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Trump – Day 2. Any new topic, DW

36 responses to “Trump – Day 2. Any new topic, DW”

  1. Below are four separate quotes about Ronald Reagan’s belief he had been spared from the assassin’s bullet by God. It is clear Reagan had the same reaction as did Trump. Will Bitter also believe that Reagan was “arrogant”? It is easy for Bitter to believe Trump is an idiot for his belief he was spared by God. Will he also consider Reagan an idiot?

    “Reagan believed he had been spared for a reason, a sentiment he expressed in his diary on his first evening back in the White House. “I know it’s going to be a long recovery,” he wrote. ” Whatever happens now I owe my life to God and will try to serve him every way I can.”

    https://www.washingtonian.com/2011/03/10/the-saving-of-the-president/
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    “Ronnie himself certainly believed that he had been given back his life for a purpose,” said Thatcher, a close ally of Reagan. “And surely it is hard to deny that Ronald Reagan’s life was providential when we look at what he achieved in the eight years that followed.”
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    “Reagan grew from the experience. In his diary, he wrote he prayed for the man who shot him. The day fundamentally transformed the president’s worldview. He believed his life had been spared by God for a reason — to reduce the threat of nuclear war.”

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2020-10-02/when-reagan-shot-country-rallied-he-hadnt-spent-months-downplaying-assassins
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    Carl Bernstein and Marco Politi, in their biography of the Pope, dramatically conclude: “For the Pope, Reagan had been … an instrument in the hands of God.” The feeling was mutual. According to a number of sources, the two men confided in one another that they believed God had spared their lives for a special mission.”

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  2. jasonyupanqui47 Avatar

    ZZZZZ…..

    Chicon hates Ronald Reagan and everything he stood for, but at the same time has a compelling desire to compare Trump to Reagan.

    Seek professional help.

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  3. jasonyupanqui47 Avatar

    Christopher Hayes of MSNBC refers to Trump as a cult leader. Bitter and Jason tied in with MSNBC? Seems so….

    Can the majority of the US voting population accurately be called a cult?

    Chicon”

    No, because if truth be known, not even the majority of the people who voted for Trump are Cultists.

    Probably less than 25% of the population is hard core MAGA. That is a majority in the R party but a minority even among Trump voters.

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  4. jasonyupanqui47 Avatar

    Cult logic:

    Both Trump and Reagan believed they were saved from assassination attempts for a higher purpose (which may well be true, I actually tend to agree). It doesn’t mean I think God is a Republican like ssq does, but I do believe things happen for a reason.

    But does that means Trump = Reagan? No.

    That is like saying Biden = Trump because they both like ice cream.

    Idiotic.

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    Thinking more on this, there has to be, easily, millions of Americans who think that an illegal alien immigrant giving birth on American soil that automatically gives U.S. citizenship to that child is an idea which needs to be clarified and/or rectified.”

    Millions of Americans believe the Constitution says only a militia has the right to bear arms.

    They are wrong too.

    The 14th Amendment is very clear, it doesn’t need “clarification”.

    If you want it “rectified”, get an amendment passed.

    Or GFY

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  6. The J6 committee destroyed a large number of documents that could have been used in the J6ers’ defense, Brady material, that is.

    So the defendants were denied all exculpatory evidence in preparation for trial and considering a guilty plea.

    This violation of constitutional rights necessitated pardons.

    (trumps justification for pardons)

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  7. jasonyupanqui47 Avatar

    Its 2 degrees here. I blame Trump.

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  8. Will Bitter also believe that Reagan was “arrogant”?

    Yes. Will Chi explain why God thought the lives of Reagan and Trump were more important than my niece? Because if you believe that God deemed Reagan and Trump worth saving, you must also believe that God did not deem my niece worthy.

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  9. Jason the JD has told the masses what the writers of the 14th amendment meant; no need for the Supreme Court to interpret what they meant when they added the subject to the jurisdiction thereof lingo.

    Chicon

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  10. Ask God, I am not his spokesperson

    Chicon

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  11. FIRED: CNN is reporting that the David Pekoske the TSA Administrator who put @TulsiGabbard on “Quiet Skies” terrorist watch list has been fired. The Hammer of Justice is here… Show more

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  12. But you push the narrative that God saved Trump and Reagan from death. You wanted to speak for God then. Speak now.

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  13. jasonyupanqui47 Avatar

    no need for the Supreme Court to interpret what they meant when they added the subject to the jurisdiction thereof lingo.”

    Exactly. It has been so “interpreted” since 1868 because everyone understands what “born or naturalized in the United States” means.

    I predict Trump’s EO will be shot down by the courts and if people want the Constitution changed they will have to get an amendment.

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  14. It is interesting that many of those initially opposed to birthright citizenship in the 14th Amendment opposed it because it gave blacks citizenship in a GFY to the Dred Scott decision.

    The language is clear.

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  15. jasonyupanqui47 Avatar

    Bitter, I believe that God’s ways are not our ways.

    Saying that God could not have spared Reagan and Trump’s lives because he did not spare you niece is trying to assign logic to God’s actions.

    Countless tragedies occur each day. By same same token countless “miracles” do too.

    I don’t pretend to understand why, but I think you are wrong to try to put it in black and white

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    (trumps justification for pardons)”

    I don’t believe that dog will hunt.

    Most J6 trials and convictions happened before the j6 committee destroyed any documents.

    I think Trump was wrong to pardon violent J6 offenders, and wrong in not letting the AG review it case by case.

    It is a horrible precedent that will one day come back to bite us, bet on it.

    But it is done, there will be many things Trump does I won’t agree with. such is life.

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  17. Will have a new thread later this afternoon.

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    It is interesting that many of those initially opposed to birthright citizenship in the 14th Amendment opposed it because it gave blacks citizenship in a GFY”

    That is why a racist xenophobe scumbag like NYC doesn’t get a pass for opposing it.

    You can bet the reasons he opposes it is for racist reasons.

    The same reason that he thinks he is a better citizen than citizens not born here and why he thinks I should “go back to where I am from”.

    There IS no legitimate reason not to accept people born in the US as citizens. I don’t care if the baby was born 5 minutes after the mother climbed over the wall. That baby should be as American as anyone here. That baby is as American as any direct descendant of people on the Mayflower.

    If you want to restrict births by illegal foreign nationals the way to do it is to secure the border.

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  19. I understand what you are saying but that is not what Chi is saying. The Cult believes that God actively chose to save Trump. Implicit in that is Trump was worth saving and my niece wasn’t. If that is true, then there is no reason for me to believe in God.

    I admit that I failed my niece. Why can’t the Cult admit that Trump lived only because he happened to turn his head?

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  20. Breaking New – With the exception of Jason, every poster at HHR is an American citizen because of birthright citizenship.

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  21. jasonyupanqui47 Avatar

    But some are “better” citizens than others.

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    “I understand what you are saying but that is not what Chi is saying. The Cult believes that God actively chose to save Trump. Implicit in that is Trump was worth saving and my niece wasn’t.”

    Well he is wrong about that.

    But I don’t deny that God may have saved Trump for a higher purpose despite not saving other worthy people.

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    I admit that I failed my niece. Why can’t the Cult admit that Trump lived only because he happened to turn his head?”

    I think both memes are wrong.

    You didn’t fail your niece. Despite reading every post you have written about her and her situation I have never seen a compelling argument that anything you did or didn’t do would have changed anything. Sometime model parents who do everything have children who are criminal and murderers. Sometime people in loving supporting families commit suicide anyway.

    And why did Trump turn his head? Couldn’t that be the hand of God? Who are we to state otherwise?

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  24. My niece was a social worker at a hospital for mentally ill patients. I guess that wasn’t worthy enough.

    I get it. Nobody cares about my war with God. I would gladly trade my life for hers but God doesn’t make deals.

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  25. Biden’s economy was so bad that J.D. Vance couldn’t afford a babysitter for yesterday’s inauguration.

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  26. Bitter, I hurt for you in the loss of your niece. Time doesn’t heal all wounds. I once spent a few years helping to counsel someone whose child was run over and killed in front of their house.

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  27. Thank you. I honestly don’t know how my bother and his wife get up every day and keep living.

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  28. Trump issues memo to repeal limits on ICE agents imposed by Mayorkas, allowing the ‘gloves to come off’ – Fox ICE agents say this will let them detain and deport more illegals. It will no longer allow schools, healthcare facilities, places of worship, etc. be “protected areas” where ICE can’t detain people. Another memo from Trump seeks to limit use of “humanitarian parole” – letting migrants enter the U.S. without being detained.

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  30. That’s basically right Bitter, except the Garden Tomb is almost certainly not the place where Jesus’ body was laid.

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  31. New Thread, and new idea for thread starter. It will either succeed or fail.

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  32. I was listening to Julie Kelly this morning. She was reporting that J6 prisoners are being released from federal prisons all over the country. Many of these men and women (most having no criminal record) were imprisoned for minor infractions, for years along side hardcore people incarcerated for hardcore crimes. The DC “gulag” though is dragging their feet because of “paperwork having to be signed.” Unfortunately the select committee had the temerity to destroy taped testimonies and other evidence that had exculpatory information which would have benefited those being tried, erroneously sentenced and sadly imprisoned. It all seems that what happened to these J6ers are narratives belonging more in Russia or China jurisdictions, not in America. However, once covers are pulled, indecent political maneuvering is exposed, human right violations are tabulated, and prison abuses documented I hope accountability and shame will accompany this unacceptable slice of history.

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  33. Well DJT is off to a great start. Using that Article 2 authority with a vengeance! I guess he might be over his I want to be liked in DC complex. Awesome to behold.

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  34. Trump is doing now to the administrative state what I knew DeSantis for sure would do. I am happy.

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  35. Keep going Trump!

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