Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
 | GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
| GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
223 responses to “VP Debate Thread”
uno
LikeLike
frist
LikeLike
damn
LikeLike
Is Vance winning?
LikeLike
Show time.
LikeLike
Will it be 3 on one again?
LikeLike
already biased….more blue than red
LikeLike
They shake hands.
LikeLike
first lie…”we have not shared the questions…”
LikeLike
Middle East
LikeLike
seriously they praise biden in their first question, give me a break
LikeLike
Vance crushing it!
Did it start yet?
LikeLike
Oh God, not another debate…
LikeLike
lmao I find it hilarious they are going after Trump’s age. Neither of them can keep up with him.
LikeLike
Walz – Hamas killed Jews. But have to worry about Gaza. Says Israel instead of Iraq.
LikeLike
Walz – Harris has steady leadership.
LikeLike
Vance gives bio instead of answering first question.
Trump delivered stability in world and froze Iranian assets. Supports Israel if it launches pre-emptive strike.
LikeLike
Doltz eyes. My gosh his eyes.
LikeLike
Q #1 “Would you support a preemptive strike by Israel on Iran?”
Walz answered. “Trump is bad.”
(Did not answer the questions.)
(apparently, Walz has a hearing problem)
***********
Vance answer: (I came from a working class family…”)
Vance defends the Walz attack on Trump. Throwing facts around. Must piss off the moderators.
Walz retort: Trump’s fault of problems with Iran.
LikeLike
Walz points out Iran is closer to developing nukes than when Trump left office.
LikeLike
good response by Vance
now they are going to climate change is why people are dying.
LikeLike
Climate Change.
LikeLike
Vance is making Doltz look like he works for him. LMAO
LikeLike
Vance is destroying dolts
LikeLike
my gosh the entire body presentation and facial looks and demeanor of doltz is off putting.
LikeLike
BTW Waltz is wearing a top button extender…cant close it lmao. I only know from experience sadly, 😉
LikeLike
I have a point of order. Didn’t Vance just say we send our ally Israel. Want that one of Jason’s conditions for support trump?
LikeLike
Climate change is the second question?
Geezus
LikeLike
defend*.
LikeLike
Not enough.
LikeLike
Q#2 Climate change.
Vance: empathetic to those who has been in hurricane wake.
Dems talk a lot about reducing Carbon emissions….current adm. policies shut down U.S. industry and ship to China, etc.
Walz: we are creating all kind of green energy jobs.
LikeLike
Not Enough iq? Doltz
LikeLike
Sorry Tina, but I am going with Bitter’s opinion, huh, report, on whether Vance convinced him he is not an isolationist moron.
Cult votes don’t count.
LikeLike
Vance – US is cleanest country in world. US should use domestic energy.
Walz – Trump called climate change a hoax.
LikeLike
Harris is weatherproofing Minnesota power lines.
Moderator- Climate change will kill all of us.
LikeLiked by 1 person
seriously, the moderator just made a statement about climate change. Didn’t think anyone was tuning in to hear their opinions.
Oh, and now, are you going to deport kids and parents…Jesus
LikeLiked by 1 person
Deportation.
LikeLike
So, no fact checking, but editorializing is ok? Norah just threw out the “overwhelming consensus of scientists” schtick on warming at an “unprecedented” pace.
LikeLiked by 1 person
James Holley, (RFK jr) advisor: I was unsure why #Trump selected #Vance
…..I see why now!
LikeLiked by 1 person
ouch ouch ouch, he just landed a strong blow
LikeLike
Vance – Biden/Harris through open the border to illegals and fentanyl. Self-deportation of illegals when can’t undercut American workers.
Walz- Decrease in fentanyl in last year. Trump destroyed border deal.
LikeLike
Meghan McCain: Vance is absolutely sweeping the floor. It’s like the end of a Mortal Kombat game and this debate just started.
(Fyi – I am not a fan of Vance)
LikeLike
polymarket tanking for Doltz.
LikeLike
320,000 migrant children lost.
LikeLike
WTF is Waltz talking about?
LikeLike
wont answer question about deporation
LikeLike
Vance – Harris undid all Trump’s border EOs.
Moderator – More than 50% support deportation
Walz – Trump demonizes illegals. Haitians are awesome.
LikeLike
cut me Nick, cut me
LikeLike
Q#3 Immigration (southern border) Trump threatening to have massive deportation. Explain details of how you would do that. You got 2 minutes.
Vance: tells how we got here Biden/Harris policies.
Vance: start with illegals who are criminals.
Walz: Drug mules aren’t real. Harris prosecuted drug smugglers as AG in CA. Trump and the bipartisan immigration proposal. Trump had 4 years to do this. Built less than 2% of wall.
question redirected to Vance and moderators asked him to answer the question about whether families should be separated during Trump mass deportation.
Mods: more than 50% support massive deportation, what ya say about that Walz?
Walz: Trump was the problem. Haitians eating cats and dogs claim. Trump villainizes immigrants.
Mods: Congrerss controls the purse strings to deal with illegals immigrant problem. What about that? you got one minute.
LikeLike
Family separation. 320000 Lost children This is the mother of all answers. Wow. Fantastic.
LikeLike
lmao Waltz tries to slip in a Wall street dig because of Vance VC background, now tries to slip the bible in, as if he’s ever read it.
LikeLike
The first 30 minutes…. Vance was an excellent vp choice. The guy is a cool debater. Walz looks like a deer in the headlights half the time. This is going to be a big win for the Trump/Vance ticket.
LikeLike
again, the moderators try to insert politics with a speech and Vance smacks them down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LikeLike
Vance – Illegals overwhelm Americans.
Walz – Trump destroyed the border deal. Quotes scripture on helping people
LikeLike
Doltz keeps,writing every time they do a split screen when Vance is speaking. . He looks like he is off his meds.
LikeLike
VAnce calls out mods for doing live time fact checking, they try to talk over him and shut him down. Vance explains, they shut him down. They turn off his microphone.
LikeLike
Vance fact checks fact checkers.
Both microphones turned off.
LikeLike
These 2 women are shameless.
LikeLiked by 2 people
I have been more to thr border than our border czar.
-Vance.
LikeLike
Hey, I was just polled. I said I would vote for Trump.
When it came to ethnicity I said Inca-Amish, only because I want the crosstabs to show Trump winning 100% of this demographic.
LikeLike
Economy. Harris plan would be outrageously expensive.
Walz – We’ll build 3 million houses. Insulin cost.
LikeLike
fact checking the fact checkers
LikeLike
The bimbettes had good questions, now they are wrecking the debate.
LikeLike
The Red State blog likes Vance so far. But not a surprise.
LikeLike
Walz is taking notes.
LikeLike
Q#4 Kamala’s plan to give $30,000 to everyone for house downpayment and other nonsense economic Kamala plans….blah blah..$50,000 tax write off for new business start ups..
Walz: Harris and I grew up in middle class family…; Trump only gives tax break to his rich friends.
Mods to Vance: Wharton School of Business says Trups economic plan will cost $5 trillion. Comment on that. you got one minute.
LikeLike
Vance as VP – home run pick.
And, to top it off, he is NOT an isolationist.
LikeLike
Walz – Fair share.
Vance – Harris plans are nonsense. She did nothing but drive up prices.
PhD economists don’t have common sense. Trump had better economy.
LikeLike
I WANT A QUESTION ON HOW REPUBLICANS BANNED ABORTION!
Nobody cares about these economic mumbo jumbo details.
LikeLike
the experts said to shut down the economy for Covid
LikeLike
Walz – Trump failed on COVID and destroyed the economy.
LikeLike
VAnce: experts have F–ed up in the past big time regarding shipping u.s. jobss overt seras being a good thing.
LikeLike
Walz – we need more unions.
LikeLike
Vance – Experts screwed American workers for 40 years.
Walz – Fair trade. Trump created huge trade deficit.
LikeLike
LOL tries to slip in Venture Capitalist as a negative
LikeLike
Vance’s statement will be used against McCormick by Casey
LikeLike
another smack down
LikeLike
Mods to Walz: Why do most people trust Trump on the economy?
Walz: Trump is bad. Kamala has as good record of creating jobs.
Vance: Trump years led to big increase in take home pay for avg worker.
LikeLike
l joined the Red Army through the GI Bill.
I mean the US army.
LikeLike
Walz says he talks too much….
LikeLike
Doltz has the eyes again. Meth eyes.
LikeLike
damn they call him out about not being in tinamen square and he won’t answer the question. Says Im a knucklehead!!!!
He is a liar, and straight up liar
LikeLike
Leadership Qualities.
Explain why Walz claimed he was in Hong Kong when he wasn’t. Says his community knows who he is. He said he is sometimes a knucklehead and gets caught up in rhetoric.
LikeLike
9 eleven
I like to report a murder
LikeLiked by 1 person
ouch, I mean ouch. He is called out as a liar. WOW
LikeLike
Walz – I misspoke.
LikeLike
Q#5 Mods to Walz: You said you were in Hong kong when tinnamen square happened. But you were not. Explain?
Walz: meandering answer…..lost me. He did say “he was a knucklhead at times.”
Followup: to Walz: I misspoke. It was later.
LikeLike
Question to Vance. Explain anti-Trump comments.
LikeLike
Q#7 to Vance: You in 2016 detested Trump, what changed?
LikeLike
And, to top it off, he is NOT an isolationist.”
LOL
“I don’t care what happens in Ukraine”
LikeLike
Walz looks sad. 😦
LikeLike
Question to Vance. Explain anti-Trump comments.”
He should be able to hit that one out of the park.
LikeLike
wha is with the meth eyes and the note taking?
LikeLike
Vance – I was wrong about Trump and believed media lies. He changed his mind. Congress should have done more with Trump rather than impeaching Trump twice. Supports tariffs.
LikeLike
Did he really just say “I’m a knucklehead at times “
Good Grief !!!!
LikeLiked by 1 person
Vance: says he was wrong about Trump in 2016 (he believed the bad things media was saying). Congress is not doing its job, and should be better at producing needed legislation.
Biden continued the Trump tariffs, which was good.
LikeLike
Abortion. Drink.
LikeLike
and now ABORTION
LikeLike
lmao Project 2025 is going to have a registry and they wont allow contraception give me a break
LikeLiked by 1 person
Vance is like a young bj. Excellent delivery. Excellent.
LikeLike
the maternal mortality stat in Texas is based on bad math.
LikeLike
Abortiom = #1 issue for the free passers.
LikeLike
what is a young bj?
LikeLike
Q ABORTION!!!
When you were governor, you said abortion in 9th month is just fine. Explain.
Walz: TX example …KY example…PROJECT 2025!!!! (never answered question asked)
Vance: no we will not create a federal abortion monitoring agency, as Walz claimed project 2025 will do.
LikeLike
Walz – Trump bragged about overturning Roe. List of horror stories. Refuses to admit Minnesota allows abortion in 9th month. Abortion is a human right.
Vance – No US monitoring of pregnancies. Have to support fertility treatment and better economic opportunities to be pro-family.
LikeLiked by 1 person
I cannot find my car.
LikeLike
Bj-Clintune
LikeLike
Walz….another example of some woman and bad outcome regarding abortion.
“we must restore Roe v Wade.”
LikeLike
Mod Q to Vance: you wanted to outlaw abortion after 15 weeks. Explain.
LikeLike
Vance previously supported 15 week ban. Dems trying to repeal ban on partial birth abortion. Committed to pro-family.
Walz – We’re not pro-abortion. We’re pro-women.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Vance sure is sounding and looking better than Walz.
LikeLike
More wrangling about abortion.
i now wish they would talk more about economic issues…
LikeLike
I agree, Tina. He is smooth.
LikeLike
There is a joke just hanging out there.
LikeLiked by 1 person
They disagree about what the MN law says.
LikeLike
I’m curious, would Walz require Catholic Hospitals to do abortions?
LikeLike
Commercial Break
LikeLike
Halftime score: Vance 35, Walz 2
Even on abortion I think Vance got ahead of him which is hard. Jeez, if Trump spoke like Vance we’d be talking about a Bush 1 landslide over Dukakis.
Im not sure how others think, but I think Vance has controlled the debate, EVEN WITH Walz being better than expected. The man has no business being the Vice President, or any where near the White House.
What a horrible ticket Harris-Walz
LikeLike
Notice Walz never answered the question about Catholic hospitals
LikeLike
Commercial break. Go get a snack…
LikeLike
And we’re back. Guns
LikeLike
Q#9 GUN VIOLENCE!!!
LikeLike
is Doltz still taking notes?
LikeLike
Q to Vance: holding parents responsible for school shooting by their child. What say you? you got 2 minutes.
LikeLike
We won the abortion portion of the debate. Well,done Vance.
LikeLike
Illegally obtained fire arms….open border….trying to connect open southern border with spike in gun crimes…(I know, this is a big leap…)
Walz: I and the VP are gun owners….
LikeLike
Vance – Trusts local laws on whether to charge parents with involuntary manslaughter if child commits mass shooting. Most crimes are with illegal guns. Increase security in schools and arm guards.
Walz – I’m a hunter. Harris owns guns. Red flag laws on ownership.
LikeLike
Walz’s non answer to the “You said were in China during Tiananmen Square when you weren’t” was painful.
LikeLike
LikeLike
Walz: we need to be more like Finland.
LikeLike
Walz – Finland has a lot of guns but no mass shootings.
LikeLike
Vance is right that mental health is related to the gun violence.
LikeLike
Vance – US has mental health crisis. Finland doesn’t.
LikeLike
ive become friends with a school shooter….WHAT???
LikeLike
This shows that if we had someone other than Trump, these debates would be cakewalks.
LikeLike
Vance should bring up Defund the Police and that the ground zero of that is in Minnesota
LikeLike
Walz: MN, #1 gun death is rural suicides.
LikeLike
Vance – Cities have crime out of control.
Walz – Don’t stigmatize mental illness. Guns are the problem.
LikeLike
A VA backed loan is earned. It is not a give away.
My dad earned his in Vietnam.
LikeLike
Walz – Housing. Midnight mass (another Catholic who won’t restrict any abortions). Build houses.
LikeLike
Vance – Illegals drive up home prices.
LikeLike
I became friends with a school shooter
I am a nucklehead.
-doltz
LikeLike
Ok, I got the new scope on the rifle.
LikeLike
Inflation and high housing costs. Kamala plan….build more homes, $25,000, $10K child care tax credit…. blah blah. ?
Walz: great idea. Minneapolis is a shining example.
Vance: (Trump’s…plan) lower energy prices… “Where are you going to seize federal lands?”
LikeLike
Vance – Build homes on federal land.
Walz – Fewer illegals now than when Trump was in office.
LikeLike
Illegals,are getting special (below market rate loans).
LikeLike
now health care
LikeLike
These moderators are uuuugggghhhhhhhh!
LikeLike
WELL DONE HERE.
LikeLiked by 1 person
No votes changed on abortion either way. People hear but don’t listen on either side.
LikeLike
Heath care high cost
Q to Vance: Trump wants to replace current systems…what about pre existing condidtions…?
you got 2 minutes.
Oh crap. he is showing stats that show things were better when Trump was president.
LikeLike
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump·
Second time he has said, “I’ve been friends with school shooters.” What does he mean by this? Is he insane?
993
1.62k
8.32k
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump·
Did Tampon Tim just say he has “become friends with school shooters?” He isn’t even qualified to be Governor, let alone Vice President. Walz and Kamala DO NOT HAVE WHAT IT TAKES!
LikeLike
Healthcare.
Nobody understands it anyway.
LikeLike
Bl, a comment is in moderation. (Trumps tweets)
LikeLike
Walz: Trump wanted to repeal Obamacare. Trump does not care about pre-existing conditions.
LikeLike
ZZZZZZ Now I wish they would go back and talk a bout abortion some more.
LikeLike
Pre-existing conditions.
LikeLike
How much more of this must I endure?
LikeLike
Mandates a good idea?
LikeLike
so you are for the individual mandate Walz??? OUCH
LikeLike
WAlz: Kamala made everything better.
LikeLike
I am watching No Reservations.
LikeLike
Child care crisis….mandatory paid leave from your job to stay home and take care of your child at home….Paid family medical leave.
Walz: zzzzzzzzzzz
LikeLike
what on earth is he saying. He has literally moved to four topics in one answer and not addressed any of them
LikeLiked by 1 person
LikeLike
National paid family leave?
Vance: zzzzzzzzz ….need choice….
LikeLike
David Frum: “Vance is going home tonight with Walz’s wallet. Vance didn’t even have to snatch it, Walz just handed it over, along with a bunch of unearned compliments to Vance’s fine character.”
LikeLiked by 2 people
Family medical leave.
Walz – Harris is awesome. Trump hates workers and families.
Vance – My wife is awesome. Federal child care should support religious providers, too.
LikeLike
I hope this is over at 10:30
LikeLike
Walz is taking notes. A white legal pad. I don’t like that look.
LikeLike
Q about Trump comment about something….(unclear to me) child care shortage?
Vance: penalize companies who are shipping jobs overseas
LikeLike
Youngkin would have delivered VA. Vance won’t.
LikeLike
does Doltz need another pen and more paper?
His head keeps moving around and ima, getting whiplash watching him.
LikeLike
Bitter what does that have to do with the debate
LikeLike
I’d prefer a President Youngkin to a President Vance as well.
LikeLike
Vance is doing a really good job, its not that hard to say he is.
LikeLiked by 1 person
WAlz: tariffs bad.
LikeLike
Zzzzzzz. I take notes in court, too.
LikeLike
Democracy.
LikeLike
DEMOCRACY! contested election of 2020…
Q would you have certified the last election That is unconstitutional. you got 2 minutes.
LikeLike
Vance has been really solid. Never seen Youngkin, but he’d have a hard time doing better than Vance had done.
LikeLike
We are in debate and not in court.
LikeLike
I use white or yellow legal pads.
LikeLike
I prefer yellow.
LikeLike
Not sure what you are asking.
LikeLike
easier to find my notes.
LikeLike
This may be the best performance by a Republican candidate for vp or president since Reagan’s 2nd debate in 1984 (not the first.).
He is destroying Doltz. And we won on abortion and drugs. (We we usually lose)
LikeLike
Vance: threat to democracy? censorship
RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbart both endorsed Trump and me.
LikeLike
thats a lie. there were NO POLICE OFFICERS beaten to death. What a damn lie
LikeLiked by 1 person
Walz: “October 6…” Trump wants to imprison political opponents.
LikeLike
The “I became friends with school shooters” line, is absolutely blowing up on Twitter. The memes the next few days should be legendary.
LikeLike
Nikki Haley earlier tonight said that JD Vance’s mission is not to rally up the Trump supporters (because Trump already has them) but to inspire the Independents, suburban women and conservative Democrats.
Vance masterfully did this. Well done Mr. Vance.
LikeLiked by 1 person
A police officer shot and killed a woman. She was not armed and the officer panicked. She should not have been in the capitol. She committed no violence and surely did not need to die.
LikeLike
Walz- Trump tried to overturn litigation.
Vance – Trump left office on January 20, 2021 peacefully.
LikeLike
Yeah, trump really went after his political opponents. Charged them with bs crimes and rounded up is opponents.
LikeLike
Walz: Trump tried to overturn the election in 2020.
Vance: Dems protest outcome of presidential elections all the time.
Walz. “Oct. 6”
LikeLike
Hey Doltz. Steven bannon would like a word with you on jailing opponents you Ccp sp.
LikeLiked by 1 person
jailing *
LikeLiked by 1 person
Walz gets last long statement.
LikeLike
another break.
I don’t know how anyone will be able to say Walz won this debate, but I bet you the mainstream media will say it.
He was literally annihilated tonight. “I was terrified going into this, but I honestly think Vance probably did win over a few undecideds
LikeLike
I Thank Bitter for providing a better running commentary than did I.
I am glad that there will be no more debates.
This tired me out.
LikeLike
Doltz got the last statement? It should have been Jd. He won it. Did they break? My net went down.
LikeLike
knuckleheads befriend school shooters
LikeLike
“Youngkin would have delivered VA. Vance won’t.”
-We shall see.
LikeLike
(I cannot get the debate too load)
LikeLike
Youngkin would have delivered VA. Vance won’t.”
It’s called opportunity loss…
LikeLike
Closing arguments.
LikeLike
ok, Vance gets to go last.
LikeLike
I,am not sure youngkin would have been this good. Remember, Jd has only been doing politics for a few years. Doltz has been doing it over 20 years.
LikeLike
I’d prefer a President Youngkin to a President Vance as well.”
I think anyone who is not a Trump cultist would agree with that.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Youngkin was my first veep choice. However, Jd has always performed above my expectations. I told you to watch how he handles himself in media interviews and in rallies.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Vance pronounces the F of often. Not good.
LikeLike
rather the T of often.
LikeLike
The friend with school shooter line is indeed blowing up everywhere.
LikeLike
Walz lost the visuals, but did ok on substance.
Vance won on substance and did a good job of effectively stating that when Trump was president things were much better with regards to the economy, border and immigration. He hammered it home on his closing.
LikeLiked by 1 person
Walz – Demicracy. Bernie Sanders, Taylor Swift and Liz Cheney. Abortion. Vance will stand with Trump. Harris brings politics of joy.
Vance – Energy. Need to be able afford food, house and be safe. Harris failed. America is greatest country unless Harris F’s up.
LikeLiked by 1 person
New thread for list-debate.
LikeLike
Vance’s wife is a looker.
LikeLike
Quemala needed Doltz to win and he failed. He lost badly. She is limping to the finish.
LikeLike
HHR Bedwetters; Vance speaks the King’s English! We’re going to lose all the bumpkins who will now vote for Harris!
LikeLike
Does Doltz need any more pads.
LikeLike
look, it was actually nice to see a civil debate, one where the candidates were able to talk policy without too many petty attacks.
Walz is not a VP, or should even be a governor. He is a liar, was called out for being a liar, and Vance, to his credit, allowed the moderators to call him a liar. Trump would have been repeating it and jamming it down Walz throat. Its much more damning to Walz’s credibility that it came from the moderators.
In no objective judging of this debate could someone say Walz won, or even held his own. He is not in Vance’s league, didn’t look like someone who could step into the Presidency if called up. I mean OMG, can you imagine this guy as President.
LikeLike
All you had to do is look at Drudge (the ultra progressive liberal website)….and nothing.
LikeLike