Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
 | GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
| GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
132 responses to “New thread? Sure.”
Everyone loved Trump when he was a Democrat.
https://x.com/simpyblessedoma/status/1827347136117170381/photo/1
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I still believe that if Hillary had not planned on running in 2016, Trump would have run as a Democrat. Sue me.
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ironically if he had. He’d have been reelected in a landslide. Suit filed
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Jd Vance continues to impress with his Sunday media interviews. They prolly won’t allow him on these shows in the future as he continues to embarrass the hosts.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/mainstream-media-fact-checkers-rip-kamala-harris-dnc/
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“they prolly won’t allow him on these shows in the future”
They could always ask Ron Paul to stand in for him…
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Schumer says he will nuke the filibuster if Dems get trifecta.
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If all that passes we will be in a completely different America and basically one party rule.
Oh, I forgot.
Amnesty and citizenship for 20 million illegals.
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Yep. They get all that and that’s all she wrote.
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Will happen sooner or later. Inevitable result of the far left wing education starting with the far left NEA and 95% of academia. Combine that with 90% of the MSM and then multiply it all by decades.
I was hoping for later.
Contrary to what Bitter thinks, none of this has anything to do with “Trump hatred” or any single issue like abortion and everything to do with ideology.
America up until the early 2000’s was “center right”. At the time only about 20% identified as liberal, about half of the conservative identification. When politicians were called “liberal”, they tried to deny it. No mainstream politician went on TV and said “I am a liberal” unless it was somebody on the extreme like Dennis Kucinich. Liberals like George McGovern and Fritz Mondale and even Bill Clinton did not run as such. In 2008 Obama ran as “non-partisan”, “post-partisan” not as a liberal. Even Joe Biden ran as a moderate Scranton Joe. Kamala Harris is actually the first mainstream nominee to openly run as a full blown liberal. She is not hiding the agenda, nobody really believes she changed her mind on fracking or open borders.
She is doing this because she thinks liberals finally are the majority in enough states to win. The party nominated her for the same reason.
It is a gamble that may or may not pay off, but it is where we are.
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This election is not a referendum on Trump, and not a referendum on Kamala.
It is a referendum on capitalism vs. socialism.
And even if capitalism “wins” this time, the ideological trend is against it.
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This is what America is voting on. That is why I am skeptical on whether a “nice Trump” or “mean Trump” makes any difference.
In my view, Trump and Kamala are along for the ride. Kamala has put forth her vision
Trump has put forth his vision
At the end the day, the vast majority of people will be choosing the agenda, not the person. The people who are voting on the person are a small minority on each end of the spectrum.
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I heart amnesty
-Rino R
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Bitterlaw: Trump would have failed as a democrat. He would’ve switched to be an independent like RFK and likely ended similarly.
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/huge-robert-f-kennedy-jr-teases-more-big/
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https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4639483-joe-biden-pennsylvania-lng-liquefied-natural-gas-lng-bob-casey-david-mccormick/
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Paul – Why? Trump was loved by Democrats and Planned Parenthood. Dem celebrities loved him. He would have just kept his Dem policies. He is not and has never been a conservative.
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yes Bitter. He only governs as one
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My wine chick friends say that Bush was the only conservative in the last 30 years.
-free passer
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Bush was certainly more conservative than Trump.
But that is a very low bar.
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Yeah “conservative” if you like wars, open borders, bailouts.
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Nobody ever said that.
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yes Bitter. He only governs as one”
I beg to differ.
Trump does not “govern” as a conservative.
His stupid tariffs and trade policies are not conservative, they are the failed agenda of the ultra liberal AFL-CIO.
His big spending bills are not conservative, did you ever hear a conservative say “deficits don’t matter, you can always just print more money”?
His failure to understand America’s interests abroad while mouthing cheap slogans like “pay your fair share” is not conservative, the Dems are the traditional isolationists on foreign policy.
Trump’s “conservative” instincts only kick in when it benefits. He wants conservative judges, and he wants lower taxes, lower energy prices, etc. because he views these things as politically beneficial.
Trump is on record as saying as late as 2004 that the “Dems are better for the economy”.
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Conservatism is defined by and requires 100% loyalty to Trump.
– Cult Member
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Tina can try to “reinvent” Trump as a conservative.
Sorry, that dog won’t hunt.
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forgot, look at the number of regulations the “conservative” bush added.
lol
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A real “conservative”
May 2017: Trump told Malcolm Turnbull, the Australian prime minister, that “you have better health care than we do.” (Australia has a single-payer system.)
January 2017: “We’re going to have insurance for everybody,”
September 2015: “Everybody’s got to be covered … I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not.”
2000: “I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health … We must take care of our own. We must have universal healthcare.”
Pelley: Universal health care.
Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of no
Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Trump: —the government’s gonna pay for it.
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”He is not and has never been a conservative.”
You keep railing about Trump not being a conservative. However, how he portrays himself is having conservative policies but an agenda ruled by “common sense.” In fact he often says his party is “the party of common sense,” which strays from the ideology often seen in either of the mainstream political parties.
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bush also gave us: spying on citizens and tarp.
but he is conservative.
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GWB was a conservative Republican his whole life.
He governed Texas for 2 terms and the US for 2 terms as a conservative.
Trump has been a “conservative” for what, 5 minutes of his political life?
Tina wants to steal Tgca’s clown crown.
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Tarp, amnesty, Souter 2,0, Obama, a bad recesssion, and stupid wars (iraq).
but he is conservative.
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You keep railing about Trump not being a conservative.”
It’s a fact and you have admitted as much.
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Expansion of gubment, including the dept of no education, which like the “energy dept” should be axed.
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In fact he often says his party is “the party of common sense,” which strays from the ideology often seen in either of the mainstream political parties.”
I see.
So you admit he “strays from conservatism”
This is true.
It is also true he was never a conservative to begin with.
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Mute 43 did not govern as a conservative while president.
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Souter 2,0, Obama, a bad recesssion, and stupid wars (iraq).
but he is conservative.”
LOL
Tina calls Trump’s appointments to the Court “liberals” and “bitches”, etc. but is whining about Souter.
And btw, you are really ignorant to boot, Souter was appointed by GHWB, not GWB.
Oh, and btw, contrary to Trump GHWB was an actual conservative too.
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Mute 43 did not govern as a conservative while president.”
Zzzz…..
He certainly did.
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Sen. @JDVance just wrecked Kamala Harris for her failure as Border Czar after NBC tried running cover for her
NBC: “She was put in charge of the root causes of migration.” JD: “Well, the root causes of migration…is that Kamala Harris refuses to do her job as Border Czar.”
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The problem is Tina thinks ‘conservatism” is isolationism and crony capitalism.
Conservatives believe in limited government, free trade, free markets, free enterprise, personal responsibility and an America that protects its interest no matter where it is.
Trump believes in NONE of that.
But I understand that Tina and Janzam, who don’t even know what conservatism is, think Trump is a conservative.
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Lol, “chrony capitalism,”.
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Limited government, Yeah bush is a conservative. Dept of education was his pet as was pimping illegals, and the stupid wad in Iraq, which we are paying for now since it is now a proxy of the mullahs.
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I think the war in Iraq was perfectly justified, the right thing to do, and Iraq AND the US AND the entire world are much better off for it.
Next issue?
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My wife and I are attending a Ukrainian festival. Good music and food.
Tina and Jan hardest hit.
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Tina is right, as usual, that Trump’s actionable policies were far more “conservative” than Bush. His regulation ratio was something like deleting 12 regulations for every new one enacted. He took more deliberate action on rectifying the VA’s quality of care; made the US more energy independent; selected jurists who removed Roe vs Wade; created the “right to try act” giving people the latitude to individuate their own health choices; incentivized manufacturing here as well as more small business creation; initiated the removal of CRT from the military and school curriculum (Biden then reinstated it): addressed illegal crossings at the border etc. etc….far more conservative achievements than any Bush presidency did.
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A Michigan poll sponsored by American Greatness has Harris leading 48-46, and 46-45-5 (taken Aug. 20-22, before RFK Jr. dropped out). This is an interesting nugget from the summary:
“24% of Michigan voters say they are still deciding, and by an 8% margin, they say that their neighbors are voting for Trump over Harris, 44-36%.”
I take this to mean a lot of votes are still up for grabs and that, as we saw consistently in 2016 and 2020, Trump’s support is likely understated.
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Iraq’s strong rule kept Iran at bay, limiting its spread of terrorism. That’s why retroactively many analysts think we should NOT have gotten involved with that war. Initially, with Intel saying Saddam had WMDs, going in and taking him out seemed like a good idea. After the fact, though, with the Intel discredited, little was accomplished except to heighten ME instability. I think the same will be said, retroactively, about how we squelched early peace agreements between Putin and Zelensky, sending Boris Johnson and John Kerry over to sideline peace, getting the US into open, destructive warfare by proxy.
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That’s a lot of undecided. With her terrible speech and poor convention, looks like a tiny bounce. Halted with Fridays news.
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The Rinos love open borders, amnesty, endless wars (Iraq), and regulations. They are just as bad as drats, if not worse.
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Iraq was a huge blunder now it’s just a proxy for Iran and the mullahs.
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An argument can be made that mute 43 was even worse than jimmy carter
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Zzzzzzzz
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An argument can be made that mute 43 was even worse than jimmy carter”
An imbecilic moron could make that argument, yes.
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Tina is right, as usual, that Trump’s actionable policies were far more “conservative” than Bush.”
LOL
Janzam and Tina, who agree Putin is only second to God, but a close second, agree that Trump, an opportunist without a conservative bone in his body, is a conservative.
What a surprise.
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about how we squelched early peace agreements between Putin and Zelensky,”
LOL
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with Intel saying Saddam had WMDs, going in and taking him out seemed like a good idea.”
It WAS a good idea.
Next issue?
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Trump falls into a lot of traps, but he dodged this one…
“During presidential campaigns, candidates are typically briefed by the nation’s security agencies on critical matters they could face if they win the election. However, this week former President Donald Trump announced that he would refuse to take part in these standard intelligence briefings for candidates.
And the reason is actually quite genius. He explained his decision by expressing concern that Democrats would leak classified information and then attempt to accuse him of being the source of the leaks.
In other words, Trump knew a trap was being set for him.
“I don’t want them, because, number one, I know what’s happening. It’s very easy to see what’s happening,” he told the Daily Mail. “We have an incompetent leader, and we have two incompetent leaders. We have a Marxist that’s going to try and be president, and this country is not ready for a Marxist or a communist president, and that’s what she is. She destroyed San Francisco, she destroyed California, and this country is not ready for it.”
Trump continued, “So, I don’t want the briefings because as soon as I get one, they’ll accuse me of leaking it. The best way to handle that is to avoid the briefing altogether. They come in, give you a briefing, and then two days later, they leak it and blame you.”
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“The only way to solve that problem is not to take the briefing,” he added.”
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Anyone who had any experience with Iraq before we went in knew it was the correct thing to do. It was the execution and lack of plan for after the fall that was the mistake. Rumsfeld held strong to this idea of a “light” army (which was a HUGE pain in the ass if you were serving, and in application in the field) which left us fully unprepared for what came after Sadaam fell.
Anyone who thinks there were no WMD there is uninformed and an idiot. Anyone who thinks Sadaam wasn’t unhinged and would have used what he possessed without warning is uninformed and an idiot.
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We enjoyed the Ukrainian festival. We like to go to ethnic festivals where Americans celebrate their heritage – Greek, Italian, Polish and Irish are most common here. Not sure if there are any for the French but they probably wouldn’t let any outsiders in.
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https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1827350856921960692?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1827350856921960692%7Ctwgr%5Ebf48029056f469acb51360c3870023a32e826da0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com%2Fblog%2F2024%2F08%2F25%2Faugust-25th-2024-presidential-politics-resistance-day-1315%2F
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By 2011 or before, Trump had already burned all his bridges to the Democratic party with his birther nonsense.
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https://wltreport.com/2024/08/25/powerful-alliance-rfk-jr-other-prominent-democrats-actively/?utm_source=PTN&utm_medium=mixed&utm_campaign=PTN
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Birtherism, stupid as it is, was not created by Trump. It started way back in 2004, and it gained steam after Mark Penn suggested that HRC should campaign on Obama being born way out in Hawaiian and having an Indonesian stepfather, as though that would somehow paint him as foreign and un-American. She herself didn’t use that language, to her credit, but that’s where it came out of.
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GF – GFY. Everybody knows that Obama was not born in Hawaii. He was chosen before birth to become President so the Hawaiian officials created a fake birth certificate. They then printed thousands of newspapers in Hawaii with his birth announcement knowing that decades latter (after the internet was invented by Al Gore) that Obama would have a cover story.
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Trump stupidly believed it about Obama because he was a supporter of Hillary at that time. Never forget that Trump said Hillary would be a great President.
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Hillary is innocent. She was not the original birther.
-free passer
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Don’t forget her Thighness picture of the obumbler as a kid.
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What picture was that. Honest question.
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I was glued to every moment of the 2008 DEM primary. I don’t remember a single birther references during the primary.
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GF – Congratulations.
You have now joined Tina’s Free Passer Club. Of course, Tina gives free passes to Putin for his war crimes and Trump for really literally being a RINO.
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This picture was pushed by the her Thighness camp.
https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna23337141
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Top 3 worst presidents last 40 years,
demented,
Mute 43
Jimmah Carter
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40+ years.
lbj
obumbler
Would round up the last 2 (of my worst 5j
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Zzzzzzzzz. Tina knows that Biden, Obama, Clinton, and Carter all sucked but Gateway Pundit told her to hate GWB. Of course, like Wes, she probably voted for GWB twice before hating him.
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Obvioulsy, I said his picture as a kid and tha was wrong. Well that was 2 years before he ran. He aged tremendously in office and aged even more since. In the article, he faults her Thighness, who was the original birther.
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zzzz, is my list. And ou know it’s true.
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Why the hate for GWB. I admit he didn’t stand up to the Dems, he let them push him around adn talk all sorts of crap about him, but he was infinitely better than Obama, Biden, Carter, etc
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https://x.com/tylerbowyer/status/1827201286862754279
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will someone please let me know what LBJ did that was good? In my view he was downright awful. I get it, the Civil Rights Act, but the war on poverty was just a poverty increasing policy…what else??
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worst economy since the Great Depression.
Iraq invasion.
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I don’t agree with toppling saddam, Yes a mad man, but an important buffer to the mullahs. Now, it’s just a proxy.
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Taiwan (referred to as Chinese Taipei) leads Florida in the Little League WS by 1-0 in the 5th.
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Souter 2.0
not killing the department of education.
Harriet Meyers and brownie.
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I wish LL would call it Taiwan and tell China to F off.
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economy under Bush was good for six of the eight years he was in office, and one of those bad ones was post 9/11. ’08 was because of the Dems demand that loans be given to anyone, no matter, no qualifying, creating the housing bubble.
We disagree on Iraq wholeheartedly
Meyers was a disaster. dont know who Brownie is, or Souter 2.0
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Roberts = Souter 2.0. Even worse since dummmy made his chief Justice.
brownie = Mike brown hurricane katrina
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Mike Lee
@BasedMikeLee
Chuck Schumer removed the mask
Democrat victory in 2024 = no more filibuster
No more filibuster = permanently progressive federal government + indefinite rule by Democrats
You can’t put this genie back in the bottle
This is a point of no return
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I like the moderates on the Supreme Court.
-free passer
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Roberts is a conservative. He was wrong on Obamacare. Both can be true.
Of course, Tina doesn’t like Trump’s picks, either.
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I don’t like Beotchy, but I never did. I was for Lagoa. You were for Beotchy, who is basically pro gubment mandates
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Roberts has frustrated me at times, he often tries to appease liberals in order to appear centrist and fair, and was absolutely wrong on Obamacare, but hes 1000000XXXX better than anyone Gore or Kerry would have nominated.
Alito was a massive Homerun.
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Walz would call it Taiwan because he despises China unlike Trump.
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HE DESPISES the Chinese government. He likes the Chinese people.
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Dolts has traveled too much to China. He did not go there to vacation. We know he loves the Ccp.
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Tina: That’s why he’s been anti-Chinese government ever since the Tiananmen Square massacre.
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Yeah, a dead ender believes that. He praised the Ccp gubment. Nice try
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Tina: He doesn’t praise the government. He’s interested in China as a social studies teacher. He hates the government that cracked down on Tiananmen Square. You can go FUCK YOURSELF with your lies.
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What is a dead ender anyway?
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Zzzzzzz You would have turned on Lagoa, too. You hate everybody.
Barrett, Catholic mother of 7 (including adopted minority children) is a solid conservative. Tina hates her because she did not go to Gateway Pundit law school.
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And Kamala is pro-slavery since she might be a descendant of a slave owner. LOL.
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I know Doltz is a liar as is quemala
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Brown was Bush’s FEMA guy in charge of relief for the Louisiana flood. The phrase “Good job Brownie” is infamous after Brown botched up the relief plan.
While I don’t hate Bush, having voted for him twice, I think his Iraq policies were unduly influenced by the need to finish up his father’s early pull-out of Kuwait, and the threats against his dad’s life. In hindsight, I think we would have been served better by other means than war to engage in Iraq. This also holds true for Ukraine and our proxy war with Russia. Unfortunately Jason embellishes, much like Harris does, in mischaracterizing those of us who question the zeal for never ending wars that could have been resolved in a less destructive, costly way.
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The Republican attack on Tim Walz over Tiananmen Square is almost unbelievable
Ron Johnson accidentally demonstrates why Tim Walz would be well-suited for the vice presidency.
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she sure has a lot of kids. Good for her .
. I said she was a disaster and have been proven right.
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LOL: In an interview this week with Fox Business, Johnson warned that Walz is a “radical leftist” and made the case by pointing out what he called Walz’s “strange” relationship with China. “He got married on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square. He’s gone to China. He’s taught in China. He’s got deep connections to China,” Johnson said in the interview.
Because one gets married on the anniversary of Tiananmen Square to show your devotion to the CCP. LOL.
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https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/tim-walz-china-trip-tiananmen-ron-johnson-rcna167552
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stolen valor and let Minnesota burn are what I think of dolts.
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So, I’d really encourage TRUMP to go after Walz for his love of China. AND go after Harris for her slave owner ancestry. THOSE ARE WINNERS!!!! Go TRUMP. GO!!!
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Stolen valor has a new scandal. Forgot what entity is involved.
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Interesting article here.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/08/25/deeper-thoughts-on-rfk-jr-endorsement-of-president-donald-trump/
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Talking about JD Vance’s Stolen Valor? That’s the only one I’ve heard of.
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Branding 101
Shem Horne
@Shem_Infinite
Comrade Kamala is so good, the alliteration, the imagery, perfect nickname. So catchy. So accurate. That one is going to stick.
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Apologies for my Vance comment. I salute Vance’s service. Way more than most of us have done. and I salute Walz’ service. Also way more than most of us have done.
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Headed to extra innings in Williamsport, 1-1.
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Released.
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RFK Jr. “I’m gonna be campaigning actively. President Trump is going to make a series of announcements about other democrats who are joining his campaign.” “I wanna make America healthy again and so does President Trump.”
It appears a genuine coalition may be forming of disaffected Dems and the Trump campaign. It’s loosely being termed “The Unity Party,” because it seems to be unifying factions rather than dividing them against the far left Harris/Walz agenda.
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Define disaster. This should be good.
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I was with thousands of people today who would have ripped Jan for being clueless on Putin’s brutal murder of Ukrainians. Proud Ukrainians
as well as naturalized Americans.
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Headed to the 8th inning. Tied 1-1
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New thread at 7:00. This one is getting long.
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If US loses, blame third base coach. Held runner at third but throw in from outfield was bobbled.
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US wins 2-1 on a misplayed bunt.
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As usual, Bitter, my comments centered around the destruction of a country and how much it has cost us to fund their war – now upwards of $200 billion, by some people’s estimates, that could have been deservedly used in our own communities, and for our own national defense. There has also been brutality committed towards both Ukrainian and Russian soldiers and civilians. Does God separate out one from the other in calling out tragedy and death?
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Jan again lies. Not $1 spent on military aid to Ukraine would or could have been spent in the U.S. for reasons. First, Biden would not spend it here. Second, almost all of it is military aid.
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third, the money spent on that military hardware went to US manufacturers, who paid taxes on their earnings, and hired tens of thousands of workers, if not more, to manufacture the weapons.
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fourth, Ukraine didn’t start the war, Russia invaded it. It’s not a proxy war by any definition of the phrase. A proxy war involves operating full scale military operations in a third country against manpower from a fourth country.
This is hardly a proxy war when the US military might is not being used at all. Old weapons that are mostly surplus, and sitting in other countries already having been allocated to those countries, has been used.
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After the DNC, I do feel like Kamala is a comrade to all Americans.
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NT. I meant it.
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