama and Biden filled the judiciary with left wing judges, so it is hard to get any kind of “justice” for judges like McConnell.
Elections have consequences.
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And none for one ruling against the President I should add above.
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In the first place, only 15 judges have been convicted in US history”
Impeached, only 8 convicted, sorry.
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There is also the dc judge Nicholas handling the usaid. He is a piece of work. Was appointed by trump.
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NT
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