Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
 | GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
| GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
151 responses to “Post Debate”
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Did Walz really say he is friends with a school shooter?
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quemala picked a bad vp nominee. I said he was the gift that keeps on giving. She is limping to the finish.
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Knucleheads and school shooters for Harris!
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Walz lost the visuals, but did ok on substance.
Vance won on substance and did a good job of effectively stating that when Trump was president things were much better with regards to the economy, border and immigration. He hammered it home on his closing.
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look, it was actually nice to see a civil debate, one where the candidates were able to talk policy without too many petty attacks.
Walz is not a VP, or should even be a governor. He is a liar, was called out for being a liar, and Vance, to his credit, allowed the moderators to call him a liar. Trump would have been repeating it and jamming it down Walz throat. Its much more damning to Walz’s credibility that it came from the moderators.
In no objective judging of this debate could someone say Walz won, or even held his own. He is not in Vance’s league, didn’t look like someone who could step into the Presidency if called up. I mean OMG, can you imagine this guy as President.
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Walz did say he was friends with a school shooter. He also bumbled through answers in a way that would make Biden proud.
He was overmatched, and to his credit, he didn’t melt down and kept trying, but it was like the freshman squad scrimmaging the varsity team stacked with seniors coming off a state championship.
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“I’d prefer a President Youngkin to a President Vance as well.””
-Whomever won the primaries, I would vote for that person.
Of course, Trump won this years primaries…..I’ll vote for him and his VP pick, JD Vance.
Youngkin can prepare for 2028 and 2032, or for 2036 after President Vance or DeSantis.
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I agree. It was a good watch.
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MSNBC headlines
Vance’s ‘sanewashing’ on the debate stage can’t wash away Trump’s most outlandish comments
JD Vance isn’t ready
The first-term senator doesn’t have nearly the experience necessary to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
Vance dodges question on whether he could challenge election results this year
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Of course, Trump won this years primaries…..I’ll vote for him and his VP pick, JD Vance.”
Is there an address where I can ship you a medal?
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That was a good closing statement.
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Ok. I always give my grades.
Vance A-. I thought he did a very good job of making his points and going back at Walz and the moderators.
Walz – B- Walz said what he was supposed to say. He didn’t answer many questions but he did continue to speak without being flustered.
I thought Vance did a very good job using an effective lawyer tactic. Essentially, kill with kindness. “I respect what you are saying and I think there are things we do agree upon BUT you are so F’ing wrong.”
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Hello sane voter.
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Hello Jason, been lurking and decided to jump in now that the election is closing in.
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https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1841300645992886340?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1841300645992886340%7Ctwgr%5E08c04690999aa83d5d49ba4f64ce95545a1b4a26%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F675623%2F
-Trump, thankfully, is improving on his hiring.
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Cn and N is in mourning.
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How did the Moderators NOT ASK ABOUT UKRAINE?!?
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Cn and n host. Jd came in with a lot of punches, and they landed. Doltz was not prepared.
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B-?
Sounds like you think Walz did well.
Unless there is grade inflation on debates.
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I have a ZOOM meeting tomorrow morning at 9 a.m.
I also have another funeral to go to on Saturday.
I did not have a good opinion on the 2 moderators.
I give them a D score.
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The one thing I liked about Jd, he always mentioned the American public. I think he made a connection.
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“I did not have a good opinion on the 2 moderators.
I give them a D score.”
-Agreed.
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Frank dunce aka the landlord to Kevon had his focus group.
12-2 for Vance.
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Harris-Walz pushing his use of scripture……
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Tampa bay news
who,won?
Jd 68%
Doltz aka friend of,school,shooter 32%
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I would give the moderators a B-.
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Really, pretty much my first introduction to Vance and Walz.
Vance did well. A- (plus a lot of women voters will like his pretty blue eyes)
Walz B- or C+ (plus he is an arm flailer–which is a negative)
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I would rather have a Vance than a Walz in office.
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There is no recovery from the school shooter line. This will have post debate legs.
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Ed Morrissey from Redstate, not much of a Trump supporter.
“My final thoughts are not far off from John’s. On substance, both men had their moments, but Vance seemed better prepared to discuss specific policies. He also hammered the point home during the debate that Kamala Harris has been in office for three and a half years, and nailed it in the closing statement. She is the status quo, not the change.
On style, Vance blew Walz out of the water. He was poised, charming, gracious, and positive. Walz alternated between glaring at the camera and looking like a deer in the headlights. His non-answer on his Tiananmen lie is going to stick to him for a long time,”
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Vance – A+
Dolts -D
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Walz did what he was supposed to do. He repeated Harris’ talking points. He didn’t fall off the stage or cry. If you ever decide to watch a debate or a speech, I will read what you think.
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Moderators. F. It is always going to be 3 on 1. They intervened every time Doltz sagged/combat jds effectiveness.
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I wasn’t being critical of your grade. I just remarked that B- is a good grade.
GFY
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Cry more, freepasser. Maybe tomorrow.
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CBS keeps pushing the “Did President Trump lose the 2020 election?” as if people give a cr*p.
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Beege is a cultist. Her view:
“Okay. Thought there were real problems with the moderators again, no surprise there, and for attack dogs, they sure wasted time on subjects appealing to a small slice of the audience, but that was probably a strategic choice. For the Taylor Swift crowd, maybe childcare does count for more than a port strike where your child might not get formula or food in a couple of weeks.
Walz had blithering idiot-itis in several moments and went off the rails in his attempt to sidestep direct answers about “What would Harris do.” Then, the China disaster was all his. He is also not a comfortable figure to watch on stage – you get a sense there’s a frenetic energy just barely being held in check, and the leg kick or weird arm gestures are bustin’ to come out.
He’s big on stories and short on facts.
JD was masterful, even on subjects like abortion and, again, the childcare issue where it seemed as if Brennan wanted him to formulate a complete plan to watch the nation’s babies 5 days a week right then and there and would badger him until he said how and how much.
He acquitted himself admirably with grace, good humor, and a vicious intelligence.
I did like the nice little moments between them very much.
Unbiased opinion?
JD wiped the floor with Walz.”
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“Vicious intelligence”
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Vance knew the “Did Trump lose the election?” and his answer was not strong.
Why not just say, “There were legitimate questions raised, the courts did not agree, and the election was certified.” Question and answer not talked about after tonight.
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Who is crying and who is the free passer?
Hard to keep track.
I don’t want to take credit if undeserved.
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I care about 19.99 for a ny steak.
$6.99 for a bag of Doritos. Sorry Quemala I have been eating Doritos much longer than you.
9.99 for a case of soda.
$5 a gallon for gas. Likely heading up really soon.
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the lady in the pink jacket needed help with her floppy turtle neck.
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dolts,did,not,look good in the split screen. The note taking was annoying. The head bobbing, the facials, etc.
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Nobody cares about j6 /2020 erection. We are in 2024, the election had issues and fraud m
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I always give my opinion and explain it. You give the opinions of others.
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the courts did not agree,”
That is a Dem talking point.
The courts never really took up the merits of all the issues with the voting. When the Dems talk about the courts rejecting Trump’s claims, it was basically on grounds like standing, timing, etc.
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No, your commentary was just one lines and I filled in with the candidates complete statement. You can phuq off.
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They are asking Sen Cotton the same 2020 question, which is why I am mentioning it.
Nobody remembers how Vance answered it, other than to say that Biden became President, which is what Cotton repeated as well……and then pivoted to “which is why prices are as high as they are and there are so many issues in the world.”
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Everybody is a free passer to Tina.
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I always give my opinion and explain it. You give the opinions of others.”
No need to be defensive. Nobody attacked your opinion.
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B-?
Sounds like you think Walz did well.
Unless there is grade inflation on debates.”
When I want to attack an opinion I can do a lot better than that.
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I gave you my opinion throughout and you know it. Plus observations about Doltz writing too much, facial looks, and moving his head on the split screens.
You wrote back, “I use pads in court.” So what.
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Sen Mark Kelly repeating “Trump 2025 plan”…..Oh Lord.
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Jan better watch out.
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I don’t grade on who I agree with. I grade on how well did somebody do their job in advancing their talking points/policy positions.
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Sen Kelly saying that Trump victory will result in American troops in Europe…….was he not around from Jan 2017-Jan 2021?
Terrible presence as well, looks like a shriveled up, half-eaten hot dog.
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Lol, troops in Europe. No new wars/no stupid wars like every r (except Reagan/trump) and every d got us into.
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You made a point that there was something devious or a sign of I don’t know what to take notes. I view it as a non-issue.
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Funny
https://x.com/mattmargolis/status/1841305080475078749
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Doesn’t the astronaut know that there have been troops in Europe since the end of ww2. I personally would pull them out.
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CNN’s John King says “Republicans are happy tonight and Democrats a little bit nervous” as Tim Walz did nothing to narrow Kamala’s deficit on the top two issues of the race.
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Nope, I said he continued to take notes. Loook back at the split screens. No other candidate has done that, other than maybe take a few notes. It’s like he was writing a short story.
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it was basically on grounds like standing, timing, etc.
Trump’s lawyers didn’t do a good enough job. Don’t blame me.
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Heh, I thought Bitter was posting about me, now I realize it was someone else, I never mentioned writing or pads.
But I shouldn’t be blamed for thinking everything is about me considering my stellar presence here.
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Chris Cuomo calls out Norah O’Donnell and Marg Brennan for censoring Vance when he fact-checked their own lie.
https://x.com/bubblebathgirl/status/1841318322593313060?s=46&t=j3o7buVbI9kLYuftUwY1bg
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I also said that his head moved too much and he had too many weird facials.
But the friend of school shooter line will last post debate.
She needed a big win and he failed
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Trump’s lawyers didn’t do a good enough job. Don’t blame me.”
Nah, the courts didn’t want to get involved.. I blame them.
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GFY, Tina. Most of your posts here are links to other people’s opinions.
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Well the standing issue is bs. However the Ga top court never took action on the case.
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The ga court basically never did sheot despite the 300,000 ballots having no chain of custody documents
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You know when the Democrats have had a bad night when Drudge (the far left progressive website now) won’t post any polls about the debate.
Or when CNN list three takeaways….the pet eating Springfield stuff, the misspoke about Tiananmen Square or the abortion sequence.
Or when CNN’s Van Jones calls JD Vance a serial liar.
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Yikes !!!!! It wasn’t great, but definitely wasn’t as bad as Biden.
ABC News’ Linsey Davis just compared Tim Walz’s debate performance to Joe Biden’s debate performance
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Grades
Vance A- only because I think that to get an A you really have to land so many body blows that no one can question your win. Vance did a marvelous job tonight. I HATED the pick of Vance when it happened. I called him all sorts of names, etc, and I was wrong. He is a solid pick as VP. We didn’t get enough of his views on foreign policy because they literally only asked one question, which he answered very well.
Overall I think he’s very intelligent. Thinks about his answers and I also feel, from what I have seen, is he is not afraid to admit a mistake. I admire that in a person. I think he will be a fine VP
Walz – Solid C – He did not break down as I thought he would, he definitely shared and stayed with the party line, and didn’t resort to cheap shots. The debate was very civil and I liked that. He is an old granpa whose stories are about as believable as Oliver Putnam’s (only murders in the building reference…a show you should watch). He seems like an ok guy, but I am still wondering how on earth he got to congress, much less Gov of a state. The disaster of being caught by liberal moderators in a lie will be his defining moment
He got clocked.
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Will,quemala again call for another debate? Seems like she needs to explain why it was a good idea to give the mullahs $$$ and why is it a good idea to give $$$ to illegals, while,allowing your own citizens in nc to suffer.
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New York Times Headline:
“Vance’s dominant debate performance shows why he’s Trump’s running mate”
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We didn’t get enough of his views on foreign policy because they literally only asked one question,”
So I gather he said nothing that would change my mind about him being a dangerous isolationist.
Since Bitter didn’t bring it up, I figured as much.
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Who,won the debate. CBS
Vance 42
Doltz 41.
we know who won it.
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Bitter,
Relax. Why are you getting so riled up by Tina?
Come on, man!
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Dave Wasserman: “Dems are fortunate presidential debates tend to matter a lot more than VP debates.”
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these moderators were much better than the ABC ones. But the CNN ones were the best.
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The only problem with waterman’s post is that there are no more presidential debates.
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Ny slimes calls Vance’s performance “dominant.”
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“these moderators were much better than the ABC ones.”
I unfortunately watch an AppleTV show called “The Morning Show” with Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Aniston…it was terrible.
The 2 moderators were exact replicas of those characters from that show.
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watched, not watch – the torment is over.
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I HATED the pick of Vance when it happened. I called him all sorts of names, etc, and I was wrong. He is a solid pick as VP”
Since Vic is not a cultist, it is an impressive statement.
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these two were the gunners in the classroom. Like that character from Election.
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Yeah nobody wanted Vance. We get it.
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Mike, I have no understanding as to why bitter is gunning for me. I only mentioned the excess note pad writing and facial from Doltz on split screen.
He wrote back that he uses a note pad in court. We are not in court.
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I don’t think Scranton Joe will be happy tomorrow, he ia asleep now.
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Because I am tired of her act. 90% of her posts are stupid nicknames, responding to posts that she made up, and posting things said by other people. specifically somebody who grew up not knowing the correct spelling of their last name is Dougherty or Doherty. I have asked her for more of her own opinions and she declined.
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Vance could have taken a dump on stage, Tina would have said he won hands down.
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Tina,
It might be because I’ve been playing better golf lately, I just don’t understand why he gets so angry on here. Bitterlaw, your humor used to be a wonderful defense.
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freepasser are in a bad mode. Don’t worry quemala srill has a chance.
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“Vance could have taken a dump on stage, Tina would have said he won hands down.”
-Ok, I LOL’d at that!
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Walz looked like he had to go but couldn’t
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https://x.com/RobertMSterling/status/1841303247908213245?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1841303247908213245%7Ctwgr%5Ec2f2a3af291b7797962c9d499c16a6e931d26a5e%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpjmedia.com%2Fliveblog%2F2024%2F10%2F01%2Flive-blog-vance-vs-walz-in-crucial-vp-debate-showdown-n13
-Memes are great.
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The free passers so badly wanted to write Vance sucked tonite, he was not my choice. That is why they are pissed.
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90% of her posts are stupid nicknames,”
No, actually 90% of her posts are regurgitations from garbage and conspiracy sites and the Kremlin’s talking points.
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The free oassers are also mad that no questions were asked about the grifter of ukraine.
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WHere is Paul?
I hope he took his meds.
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They were wrong on Vance like they were wrong on j6 and Fraudci.
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“Because I am tired of her act.”
-The more you respond to it, the more her “act” works.
It makes me laugh. Laugh a little, shyster.
We will talk again soon, you can laugh at my accent again.
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Polls to who won the debate….unscientific of course…..
KTLA (Los Angeles)
Vance 62%
Walz 38%
Gannett (USA Today)
Vance 61%
Walz 39%
Washington Post 22 undecideds
Vance 14
Walz 8
WFLA
Vance 63%
Walz 37%
Baltimore Sun
Vance 55%
Walz 45%
WKRG
Vance 61%
Walz 39%
N.J.com
Vance 60%
Walz 34%
Just for fun, of course.
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They were also wrong on Ukraine too. They liked Pooty poot when mute 43 transported him around his ranch.
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Friends of mine are going to see David Gray in January in Philly at The Met. How is that place for a show?
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Basically maybe trust the free passers for brand of bacons and wills and trust but that’s about it.
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That question was for Bitterlaw.
Is The Met in Good Philly or Bad Philly?
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Spoken like a pure isolationist.
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Heh, Tina can’t stop shilling for her dear leader and icon “Pooty Poot”.
I don’t think any shrink can cure that kind of infatuation.
But of course, you wonder why a “true conservative” would be so enamored with a communist ex-KGB thug.
Maybe Freud can explain it.
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Any lawyer who can’t justify standing in a case sucks.
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“Heh, Tina can’t stop shilling for her dear leader and icon “Pooty Poot”.”
-Uh oh, the term “shilling for” has been re-defined at HHR to mean “mentioning”.
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Basically, the free passers are full of sheot.
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I recall him saying that his daughter witnessed a school shooting or was friends with somebody who did.
If there was another reference, I am sure it will be posted.
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@BehizyTweets
I’m so glad Tim Walz is only 60 years old because if he were five years older (senior age), they’d accuse JD Vance of elder abuse and get the Justice Department to indict him Thank God.
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Jason. I respect why you didn’t want to vote for Trump after picking Vance. I had the same reservations, and literally despised the guy. I have to admit I was wrong. I think he did better tonight than Rubio or Scott would have (and I like them both a lot). I don’t know enough about Youngkins to know how he would have done.
But the guy is bright, well spoken, advocates well for positions, and what I learned most, is he’s not afraid to admit his position was wrong if brought enough evidence. I think he would make the change on his isolationism once he got to office and head to deal with the world on a daily basis.
I now feel good about voting for the ticket, and I would, humbly, recommend that you do as well, considering your vote matters more than mine in Texas. You make your choice, and I respect it as I respect everyone here, but I would ask that maybe you look into Vance a bit more. I think he’d make a fine President, and given my apprehensions, I never thought I would make that statement.
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Bitter – Walz said his son saw a shooting. Given his propensity for lying I question it. Vance’s response to it was very classy.
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Maybe the drats would do better in debates if they actually did not hide from press interviews and the interviewers asked tough questions.
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Vance surpassed my expectations tonight, in one very real aspect. I keep seeing interviews with women who are just unable to dislike him…….similar to how Youngkin engaged with issues down in VA. Pretty sure that his Yale experience helped him in that regard.
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He said he would back Israel’s decision to make a pre-emptive strike on Iran. Ukraine was not discussed.
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lol
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Nancy picks stocks better than Buffet and Munger
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Bitterlaw – The Met?
Any opinion?
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NYC – This is why Tina deserves my response. Nobody at HHR is voting for Harris except Paul. I certainly am not and she knows that.
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Zzzzzzz. Vance was also not Tina’s choice. So now she is a free passer, too?
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I think he would make the change on his isolationism once he got to office and head to deal with the world on a daily basis.”
Reminds me of Bitter’s line that “hope is not a strategy”
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I heard it is really nice. A renovated old theater. Close to City Hall and restaurants.
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She was not at the Capitol. She was the dnc hq, the site of one of the pipe bombs.
Julie Kelly
@julie_kelly2
The threat of January 6 is so important to Democrats and the media that no one has yet asked Kamala Harris a single question about surviving an attempted “pipe bomb” assassination that day
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Those are Jason’s stupid terms. Ask him.
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I actually reached out to Tina when she left and asked her to come back. Live and learn.
But NYC likes her so I guess that counts for something.
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Because Yale makes people likable?
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I have never been. My wife and daughter attended a concert there and said it really nice. They felt safe in the neighborhood.
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Actually, Vic, my concern with Vance is not that he isn’t articulate. I have praised his performance on the campaign trail. He has a compelling life story and is obviously very accomplished. He has a great family. He seems like a personable guy that you would want to have a beer with.
It is actually surprising (and disappointing) to me that he believes in isolationism and protectionism given that he should know better. I mean, Rand Paul has an excuse, he is Ron Paul’s son. What is Vance’s excuse?
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https://themetphilly.com
Here is the website, NYC.
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Meh, Bitter, you know Tina does it to get a rise from you, and actually likes and respects you a lot. We all do.
With that said, I think you’d want Tina back if she left. She’s a lifer, like we all are.
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Jason. I don’t have an answer to that question. I had written a long answer to this, but it would all be speculation at this point.
I’ve seen enough though, that knowing the differences between both he and Walz, and Trump and Kamala, that it’s in the country’s best interest to vote, and to vote for Trump/Vance, even with reservations. I can honestly say, I don’t believe he’d be as much of an isolationist as we think. I believe, after seeing him more, he’d be more pragmatic than we are expecting.
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Just remember 2016. Neither of us voted for Trump because we were afraid of what he’d be in office. he far, far, far exceeded my expectations, and in general (not on every point) but in general, I believe he was a very good President. I think Vance would be as well.
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he was the dnc hq, the site of one of the pipe bombs.”
Ah yes.
Have we discovered what “guvmint asset” planted the bombs yet?
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I don’t decide who stays and goes. You all appreciate her contributions more than I do.
I have been coming here since July of 2004. I can’t escape it. I am sure I overreact to things but my world changed in 2020 and I don’t handle nonsense as well as I used to.
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ust remember 2016. Neither of us voted for Trump because we were afraid of what he’d be in office.”
True, but you have to make decisions based on the information at hand.
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You were wrong in 2016, right in 2020, and wrong now. Maybe you will be right in 2028. I probably won’t be around to see it.
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Jason, you have to do you. I am just giving you my view of things as someone who has/had similar reservations. My whole career has been based overseas, and many years of that dealing with foreign governments. Still do. It’s not a secret I am very involved in Ukraine. I value how important our foreign policy is, and to have a robust one that is based on the concept we will protect our allies.
I think it’s important to cast a vote for Trump/Vance. You have to do what you think is best for you, but I think I have enough to cast my vote.
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Oh Please Bitter. You will be here for the HHR 50th anniversary in 2054. Or at least I hope so.
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I was super busy tonight so couldn’t participate in the thread discussion. However, I did stream the debate and thought Vance handled himself well – courteous, informative, good eye contact, and non-confrontational. My grades mirror Vic’s – an A- for Vance (the minus because he did not correct some of Walz’s most flagrant lies), and a C for Walz because he got thru the 90 minutes without falling apart. I did think, though Walz’s body language and facial expressions, neck jerking around were annoying. Vance was completely different – composed, mild mannered, not frantically taking distracting notes….and those blue eyes were very attractive.
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You were wrong in 2016″
Zzzzzzz……
I never regretted my vote. GFY.
After Trump became President, like JD Vance I thought he was fit for the job.
You call Vance an isolationist too. Are you wrong?
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Thanks, Bitter.
If we go, I’ll let you know.
Cheers, and Goodnight!
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Oh yes, forgot to say I thought the female moderators did a crappy job – 2 stuck-up biased women who forgot any sense of journalistic fair play.
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NT
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