Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
 | GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
| GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
257 responses to “Ready. Set. Debate!”
Against Progressives
Erick-Woods Erickson
Sep 05, 2024
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“Post-modernism is a weird place to be. There is no real truth anymore, only narrative. Each person can have their own truth and who are we to judge? Exceptions are now the rule so the sky cannot be blue because some colorblind person does not see it that way so none of us are allowed to declare it blue. It is oppressive and maddening.
Into post-modernism has crept a new matrix for power called intersectionalism. It is derived from Marxism, which views the whole world in terms of power dynamics. Intersectionalism maps out those power dynamics based on race, ethnicity, sex, gender (embracing the trans pathology), sexuality, ability, religion, education, and more. The class that has the most power is that disfavored class. The class with the most moral authority is the favored class.
For progressives of the left, a white, male, heterosexual, cis-gendered (that is, not trans), Christian, with no disability is the height of oppression. A black, female, transgendered, lesbian, Muslim who is missing a leg is the height of moral authority. ”
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It’s good to have Walt here. He watched debates in the Roman Senate so his perspective is unique.
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How did Eric the reds vote for demented turn out?
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right
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I say Kamala wins the debate, especially after Trump takes his shoe off and throws it at her for calling him a convicted felon and tells her she better get a new set of knee pads.
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Ready for the debate between an opportunistic, non-ideological nut job who earns big negatives and who favors lots of sensible polices,
and
a progressive, far left whack job who is against everything America has always stood for and that made us what we are, and who USED to favor all sorts of nutty ideas but now does not, but she “has not changed her core values.”
We shall see how “fair and balanced” the moderators are.
I sure hope they ask what kind of tree Kamala would like to be and what is her favorite ice cream.
God help us.
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So far, Trump has not made any unforced errors.
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Kamala looking good in her stylish, pant suit with the see-through top.Trump thought about groping her when she walked by, but resisted the temptation.
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Moderators caught handing Kamala the lost of questions coming her way.
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LIST of questions…
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I have Kamala as the debate winner.
-free passer
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Trump says “Kamala is basing her campaign on hope. Hoping people forget the last 3 and 1/2 years.
Kamala retorts that Trump hopes people forget when he led the armed attack on the Capitol on Jan 6 that killed 124 police officers.
Trump throws shoe and calls her a b!tch.
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Trump and Kamala now on the ground between the podiums rolling around, wrestling, pulling hair. Moderators trying to restore order.
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Kamala calls Trump a nazi.
Trump calls Kamala a communist.
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Since Harris was given the dem nomination ABC news media reports on her have been 100% positive and 94% negative on Trump. Of course this will be a fair and balanced debate (choking…..).
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Trump blames Biden/Harris for runaway inflation.
Kamala says inflation started because of Trump’s policies.
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Trumps task…make Kamala look like the crazy commie bitch she is.
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Kamaaaaalllla
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Moderators ask Trump why he led the armed rebellion to overthrow the government on J6.
Moderators ask Kamala what kind of tree she would most likely to be.
Trump asks Kamala a question about her husband getting the nanny pregnant during his affair with the nanny.
Kamala retorts that she will have Tim Walz shove tampons upon both of Trump’s nostrils.
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Trumps gonna win PA by a couple points in the legal vote.
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Just dropping by with my quadrennial prediction which is guaranteed to be right.
No matter how the candidates do today, the number of voters who will change their minds from one candidate to the other will be a grand total of ZERO.
The miniscule portion of the electorate that is truly undecided will split evenly or remain undecided.
Enjoy all, i’m going to play some scrabble with the family.
Big Joe
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First, The odds of Trump going unhinged are higher than Kamala having an incoherent laughing fit or a Joe Biden moment.
Second, look for a hidden microphone in Kamala’s ear (which will be very hard to see because of her long hair). The mic will be her handlers telling her what to say.
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In an unusual and unprecended twist, the moderators have told the candidates there will be no questions about issues. Instead, the two candidates will be playing a game of Jeopardy! and they have to phrase their answers in the form of a question. After the commercial break the will reveal the seven categories.
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So far, I say the debate is about even.
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(for real) I have heard the talking heads say that “violent crime is way down, in some cases by double digits.”
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“wage increases are now outpacing inflation.”
smh…
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Kamala shocks the moderators when she says that to get Putin to end the war on Ukraine, she will ask him if “he wants some of this” and points some where below the podium.
Trump say he thinks Putin has better taste than that.
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I apologize.
I was out in the garage smoking a cigar and Cash Cow has been on my laptop pretending to be me for the last hour.
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Here we go.
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Here we go….
They shake hands.
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I should have bet the handshakes
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Harris says she will give away my money to other people.
Trump talks about inflation, immigration and trade.
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PROJECT 2025!
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Harris – J6
Trump – Has not read Project 2025.
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Kamala tries to bait Trump.
Trump does admirable retort.
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“tax cuts for rich is bad” KH
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Tariffs!
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Trump – China ripping us off. Biden never cut Tariffs.
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David Muir calls Trump….President Trump.
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Trump hitting huge number of illegals.
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Harris is a Marxist – Trump
Harris – Trump was good to China even though China caused COVID.
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ABORTION!
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Abortion
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Trump trying to explain his abortion stance on FL abortion referendum.
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Great to tie in immigration to the economy.
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Do you really think suburban moms are going to trust and like Harris? They do most of the grocery shopping.
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Trump making wild charges about Tim Walz’s position on abortion?
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Trump saying the abortion issue goes back to the state.
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More abortion.
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Abortion…
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I wish he would stop saying that everyone agrees with overturning Roe v. Wade.
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KH–“20 states have 100% abortion bans?”
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And more abortion.
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again, project 2025
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In case you missed it…..more abortion.
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Thats false. Ther are not 20 states with a 100% ban on abortion
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Trump getting louder. Chill. Stay on target.
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im cringing thinking he’s blowing it
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Where are Tina, Jan, Jeff and everyone to comment and hold my hand through this
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So many lies…..so much obfuscation by Harris. I can’t keep tract.
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KH rambling….abortion…then morphs into Trump being against IVF?
KH speaks over Trump while he is talking.
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Harris – Trump is opposed to IVF
Trump – He supports IVF
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Trump from Queens comes out at some point in debates.
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buty, is she being called out for her lies by the moderators, or by Trump
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Bill to deal with the border that Trump opposed and was never voted on…
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he needs to say that it would hamper all future presidents to live by Biden’s policy, which is why he and Republicans opposed it, and it would have have stemmed illegal immigration
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Oh, God.
Trump wants to talk about his rallies and the size thereof.
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Trump back on how harmful illegal immigration is. Illegals eating pet dogs and cats.
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KH baited him and Trump took the bait.
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Trump – Illegals eating pets. People like his rallies.
Muir – No credible pet eating stories.
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I don’t think this debate will do much either way. This has turned into a change election. Which is why Trumps polling numbers are decent.
Oh no CATS… Harris purposely triggered Trump regarding his rallies.
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Now Harris is getting cheeky and Trump is going off topic and generalized. Should not have brought up Springfield…Harris is acting smug and condescending.
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KH==I have the endorsement of so many Republicans.
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Bad moment for Trump.
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Yep…
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More bait for Trump…
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Harris – Has endorsement of Republicans. List of people who worked for Trump who hate him.
Trump – I fired most of those people.
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The pets thing is a bad moment? or what else happened.
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Queens Trump is out now. Presidential Trump lasted 15 minutes.
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30 minutes and I think Trump has gone off the rails. He is rattled and Harris knows it by her smuge and hand on her chin response.
This is not going well for Trump at all.
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Ironically, I don’t think the pets thing is a bad thing for Trump. People are genuinely upset about it, and there was a picture that was legit of the illegal with the goose.
Mess with peoples pets and they get pissed. Plus all the memes. I think its a net win subject for Trump
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Trump says he got more votes than any other president ?
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It was silly for him to bring it up.
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Trump talking angrily is not a good look.
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Trump back on same broken record of criminal illegals coming in.
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Queens Trump Jan.
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How will Trump deport millions?
Trump – Venezuela’s crime down because we have their criminals thanks to Harris.
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Trump losing it.
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Here comes reference to Trump’s lawfare stuff. Cheap shot.
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Do I see the election slipping away?
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LOL
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Harris – List of Trump’s crimes.
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TRUMP has been prosecuted..! KH
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Good response by Trump on lawfare.
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I think thats a losing issue for Harris. It shows how the government can be weaponized against someone. People know the charges were bogus
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Trump not being very clear in his arguments, IMO.
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Yep
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No
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Trump is dangerous according to Harris.
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Trump – Weaponization of law against him.
Harris – Trump is a threat to America.
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Trump – I took a bullet to head because of them.
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ABC crew keeping Harris accountable to some degree.
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FRACKING, etc. changes by KH? question by moderator
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JeffP thats good to know.
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Harris vs fracking. Here comes another life story to distract from her flip flops.
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Fracking – Harris won’t ban it. (After moderator listed her previous positions).
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Usual unfortunately. He is not mastered proper grammar. It drives my daughters crazy. But they will vote for him.
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BS I know operators personally here who are shutting down their businesses because they know what’s coming
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She is now for fracking because her school classmate when she was young was sexual assaulted.
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If I was a boxing trainer watching a fight I would throw the towel in for Trump. Trump was not prepared for this.
And Harris did not have to do anything…she looked silly, anxious and ill prepared herself…but Trump is embarrassing himself by going all over the place with topics.
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Trump has a great rebuttal on Harris flip flops.
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How could he not be prepared, He’s literally had four years to get ready for this moment.
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Trump – Harris will never allow fracking in PA.
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Trump is his own worst enemy.
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JAN 6!
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Trump does not answer question and goes back to illegal aliens.
Christ.
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Is there anything you(Trump) regret about Jan 6?
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Trump setting the record straight on Jan 6 to some degree.
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Trump offered 10,000 NG troops days before, but Pelosi refused.
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Harris is so disgusting…if she wins move to a red state.
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Harris – Charlottesville
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KH–Trump incited Jan 6 rebellion and that is why he was impeached.
Charlottesville…
Proud boys…
turn the page…
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Most people watching don’t know that.
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Charlottesville is a big lie by Harris,
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Trump – Pelosi turned down National Guard
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Aka the fine people hoax.
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KH–Trump says there will be violence and a bloodbath if he does not win.
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Bringing up debunked lies. Police officers on J6 killed? Charlottesville?
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Trump – Charlottesville story debunked.
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Trump goes back to illegal aliens…
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If J6 was a rebellion it was literally the worst one in all human history. No weapons. No plans. No premeditation. WTF, how can they call that a rebellion.
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Illegals is a top issue. Hence all the pet eatings. It’s more of an issue than the fine people’s hoax that was debunked.
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Trump – They should wake up Biden and he can order the border closed.
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Sign a bill??? It’s an executive order Mr President.
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LOL
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2020 election outcome? Does Trump acknowledge he lost?
Trump implies it was fraudulent.
Trump back on illegal aliens.
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Trump says he was being sarcastic when he said he lost by a whisker.
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He is dominating her ever since he copied her and said it’s my time to talk. This is a mauling
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lmao, if he said he lost by a whisker thats pretty brilliant
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ABC abusing trap issues to make Trump look bad.
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*using
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And David Dick moderator is blowing the debate.
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Muir: Is TRump trying to intimidate voters in 2024 by saying he will put cheaters in jail?
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It’s a 3 on one debate.
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Harris – Trump was fired by 81 million Americans.
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Static on broadcast. In and out on ABC.
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Pipelines…
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Trump – No problems in world when he was President.
Biden hates her.
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Israel/Hamas war.
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I think trump is blowing up too much…losing his cool. Harris, OTOH, has lied her a** off but has remained calm.
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Trump is completely on defensive….the entire night. I don’t know how much this changes the dynamic of the race because Harris didn’t have to do anything other than that giving us that smirk and smile every time Trump speaks.
Trump failed miserable tonight.
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Harris – Calls Hamas a terrorist organization. Israel has a right to defend itself but how it does so matters. 2 state solution.
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Biden hates her…😂
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KH–Israel/Gaza
Israel has right to defend itself.
too many palistinians have been killed.
need cease fire and hostages released.
two state solution.
and all palistinians can vote in U.S. elections (just kidding on that one)
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I want to shoot Trump in the ear.
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Good ME comments by Trump.
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Trump says he will get all wars ended in a month.
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He can’t help it. It’s who he is…New Yorker is his blood. I am used to it. I just wish he could be more articulate.
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KH–Trump wants to be a dictator.
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Not funny
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KH–Trump wrote love letters to Kim Il Jung.
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Careful, Jan. Tina will call you a free passer.
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Trump back on illegal aliens….
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Trump on the defensive but it won’t matter much. Everyone knows who Trump is.
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The lack of an audience really leaves a vacuum in the room. It creates a robotic dullness to the debate.
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I know that a lot of times we makes jokes here, and trash each other, but this election really matters. I have two young boys. 8 and 10. A country where Kamala Harris is President, heck, a country where someone so unqualified like Kamala Harris can become President will shape their lives in a dramatically negative way.
I can’t believe anyone here who says the country will be the same with her, or without her. Because it won’t. She is lying. All the insane, leftist, marxists, socialist, whatever ist word you want to use, will be put in place, and it will not only ruin this country, but make this country nearly unlivable for them.
This election matters.
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she has no answer for the mullahs, other than Muh trump.
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wow, that was quite a comment by Hugh Hewitt that Tina posted!
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Commercial break:
So far, Trump full of bluster and hyperbole.
KH APPEARS to be more calm, cool and collected. (using her role as prosecutor)
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Isnt Hugh Hewitt an anti-trumper
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Seriously true words, Vic
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I don’t know, but I thought he worked for abc?
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I agree…I hope Trump doesn’t blow it. It’s his to win.
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I wish Trump would give an answer to the Jan. 6 question that didn’t seem so insecure.
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Hewitt has been back and forth with Trump.
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Scorecafd:
How much I learned about what Trump wants to do in next 4 years? D
How much I learned about what Kamala wants to do in next 4 years: D
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Harris comes off as fake.
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Moderators asked good questions and both candidates refused to actually answer them.
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What I am seeing from comments that friends are sending me is that Harris has literally ZERO expectations. No one expects her to do well. She doesn’t need to articulate her positions or policies. All she was programmed to do was say, Trump is bad for America, Trump is bad for you, Trump is bad. And that is her entire platform
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She has that smirk. It is ridiculous and not presidential.
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Ukraine – Trump going to sell it out.
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quemala did not answer the are you better then 4 years ago ?
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Trump has not smiled once. Harris grins and smiles continuously – no cackling.
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UKRAINE/RUSSIA WAR!
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Trump will be afraid to win the Ukraine war too.
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I have a flight to JFK at 7 am and then onto Frankfurt. I need to calm down and get some sleep. Harris is disgusting.
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I don’t see a better outcome for Ukraine with Harris or Trump. Neither will let Ukraine win.
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KH–Trump will abandon Ukraine.
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Trump wants a deal and not a Ukrainian victory.
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KH says she and she alone rallied Europe to help defend Ukraine.
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says who Bitter?
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KH baits Trump over Ukrain and (Poland)
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Trump takes bait…
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KH–Trump lied, I never met with Putin.
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sometimes I think maybe Trump doesn’t want to be President, he just likes being in the limelight…though this is his last hour in the limelight. If he loses, Republicans will not nominate an 82 year old two time loser.
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It’s easier to uphold norms when your opponents fear you.
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Trump – Putin has nukes.
Harris was sent to negotiate with Putin and Zelensky and then the war started.
Harris – Never met with Putin before war.
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Soapbox Harris. She sounds dramatic but so insincere.
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AFGHANISTAN!
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What about Syria? Is Syria a war zone?
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KH–afghanistan debacle was Trump’s fault.
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Harris – Agreed with decision to pull out of Afghanistan.
Trump negotiated with Taliban.
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The one thing Trump has going for him is that, unless he totally fails tonight, I am not sure it affects the outcome. Everyone knows him after 8 years. They know what he is like at a debate. They are going to vote their pocketbook, not this debate, UNLESS, he totally blows it. Does anything think he’s totally blowing it??
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Does Harris know that we have soldiers in Syria?
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I heard Harris was sent over to Ukraine to negotiate not necessarily meet with Putin.
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Will Trump fumble his response?
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Glad Trump mentioned the Americans left behind
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she failed again to mention the 13 soldiers killed
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Trump says:
Trump incoherent.
And that is why Russia attacked Ukraine.
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of course she did. I bet she doesn’t know even one of their names. I hope he takes advantage of this. How the he double hockey sticks did she blame Trump for their horrible withdrawal. He hadn’t been President for seven months.
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Man, I miss CNN.
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Harris – Trump uses race to divide people.
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The Dems use identity politics to divide and now it’s being twisted by Harris.
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KAMALA’S RACE!
Trump–I don;t care what race she calls herself.
Kamala–Trump is a big divider, and Trump refused to rent to black people.
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on track for Thursday return. Trump doing okay, no change in election from this debate
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Glad you chimed in DW
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Trump–they (the dems) are destroying our country
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Trump–inflation, she is Biden
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Trump was destroying our country and wants to finish the job.
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KH–“I have a plan…” (economic)
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Meds Paul. Meds….
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$25,000 free downpayment = Inflation
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Obamacare.
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This has not been either an impressive or informative debate. Harris has been coached to sound empathetic and caring. Trump comes across as belligerent.
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VictrC,
President Trump is not blowing it. He is being pretty much the way he always is.
Both sides will claim victory. The Trump side will point out the ABC moderator’s complete pro-Harris bias. I don’t think anyone’s mind will be changed and both sides will gear up for a sprint to the finish line. The trendline favored Trump over the last several days and, after to pause of a week or so, the trendline for Trump will pick up again.
This was a noisy brawl and that’s all it was.
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Thanks Marv. All Trump had to do was not blow it. And all Kamala wanted was for him to blow it. She is completely devoid of any substance whatsoever.
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Harris not taking guns away because she and Walz owns guns? And yet they both talk about gun confiscation!
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Tina v Jan battle in 3…2…1…
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Fact-checking Harris will be a lengthy process.
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Climate change. Drink.
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OK.
I have seen all I could stomach.
Incoherent man
Obfuscating woman.
Both bad debaters.
Neither wants to tell us what they will do next 4 years.
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I am sure that ANY and EVERY R candidate for president would have done just as badly as TRUMP in articulating the conservative/non-whack-a-doodle position vis a vis Kamala the progressive. (sarc/off)
Let the Great Deception continue.
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China.
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Haley or DeSantis or Cotton. Gosh, I wish Tom Cotton was on that stage.
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Post debate thread loaded for 11:20.
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President Trump was totally in character the whole night. We saw nothing new or out of the ordinary. He was simply Trump being Trump.
Harris, on the other hand spent the entire evening smirking and provoking a fight.
All President Trump had to do was not blow it. Mission accomplished.
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Probably Marv is right, that nothing will change because of this debate. However, I don’t always like how the Queens Trump comes across. I support him for his policies and actions, not always his words.
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Too,many weird faces by quemala with the split set on abc
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Harris is such a con artist. She espouses core values when she has none.
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3 1/2 years is a good rebuttal
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janzam,
That’s where I was going with my comment. I doubt anyone’s mind will changed by this debate. It was a 15 round fight with no clear winner. That is all that Trump needed to maintain his underlying lead on the basic issues of the election.
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question is, how will those suburban moms who are “on the fence” view Komrade Kamala, becaues they already hate Trump
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Aaron Burr was the worst VP in history. Yeah. I said it.
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Trump still leads at Polymarket. Lost 4 pts on Predict, Kamala gained 2.
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Strong rebuttal/close by trump.
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Kelly Ayotte easily wins GOP primary in NH.
More votes in the GOP primary than the Dem.
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I like ayottw.
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Why hasn’t she done it is the debate line of the night.
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why hasn’t she done what?
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Frank dunce said that quemala is willing on substance but visually she is losing.
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See trumps epic closing statement she had 3.5 years to fix the problems she created and can change it now.
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VictrC,
It was Trump’s closing statement where he asked repeatedly why she didn’t do all the things already that she plans to do on “Day One”.
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This was a debate that Trump lost. Pure and simple for lack of preparedness. Harris didn’t do anything special other than let Trump dig himself in one hole after to hole. But on the other hand, Harris looked every bit as a scorned wife hearing the judge l;owering the boom on her ex during divorce hearings….D’s will love it but will undecideds?
That smirk, snicker and leer was oft-putting from her. She didn’t do anything tonight other than let Trump embarrass himself for lack of being ready. She didn’t really elevate herself but let Trump depress himself.
A bad debate….perhaps Harris gains a point or a point and half and nothing more. But a big disappointment from both camps especially from Trump.
Time to got forward….and PS-don’t bother watching the other channels….this will pass.
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The ending statement won the debate. Close imo. But the smirking and facial expressions by quemala were negatives.
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Independent news saying it was a 3 to 1 advantage for Harris in how the moderators became her “wingmen,” only fact-checking Trump not Harris throughout the debate. In fact killing live babies did happen in Minnesota, a statement the moderators erroneously fact-checked as “wrong.”
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Some good signs for Ayotte.
She won handily, 2-1 against a good candidate, Chuck Morse.
More votes in the R primary.
Dem primary was bitterly contested, the winner didn’t get 50%, only won by 6, lots of hard feelings.
The R primary for HD 1 is a dogfight, 1300 votes separates the first place from the third place.
Russell Prescott GOP14,954
25.6%
Hollie Noveletsky GOP13,991
24.0%
Joseph Levasseur GOP13,632
23.4%
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NT
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Seriously. New Thread.
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Not voting for Trump the dog eater or Vance the sofa fucker.
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