Let’s go to what state in this election were you most encouraged and most disappointed in this election?
Encouraged:
New York – Trump cut the 23 pt margin from 2020 to less than than 13 pts in 2024.. He flipped important counties like Nassau and Rockland and almost doubled the R vote in Bronx Co. from 15% to 27%. 10 pt gain in Queens, 5 points in Manhattan.
I suspect this is not all “Trump”. It might suggest a more permanent swing in the Jewish, Hispanic and Black vote away from the Dems.
Disappointed:
Colorado – Trump lost by 11 points vs. 13 in 2020, a very small gain compared to most states. That is worse than New Jersey and close to IL and NY. Double the margin of MN. The Dems now dominate not only the Denver area but most of the mountain counties west of it all the way to the Utah border.
This suggests a more permanent “blue trend” . Rs did pick up a House seat by a tiny margin but the outlook looks bleak.
PA is encouraging because there are red parts are getting redder and the blue parts that were getting bluer seem to have stabilized.
GA is disappointing because there is an opposite trend, the Atlanta metro area seems to be getting bluer and is growing fast, contrary to Philadelphia metro. Just from 2020 to now Philadelphia has lost almost 4% of its population. You might think well they are leaving Philly and moving into the surrounding counties and still voting Dem but actually the surrounding counties, with the exception of Chester that gained 2.8%, the others had very small gains or none (Delco +0.1%, Montco + 1.3%, Bucks 0%.)
My county has been growing rapidly. When I was a kid we had less than 25,000 population in the whole county. About 75,000 in the whole county when I started serving in the legislature 2003. Today, we have about 130,000. Neighboring Jefferson county went from about 15,000 back then to about 80,000 now.
People are packed in closer now to one another, but people are more isolated from one another and ever.
When I was a kid, everyone knew everyone in you community. Now people do not even know much about their next door neighbors.
With all this growth in population, you would think that various organizations would be growing in numbers. NOT TRUE.
For example, we used to have a bunch of volunteer fire departments that provided fire and ambulance service to our community. Volunteers. People joined the fire department. Now we have 5 times the population but very few people are volunteering and joining the vol. fire depts. So we have to raise taxes to pay for paid fire and EMS.
A FEW civic groups and organizations are experiencing some growth, but most are not.
Churches–attendance has absolutely PLUMMETED. A few exceptions Bering the two huge Catholic churches in Berkeley and Jefferson counties. Plus one or two huge independent churches have a thousand or more members. But most long established churches that used to have two or three hundred attendees every Sunday now have maybe 10 to 40 people. Yes COVID helped do that.
High School football and basketball games USED to have jammed pack crowds. Thousands went to every game. Not any more. The stands are pretty bare any more.
We used to have more malls in our county than we do now. We have fewer businesses in Martinsburg (21,000) than we did 50 years ago.
Our growth in population here is NOT home grown. Lots of people moving in here, majority being from MD and VA suburbs of D.C. My theory is that these people were anonymous citizens in those communities, did not know their neighbors, did not get involved in their communities, kept to themselves, etc. And when they move here, they bring those internal values with them.
–Our % of voter participation has plummeted (worst in the State of WV)
–Our amount of crime in up
–lots of other “bad” number are up and “good” numbers are down.
The changes in your county mirror what has happened just about everywhere, Walt.
Remember people in those days had no other way to communicate and organize except through community links and events. Today people communicate by computer, social media and cell phones.
I know a woman who told me she watches her church service online and sends in a check every month. She says she is “too busy” to actually drive to church.
But I am sure the other reasons you mention have an impact too.
20 responses to “Christmas Eve Eve”
So Bitter’s survey sucked.
Let’s go to what state in this election were you most encouraged and most disappointed in this election?
Encouraged:
New York – Trump cut the 23 pt margin from 2020 to less than than 13 pts in 2024.. He flipped important counties like Nassau and Rockland and almost doubled the R vote in Bronx Co. from 15% to 27%. 10 pt gain in Queens, 5 points in Manhattan.
I suspect this is not all “Trump”. It might suggest a more permanent swing in the Jewish, Hispanic and Black vote away from the Dems.
Disappointed:
Colorado – Trump lost by 11 points vs. 13 in 2020, a very small gain compared to most states. That is worse than New Jersey and close to IL and NY. Double the margin of MN. The Dems now dominate not only the Denver area but most of the mountain counties west of it all the way to the Utah border.
This suggests a more permanent “blue trend” . Rs did pick up a House seat by a tiny margin but the outlook looks bleak.
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Encouraged – PA
Not encouraged – GA. It should be a red state like its neighbors but is a very light pink.
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Biden commutes sentences of murderers on death row.
Shameful.
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PA is encouraging because there are red parts are getting redder and the blue parts that were getting bluer seem to have stabilized.
GA is disappointing because there is an opposite trend, the Atlanta metro area seems to be getting bluer and is growing fast, contrary to Philadelphia metro. Just from 2020 to now Philadelphia has lost almost 4% of its population. You might think well they are leaving Philly and moving into the surrounding counties and still voting Dem but actually the surrounding counties, with the exception of Chester that gained 2.8%, the others had very small gains or none (Delco +0.1%, Montco + 1.3%, Bucks 0%.)
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This guy sounds like a loser
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/12/mitt-romneys-replacement-rep-john-curtis-declares-he/
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He is probably a winner if Gateway Pundit thinks he is a loser.
Let’s not forget Gateway Pundit likes Putin even more than they like Trump.
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Here is a strange oddity.
My county has been growing rapidly. When I was a kid we had less than 25,000 population in the whole county. About 75,000 in the whole county when I started serving in the legislature 2003. Today, we have about 130,000. Neighboring Jefferson county went from about 15,000 back then to about 80,000 now.
People are packed in closer now to one another, but people are more isolated from one another and ever.
When I was a kid, everyone knew everyone in you community. Now people do not even know much about their next door neighbors.
With all this growth in population, you would think that various organizations would be growing in numbers. NOT TRUE.
For example, we used to have a bunch of volunteer fire departments that provided fire and ambulance service to our community. Volunteers. People joined the fire department. Now we have 5 times the population but very few people are volunteering and joining the vol. fire depts. So we have to raise taxes to pay for paid fire and EMS.
A FEW civic groups and organizations are experiencing some growth, but most are not.
Churches–attendance has absolutely PLUMMETED. A few exceptions Bering the two huge Catholic churches in Berkeley and Jefferson counties. Plus one or two huge independent churches have a thousand or more members. But most long established churches that used to have two or three hundred attendees every Sunday now have maybe 10 to 40 people. Yes COVID helped do that.
High School football and basketball games USED to have jammed pack crowds. Thousands went to every game. Not any more. The stands are pretty bare any more.
We used to have more malls in our county than we do now. We have fewer businesses in Martinsburg (21,000) than we did 50 years ago.
Our growth in population here is NOT home grown. Lots of people moving in here, majority being from MD and VA suburbs of D.C. My theory is that these people were anonymous citizens in those communities, did not know their neighbors, did not get involved in their communities, kept to themselves, etc. And when they move here, they bring those internal values with them.
–Our % of voter participation has plummeted (worst in the State of WV)
–Our amount of crime in up
–lots of other “bad” number are up and “good” numbers are down.
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Looks like he is a “winner” in Utah….
John Curtis R 914,000 63%
Caroline Gleich 464,000 32%
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The changes in your county mirror what has happened just about everywhere, Walt.
Remember people in those days had no other way to communicate and organize except through community links and events. Today people communicate by computer, social media and cell phones.
I know a woman who told me she watches her church service online and sends in a check every month. She says she is “too busy” to actually drive to church.
But I am sure the other reasons you mention have an impact too.
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Trump evidently told NATO he’d keep funding Ukraine if they spend 5% of GDP on defense.
Worst isolationist ever…..
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Trump votes in Utah…..
Votes 883,818
Percentage 59.38%
Looks like Curtis outperformed my guy Big Orange. That’s pretty solid, imo.
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We will pull out of the WHO.
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We also get the return to incandescent light bulbs. That will trigger the free passers
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Trump evidently told NATO he’d keep funding Ukraine if they spend 5% of GDP on defense.”
I hope they tell Trump to GFH.
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Breaking News – No poster at HHR has ever been anti-incandescent light bulbs.
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The free passers will be triggered by trumps demands that the euro deadbeats pay up.
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And Rinos are silent.
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I’ll just leave this here….
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https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/12/23/the-absurdity-of-nato-worrying-about-russia-n3798128
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New THread
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