Emerson polls taken 9/12-9/13 against likely voters:
 | MARYLAND |
| Trump | 33 |
| Harris | 65 |
| U.S. Senate: | |
| Hogan | 42 |
| Alsobrooks | 49 |
 | INDIANA |
| Trump | 58 |
| Harris | 41 |
 | MISSOURI |
| Trump | 55 |
| Harris | 43 |
Also a poll of MO from Change Research (D):
| MISSOURI |
| Trump | 50 |
| Harris | 41 |
Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
 | GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
210 responses to “Hogan in trouble and several non-battleground state polls from Emerson”
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Mark Halperin undecideds panel.
https://x.com/2waytvapp/status/1836135658370297875?s=46&t=j3o7buVbI9kLYuftUwY1bg
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Head Rasmussen pollster Mark Mitchell, on the state of the race.
I sure hope this guy is right.
https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1836138933648003304?s=46&t=j3o7buVbI9kLYuftUwY1bg
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I don’t know what was up with those polls showing Hogan up by 18 or so a few months ago. This race won’t be close.
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End Wokeness tweet on X
PA mail-in ballot requests:
2020, 50 days before the election:
🔵Dems: 1,101,962 (+725,000)
🔴GOP: 376,956
2024, 50 days before the election:
🔵Dems: 798,946 (+477,869)
🔴GOP: 321,077
If this is how the mail-in breakdown ends up, we are in a phenomenal position.
Scooter
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So, ras guy says it’s trump plus 2. Nothing has changed.
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J D Vance crushes it in an Eau Claire WI campaign stop. He is so quick on his feet answering stupid press questions. The crowd was 100% behind Vance too. He exceeds my expectations of him on a daily basis – so different from most milquetoast, establishment politician types!
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Eric Daugherty on X
BREAKING: North Carolina mail-in requests continue getting more favorable for Republicans
MAIL-IN REQUESTS [change from 2020]:
🔵 Democrat: 37.95% [-8.02]
🔴 Republican: 23.02% [+3.21]
BY RACE:
🔴 White: 71.74% [+6.29]
🔵 Black: 10.92% [-7.17]
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So people who attended s rally with Vance were 100% behind Vance? Wow.
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As a Senator, Vance is part of the Establishment.
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Kamala now +2 in the RCP average.
Trump down 12 at Predictit and 2 at Polymarket.
There is definitely a “Kamala is ahead” vibe, hopefully it can be reversed.
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jason, the tell on these media polls showing Harris surging is the sudden surge in Biden’s approval and favorability. He is incapable of doing anything to improve. The only reason for his improvement is the byproduct of the pollsters putting their thumbs on the scale to help Harris.
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I still can’t think of one demographic or one state where Vance helps bring in a single vote.
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The only reason for his improvement is the byproduct of the pollsters putting their thumbs on the scale to help Harris.”
I believe it. The problem is that it seems to be working.
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The crowd was 100% behind Vance too.”
LOL
What a surprise, huh?
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it would be working if we saw movement in reputable polls. We don’t see that.
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Trump would probably be up 3 or 4 with Youngkin, Scott or Haley.
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it would be working if we saw movement in reputable polls. We don’t see that.”
“Reputable polls”?
That is remarkably close to the old HHR tradition of cherry picking polls and only wanting to accept polls that fit the “we are winning” narrative.
Looking at the RCP average I see a sea of blue polls, and only 3 lonely red ones. Maybe only the red ones are “reputable”, but RCP is hardly a left wing site and their average is used by a lot of MSM sources.
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris
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Those Nv voters from cbs report do not appear to like quemala and Timmy.
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and with Youngkin, Virginia would have flipped
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Biden’s Beotch now wants to raise taxes.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/09/17/exclusive-mcconnell-focuses-raising-taxes-trump-assassination-attempt-senate-luncheon/
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Biden’s Beotch = sabateur.
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Biden’s Beotch wants to do a deal with quemala
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jason, I am taking about Big Village out with a Harris +8 poll, and the very inaccurate pollster from 2020, Morning Consult showing +6, and those with similar numbers, that also have Biden approval suddenly looking great. There are many reputable pollsters showing anything from a narrow Trump lead to a Harris lead of 3 or even 4, but in most of those scenarios, Trump wins the electoral college. Flip GA and PA = 270.
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I am fine with raising taxes to increase Pentagon funding, but ONLY for that.
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Wtf is the potential R majority leader mentioning “raising taxes.” He self damages the r brand.
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Free passers to defend Biden’s Beotch in 3, 2, 1…
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Here is the problem.
There is a story out on how David Muir has lost 12% of his viewership since the debate.
That sounds good until you realize 12% is ONE MILLION viewers.
It means he has like 10 million viewers.
And they will all only get the news that Kamala is way ahead in the polls.
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Note how Tina dishonestly leaves out that the “tax increase” is for the Pentagon.
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Wtf is the potential R majority leader mentioning “raising taxes.” He self damages the r brand.”
Zzzzzz……
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I hope Biden’s Beotch does not become the majority leader. Garbage in and out with that loser.
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The Pentagon needs more funds for the Navy, we are way short on ships. And for recruiting, way short on enlistments.
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What would you expect from somebody who creates fake posts and then argues with them?
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I love tax increases.
-free passer.
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I love Mitch.
-free passer
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I wonder who is more of a RINO?
Mitch McConnell, who has been a REAL conservative and a REAL Republican for 50 years or Donald Trump, who has been a FAKE conservative and FAKE Republican for less than 10 years.
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My wine chick friends also see a sea of blue.
-free passer
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I give a free pass to Trump, the Mother of all RINOS.
I give a free pass to Putin the War Criminal.
See, I give names to the real “free passers
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What would you expect from somebody who creates fake posts and then argues with them?’
The expectations are indeed low, but once in awhile you would think she would have an honest post, just because of the law of averages.
I guess not.
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Dw, what is he referencing?
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump·
BIG LEAD IN THE JUST RELEASED RASMUSSEN POLL, ONE OF THE FEW THAT GOT IT RIGHT!
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Harris has led in only 1 out of the last 10 polls of Georgia. The 1 poll was a CNN poll that gave her a 1 point lead.
Harris has led in only 2 of the last 10 polls of Pennsylvania. The two were Suffolk and Morning Consult, each giving her a lead of 3. Suffolk was off in Biden’s favor by 6 in 2020, and Morning Consult was off in Biden’s favor by 8 in 2020.
So from here, it looks like Trump is in a better place to get to 270 than Harris.
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So from here, it looks like Trump is in a better place to get to 270 than Harris.’
Good, I hope you are not at “30,000 feet”.
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Thanks, but I thought he was referring to a just released pole. As that one came out this am?
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Harris has led in only 1 out of the last 10 polls of Georgia.”
I can’t get excited about polls showing Trump ahead in GA. If Trump loses GA (or NC) he is not winning the election.
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My wine chick friends also see a sea of blue.”
Must have good color vision.
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris
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“Good, I hope you are not at “30,000 feet”.”
Nope. 16 inches away from my computer where I can easily read the list of the last ten polls of both states.
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wow, Sara sanders dropped a lot of weight. I did not recognize her.
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Don’t take me wrong. Trump could lose. The election is far from over and it could go either way. But if you remove all the names and the clutter and look at the two most critical states, GA and PA, and candidate “A” has only led in one of the last ten polls in GA and only 2 of the last 10 polls in PA, you would rather be in the position of candidate “B”.
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PRESIDENT TRUMP: “I’m putting a 200% tariff” on cars being made in Mexico “which will make them unsellable in the United States.”
Stupid and self defeating protectionist garbage.
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nd only 2 of the last 10 polls in PA,”
Yeah, PA is the “shining star” so far for Trump’s chances.
As long as he is competitive in PA, he is competitive in the election.
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Evidently a lot of terrorists literally lost their balls.
“Sean Moorhouse, a former British Army officer and explosive ordnance disposal expert, said videos of the blasts suggested a small explosive charge — as small as a pencil eraser — had been placed into the devices. They would have had to have been rigged prior to delivery, very likely by Mossad, Israel’s foreign intelligence agency, he said.
Elijah J. Magnier, a Brussels-based senior political risk analyst, said he spoke with Hezbollah members who had examined pagers that failed to explode. What triggered the blasts, he said, appeared to be an error message sent to all the devices that caused them to vibrate, forcing the user to click on the buttons to stop the vibration. The combination detonated a small amount of explosives hidden inside and ensured that the user was present when the blast went off, he said.”
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I guess Trump would prefer that Mexican auto workers would cross into the U.S. illegally than build cars in Mexico.
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I prefer Ccp cars.
-free passer
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Fact check True.
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Michigan Rally:
Day 1 we are doing 2 things, close the border and Drill Baby Drill.
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Michigan Rally:
Day 1 we are doing 2 things, close the border and Drill Baby Drill.”
Smart.
Stupid tariffs and trade wars?
Idiotic.
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The woman is the one who followed the assassin and took down the plate. Brave lady.
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I bet we will find out soon that he was an asset to the federal gubment.
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I guess Trump would prefer that Mexican auto workers would cross into the U.S. illegally than build cars in Mexico.”
Trump is so stupid he doesn’t understand that trying to artificially protect the US industry will make the cars “unsellable” here too.
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we could find that out, and you know what, not one Harris voter will change their mind because of it. Not one MSM outlet would cover it, or if they did, they would marginalize it.
So no sense dwelling on it.
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I bet we will find out soon that he was an asset to the federal gubment.”
Zzzzzzz….
They must be running really low on “assets”.
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Has the Gateway Pundit given up on trying to prove the basement dwelling loser in Butler was a “gubment asset” and is ready to move on to the next loser?
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I read at HHR that everybody on J6 was an asset
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Was this guy “deep state”?
If he was, he will probably win the “calling the most attention to himself Deep Stater in history” award.
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I think the Deep State is trying a very clever tactic.
They call so much attention to themselves that nobody can believe they are Deep State.
This is absolutely brilliant.
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Our future:
BREAKING: Hillary Clinton suggests jailing Americans for posting “misinformation” “There needs to be deterrence”
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Anything new on the Debate affidavit story? It seems following the second assassination attempt, it has disappeared from the news. Haven’t even seen much on X about it.
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I feel bad for Hogan.
He is doing 25 pts better than Trump and still losing by 7.
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https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/report-would-be-trump-assassin-met-with-members-of-congress-in-2023-mace/?utm_medium=agg&utm_source=economics
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It was real but it merely confirmed what everyone knew. They were in the tank for Kamala but the most explosive allegation (that they got the questions in advance) was not in the affidavit, only “sample questions.
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The Deep Stater met with members of Congress.
I tell, you them devils are clever.
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I think if they wore Deep State sweatshirts that would actually hide their Deep State membership.
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Trump should invent a Time Machine. He could then uninvent planes, helicopters, rockets and ships so America could really be isolated.
-Cult Member
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So if Trump is so bad you why don’t you Pa guys just vote for Kamala. It’s the swing state delux in this election. Kamala would be thrilled.
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re abc.
The whistleblower account remains unverified. However, there may be congressional action.
Not sure if the new whistleblower is the same whistleblower. Also, not sure if it’s related to the abc debate, or an edit of an interview done for quemala.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/rep-dan-meuser-says-abc-news-could-be/
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Because I am an adult living in the real world and would never let a Democrat go unopposed. I always vote for the Republican nominee. Even a RINO like Trump.
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Bill Ackerman has also sent out a lot of tweets. Apparently, he sent a tweet to Bob Egore asking for an investigation.
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Oh noes. Springfield city manager now acknowledges constituents reports of illegals eating dogs and cats.
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We are at #2. #3 is coming from the nro.
#1 The illegals did not eat cats and dogs.
#2 The illegals may have eaten cats and dogs, but trump is still mean.
#3 The conservative case as to why it’s ok for illegals to eat cats and dogs.
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“I still can’t think…”
-Jason wrote this earlier….why he kept writing is unclear, as the first 4 words summed up the whole sentence. A-Hole with diarrhea of the mouth?
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Each time Jd Vance appears he does well. I don’t know much about him, but he is excellent.
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Just returned from 2 day trip to Lancaster PA. Drove through central PA, saw lots more Trump signs than Harris. Hey but this PA is not Philly or Pittsburgh.
Saw sight and Sound show in Lancaster. “Daniel”.
I thought it was gonna be about the Daniel in Elton John’s song: “Daniel is traveling tonight on a plane, I can see the red tail lights, heading off to Spain…
…I miss Daniel, yeah I miss him so much.”
BUT IT WASN’T! It was about Daniel in the Bible…interpreting dreams…Shadrach, Meshack, Abendigo in the fiery furnace, Daniel in the Lion’s den. It was a good show.
We ate well too.
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You guys who post and fisk the polls are doing a crack up job. Kudos to you.
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“I still can’t think of one demographic or one state where Vance helps bring in a single vote.”
-Erie County PA.?
As Ann Coulter points out often, white men w/o a college degree did not come out as forcefully for Trump in 2020 as they did in 2016. Hopefully, Vance will re-energize that vote.
Also, Hillbilly Elegy was a pretty big hit when it was released, and got Vance favorable press. Women don’t forget the emotional response they had to that book. Hopefully it will translate into giving Trump a 2nd look.
His performance in front of opposition media has also been exemplary, and I’m not sure an executive like Youngkin or Burgum could have performed as well in the position of lieutenant to “general” Trump.
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“Trump would probably be up 3 or 4 with Youngkin, Scott or Haley.”
-Is there any evidence of this?
Could Youngkin been able to defend the Trump issues which always come up?
I’m not sure how he would have handled being a 2nd in command. Much different job description when Trump is the main feature.
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You didn’t day hi to Jason?
On my street, there is one house with a Trump sign and one with a Harris sign. My neighborhood is not big on signs for President. There are usually more signs for School Board races.
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https://www.creators.com/read/erick-erickson/09/24/dear-mr-trump
Heh. Agree 100%
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Jason said he likes the taste of Guinea pigs. Are we kicking him out next?
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Erickson says since first ass@assination attempt, Trump off game. Especially since Biden dropped out, Trump not going to be able to prove he can beat Biden. Gives Trump some good advice, IMO.
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“Note how Tina dishonestly leaves out that the “tax increase” is for the Pentagon.”
-Are you for real!?!?
jason is George H W Bush reincarnate over there.
How tone deaf does someone have to be to even broach the subject of a tax increase?
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“Stupid tariffs and trade wars?”
-Yeah, they really ruined the economy from Jan 2017 until Feb 2020!
YES, this is sarcasm!
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How are you doing, Phil?
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Jason said he likes the taste of Guinea pigs. Are we kicking him out next?”
I hope those neighbors that “lost” their guinea pigs when I first came to America don’t start adding 2 + 2….
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“I wonder who is more of a RINO?
Mitch McConnell, who has been a REAL conservative and a REAL Republican for 50 years or Donald Trump, who has been a FAKE conservative and FAKE Republican for less than 10 years.”
-Oh Lord.
McConnell has been a “conservative” in power and has presided over a budget that is trillions of $$ overbudget every year.
Trump was in office for 4 years.
Neither one of them is a conservative, but McConnell has enriched himself and his family while in office just like Democrats do. Trump has not.
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Absolutely makes no sense why Biden’s Beotch would advocate tax increases.
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Gives Trump some good advice, IMO.”
He won’t take it.
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Erica the red has no specifics. Triple cheeseburger please.
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Every speech, including tonite townhall,
close the border.
drill baby drill
no tax on tips, ot, and ss.
tariff Mexico /ccp.
erica the red, trump not talking about the issues.
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McConnell has been a “conservative” in power and has presided over a budget that is trillions of $$ overbudget every year.”
Zzzzz…..
And Trump was happy to sign “overbudget” bills no problem. I know, I know, NYC thinks “he just signed them”.
At least McConnell never said something as stupid as Trump. did, “deficits don’t matter, we can just keep printing money”.
Of course, NYC used to think big spending Rs were “bad”, until Trump.
Then Trump got a free pass every year.
And remember when NYC said he was “against tariffs”?
Of course, when Trump’s started his stupid tariffs and trade wars, all of a sudden they were the “best tariffs and trade wars in the history of mankind”.
NYC is a poor bastard always at war with himself and always willing to sell whatever “conservative” principles he had down the river.
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cut energy prices by half= sharp reduction in inflation.
Erica does mention “going to Springfield” but trump,already said he was. Nothing new there from Erica the red.
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We need tax increases.
free passers and Biden’s Beotch agree
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“Neither one of them is a conservative”
No, Trump is not a conservative.
McConnell has been an actual conservative and an actual Republican for decades and decades, he didn”t borrow the labels in the last 5 minutes of his political life like Trump.
McConnell EARNED his reputation as a conservative, he didn’t have to buy it or borrow it.
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“Then hit the road. Go to middle American cities in swing states and spend time with the local news stations. Ignore Fox and CNN. Instead, spend time with the local press and citizens in Eau Claire, Wisconsin, or Cadillac, Michigan, or Altoona, Pennsylvania. Go to Las Vegas and Winston-Salem, North Carolina, and Tucson, Arizona, and Atlanta. Everywhere you go, start and end with where you ended the debate: Harris has been on the job for over three and a half years, and look at the economy, the border and crime.
When reporters inevitably do their jobs and ask you tough questions about 2020, you are not disciplined enough to avoid taking the bait. But you can still say, regardless of 2020, Harris is there now, and look at the economy, the border and crime.”
-Agree with this for sure.
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It would be better off if Biden’s Beotch just quit the disguise and root for quemala.
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Erick Erickson is a Never Trumper moron.
He is right that Trump surrounds himself with people who often don’t serve his interests well.
Both can be true.
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”go to American cities”. Thank you Erica.
doesn’t tonight count, flint, mi?
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I am against tariffs, theoretically, just like Reagan was.
But like Reagan, sometimes for political reasons, and short-term calculations, and maybe to negotiate better deals, using tariffs as a cudgel against an adversary is necessary.
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I don’t know any Rs that would ever go to Flint. Not even Quittens who was born in Michigan.
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The US military is depleted because of Ukraine spending.
I oppose money to strengthen the US military.
I had no issue with Trump’s spending.
– Cult Member
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This right too.
“Additionally, if you were wise, you would spend less time surrounding yourself with people like Laura Loomer and others who whisper to you that all is well. All is not well. The American people are still willing to give you a chance, but you are more interested in talking about the crazy things fed to you from the online world than the real-world things normal, undecided voters care about.
At this point, as has been true for some time, you will not pivot. You will not change who you are. But if you do not change your conduct, you will lose and go to prison. Your campaign is staffed well with competent people at the highest level. They are not the problem. Who you’ve surrounded yourself with and what you say is the problem. If you do not fix those things, you will lose, and a prison sentence looms”
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He definitely should tariff the Ccp cars coming through from Mexico.
Tariff the Ccp for the China virus (reparations).
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The military is actually depleted thanks to the sheot going to the grifter.
https://www.heritage.org/missile-defense/commentary/its-past-time-re-supply-our-munitions-depleted-us-navy
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“McConnell EARNED his reputation as a conservative, he didn’t have to buy it or borrow it.”
-Oh Lord.
With Republicans who admire politicians like this, its a good reason why our national debt has exploded like it has.
Just like “CG” who said the child molester Hastert was a conservative, and overlooked that these SOBs would never reduce the power of the federal leviathan if it meant giving up any of their own power.
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I am against tariffs, theoretically,”
LOL
No, you WERE against tariffs, but since Trump adopted the failed AFL-CIO agenda of the last 70 years and implemented a trade policy based on idiotic tariffs and stupid trade wars, you of course sold out your “conservative” principle (and yes, free trade, free markets and free enterprise are CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES”.
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No way can we counter the Ccp, the #1 threat.
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we have baby steps here..
No peace proposal became a peace proposal.
weapons are not depleted became weapons are depleted.
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SOBs would never reduce the power of the federal leviathan if it meant giving up any of their own power.”
Zzzzz….
Like Trump, who as a liberal democrat for decades said Democratic policies were better for the economy.
Like Trump, a crony capitalist with ZERO interest in limited government who said deficits don’t matter, print more money.
You really think Trump is the man to “reduce the power of the federal leviathan”.
Really?
Whenever I think you can’t say something stupider, you rise to the occasion.
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Zzzzzzzz As Vic has explained repeatedly smart enough to understand, most of the military aid sent to Ukraine was destined to be retired or outdated.
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Biden’s Beotch is no conservative.
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Trump won in 2016, mentioning tariffs at every stop.
If you think short-term use of tariffs is not a political benefit, then so be it.
Principles are a guide but Politics is not a religion. I’ll stay flexible, unlike “deadenders” who won’t vote for Trump. Thanks.
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our military is depleted. Period end of story.
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“You really think Trump is the man to “reduce the power of the federal leviathan”.”
-If Trump gets back in, and RFK, Musk and the like are given seats at the table, a Republican Congress with Mitch McConnell at the helm will be their biggest impediment.
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He definitely should tariff the Ccp cars coming through from Mexico.
Tariff the Ccp for the China virus (reparations)”
Zzzzzz…..
This would just be another tax on the American people, especially those least able to afford it.
Tariffs will hurt American consumers a lot more than they will hurt China.
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You can add in goober, thune, and the next fill in for Quittens.
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Trump has been saying lots of things for the past 50 years.
Then he governed for 4 years.
He was better than both Bushes, without a doubt.
Was he everything I wanted when it came to spending? No, not at all, but better than those 2 by far.
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our military is depleted. Period end of story.”
Ahhh, so maybe we SHOULD fund it more?
You can’t have it both ways.
I am glad you came around to McConnell’s position.
Baby steps, baby steps.
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Incorrect, prices declined the most once trump enacted his tariffs against the Ccp. That dog won’t hunt.
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“Tariffs will hurt American consumers a lot more than they will hurt China.”
-2017-Feb 2020 American consumer says something different.
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I don’t support tax increases like fake Rs
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Trump has been saying lots of things for the past 50 years.”
Yeah, but you only believe what you want to believe.
But take it to the bank, he has flip flopped a lot because he has no core values, but the ONE thing that he has always been consistent on is economic isolationism.
It is one of the Democratic and AFL-CIO doctrines he has never abandoned.
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“Ahhh, so maybe we SHOULD fund it more?”
-Yeah, our government needs MORE money to spend……and this guy says he is a conservative…..
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Incorrect, prices declined the most once trump enacted his tariffs against the Ccp.”
BS. Tariffs increase prices.
You really are a moron.
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Biden’s Beotch will be used against every r.
Biden’s Beotch supports tax increases, so do you?
He is an ied.
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Our military isn’t depleted. The equipment we are “sending” is surplus, antiquated and not usable for us, or comes from nations whom we sent the equipment to already (70+%). You’d be surprised where it all comes from BUT it has not depleted us.
We send NO sophisticated weapons, aircraft, high tech weaponry. etc etc etc
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Back to “isolationism”!! LOL!
Ok, that’s enough. Says the same crap over and over, despite the evidence showing otherwise.
Believe what you want, jason. Harris will be worse, so I’ll concentrate on getting Trump in there and then I’ll worry about his (laughable) “isolationism”!! LOL!
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Nope, prices went down.
try again
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-Yeah, our government needs MORE money to spend……and this guy says he is a conservative…..”
Yes, i support more funding for the Pentagon, more funds for recruiting, more funds for the Navy for more ships, more military aid for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.
And yes, that is a CONSERVATIVE position.
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Nope, prices went down.”
Tina just invented a new law of economics.
Well, she thinks she did.
The ignorance is astounding.
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“BS. Tariffs increase prices.”
-On certain goods.
And consumers had choices. And from 2017-Feb 2020, the American consumer liked the choices they had, and were in support of those policies in place.
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Key Finding
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us import prices 2019-2020. Check out the decline.
but Muh tariffs raise prices wrote the tax raiser
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But you supported Trump signing massive spending bills without comment. You never protested Trump saying deficits don’t matter because we can just print more money.
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And from 2017-Feb 2020, the American consumer liked the choices they had, and were in support of those policies in place.”
Zzzzzzzz…..
Drivel and garbage.
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And Tina is not a Republican anyway.
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The Trump administration imposed nearly $80 billion worth of new taxes on Americans by levying tariffs on thousands of products valued at approximately $380 billion in 2018 and 2019, amounting to one of the largest tax increases in decades.
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“Nope, prices went down.”
-Gas definitely did. Which then reduced costs for transportation of goods.
Not sure why jason is arguing about what already happened back in those 3+ years with Trump before covid.
Wages were also going up, for the lowest paid workers.
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You never protested Trump saying deficits don’t matter because we can just print more money.”
Of course not.
The “problem” is McConnell….
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Gas definitely did. Which then reduced costs for transportation of goods.”
Wait, Trump imposed tariffs on gas?
No, gas prices went down because domestic production went up.
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NT at 11:00.
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“But you supported Trump signing massive spending bills without comment.”
-Not true. He should have vetoed a lot of those bloated budgets passed with Republican help……but then you guys would complain about potential shutdowns of government if bills got vetoed……both of you are all in favor of the Potomac 2 step.
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I won’t be here.
Maybe NYC and TIna can continue their trip into lalaland, where economic laws don’t exist because Trump did away with them.
Talk about a cult.
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“No, gas prices went down because domestic production went up.”
-Exactly, just like Tina said, prices went down, for gas and transportation costs.
Thank you. We agree
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“Talk about a cult.”
-Says the guy who will stay home and potentially allow Harris/Walz to win the White House…..
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but then you guys would complain about potential shutdowns of government”
Ah yes, maybe Rs should shut the government down for some grandstanding, and lose the House, Senate and the Presidency.
SEND A MESSAGE!
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Prices did not rise with the tariffs. They fell.
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Where did the “largest tax increase in decades” comment come from?
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Exactly, just like Tina said, prices went down, for gas and transportation costs.
Thank you. We agree”
LOL
There were no tariffs on gas, you are an idiot.
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Inflation fell to 1.7, after the tariffs. And remained low.
thank you.
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Trump isn’t a conservative because he signed bloated bills…….and he better not veto them and shut down the government or else we lose everything…..Let’s do The Potomac 2 step!
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I said import export prices dropped after the tariffs.
they went from 3.3% in 2018 to -2.0 percent in august of 2019.
thus, tariffs did not increase prices as maintained by the tax raiser
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That particular article came from here. Note that the article is also critical of Biden for not revoking the tariffs (because he also believes in the AFL-CIO failed agenda)
But I can show you dozens showing tariffs are just another tax increase.
And of course we have known this for a 100 years.
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs-biden-tariffs/
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Prices dropped and inflation and food prices were at historical lows, about 15 months after tariff implementation. Import export chart confirms this.
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“There were no tariffs on gas, you are an idiot.”
-Never said there were tariffs on gas.
Tina said prices went down. They did.
You are the one who keeps yapping about tariffs despite the economy from 2017-Feb 2020 showing no ill effects from tariffs imposed by our government, and consumers who enjoyed the Trump economy….but keep yapping about increased prices….
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thus, tariffs did not increase prices as maintained by the tax raiser”
Sure they did. You are an idiot talking about items that didn’t have tariffs like gas.
When you increase taxes, and you make goods more expensive, which was absolutely th result of Trump’s stupid tariffs and trade wars, you hurt the people less likely to be able to afford the increases.
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“And of course we have known this for a 100 years.”
-Founding Fathers and Reagan must have realized that politics is not a religion, and sometimes tariffs are useful. I’ll go with their lessons, and the economy we saw from 2017-Feb 2020 that you keep ignoring for some reason.
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Tina said prices went down. They did.”
The facts:
The Trump administration imposed nearly $80 billion worth of new taxes on Americans by levying tariffs on thousands of products valued at approximately $380 billion in 2018 and 2019, amounting to one of the largest tax increases in decades.
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Nope, they didn’t. You are wrong again tax raiser. I gave you the chart, cited the inflation at the time.
trumps tariffs did not cause prices to rise.
next.
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Ok, he just keeps yapping, and ignoring the real World we lived through in Trump’s first term.
On to the next issue.
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/02/27/the-golden-arrow-president-trump-announces-economic-agenda-47-which-includes-universal-baseline-tariffs/#more-243781
The economic data regarding import export prices and inflation is mentiomed in the article.
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and sometimes tariffs are useful.”
Actually, no, they are never useful.
Reagan imposed (wrongly) some very limited tariffs. I would have opposed them too.
But still, nothing as compared to Trump’s entire trade policy based on tariffs and trade wars against ALL our trading partners, not just China.
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https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/09/17/elon-musk-one-word-to-describe-hillary-clinton-n2401068
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Is he still yapping?
Dang those Energizer batteries!
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The tax increaser is wrong again.
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trumps tariffs did not cause prices to rise.”
That is, of course, a lie.
It made goods more expensive AND the tax increase made them less affordable for everyone (well, not spoiled elitists like Tina).
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Her Thighness is acting more and more like Pooty poot and the grifter. Any dissent get thrown in jail. I bet at least one free passer likes Hillary.
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“A worldwide 10 percent tariff and a 60 percent tariff on Chinese goods proposed by Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump would lower average after-tax incomes of US households in 2025 by about $1,800, or 1.8 percent, according to a new analysis by the Tax Policy Center. They’d reduce imports into the US by about $5.5 trillion, or 15 percent, from 2025–2034.”
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Bs prices fell and I gave you the chart to confirm. You are wrong.
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jason keeps arguing against Trump’s economic results from his previous time in office…..makes more sense that he will take his ball and go home this year……..but but but he is a conservative, like Mitch who wants to talk about a tax increase.
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The tax increaser is citing drat articles btw that mention future tariffs (2025).
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The tax raiser has not proven that prices rose from the 2017/2018 tariffs.
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I bet at least one free passer likes Hillary. Actually, I made that up.
Fixed it for Tina.
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They’d reduce imports into the US by about $5.5 trillion, or 15 percent, from 2025–2034.”
And of course, reduce the employment of all of those involved in the transportation, sales, marketing, promotion, etc. of such products. The stores used to sell them, the advertising, the whole supply chain. It would reduce the tax base and reduce wealth.
There is no getting around the laws of economics.
Tariffs are a TAX.
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like Mitch who wants to talk about a tax increase.”
Ah yes, another dishonest post that fails to mention it is for the Pentagon.
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jason looks at 1 input, a tariff. Doesn’t look at increased energy production which lowers gas prices, which lowers transportation costs, which lowers rates for containers being imported, etc etc etc
On to the next thing – TrueBeliever will never take another look at it, so not worth arguing over it.
I’ll let the results from 2017-Feb 2020 speak for themselves.
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Import export prices declined from 2018 to 2019. Thus, tariffs did not increase prices.
inflation was also at a historical low.
Without citing drat talking points , try again.
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he tax raiser has not proven that prices rose “
That is like saying I haven’t proven rain is made of water.
Tariffs cause an increase in prices.
To deny that is to try to invent a new economic principle.
I doubt Tina is qualified for that.
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oesn’t look at increased energy production which lowers gas prices, which lowers transportation costs,”
Because it is a complete non-sequitur, there was no tariff on gas.
But you know that.
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The free passer is a mess. Citing drat articles about 2025 tariffs (tariffs not enacted, then worried about price increases, and then wanting Biden’s Beotch tax increases.
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I’ll let the results from 2017-Feb 2020 speak for themselves.”
Ok, we can move on.
The results have spoken.
The Trump administration imposed nearly $80 billion worth of new taxes on Americans by levying tariffs on thousands of products valued at approximately $380 billion in 2018 and 2019, amounting to one of the largest tax increases in decades.
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A tariff is a tax but I want mitchies tsc increases.
-free passer
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https://x.com/BenTelAviv/status/1836094065970233684
-More benefits from the Israeli pager surprise
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Still no prior of that trumps tariffs caused prices to increase.
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Citing drat articles about 2025 tariffs”
You are confused.
There were two articles I quoted.
One for the previous tariffs, one for the new ones.
Both mean (meant) a tax increase AND a price increase.
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but I want mitchies tsc increases.”
I thought you said the military was “depleted”.
Shouldn’t that be corrected?
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“The Trump administration imposed nearly $80 billion worth of new taxes on Americans by levying tariffs on thousands of products valued at approximately $380 billion in 2018 and 2019, amounting to one of the largest tax increases in decades.“
-Which was responsible for a roaring economy…….!?!?!?
LOL!
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The import export price chart is embedde in the Cth article.
Import export prices plunged post tariff
inflation dropped.
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You are confused, there were no price increases with trumps tariffs.
you want Biden’s beotchs tax increases.
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This is way too easy here.
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“Because it is a complete non-sequitur, there was no tariff on gas.”
-There wasn’t. Nobody said there was.
If a product cost goes up, but other inputs to the final cost of an item go down, then the final cost may be lower than before, which is what happened in many cases back from 2017-202, which is why the economy was so good…….
Can you acknowledge that consumers, aka voters, liked the Trump economy during his time in office?
That is the only question that matters.
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Food,inflation was 0.5 in 2019.
Vs 28% 3.5 years later.
but the chia pet will tell us that inflation is going down.
(chia pet = press secretary in case Bl,wakes up)
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/kamala-harris-suggests-she-open-215543077.html
-jason will keep arguing about tariffs while Kamala pushes reparations.
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You would have seen import export prices rise (and inflation) if trumps tariffs caused prices to rise. The chart confirms the opposite.
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Night gang.
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