Exactly….I hope this doesn’t trigger those afraid to not trust The Man….
“I wrote not long ago about the consequences in Germany after Reunification when the Stasi records weren’t successfully destroyed and the German people got hold of them. I suspect that recollection has a lot to do with why so many entrenched bureaucrats are so opposed to Gabbard, Ratcliffe, Hegseth, and Patel. ”
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According to leftists, when a Republican president assumes office, he should appoint people who will sabotage his agenda and lay the foundation for his impeachment.
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Some (including, most likely, you and Jason) voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils. The goal then is to not allow him to accomplish his goals, then hope for a real pure conservative in four years.
Some (including, most likely, you and Jason) voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils. The goal then is to not allow him to accomplish his goals, then hope for a real pure conservative in four years.”
Nah.
There are a lot of goals I will support Trump to accomplish.
Conservative judges. Tax cuts. Elon and Vivek government reform. Close border. Deregulation. Energy independence. Combating wokism and partisanship in federal agencies. Support for parental right. Investing in military. Pulling out of the Paris Accords and other “climate change” ratholes. Case by case reviews of J6 prosecutions. Path to legalization of Dreamers.
There are a lot things will NOT support, not sure I would call them “goals”:
Tariffs, trade wars and other protectionist measures. Failure to support strategic alliances. Failure to support Ukraine and any “deal” that does not hold Putin accountable for his war crimes. Blanket pardons to violent J6 criminals.
There are other issues I may or may not support depending on how they are handled.
As for a conservative in 4 years, yes, obviously I would prefer RDS as someone I view as an actual conservative. I would leave the word “pure” out of it.
The “purists” are those that think if you disagree with some of Trump’s policies you don’t want him to have a successful Presidency.
Don’t give me the “he governed as a conservative” (NYC) or a list of conservative policies he enacted or believes in (Albertus Idioticus) or “conservatism now means something else” (janzam).
Yes or no?
ps: I will not follow up with any comment on your answer. It will speak for itself.
I imagine Murkowski, Collins and Curtis would be the no’s on Hegeseth, and none of them are worried about “pressure”. Not sure where the 4th no would come from, but there are others that would be impervious to “pressure” such as McConnell. I think Ernst has been bullied into voting yes.
But the fact Trump has not pulled him probably means there are no definite number of no’s to tank the nomination like there was with Gaetz.
Also Trump picked a real “establishment” guy for Deputy Sec of Defense. Stephen Feinberg is a billionaire private equity investor with strong ties to defense to the weapons industry and defense contractors. This is really not a “rock the boat” guy as pertains to the “military industrial” complex.
Awesome. That is the justice system actually working to protect innocent people. the entire episode was another biased episode by the Manhattan DA. He should never have been charged and made a scapegoat
Unfortunately, family members who probably have not had any contact with the man who died will probably file a civil suit against, Penny, the city, and transit system this week. The standard to win there is much lower than the criminal case.
I’m speculating now, however I think the social environment is now much more sensitive to criminal actions, and would not be so tolerant of a Day of Rage as they were following George Floyd’s death.
Chicon, I disagree. Floyd’s autopsy showed he had something like 4x the lethal doses of fentanyl in his system, which initially the ME said was the cause of death. He was intimidated, though, to withdraw that opinion. Also, another angle of Chauvin’s knee indicated it was on Floyd’s shoulder, or his neck.
I don’t think its a given they will find for the family even with the lower standard. While they will try to make Neely into a saint there is a lot of evidence to the contrary.
The circumstances around Penny’s case had so much in common with the Floyd one,”
No, it didn’t have a damm thing “in common”.
Floyd was not a threat to anyone after being detained, and the force used on him was completely unnecessary compared to what Penny had to do to protect the other passengers.
Under MN law, Chauvin will probably “only” serve 15 years of his 22 yr sentence. Seems appropriate to me.
One of the first lessons in law school regarding intent and causation was this hypothetical.
A man jumps off a 30 story building. At that moment, somebody intends to kill him and shoots him and the bullet pierces his heart.
Even though the fall would likely have killed the man, the shooter could be found guilty of murder if the cause of death was determined to be the bullet in the heart.
Supposedly the deadlocked jury, on the first count, was 10 to 2 leaning towards acquittal.”
That is why I said I thought the question asking the judge to define what was “reasonable” was designed by the majority to convince one or two holdouts.
You may be right but I think the jury is more likely than not to find for the Plaintiff’s Estate. I expect there will be a settlement by at least the city and transit system.
Floyd was having trouble breathing and asked the officers to put him on the ground. Fentanyl overdoses depress breathing. Chauvin put his knee on Floyd’s shoulder to quiet and keep him on the ground while they awaited an ambulance- the ambulance was caught in traffic and arrived too late to help Floyd. Floyd’s death was caused by a fentanyl overdose, the interaction of other drugs taken just before he was arrested, and the EMT’ arriving too late to save him. Most of the Court room evidence exploited the film taken by a sidewalk observer, not the other shots taken picturing the position of Chauvin’s knee on Floyd’s shoulder, not his neck. And, again the ME’s original report showed cause of death to be drugs, with no indication at all of any trauma to the neck area.
You’re wrong as usual, Jason, by failing to process the whole story, giving total credence to the one given by the less than reliable, biased news media and prosecuting attorney.
This grandmother strolled around the Capitol Building briefly, was not disorderly, had no criminal record, at the most committed a misdemeanor by “trespassing,” and almost 4 years later is being hauled in (handcuffed) and charged as a major criminal.
There was no need for the MN cop to pin him down, much less pin him down with his knee. He was not a threat to anyone, he was in custody, no need for the knee…and for what was it, six minutes?
I prefer waiting for the actual hearings before I say that nominee will be confirmed. I don’t trust any of these pr*cks who speak publicly about a nominee from a President within their own party.
NYC – Something like, We found out Nominee X is a cannibal. Would you agree it is better for them to withdraw rather than that coming out in a hearing?
Chauvin – I have a hard time exonerating him totally. A person needs to be aware of certain things when they are working, and as a police officer, he should have been more sensitive to how video footage can overwhelm other evidence.
I watched the WHOLE video on bodycam available, which was almost 20 minutes, or almost that long. The WHOLE video available definitely puts the incident in a different light, but the media and the prosecutors were more interested in a scalp than true justice.
For that question earlier: how is the word “conservative” being defined?
I know that back on HHR, several posters used to claim that someone was a conservative because they had a pretty good rating from ACU.
BUT, after being confronted with the fact that Senator Rand Paul had an almost perfect conservative rating from that organization, the same posters would then contradict their original claim, and say that Rand Paul wasn’t a conservative.
So, before that question can be answered, a definition for the word should be agreed upon.
“Except for the most successful RINO ever – Donald Trump.”
-Wrong.
I don’t trust him. He never vetoed the overspending bills from Congress back in his first term, I called him out on it constantly.
Unfortunately, too many “Republicans” in Congress say one thing on the campaign trail while doing something different in D.C., and if Trump had vetoed the bills, I seriously doubt Republicans would have taken the necessary steps to lower the amounts appropriated.
Hopefully, with this DOGE, and Vivek and Elon setting the narrative, there will be lower expenditures in the coming years. We shall see.
BUT, WE DO KNOW it will be better than with Biden/Harris or Harris/Walz in the Oval Office.
“He was not a threat to anyone, he was in custody, no need for the knee…and for what was it, six minutes?”
The police were called originally on Floyd trying to pass bogus money. He was already high, not cooperative, wouldn’t get into the police car, finally asked to be laid on the ground. Floyd was a high, towering man who was not in control of himself, because of being on an assortment of drugs. To most such an individual would present a threat. But, the social environment being dominated by BLM, anti white and police sentiments gave Floyd more of a sympathetic edge. Plus, Chauvin was not a very likable guy, which made it easy to shift the blame on him,, despite the ME’s autopsy report saying cause of death was due to fentanyl overdose – added in was the poor health Floyd was in due to his chronic drug use and lifestyle. Ironically, in the Penny case, the ME’s brought up the ill health of the victim as a contributing cause of death, helping Penny’s defense position. The same was absent in the Chauvin trial.
Since he is too much of a coward to answer, I will explain why he is worried.
If he tells the truth and says no, then he is afraid he can no longer accuse others of not being conservative enough. His little litmus tests will go by the wayside.
If he lies and says yes, then he admits that if the Mother of all RINOS can be a conservative, then anyone can be one.
I ‘ve read others opinions about chauvin’s conviction. And, I accept their comments as being how they see the incident. However, I just can’t cave and agree when the actual evidence clearly indicates no bruising or trauma to Floyd’s neck, where if a knee was on it for a prolonged period of time there would have been hematomas and physical injuries to his neck area. Also toxicology reports showed lethal amounts of fentanyl and other drugs in his system. These findings should have taken precedent over the sidewalk film relaying only a partial view shed of what was happening on the other side of the squad car. Anyway, enough said…..
“According to what is Mangione’s Facebook page, the 26-year-old graduated in 2016 as a valedictorian from Gilman School, a private, all-boys school in Baltimore. A local Baltimore news outlet wrote that Mangione’s graduation speech was about “maintaining tradition while also pioneering innovations.”
The Instagram account associated with Mangione states that he attended the University of Pennsylvania as an undergraduate and was a member of the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity. UPenn’s Alumni site confirms that he graduated in 2020 with a dual bachelor’s degree in computer engineering (BSE) and a master’s degree in computer and information science (MSE).
CBS News reported Monday that Mangione comes from a prominent Maryland family, noting that he is the cousin of Maryland State Delegate Nino Mangione, a Republican. Mangioni’s grandfather was a real estate developer who owned country clubs in Maryland, according to the Baltimore Banner.
The NYPD’s Kenny also mentioned at the news conference that Mangione may have connections to San Francisco. The Facebook account associated with Mangione includes photos indicating that he worked as a counselor for the Pre-Collegiate Studies program at Stanford University, 35 miles outside of San Francisco, in 2019. Stanford confirmed his 2019 involvement with the New York Times.”
jason can’t provide a definition for the word “conservative” despite the fact that he is the one asking the question.”
Heh, so NYC doesn’t know what a conservative is from a hole in the wall.
I would have guessed as much, as he has sold out all his purported conservative principles so long ago that he has forgotten.
It is an easy question for Chicon only. NYC has in previous threads stated that Trump is not a conservative, but has “governed as a conservative”, so I am not interested in his opinion.
It is ironic that Jan can watch video of excessive force applied to George Floyd and see nothing wrong by the officers AND watch video of J6 attacking law enforcement officers and see nothing wrong on the part of the protestors.
Actually sometime morons actually come up with a good idea.
The US has a history of intervening in Haiti, and it might be time for another intervention.
Restoring some sort of stability in Haiti is in the interest of the US or we will continue to see mass migrations into the US, not all of it illegal since many are approved for asylum.
Even if you believe Trump can (temporarily) stem the flow, Rs won’t be in power forever and stability in Haiti is also important for humanitarian reasons.
Prior interventions were successful with minimum US casualties. It should also not be done unilaterally, previously troops from Brazil and other countries were used.
Communist pro-Hamas Pope unveils baby Jesus as a “Palestinian”,.
“We applaud @franciscus for his courageous and compassionate unveiling of this year’s Nativity Scene of Bethlehem 2024, designed by Bethlehem-based artists Johny Andonia and Faten Nastas Mitwasi. Featuring Baby Jesus wrapped in a keffiyeh—a powerful emblem of Palestinian identity and resilience—this nativity brings global attention to the universal values of justice, peace, and human dignity. This poignant gesture transcends religious and cultural boundaries, reminding the world of the urgent need for solidarity with oppressed communities.”
Disgusting.
Bitter to say it doesn’t matter what the Pope says or does in 3, 2, 1.
My opinion of the George Floyd case (not that anyone cares) based on all I have read and videos I have seen about this:
When the officers came to arrest him due to a complaint about Floyd trying to pass a fake counterfeit bill at a store there, Floyd swallowed some drug that was in his possession as police moved in. He also did a great deal of resisting and struggling with the police when they were trying to put him in the back of the police car and was Floyd was clearly agitated. He was placed on the ground, and officer had a knee on his upper back–the officer did not have a knee on his neck. The toxicology report that came back said he had a large amount of drug X in his system–enough to cause his death. I think that and his agitated state did more to contribute to his death than the knee on the upper back. I do not think the officer should have had a knee on his upper back at that point though. He was cuffed and laying prone on the ground. I wonder if he would have had the same “I can’ t breath” statements and die anyway–even if the officer did not have a knee on him.
Somewhat similar to the Daniel Penny whacko guy who was in an agitated state on the subway who died while being subdued from his threatening behavior.
A shame we had so much turmoil, destruction, injury and deaths in various cities for many weeks after Floyds death. All that mayhem had no positive benefit for anyone.
Who will get credit for lower gas prices, rise in stock market, positive movement in the Middle East and Ukraine, lower numbers of illegals crossing southern border, etc. between election in November and inauguration in January–Biden or Trump?
Floyd also has a lot of other illnesses including heart disease and high blood pressure. Agitation that Walt mentioned, serious/untreated medical issues, and the fatal fentanyl dose, doomed him.
With respect to the Floyd case, the officer admitted that he made a fatal error, however, despite Floyd’s medical conditi9n, which would not be known by an officer at the time. . Specifically, In the plea agreement, Chauvin admitted that on May 25, 2020, he willfully violated Mr. Floyd’s constitutional right to be free from an officer’s use of unreasonable force. Specifically, Chauvin admitted that he held his left knee across Mr. Floyd’s neck, back and shoulder and his right knee on Mr. Floyd’s back and arm. The plea agreement stated that Mr. Floyd remained restrained, prone and handcuffed on the ground for approximately 10 minutes. Chauvin further admitted that he continued to use force even though he was aware that Mr. Floyd had stopped resisting, talking and moving, and even though he was aware that Mr. Floyd had lost consciousness and a pulse. Chauvin admitted that Minneapolis Police Department (MPD) policy and training requires officers to stop using force when a subject is not resisting and to move an arrestee from the prone position into a side recovery or seated position because the prone position may make it more difficult to breathe. Chauvin admitted that his willful use of unreasonable force resulted in Mr. Floyd’s bodily injury and death because his actions impaired Mr. Floyd’s ability to obtain and maintain sufficient oxygen to sustain Mr. Floyd’s life.”
Europe me in with your wit and charm, my laughter almost broke the China. My wife was ready to make me a Ghana, but I said “Kuwait until the game ends?”
137 responses to “New week. Do better. Go.”
Breaking News – Juan Soto signs mega contract with Mets…reports soreness in both elbows and wrists…developing.
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Exactly….I hope this doesn’t trigger those afraid to not trust The Man….
“I wrote not long ago about the consequences in Germany after Reunification when the Stasi records weren’t successfully destroyed and the German people got hold of them. I suspect that recollection has a lot to do with why so many entrenched bureaucrats are so opposed to Gabbard, Ratcliffe, Hegseth, and Patel. ”
https://pjmedia.com/charlie-martin/2024/12/08/interesting-times-assads-gestapo-didnt-clean-up-before-they-fled-n4934947
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Vic, congrats on the Mets landing Soto.
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According to leftists, when a Republican president assumes office, he should appoint people who will sabotage his agenda and lay the foundation for his impeachment.
According to the Real Pure Conservatives, too.
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Said by nobody at HHR. I may have to start putting warning labels on Chicon’s posts.
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Tina, some will always be uncomfortable with an alpha acting like an alpha.
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I love these stories about the work-from-home federal employees being worried about DOGE.
I’d assume that the traditional fiscal conservatives here can support Trump’s efforts in this area.
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Maybe Chi can explain why he thinks that people who voted for Trump don’t want him to succeed.
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Thanks for the layup, Bitter…
Some (including, most likely, you and Jason) voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils. The goal then is to not allow him to accomplish his goals, then hope for a real pure conservative in four years.
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So your answer is pure speculation. Thank you for prompt response. When did you stop wanting a conservative to be President?
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Never. And my answer is not speculation. Sorry if that triggers you.
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Some (including, most likely, you and Jason) voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils. The goal then is to not allow him to accomplish his goals, then hope for a real pure conservative in four years.”
Nah.
There are a lot of goals I will support Trump to accomplish.
Conservative judges. Tax cuts. Elon and Vivek government reform. Close border. Deregulation. Energy independence. Combating wokism and partisanship in federal agencies. Support for parental right. Investing in military. Pulling out of the Paris Accords and other “climate change” ratholes. Case by case reviews of J6 prosecutions. Path to legalization of Dreamers.
There are a lot things will NOT support, not sure I would call them “goals”:
Tariffs, trade wars and other protectionist measures. Failure to support strategic alliances. Failure to support Ukraine and any “deal” that does not hold Putin accountable for his war crimes. Blanket pardons to violent J6 criminals.
There are other issues I may or may not support depending on how they are handled.
As for a conservative in 4 years, yes, obviously I would prefer RDS as someone I view as an actual conservative. I would leave the word “pure” out of it.
The “purists” are those that think if you disagree with some of Trump’s policies you don’t want him to have a successful Presidency.
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You know Trump is not a conservative, right?
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Hey Chicon. is Trump a conservative?
Yes or no?
Don’t give me the “he governed as a conservative” (NYC) or a list of conservative policies he enacted or believes in (Albertus Idioticus) or “conservatism now means something else” (janzam).
Yes or no?
ps: I will not follow up with any comment on your answer. It will speak for itself.
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What’s that, Ma? It’s a trap? They don’t really want to discuss any topic, especially those you’ve already gone over ad nauseum?
Ma’s getting up there, but she’s still got it…
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Yes or no?
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Hegeseth only one under water now at Polymarket
https://polymarket.com/event/which-trump-picks-will-be-confirmed?tid=1733760620241
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https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/joe-jill-biden-ignore-kamala-harris-at-kennedy-center-honors/
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Pretty good interview of Trump by the nbc reporter. What an incredible weekend he had in Paris and with his handling of the interview.
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I imagine Murkowski, Collins and Curtis would be the no’s on Hegeseth, and none of them are worried about “pressure”. Not sure where the 4th no would come from, but there are others that would be impervious to “pressure” such as McConnell. I think Ernst has been bullied into voting yes.
But the fact Trump has not pulled him probably means there are no definite number of no’s to tank the nomination like there was with Gaetz.
Also Trump picked a real “establishment” guy for Deputy Sec of Defense. Stephen Feinberg is a billionaire private equity investor with strong ties to defense to the weapons industry and defense contractors. This is really not a “rock the boat” guy as pertains to the “military industrial” complex.
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Damm, I didn’t think that was such a tough question for Chicon….
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Cope cuckie, cope.
https://www.westernjournal.com/icymi-chuck-todd-takes-razor-biden-pardon-mental-condition-emotional-wreckage-never-run-president/
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Not surprised. He is a great pick.
https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/watch-dnc-official-stuns-newsnation-host-with-defense-of-pete-hegseth-cmc/?utm_medium=agg&utm_source=economics
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Not guilty!
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Great news!
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Awesome. That is the justice system actually working to protect innocent people. the entire episode was another biased episode by the Manhattan DA. He should never have been charged and made a scapegoat
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Good new for Penny in the criminal case.
Unfortunately, family members who probably have not had any contact with the man who died will probably file a civil suit against, Penny, the city, and transit system this week. The standard to win there is much lower than the criminal case.
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BLMer’s reacting poorly. Days of Rage ahead, about which the DOJ, FBI & local authorities will do nothing. All while the J6 trespassers sit in jail.
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The civil suit against Penny has already been filed
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Is the Day of Rage an actual planned “event” or are you speculating that they will have a day of rage? Honest question
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The circumstances around Penny’s case had so much in common with the Floyd one, but with a far different and fairer outcome.
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Vic, that’s my prediction, but the speakers outside the courthouse got very close to calling for violence.
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I’m speculating now, however I think the social environment is now much more sensitive to criminal actions, and would not be so tolerant of a Day of Rage as they were following George Floyd’s death.
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Jan, imo, the cop in the Floyd case was guilty of a crime; Penny was not.
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Supposedly the deadlocked jury, on the first count, was 10 to 2 leaning towards acquittal.
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Chicon, I disagree. Floyd’s autopsy showed he had something like 4x the lethal doses of fentanyl in his system, which initially the ME said was the cause of death. He was intimidated, though, to withdraw that opinion. Also, another angle of Chauvin’s knee indicated it was on Floyd’s shoulder, or his neck.
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I don’t think its a given they will find for the family even with the lower standard. While they will try to make Neely into a saint there is a lot of evidence to the contrary.
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Ok. The Plaintiffs will likely win.
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Chauvin was not guilty of a crime?
Really?
Was that on Gateway Pundit?
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I don’t think janzam understands how the legal system works.
I could have a doctor tell me I won’t survive 24 hours and will die tomorrow before 6PM.
If she shoots me today it is still murder, the “he was going to die anyway” wouldn’t get her off the hook.
Even if someone told Chauvin “he is going to die anyway, you can kill him now” he is still going to jail.
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The circumstances around Penny’s case had so much in common with the Floyd one,”
No, it didn’t have a damm thing “in common”.
Floyd was not a threat to anyone after being detained, and the force used on him was completely unnecessary compared to what Penny had to do to protect the other passengers.
Under MN law, Chauvin will probably “only” serve 15 years of his 22 yr sentence. Seems appropriate to me.
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One of the first lessons in law school regarding intent and causation was this hypothetical.
A man jumps off a 30 story building. At that moment, somebody intends to kill him and shoots him and the bullet pierces his heart.
Even though the fall would likely have killed the man, the shooter could be found guilty of murder if the cause of death was determined to be the bullet in the heart.
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Supposedly the deadlocked jury, on the first count, was 10 to 2 leaning towards acquittal.”
That is why I said I thought the question asking the judge to define what was “reasonable” was designed by the majority to convince one or two holdouts.
I is a genius.
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You may be right but I think the jury is more likely than not to find for the Plaintiff’s Estate. I expect there will be a settlement by at least the city and transit system.
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NYC killer caught.
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I can buy “more likely”
I just said it was not a “given”.
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The case against the Transit Authority will be interesting.
The estate will try to find them liable for allowing a criminal and threat
into a subway car without admitting he was a criminal and a threat.
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They will argue that there was insufficient security by police so the vigilante was allowed to run wild and kill the victim.
Not saying I agree with that but that is what I would argue.
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Ernst comes out and supports Patel for fib. She is feeling the pressure.
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Floyd was having trouble breathing and asked the officers to put him on the ground. Fentanyl overdoses depress breathing. Chauvin put his knee on Floyd’s shoulder to quiet and keep him on the ground while they awaited an ambulance- the ambulance was caught in traffic and arrived too late to help Floyd. Floyd’s death was caused by a fentanyl overdose, the interaction of other drugs taken just before he was arrested, and the EMT’ arriving too late to save him. Most of the Court room evidence exploited the film taken by a sidewalk observer, not the other shots taken picturing the position of Chauvin’s knee on Floyd’s shoulder, not his neck. And, again the ME’s original report showed cause of death to be drugs, with no indication at all of any trauma to the neck area.
You’re wrong as usual, Jason, by failing to process the whole story, giving total credence to the one given by the less than reliable, biased news media and prosecuting attorney.
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Today the FBI nabbed a new J6er. A 57 yr old grama who just had eye surgery, practically blind. She is being driven by the FBI to court to be charged with committing misdemeanors 4 yrs ago. @HelpStopHate @CondemnedUSA @RepMTG @johnrockshomes @RMConservative @J6patriotnews
This grandmother strolled around the Capitol Building briefly, was not disorderly, had no criminal record, at the most committed a misdemeanor by “trespassing,” and almost 4 years later is being hauled in (handcuffed) and charged as a major criminal.
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Within moments of catching the CEO killer, we know more about him than we know about the kid who shot Trump.
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You’re wrong as usual, Jason, by failing to process the whole story,”
Oh, I processed the whole story.
You access conspiracy sites and regurgitate what they say without thinking for yourself.
Chauvin used excessive force when viewed by ANY angle.
The fact you think actual video is “exploitation” shows the depth of your bias and ignorance.
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So Chicon, we can’t get a yes or no answer from you?
Is Trump a conservative?
You have had hours to think about it.
Yes or no?
I promise to let the answer speak for itself. No comments from me.
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Jan:
I watched the entire sickening video. I almost always support the police but the force used was excessive.
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Per Senator cotton, all of trumps picks will be confirmed. Pressure got to goober and unearnest
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How soon do we find out that the Pa assassin was on the fibs “radar?”
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What’s that, Ma? It’s a trap? They don’t really want to discuss any topic, especially those you’ve already gone over ad nauseum?
Ma’s getting up there, but she’s still got it…
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There was no need for the MN cop to pin him down, much less pin him down with his knee. He was not a threat to anyone, he was in custody, no need for the knee…and for what was it, six minutes?
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I think it was 8 minutes.
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Joni is a yes on Pete, according to Fox. The pressure on Liz, Jr., worked.
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I prefer waiting for the actual hearings before I say that nominee will be confirmed. I don’t trust any of these pr*cks who speak publicly about a nominee from a President within their own party.
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NYC – What if there are issues with a nominee that would be better to not be aired during a Hearing?
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NYC – Something like, We found out Nominee X is a cannibal. Would you agree it is better for them to withdraw rather than that coming out in a hearing?
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Yup, dont trust the Rinos.
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Chauvin – I have a hard time exonerating him totally. A person needs to be aware of certain things when they are working, and as a police officer, he should have been more sensitive to how video footage can overwhelm other evidence.
I watched the WHOLE video on bodycam available, which was almost 20 minutes, or almost that long. The WHOLE video available definitely puts the incident in a different light, but the media and the prosecutors were more interested in a scalp than true justice.
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“NYC – What if there are issues with a nominee that would be better to not be aired during a Hearing?”
-Call/email/fax/write the President-elect and let him know, I would think, before doing anything publicly.
The simple fact is this – other than Gaetz, the Senators are responding to media narratives.
DON’T ALLOW THE MEDIA TO SET THE NARRATIVE!
It’s not a tough lesson.
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For that question earlier: how is the word “conservative” being defined?
I know that back on HHR, several posters used to claim that someone was a conservative because they had a pretty good rating from ACU.
BUT, after being confronted with the fact that Senator Rand Paul had an almost perfect conservative rating from that organization, the same posters would then contradict their original claim, and say that Rand Paul wasn’t a conservative.
So, before that question can be answered, a definition for the word should be agreed upon.
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“No comments from me.”
-Forever?
Chicon, ANSWER THE QUESTION! QUICK!
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“The fact you think actual video is “exploitation” shows the depth of your bias and ignorance.”
-jason, Are you serious?
It does NOT show “the depth of your bias and ignorance” of Janz.
It may show the depth of your ignorance and naivete, when it comes to the lengths that the Left and the media (yes, I know, same thing!).
If that was a black officer and a white perp, would there have been a similar punishment.
DOUBTFUL!
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Yup, dont trust the Rinos.
Except for the most successful RINO ever – Donald Trump.
Fixed it.
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There was actually a case in Memphis, where a black man was killed by black cops.
THIS story should have been all over the national news, but **shocker** it wasn’t.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/12/us/tyre-nichols-police-officers-indicted/index.html
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“Except for the most successful RINO ever – Donald Trump.”
-Wrong.
I don’t trust him. He never vetoed the overspending bills from Congress back in his first term, I called him out on it constantly.
Unfortunately, too many “Republicans” in Congress say one thing on the campaign trail while doing something different in D.C., and if Trump had vetoed the bills, I seriously doubt Republicans would have taken the necessary steps to lower the amounts appropriated.
Hopefully, with this DOGE, and Vivek and Elon setting the narrative, there will be lower expenditures in the coming years. We shall see.
BUT, WE DO KNOW it will be better than with Biden/Harris or Harris/Walz in the Oval Office.
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What is DOGE? I lost my program.
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“He was not a threat to anyone, he was in custody, no need for the knee…and for what was it, six minutes?”
The police were called originally on Floyd trying to pass bogus money. He was already high, not cooperative, wouldn’t get into the police car, finally asked to be laid on the ground. Floyd was a high, towering man who was not in control of himself, because of being on an assortment of drugs. To most such an individual would present a threat. But, the social environment being dominated by BLM, anti white and police sentiments gave Floyd more of a sympathetic edge. Plus, Chauvin was not a very likable guy, which made it easy to shift the blame on him,, despite the ME’s autopsy report saying cause of death was due to fentanyl overdose – added in was the poor health Floyd was in due to his chronic drug use and lifestyle. Ironically, in the Penny case, the ME’s brought up the ill health of the victim as a contributing cause of death, helping Penny’s defense position. The same was absent in the Chauvin trial.
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Dept of Government Efficiency = DOGE
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Jan – You are pretty alone on this one. Most HHR posts on the Floyd case said that the officers went too far. That does not excuse the riots.
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And these rinos had no issues suppporting Biden’s picks without questions. They bent over
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I can see why Chicon is worried about a trap.
Since he is too much of a coward to answer, I will explain why he is worried.
If he tells the truth and says no, then he is afraid he can no longer accuse others of not being conservative enough. His little litmus tests will go by the wayside.
If he lies and says yes, then he admits that if the Mother of all RINOS can be a conservative, then anyone can be one.
Either way his hypocrisy is exposed.
That is why he won’t answer.
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Until Tina admits Trump is a RINO, she has no credibility.
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Thank you.
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So, before that question can be answered, a definition for the word should be agreed upon.”
LOL
But it is no surprise NYC has no idea what a conservative is.
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Penny found not guilty. Good.
NY shooter caught in Altoona PA. Good.
Assad in Syria overthrown. Good.
But what will be the next chapter to unfold in Syria?
Definitely a blow to Iran.
Will the funnuling of weapons and munitions to nut job groups like Hamas and Hezbolla now be interrupted for good?
What kind of government will emerge in Syria? attitude toward the U.S.?
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What time do the riots begin?
Chicon
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Shapiro is currently kicking off his Presidential campaign.
Chicon
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He will pretend to be a moderate. He isn’t.
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breaking: Trump names Harmeet Dhillon as his Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights at the DOJ.
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”Jan – You are pretty alone on this one.”
I ‘ve read others opinions about chauvin’s conviction. And, I accept their comments as being how they see the incident. However, I just can’t cave and agree when the actual evidence clearly indicates no bruising or trauma to Floyd’s neck, where if a knee was on it for a prolonged period of time there would have been hematomas and physical injuries to his neck area. Also toxicology reports showed lethal amounts of fentanyl and other drugs in his system. These findings should have taken precedent over the sidewalk film relaying only a partial view shed of what was happening on the other side of the squad car. Anyway, enough said…..
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He will pretend to be a moderate. He isn’t.”
It no longer worked for Casey.
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Tina sez….Trump names Harmeet Dhillon as his Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights
Excellent pick. But, she may trigger some Establishment Republicans, since she unsuccessfully ran for RNC Chairman against the beloved Ronna McDaniel.
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Janz,
I definitely see your point.
My issue with Chauvin is, as a police officer, he should be aware of cameras and such.
Is he an asshole who maybe should have lost his job? Definitely.
Should he be in jail? If it was a fair world, I would have said “Not Guilty”.
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A Jewish moderate will likely struggle to get the nomination, but three years is a long time.
Chicon
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jason can’t provide a definition for the word “conservative” despite the fact that he is the one asking the question.
Why am I not surprised?
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The NY shooter is neither poor or uneducated.
“According to what is Mangione’s Facebook page, the 26-year-old graduated in 2016 as a valedictorian from Gilman School, a private, all-boys school in Baltimore. A local Baltimore news outlet wrote that Mangione’s graduation speech was about “maintaining tradition while also pioneering innovations.”
The Instagram account associated with Mangione states that he attended the University of Pennsylvania as an undergraduate and was a member of the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity. UPenn’s Alumni site confirms that he graduated in 2020 with a dual bachelor’s degree in computer engineering (BSE) and a master’s degree in computer and information science (MSE).
CBS News reported Monday that Mangione comes from a prominent Maryland family, noting that he is the cousin of Maryland State Delegate Nino Mangione, a Republican. Mangioni’s grandfather was a real estate developer who owned country clubs in Maryland, according to the Baltimore Banner.
The NYPD’s Kenny also mentioned at the news conference that Mangione may have connections to San Francisco. The Facebook account associated with Mangione includes photos indicating that he worked as a counselor for the Pre-Collegiate Studies program at Stanford University, 35 miles outside of San Francisco, in 2019. Stanford confirmed his 2019 involvement with the New York Times.”
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Dems and the MSM know he is not a moderate. They will just pretend he is.
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I would voted guilty on a charge less than murder.
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In regards to Syria – let Israel keep that high ground that they reclaimed now that the agreement they made with the Assads is null and void.
Other than that, there are so many different characters, I prefer the United States keep all parties at arms length at this time.
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“Mangioni’s grandfather was a real estate developer who owned country clubs in Maryland.”
Maybe he knows some of Bitter’s friends.
Chicon
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jason can’t provide a definition for the word “conservative” despite the fact that he is the one asking the question.”
Heh, so NYC doesn’t know what a conservative is from a hole in the wall.
I would have guessed as much, as he has sold out all his purported conservative principles so long ago that he has forgotten.
It is an easy question for Chicon only. NYC has in previous threads stated that Trump is not a conservative, but has “governed as a conservative”, so I am not interested in his opinion.
So Chicon, is Trump a conservative?
Yes or no?
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Maybe he knows some of Bitter’s friends.”
Ma, rival bait in water…
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Bitter, I do agree. I think something that gave him 3-5 years for his actions are about right.
He went beyond the boundaries of good policing.
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By the way, I agree with NYC (sue me) that Trump is not a conservative, but has governed as a conservative on SOME issues.
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Another opportunity for American military intervention….
https://www.dw.com/en/haiti-gang-massacres-110-after-accusing-them-of-using-voodoo/a-71000150
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It is ironic that Jan can watch video of excessive force applied to George Floyd and see nothing wrong by the officers AND watch video of J6 attacking law enforcement officers and see nothing wrong on the part of the protestors.
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A Jewish moderate will likely struggle to get the nomination, but three years is a long time.”
He won’t be running as a Jewish moderate.
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Said nothing body at HHR.
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Luigi better hope he doesn’t know anything about Hillary Clinton……
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Pleasantly surprised by the Penny decision handed down today.
There are 12 more sane people in this city!
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Actually sometime morons actually come up with a good idea.
The US has a history of intervening in Haiti, and it might be time for another intervention.
Restoring some sort of stability in Haiti is in the interest of the US or we will continue to see mass migrations into the US, not all of it illegal since many are approved for asylum.
Even if you believe Trump can (temporarily) stem the flow, Rs won’t be in power forever and stability in Haiti is also important for humanitarian reasons.
Prior interventions were successful with minimum US casualties. It should also not be done unilaterally, previously troops from Brazil and other countries were used.
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Sounds like the Luigi guys reads the same liberal “anti-profit” and “the health care industry is evil” garbage NYC reads.
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GFY. NYC is only against profits by pharmaceutical companies. He did not condemn insurance companies. Yet.
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Communist pro-Hamas Pope unveils baby Jesus as a “Palestinian”,.
“We applaud @franciscus for his courageous and compassionate unveiling of this year’s Nativity Scene of Bethlehem 2024, designed by Bethlehem-based artists Johny Andonia and Faten Nastas Mitwasi. Featuring Baby Jesus wrapped in a keffiyeh—a powerful emblem of Palestinian identity and resilience—this nativity brings global attention to the universal values of justice, peace, and human dignity. This poignant gesture transcends religious and cultural boundaries, reminding the world of the urgent need for solidarity with oppressed communities.”
Disgusting.
Bitter to say it doesn’t matter what the Pope says or does in 3, 2, 1.
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GFY. NYC is only against profits by pharmaceutical companies. He did not condemn insurance companies. Yet.”
Nah. He called the insurance company profits bad profits. So if he thinks there is such a thing I am sure it extends beyond insurance companies.
And in any case, I would say health insurance is part of the health care system.
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We dodged a bullet here.
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My opinion of the George Floyd case (not that anyone cares) based on all I have read and videos I have seen about this:
When the officers came to arrest him due to a complaint about Floyd trying to pass a fake counterfeit bill at a store there, Floyd swallowed some drug that was in his possession as police moved in. He also did a great deal of resisting and struggling with the police when they were trying to put him in the back of the police car and was Floyd was clearly agitated. He was placed on the ground, and officer had a knee on his upper back–the officer did not have a knee on his neck. The toxicology report that came back said he had a large amount of drug X in his system–enough to cause his death. I think that and his agitated state did more to contribute to his death than the knee on the upper back. I do not think the officer should have had a knee on his upper back at that point though. He was cuffed and laying prone on the ground. I wonder if he would have had the same “I can’ t breath” statements and die anyway–even if the officer did not have a knee on him.
Somewhat similar to the Daniel Penny whacko guy who was in an agitated state on the subway who died while being subdued from his threatening behavior.
A shame we had so much turmoil, destruction, injury and deaths in various cities for many weeks after Floyds death. All that mayhem had no positive benefit for anyone.
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Who will get credit for lower gas prices, rise in stock market, positive movement in the Middle East and Ukraine, lower numbers of illegals crossing southern border, etc. between election in November and inauguration in January–Biden or Trump?
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Floyd also has a lot of other illnesses including heart disease and high blood pressure. Agitation that Walt mentioned, serious/untreated medical issues, and the fatal fentanyl dose, doomed him.
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1. UGANDA eat that last piece of pie, CHAD? I’m HUNGARY, so, BELIZE, can I take it TOGO?
2. I feel like celebrating. Let’s go TAIWAN on.
3. Thar guy was a TURKEY. He sold me a dead cat for $100. EGYPT me!
4. It is so CHILE. Have you not seen my AFGHAN,EH,STAN?
5. Dan pushed Bill and he slipped in GREECE and broke his leg. Bill is going to SUDAN.
6. Don’t be so mean and HAITI.
7. At the family reunion, Hank Guay gave a speech saying, “I am a Guay, URUGUAY we are all Guay!”
8. The shop specializing in selling ties is called “THAILAND”.
9. The chef said to his assistant, “You make the RUe, WANDA.”
10. He could not find a reason, nor escape, nor path, NORWAY.
11. What did Noah say on the 39th day aboard the ark? BAH. RAIN!
12. I already told you it was in the DEN, MARK.
13. What comes after “A” Olivia? “B” OLIVIA!!
14. Who is knocking on the door? It is your BEAU ‘LIVIA!
15. IRAN to open the the pool hall door. Then IRAQ the pool balls on the pool table.
16. We let all types of people through THIS door, and do not discriminate. It is an ECUA-DOR!
17. I SENEGAL with a red dress on…who could not get across the deep stream. I told her “I would be happy to PORT U, GAL.”
She said “O MAN, how I could repay you. I replied, “KEN YA let me see you shake your DJIBOUTI.”
My two pals asked me if I liked her jiggling. I said, “YEMEN!”
18. Rocco was trying hard to steer the plane left, but it was not enough so I said “MOROCCO, more.”
19. Pilot Tom Switzer was running out of fuel, so the navigator said, “You have to land, SWITZER. LAND!”
20. When you have gas bubbles in your stomach, you either have to “toot” ‘em, or BELGIUM.
21. OMAN!, These puns are JAMAICAN me crazy.
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22. European!?!
No…I am NOT!



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With respect to loon Cheney and the other j6 committee members, they are in legal jeopardy for one or more offensives:
18 U.S. Code § 1512 – Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant
18 U.S. Code § 1512 – Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant
Title 18, U.S.C., Section 241 – Conspiracy Against Rights
No free passes.
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offenses*. Don’t call it “retribution”. It is ensuring that the rule of law is followed. Nobody is above the law.
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1512 was cited 2 times. The other offense is:
18 U.S. Code § 1519 – Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy
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Bionduh should look into it after Patel investigates it.
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With respect to the Floyd case, the officer admitted that he made a fatal error, however, despite Floyd’s medical conditi9n, which would not be known by an officer at the time. . Specifically, In the plea agreement, Chauvin admitted that on May 25, 2020, he willfully violated Mr. Floyd’s constitutional right to be free from an officer’s use of unreasonable force. Specifically, Chauvin admitted that he held his left knee across Mr. Floyd’s neck, back and shoulder and his right knee on Mr. Floyd’s back and arm. The plea agreement stated that Mr. Floyd remained restrained, prone and handcuffed on the ground for approximately 10 minutes. Chauvin further admitted that he continued to use force even though he was aware that Mr. Floyd had stopped resisting, talking and moving, and even though he was aware that Mr. Floyd had lost consciousness and a pulse. Chauvin admitted that Minneapolis Police Department (MPD) policy and training requires officers to stop using force when a subject is not resisting and to move an arrestee from the prone position into a side recovery or seated position because the prone position may make it more difficult to breathe. Chauvin admitted that his willful use of unreasonable force resulted in Mr. Floyd’s bodily injury and death because his actions impaired Mr. Floyd’s ability to obtain and maintain sufficient oxygen to sustain Mr. Floyd’s life.”
This plea is here. https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-minneapolis-police-officer-derek-chauvin-sentenced-more-20-years-prison-depriving
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Comedy gold.
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Had the officer kept his knee on his back (approved move/hold for a person thrashing around, he would have been fine.
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(if after he quit resisting he then moved him to the prone position).
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Damn, Jan. Once you lose Tina, it is time to rethink your position.
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FBI Director Christopher Wray plans to resign on or before Inauguration Day, according to recent reports.”
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https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-reportedly-mulling-border-hawk-kari-lake-as-ambassador-to-mexico/
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Not sure what I think about that…….would have preferred her as AZ Governor. Not so sure about this position.
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Walt,
Europe me in with your wit and charm, my laughter almost broke the China. My wife was ready to make me a Ghana, but I said “Kuwait until the game ends?”
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Then I prayed to Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines for her Togo away.
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I did not ask for a Turkey sandwich or any Samoa Girl Scout cookies, but enjoyed a chocolate Malta and I liechtenstein clean!
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NT
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