According to Insider Advantage, in the first state poll taken entirely AFTER Trump was shot in PA on Saturday:
 | GEORGIA – Insider Advantage |
| Trump | 47 |
| Biden | 44 |
| In case of Demented Incumbent, break glass: | |
| Trump | 47 |
| Harris | 37 |
Trump Job Approval
| Pollsters wrong in 2024: | 42.0 / 55.1 | -13.0 |
| Pollsters right in 2024: | 46.2 / 51.0 | -4.8 |
 | GOP | DEM |
| Democrats +3 | 216 | 219 |
The Hedgehog Report - Phoenix Edition 
82 responses to “Failed assassination attempt makes no difference in Georgia polling”
New Jersey Senator Menendez convicted on 18 counts.
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segundo (in honor of menendez)
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This GA poll is sobering. Insider Advantage is a decent pollster. To have a major party candidate shot on Saturday, and then 800 likely voters polled Monday and today, and the shot candidate does not get any sort of bump compared to other GA polls shows just how polarized this nation really is. Maybe most on the left are like Vic’s mom who was angry the kid didn’t have better aim.
2024 is not 1981
Trump isn’t Reagan
Crooks isn’t Hinckley
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reposting, because I took a lot of time to write this….
Cash Cow just handed me one page of the DNC party platform that he somehow got ahold of in his mysterious cow ways. The Dems intent to roll out at their Dem convention and these words will be uttered by Joe Biden in his acceptance speech:
We do not know what were the top 4 items in the platform and speech but we do have these….
“#5. Free bread on Monday
#6. Free Circuses on Wednesday
#7. Free weed at all the legal weed stores across the country on Friday. This is so more Americans can enjoy the weekend and forget about their real troubles like inflation, gas prices, turmoil, illegal aliens, etc. that they are facing due to greedy Republican capitalists.
#8. Capping all rent at 5% of family incomes so they have more money to pay for luxuries like food, gasoline, clothes, etc.
#9. forbidding the use of the term ‘man hole covers’ and instead requiring that 1/3 of these covers be referred to as ‘male hole cover’, 1/3 referred to as ‘women hole covers’, and 1/3 being referred to as ‘LBGTQ hole cover’s and that these last group all be painted in bright rainbow colors.
#10. end the Trump tax cuts for all Americans and but get more tax revenue by putting a 100% tax on all billionaires
#11. By executive order, start a program to provide monthly government checks for one-eyed, one-legged, bisexual, left-handed, American Indians and other indigenous populations who have suffered horribly due to systemic racism.
#12. they say that drought and global warming is caused by nature and God, so we are going to start heavily taxing churches and seizing their assets so the government can pay for the needs of all the destitute illegal aliens who, because of global man-made warming, have been forced to buy expensive plane tickets and cell phones to come from Africa, China, Middle East, etc. to get to Mexico so they can cross into the U.S. and take selfies and live here in the U.S.”
#13. not just a law to protect a woman’s right to have an abortion, but a law to REQUIRE all women (and men who identify as women) to have an abortion sometime in their life.
#14. outlaw all fossil fuels by 2026 thereby ending the global warming crisis
#15. reparations checks for all African Americans (or people who identify as African Americans) who are registered Democrats and consistently vote that way
#16. cancelling all credit card debt for everyone who makes has less than $60,000 annual income
(do not have the other numbered items. This was all that was on this one page of the 17-page speech).
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REMEMBER! VOTE FOR ME, JOE BIDEN, BECAUSE I AM NOT DONALD TRUMP!”
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Bitterlaw
July 16, 2024 at 1:14 pm
New Jersey Senator Menendez convicted on 18 counts.”
Cash Cow said the defense was a lot of Bull Sheot.
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”J.D. Vance is a brilliant man, make no mistake, but more than that, he knows who he is, and what America is. He is bold and different, not an echo of dull Republican Party regulars. J.D. is a true believer—and he is a fighter. Donald Trump rose off his symbolic deathbed on Saturday, stood tall, blood streaming down his face, and pumped his fist in the air, urging his followers to “Fight! Fight! Fight!”—and now he has chosen a wingman who can brawl with the best of them.
Above it all, J.D. Vance, who would be the first Millennial vice president, represents the future of American conservatism. By naming J.D. Vance as his running mate, Donald Trump has given the American Right a dynamic future—one that is more in tune with the plain people than with Republican Party patricians.”
https://europeanconservative.com/articles/commentary/aint-that-america/
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GA is ideal as to ballot access. The Constitution Party candidate did not make it, but everyone else did. Trump/Vance is the only slot for Republicans and conservatives. There are plenty of options for every kook and misfit:
Biden (D)
Stein (G)
Oliver (L)
Kennedy (I)
West (I)
Cruz (Communist)
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Conservatism is now defined by isolationism? Got it.
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We must wait to see how the poles lol after the selection of Vance. Biden is surging,
-Free passer
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Nobody at HHR has said Biden is surging. But Tina knows that.
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The pony tail brigade are no longer serving as secret service. agents for trump. That was a sheot show
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That is good news DW.
I would like to offer up something, and its very interesting. HHR has been around, in one form or another, for more than 20 years. (THANK YOU BITTER FOR SAVING IT!!!!! and DW for your posting). Despite its now, unfortunately, reduced following, it truly reflects in a microcosm, the current state of the Republican Party.
With just a shade under 30 “members” we run the full gamut of the Republican spectrum. From traditionalist Republicans like JeffP (and please, if I don’t mention where you fit on the spectrum, do not get upset), to Northeast Rockefeller Republicans like Mitt Romney, to traditional but pragmatic Reagan Conservatives like Bitter, DW, Phil, JeffG, Marv and Walt (who invented conservatism when he painted some founding principles on a cave wall), to Conservatives who are are a hybrid of traditional conservatism with more Trump policy tendencies (MG, Chicon, NYC Mike) to Tina (who I think is more traditional Republican than she portends to be but enjoys pissing off some) to the Janz who are Populists/Trumpers rather than Conservatives. (AGAIN, IF I MISSED YOU, ITS BECAUSE YOU FALL ON THE SPECTRUM SOMEHWERE AND ITS NOT A SLIGHT).
Each of these factions is fighting for supremacy over the party…but notice something…its a much bigger tent than the Democrats have.
I don’t know where we go from here. I do think in time, very sadly, we will end up with a third party (calling themselves centrists, though centrists are never really centrists, they are those who don’t want to stir the pot and have no true moral conviction…and tend to acquiesce to the left, who sream and cry the most). A third party will mean we will be much like Europe, led by those who win with 30% of the vote, then force their policies on the rest of the country.
Each in the Republican party believes their form of conservatism (though the Trump wing can not be called conservative, they are truly populists) that theirs is the best form. The question is, when all of us here are gone, and the next generation takes charge, what will it look like. Populism doesn’t ever last…its called populism for a reason because its fleeting and changes on the public whim. Traditional Reagan Conservatism? Pragmatic Conservatism?
It is an interesting question I pose to you all.
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I think dementeds interview with Lester hosted was a disaster
He was vile, confused, and disgusting.
He can dance around what he said about trump, but he is idiotic.
Demented called the head of the secret service a “him.”
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I consider myself a Reagan Republican.
Not sure what a pragmatic conservative is or how different from a Reagan Conservative.
Interesting post you put up there VictorC.
Good points made.
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I am with Walt. Reagan Republican. I believe in Reagan’s 11th commandment, and I believe in a fairly big tent, because not all states are the same.
Populism happens when the large number of normally disinterested but eligible voters suddenly gets involved for a cycle or two, and then they fade back into the shadows and become uninvolved, allowing others to think for them and make decisions for them.
If every voting American took the job seriously of caring for their own country, then there would be no ‘populism’ as such, just an ongoing battle for the direction of the country.
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Walt and DW, I believe that Reagan Conservatism is pragmatic conservatism. Maybe I should have done the categories as: Traditionalist conservative and Reagan Conservatism (which I labelled pragmatic…big tent)
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fixed it. Thank God I can edit now 😉
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DW,
you could also add another category of Republicans, “the whack-a-doodles.”
“Wack a doodles” are the “purists” who:
–wish to purge all non Whackadoodles from the party and relentlessly call them RINOs because their view on subject or issue 1,2, or 3 is not quite like the Whackadoodles
And they see all the issues as “Black or White” (not as in race–but as in ALL GOOD, or ALL BAD). Abortion being a good example. No abortion. Anywhere. Anytime. Any place. and……NO EXCEPTIONS for rape, incest, life of the mother, fetus in the womb is dead, no to allowing any abortion prior to any fetus gestation period, etc. The W-A-Ds do not comprehend the complexity of issues and to them it is real clear and not complex at all.
–are driven to be almost cult like (Bitter term) toward their 100% support of a particular person like Trump, whether that person adheres to the R philosophy or not, or even deviates from it. It is ok for “Their Guy” to deviate.
–favor populism and appealing to emotion rather than intellect
–Whack-Doodles would rather send a message than win, do not believe in compromising one tittle, prefer no loaf or even a slice of bread because they want the whole loaf or nothing (and often end up with sending messages and getting nothing but Democrats elected.)
WE HAVE MORE AND MORE OF THESE WHACK-A-DOODLES RUNNING FOR AND GETTING ELECTED TO POSITIONS IN WV
WV “real Republicans” have proposed getting rid of WV State Income Tax entirely and replacing it by reinstituting the sales tax on food and raising the state sales tax (20% of which is paid for by NON-WV residents like tourists and those who travel into WV) for a NET TAX REDUCTION to everyone, but the Whack-a-Doodles vehemently oppose and torpedo that idea.
WHY? “Because that would mean we would have to vote for a ta increase, and I will never vote for a tax increase.”
Dumb as a box of rocks.
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Vic – Respectfully, GFY. Other than living in the Northeast, how do rate me as a Rockefeller Republican. If I was not already a Catholic, I would change my religion to Reaganite. 20 years of posts confirm my status as a Reagan conservative.
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Bitter – fair enough!!! I stand corrected and appreciate the GFY. Coming from a founding a-hole I take that as a medal to be proudly displayed on my left chest 😉
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There is a group of Republicans who we labeled “Go Along To Get Along” Republicans who would never stand up against Dems and Dem goofy proposals or ideas so they could ingratiate themselves to the Ds in power and hope the Dems throw some crumbs their way.
The Go Along To Get Along do not really hold firm to political ideology.
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Please note the edited post above 🙂
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The Go Along Get Alongs are the Mitt Romney’s of the Party, the TRUE Rockefeller Republicans.
To wit, I have changed the definitions above. Thank you edit function
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I believe the current “populist” chapter of the conservative movement – yes, it is conservatively anchored in the constitution – is driven by passion to actively alter the progressive path we have been on since Obama’s claim to “Transform America” under his presidency. My husband often explains how difficult it is, and how long it takes, to turn a Naval carrier around from one direction to another. It’s a “shoulder to the wheel” action, and that’s what the new populist movement is doing, with lots of fight and passion, to turn the US around from where Biden is rapidly taking us. I personally don’t know how long this populist-based movement will last. But, respectfully to what many of you predict, I think it will depend on how successful the next 4 years are under hopefully a Trump/Vance 2024 win. If by 2028 there has been a popular reversal of circumstances here in the US, Vance will most probably be the nominee advancing these policies for a new generation of voters for another 8 years, as long term strategic planning has been intricately woven into a movement having long term permanent goals.
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I am actually not a Republican. More free passes to Biden.
-Free passer
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The Secret service has just indicated that no agent was on the roof due to the roof having a slight slope.
We are phuqed because the pony tail brigade could not climb a roof
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2024 GE: Reuters/Ipsos
🟥 Trump: 43% [+3]
🟦 Biden: 41% [+1]
[+/- change vs July 1-2] 17 (2.8/3.0) | 992 RV | July 15-16
So perhaps they picked up a slight increase in Trump support due to shooting.
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You can print it and put it on your refrigerator. Just take it down when your sons are with you.
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Trump holding his first rally with Vance this Saturday in Grand Rapids, MI.
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Bitter. Print what?
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Now the secret service is claiming that trumps security on Saturday was enhanced due to an Iranian threat.
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Another example about the Whack-a-Doodles being dogmatic purists relates to gun control.
They say NO to ANY attempt to keep guns out of the hands of goofballs. “NOPE. Constitution 2nd Amendment…government shall make no law to infringe….” and they would say that “even the shooter Crooks should have had every right to possess the gun he had, etc.”
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I am definitely more of a Reagan conservative.
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I and other Reagan Republicans believe NOT ONLY Reagan’s 11th commandment, but also in patriotism (and instilling it and even teaching it), love of country (despite its flaws), belief in strong family, personal responsibility, traditional values including faith-based actions, strong defense, spend tax dollars to prevent problems rather than spend 10 times as much money to FIX the problem afterward you let happen because you failed to address the problem in the first place. And limited government (power is finite and either you let the government have more and more of it, or you let the people keep those powers). Lower taxes (and less intrusive govt.) which can be achieved if you stop putting the cart before the horse.
We should not have generations of families who are on welfare and 100% reliant on govt. and instead need to (temporarily) do what is necessary to help empower them and help lift these people us to be able to stand on their own two feet instead of relying on the government largess to take care of them and to be productive and contributing members of society who can work to achieve the American dream. Government should be spending resources to fix the causes of the problems rather than spending far more to throw money at the results of the problems. Wrongheaded to boost government and govt. power by hiring quotas, DEI, condone and embrace transgenderism and asking people what sex they identify as, and let boys in girls bathrooms and sports, special laws to protect special groups, etc. Enforce laws that are on the books to protect people and people’s property. No look the other way and don’t arrest and prosecute and provide consequences to bad actors because they are this or that. We must be a nation that believes in Rule of Law.
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And we certainly do not need (and need to undue) the wrongheaded “fundamental transformation of America” pushed by Obama and his crowd.
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Suspect wielding knives shot dead ‘in the back’ by cops near RNC: sources, witnesses
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Published July 16, 2024
Updated July 16, 2024, 4:38 p.m. ET
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It was an incoherent homeless man.
There goes the homeless vote…
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Speaking of transforming America…this is what we are getting from Pres. Obama’s 8 years in office and nearly 4 years of Biden.
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“A man claiming to be the victim’s brother told The Post that the unidentified man was homeless — there is a large “tent city” in the area.
Another homeless man claiming to be the victim’s best friend identified the dead man as “Sam,” but was known by others in the encampment as “Jehovah,” referring to a voice Sam heard in his head.
Sam had a crazy look in his eye before he approached police Tuesday, his friend, Edward Watkins, told The Post.
It was known in the community that Sam “wanted to die,” Watkins said, adding that the pair did crack cocaine together.”
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I guess the snipers roof was less of a slope than the roof used by the shooter. This just stinks,
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/07/16/it-gets-worse-three-security-detail-snipers-were-inside-building-used-by-trump-shooter-secret-service-director-says-roof-was-too-slopey-for-sniper-safety/#more-262296
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Walt. If there was a love 1000x button I’d click on it. You’re so spot on. Could not have said it better.
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“Ingrid Andress says she was ‘drunk’ during national anthem performance, will check into rehab
ANIKA REED, USA TODAY
July 16, 2024 at 1:50 PM”
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“spend tax dollars to prevent problems rather than spend 10 times as much money to FIX the problem afterward “
Poorly worded.
Should have said rather than spend 10 times as much money to ADDRESS THE BAD RESULTS OF THE CONSEQUENCES of what happened because you focus on spending money on the results rather than on prevention.
This is true in both domestic issues and in foreign affairs.
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The dei head, the supervisor, and the pony tail brigade should be axed
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Too much to keep up with…finally getting around to pointing out that the final VCU poll of VA in 2020 was Trump 39 / Biden 51
So VCU isn’t a GOP cheerleader by any stretch. Their poll showing Trump +3 is serious.
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The GFY from me.
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Your orthodoxy will dictate your orthopraxy. Reagan underwood this and would compromise as needed without ceding core conservative principles. He was the most effective President in my lifetime.
When campaigning DeSantis called the populist GOP politicos listless vessels because they determined their course of action based on the whims of Trump. That is what is happening now on steroids.
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Agreed. 2028 is going to be interesting as RDS will be the torchbearer for Conservatives, especially Reagan Conservatives, while Vance will toe the populist/quasi Paul line.
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https://thefederalist.com/2024/07/16/bidens-team-deliberately-kneecapped-trumps-security-to-allow-an-assassination-attempt/
”They called him Hitler. They said he was an existential threat. They said he would destroy democracy. They said he was the most dangerous person on Earth. Then they denied him security. They kept the rooftop open. They watched the shooter and did nothing. They kept Trump on that stage. And they didn’t do a damn thing until after he had been shot in the head.
And we’re all supposed to believe it was just an innocent oopsie?”
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”…..while Vance will toe the populist/quasi Paul line.”
You’re already busy using the Paulist label before the convention is even over. No where has Rand/Ron Paul’s name been linked to Vance. Rand Paul is not even attending the RNC Convention, and yet here you go flinging around aspersions at a guy who hasn’t even been able to speak and publicly introduce himself. Yes, Vance is a conservative in the framework of a populist. But he will be a spokesman for Trump policies (not Paulist ones), which I believe Reagan would endorse if he could speak for himself, rather than be captured by others old, glossy memories of how they saw him.
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Reagan would never, and I mean NEVER, support Vance’s stance on national security. That is very Paulistic, not conservative.
Jan – He has a record. This is not casting aspersions, this is his position. It is not conservative, it isn’t Republican, it is populist.
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Rand Paul opposes military aid to Ukraine. Vance opposes military aid to Ukraine.
But Jan says there is no connection.
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Jan, you look myopically and are very one issue focused, making sure Zelinsky doesn’t get “money”. I disagree with Vance on his foreign policy assessments. They are rooted in the Paul movement, which then were adopted by the populists.
Unlike Legacy media, which is misrepresenting his positions on abortion (he actually says, “I’ve always believed in reasonable exceptions.” Later, he specified that he supported exceptions for rape, incest, and preserving a mother’s life”…which I think would align with many here. IVF, as well, they are misrepresenting.
Immigration – most here would agree with him. Taxation. Border Security…again, all fall in line with Vance.
Where I believe he veers from Conservatism into populism is his support for unions (which I believe disadvantage workers in the long run and are corrupt), tariffs, opposition to free trade, etc. All of which aligns with Trump, but not Conservatives.
Is that a better assessment, considering you believe “I haven’t given him a chance, or looked at his record?”
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Reagan would NEVER say like Vance…”I really don’t care what happens to Ukraine”. Which is ludicrous foreign policy.
Reagan would have given Ukraine weapons needed to protect themselves to deter war to begin with….which Trump FAILED to do BTW.
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The narrative is because Trump thought Ukraine was part of the Russia Hoax (which was false) and he had an axe to grind.
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Reagan would have invaded and occupied Libya and Reagan did not pull troops out of Beirut.
-Free Passer
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There are no conspiracies with the assassination attempt by the soy boy. There is a lot of incompetence and I don’t trust the Fib to investigate anything as it won’t know the difference between its arse and it’s elbow.
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DeSantis and Reynolds are noticeably missing so far from the GOP convention.
I don’t blame them. Trump is politicking against their 6 week abortion laws.
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I also fault the local Pa police. Incompetence. How does soy boy walk with a gun and rifle unnoticed or un detected?
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Tina. I can tell you for a fact troops were on aircraft, loaded and ready to deploy into Libya. But his airstrike did what it was intended to do, so troops stood down.
Anyone who claims different was absolutely not involved, and not in the know.
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I stand Corrected DeSantis is speaking tonight.
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” From there, investigators believed he carried his newly purchased ladder to a building located roughly 130 yards from the former president’s podium.”
Gun, ammo, and Home Depot ladder , walks at least a mile, and nobody stops,him?
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more “must fundamentally transform…
“Biden set to announce support for major Supreme Court changes (msn.com)”
“Biden set to announce support for major Supreme Court changes”
“President Biden is finalizing plans to endorse major changes to the Supreme Court in the coming weeks, including proposals for legislation to establish term limits for the justices and an enforceable ethics code, according to two people briefed on the plans.
He is also weighing whether to call for a constitutional amendment to eliminate broad immunity for presidents and other constitutional officeholders, the people said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss private deliberations.”
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He did not occupy Libya. He struck it because of interests. He also pulled out of Beirut.
He sent troops into Grenada as it was our sphere and impacted us because of threats to Americans.
He is not a goober graham type or an idiot like most Rs .
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There is peace through strength. Trump was successful with this approach, as was Reagan.
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This is just getting worse by the day.
VIA CBS – There were three snipers stationed inside the building the shooter used during Saturday’s shooting of former President Donald Trump, a local law enforcement officer with direct knowledge of the incident tells CBS News.
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Have the dei head, supervisor, and the pony tail brigrade been fired yet?
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“Gun, ammo, and Home Depot ladder , walks at least a mile, and nobody stops,him?”
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Maybe he was wearing a camouflage outfit, so people did not see him. ?
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Tina – He did not occupy Libya. I don’t know where anyone on here advocated for occupying a country. He did 100% have troops loaded on aircraft with live ammunition ready to deploy and the engines on and ready for takeoff.
Reagan and Trump had different approaches to foreign policy. I believe in practical terms Trump and populists have a different approach to foreign policy. I believe the Abraham Accords were an outstanding foreign policy accomplishment he neither gets enough credit for, nor does he promote enough.
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The DEI squad is going nowhere until Trump fires here on January 21st.
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Reagan did not have any endless or proxy wars … a few military operations but that was it. He broke the USSR and the Eastern block.
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Which makes me think about going back to Prague, Krakow and Budapest again.
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Victrc sarcasm. It is evident that some here are portraying Reagan as another goober. Pretty evident that some here don’t know Reagan well.
Jeffp is 100% correct.
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If it were up to goober and the country club Rinos that love endless wars, Reagan would have occupied Libya and remained in Beirut.
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Comparing Trump to Reagan is absurd. Reagan was a Top 5 President. Trump was a good President (so far) but not in the same class.
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He saw no benefit from being in Beirut (police force) or occupying Libya.
successful president, unlike Mute 43.
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we can only compare Biden to Reagan. Isn’t Biden a nice grandpa?
-free passer
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it took one day for both demented and Hamill to try to tone it down. (See the disastrous nbc interview with demented and Lester.
Actor Mark Hamill Mocks Trump’s ‘Ludicrously Oversized’ Ear Bandage, Suggests It Is All For Show.
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Interesting…Amber Rose has a 50% discount on her Only Fans account as she spoke at the GOP Convention in prime time baby. She’s a reformed conservative but what the heck. Makes sense! I’m the crazy one here for pointing it out I know. Totally awesome to have RNC speaker using their speeches as marketing tools for their porn business.
BL … did the town whore have her say at Independence Hall back in the day? I heard she will help Trump in Phlliy.
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Tina – got it!!! sorry about that
JeffP – you are correct. He broke their backs by building a fierce fighting machine who the world knew he wasn’t afraid to use (hence why I shared that troops were locked and loaded to go into Libya)
I believe that the populist crowd is not supportive of peace through strength because it means you have to be prepared to use it.
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N/T since 8:00.
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